tv Keiser Report RT November 7, 2013 3:29am-4:01am EST
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your party has a goal. for shoes that no one is asking with the guests that you deserve answers from it's all on politicking only on our t.v. . people that. we're cleaning up something that is quite simply a best. plus. the president did not keep his promise. two years later one ton of money is still operating. could shutting the door on that detention center really and the trauma
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of one timeout. and can the closing of a prison really liberate those that once held captive. it's not that i feel lonely if i am lonely for him and who could possibly understand what i have experienced in guantanamo when i talk about it even screws most. no one is able to imagine it. and the flag flew over camp delta and guantanamo bay cuba where you know the
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detainees are housed. to honor all those service members and civilian who have lost their lives during the war on terrorism and those who continue to fan the ideals of freedom and democracy throughout the world so i really appreciate that because i very much enjoyed serving my country. it's painful and it makes me sad that there are those who think my service is not honorable. if anyone googles my name torture will come out because my name was put in books of all types which of course have in its title torture that the torture teen the road torture the trail. george wright and all these kinds of things people think i must be the torture lady.
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i mean nine eleven a lot of people were killed that day and i want to make sure somebody was held accountable. how dare anyone on this planet. do that. within our borders carry out a state prosecutor points an accusatory finger at your chest and cause you a criminal and tells you that you have betrayed your oath and you have betrayed your country that your d.s. disclose a list of names if i want i know better. and he's paid a terrible price. there's a lot of reasons for you but. there is no easy answer. downtown which has caused a lot of arctic for a lot of the. world
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war when a plane strikes the pentagon it tries to kill people in the pentagon. it's very personal. it sounds corny to say it was my duty but i felt like i couldn't retire without at least offering to deploy. and i volunteered to go anywhere. it's very scary that there is these people out here that just want to destroy our
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way of life our culture our values then and now i understand why i mean how do you when hearts and minds how do you stop this if you don't understand your enemy. in autumn two thousand. and one turkish boy who grew up in germany decided to travel to pakistan to explore his muslim roots. the year two thousand and one changed my life. and i traveled to pakistan because i wanted to learn a lot about islam in a short time. like some pakistan had always interested me. i was so also curious to see another country.
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and i realized the war had broken out in afghanistan. coming rates continue to read the taliban trenches north of the pakistani government i didn't really think much of it myself but i was just nineteen back then. and didn't know much about the worlds. well i wasn't particularly interested in politics either. it was just before my return trip to germany i had bought a lot of presents to take home. it was just before christmas. police stopped the bus came up to me and asked questions and. i presented my passport and they told me to get off the bus. and that someone that was my last time as a free man pakistani police hand over the americans taken to kandahar air base for
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interrogation. and they wanted to turn me into a terrorist they wanted me to admit that i was a member of al qaeda and the taliban and that i fought with them who at that time i didn't even know what al qaeda is i said i'm not a terrorist and that is why i will not sign that and then they hung me from the ceiling by my handcuffs. they put a chain around them and pulled me up so that i was completely. composed of who i was hanging with my full body weight off the ground into a new month another man was hanging their skin all over his body had turned blow but. he was dead and they left him hanging there. the interrogator asked me again to sign. when i said no
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he just gave a hand signal. and they pulled me up again. i hung like there for five days. almost every day and night i felt how he was being treated on that first is how i always immediately knew if he was being punished you know when he was doing fine soft even good to eat these are the intuitions of a moderate economy and he says you know. that i thought i cried for three days. i said i can go on like this but here's the point you may need. communism not getting me anywhere i have to do something. so
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i went to the police. his mother told us that when i read her not us had turned towards old radical islam this creates an expire first of all under four hundred to determine whether murat kurnaz actually intended to fight the american answer. there was a great commotion within all the security agencies tomorrow it's become sort of especially after we learned that a group of suicide bombers in hamburg the hamburg cell had masterminded the nine eleven attacks a total. harm done so we put out all our feelers. we got the intelligence that were to occur not us always wanted to fight crime and had bought a combat suit and army boots incriminating testimony that mainly came from his mother which. as he was said to have condoned the terrorist attacks on the
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in february two thousand and two diane beaver arise that guantanamo to work as a legal advisor to the camps commanders. very strange plainclothes the detainees would show up wherever they came from there maybe these people you know whether their bodyguards of osama bin ladin are whatever their role is maybe there are pieces of information there are going to make a difference. and i sat in on hundreds and who knows maybe a thousand interrogations i don't know i saw so many it's a mind game it's trying to elicit information. of variety of different ways and playing on a person's ego playing on a person's love of family love of country. not to me when i arrived there i had no idea why i was it was very hot.
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they finally uncovered my eyes. took me to a small cage. looking like a dog cage only smaller yvonne and there were no toilets nothing. you know the lights were on twenty four seven in the us and you know the pool in the generators roared so loudly. so this and i could never really sleep. it was more like fainting from exhaustion. almost on the. jury my first interrogation story asked me about muhammad atop. the state from dallas for guy who flew one of the planes into the towers. they said that's your friend from hamburg. you live close to hamburg.
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so you probably went to the same fitness center. and once worked with confused when they didn't like my answer so they put me into solitary confinement. are you willing to engage yourself in a debate when you would be pressing not only of war legalisation of cannabis in our land but they can pay me for their ballasts many of those punishments and say united arab emirates well look we've seen what their own situation here first and to is we've seen with the countries that easiest to solve well the countries that you mentioned there it's an even bigger problem and i would be opinion and of the opinion that it is actually union rice to consume what you want so long as it isn't
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handing order so this is actually a bigger issue and then cannabis is about the suffering that i have over my own body. sigrid laboratory to mccurry was able to build a new most sophisticated robot which on fortunately doesn't give a dollar amount anything turns mission to teach creation why it should care about humans and. this is why you should care only on the dog.
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interrogator and hopefully then it's some point the detainee will become so compliant the detainees will tell you the things that you're asking about and you'll get the intelligence information that you need. each other i'm going to spend an entire year on my own. when you're alone for so long that. you feel as though you realize how many things you could have done better in life. when you regret not having done them this month comes if you remember almost every person you treated badly. and every heart you broke with. as a child i wanted to be rich so i could drive fast cars. i
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enjoyed drinking a lot sometimes it made me violent and devoted. i also took drugs. that's how i once lived. in my search for answers i turned to the koran and decided to live a religious life as. i know at least one of his interrogations and i may have seen more he wasn't an innocent guy you know i'm sorry you know the cover story of i just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time but i'm really this religious guy just doesn't cut it. it was a very intense time many people felt certain there would be another attack against america and so that's always the intensity of trying to work as hard as you could
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to do your part to save american lives. a part of me wanted to participate in this war on terror contribute. and knew if i didn't volunteer for. it was a good chance that i could be sent to afghanistan and enough to go that. there was a better chance of me coming home alive from guantanamo to my family. and be a third reason would be it's a career enhancing it looks good for on the record that you participated in some way in this global war on terror and you got the medals to go with their ribbons to go with it and it helps you get promoted to the next pay grade and i felt i had a role to play and ensuring that. we complied with the rule of law the law of war. they asked me all the questions like if i had
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seen a summer bin ladden. and i told them of course i've seen them on t.v. like everyone else. that made them. we definitely have people who know things they aren't talking they're resisting every effort we've tried the normal methods so now we need something else. in afghanistan they were doing many more severe things handcuffing someone above their head for hours and hours. any time you restrained somebody for long periods of time particularly over their head your organs collapsed on each other and you eventually died because of that. and so the interrogators to get mo as well as myself first thinking oh my gosh. you know you can't you can't anyway it's a it's unprofessional to do something like that. washington demanded better results
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from military interrogations but interrogators that one time obey felt that they were given no proper guidelines as to what was permitted to achieve those results diane beaver was put in charge of drafting a memo on enhanced interrogation techniques. everyone understood the torture wasn't allowed and obvious forms of torture such as. cutting off a finger or electrocute any of those obvious things that you know you couldn't do death threats and things like that and so what was allowed. for example if someone said oh we have a pistol we know it's not loaded and we'll point it at somebody said no that would be illegal. what if we built a special chair. and put the detainees in your thinking special chair what does
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that mean. what about stress positions what about making them bend in an awkward position and they can't get up until. i see. so. there can be a gray area. when you're being asked for legal advice i did my best to look at the sources of the law that might apply. i certainly wasn't an expert. i had called around asking for help and no one would help me and so right away you don't have to be too clever to know no one wants to touch it. and. we've research it now we have to put pen to paper and so my legal staff and i were it was very little sleep over those four days but we started putting them out
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altogether and rewriting and looking at it and weigh the references and having alternately we're happy with what we came up with enough for two thousand to die and be very concludes in a classified memo that the proposed interrogation methods comply with u.s. and international law ten days later secretary of defense rumsfeld authorizes eighteen of the twenty two techniques including stress positions removal of clothing and the use of detainee phobias like fear of dogs. rumsfeld does not authorize some of the harshest methods that included death threats and waterboarding. ok well now we have the decisive piece of paper let's go we need to you know start up interrogations again now that we have guidance and policy guidance from the very top of the department of defense. as interrogations in guantanamo were said
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to be conducted according to government approved guidelines the situation in iraq deteriorated and in two thousand and four images of torture and abuse in abu ghraib leaked to the public. and believable what purpose did that serve it wasn't eliciting information. i mean you know this is sadistic in this is not the product of a professional anything the usually jovial jody rumsfeld was grim as he was sworn in and promptly took responsibility for what he called a catastrophe he was interrupted by hecklers calling for. this terrible to because the army is will and has been tarnished and will be tarnished for a very long time is difficult to recover from something like this. the political upheaval didn't affect the every day life. over the course of his five year in prison meant
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the means of eliciting information steadily increased in intensity. for them sometimes they interrogated me for more than twenty four hours. thirty. years there were. then the americans and asked me what i had done in germany. or something. and then quiet about phone numbers and other information the stuff that only people in germany could know about so i was convinced of the americans had been in touch with the german police who isn't.
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active. i knew it was time to get out because i. could and i wanted to have have a dog i wanted to. have my own how those kinds of things where i didn't have to worry about would i be deployed what do do i. in the summer of that same year matt diaz was deployed for a six month tour of duty in guantanamo. because of the embarrassment of abu ghraib there was more focus on going to animal as well. my mission while i was down there became to make sure that another abu ghraib didn't happen. my job was to star trek relegation of abuse going back to the beginning of the camp. no matter how they characterize the conflict. we're to treat detainees or those we detain. humane. what i observed
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that we were still not complying with the law of war. in the name diane beaver came up because she wrote the original memo to request these enhanced interrogation to each one of the interrogators was concerned about the techniques that were authorized and so to the extent to for reference. people that were there clearly were not the worst the worst and not everybody should have been there clearly they were just at the wrong place at the wrong time . and sold to the u.s. or turned over to the u.s. for about eight. or nine was one of them. you know my job is to a comport with a lot make sure my commanders much in a command complies with the law so on that professional level of course i got to care because that's my job but on a personal level i mean i'm
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a human being i don't i don't get joy out of seeing other human being suffer. the more i looked into it the more i realized that it doesn't matter what you advise your commanders. those concerns are going to leave the island is not going to go up the chain. so my role to advise commanders on the proper way forward is basically futile it's not going to get anywhere. that's was the moment that i decided ok that was something i had to do. there's just no way to be able to do it through proper channels was my thought process and to do it surreptitiously. they kept interrogating me like this for years and years so i told them i'm through with you if you want to hear it again just rewind the tapes you already have and listen to it again nothing's changed.
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with the hoop they punished me they barely fed me. they didn't give me water. they tried everything but i didn't say anything anymore. what's happened is law enforcement and the national security agency has gone behind our collective backs and tried to accomplish this using the courts in secret and that's truly what the issue is a broken whatever trust and violated whatever trust we may have had and that's the real issue and they're going to have to earn that back the hard way.
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the deepest lake in the world. usually then no more than fifteen thousand years old this one dates back twenty five. spirits and buddhist gone live you know. the clearwater in the lake is helping scientists unravel the mysteries of the universe. i tried to see by cow in its entirety. it's not that i have discovered something new here rather that i absorb everything but this place offers . the spirit of. exactly what happened i don't know. piers later is when i got arrested.
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for a crime i did not do. we have numerous cases where police officers lie about polygraph results. and people you can trust the police officers don't beat people anymore i mean it just doesn't happen really. in the course of interrogation why because there's been this is like men. no because the psychological techniques are more effective in obtaining confessions than physical abuse they were they could do what they wanted they can say what they wanted and there was no evidence of what they did or what they say.
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britain's turn to explain the country's intelligence chiefs faced public questioning on just how close they were to america's spy agency and its notorious intrusions worldwide. plus it's not only do you carry under scrutiny as three other join the spy team keeping tabs on all corners of the globe. we were pulled from guantanamo bay on how guards are kept compliant prisoner you saw a while the former detainee tells us of the torture so intricate it was practically custom and. the torch take selfies goes into albeit the heads of a unique space for.
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