the. coming up on r t in geneva negotiators discuss iran's nuclear program right as u.s. iranian relations seem to be warming but what does that israel have to say about all of this a look at the nuclear implications of these negotiations ahead and the wear a t. and t. customers a new report shows that the company is voluntarily ending over phone records to cia plus we'll take a closer look at how mainstream impression is becoming in the wake of in a say revelations that's all new in tonight's tech for four plus president mates cheating the system for millions of taxpayer dollars we'll tell you how unemployment money meant to help those in need is actually going to people who are locked up.

here thursday november seventh a pm in washington d.c. i'm not going lopez and you are watching r t well starting off this hour it's one small discussion for world leaders one huge leap forward when it comes to ending the nuclear standoff between iran and the u.s. p five plus one negotiators from the u.s. iran britain france germany russia and china that in geneva today for the first session of a two day meeting now the goal is to come up with framework to deal with the wrongs of nuclear program and limit the country's ability to create weapons this meeting is monumental in importance not only because of the nuclear implications but also because of the warming relations with between d.c. in tehran with the country's new leader hassan rouhani now just to underscore how important these talks really are u.s.

secretary of state john kerry is on his way to geneva in a last minute decision to join the. station and reach a deal i was joined earlier by brian becker national coordinator for the answer coalition i first asked him what he thinks will come from these negotiations well the united states has severe economic sanctions on iran iran's banking system is basically frozen out of the international economic situation it can't sell its oil and iranian assets are frozen all over the world the united states may want to have some progress with the talks but ultimately the united states isn't really worried about iran's nuclear weapons run doesn't possess nuclear weapons the u.s. doesn't say it does possess nuclear weapons iran is a member of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty unlike israel for instance which does not allow inspectors what the u.s. really wants is to overthrow the government in iran it's a long term proposition the sanctions are designed to destabilize iran and they

thinking the u.s. is thinking right now with the new elections that perhaps there's some vulnerability inside the iranian government that they can exploit i think that's the real strategy so one of the things that we have to address here as obviously the obama administration is opening itself up to these kinds of talks however is that what congress wants considering the fact that before president obama even discussed the idea of meeting with iranian officials congress had put on the table and other round of possible sanctions all right i mean the congress is devoted to analysts war not only in the middle east but all around the world i mean it's really dominated by the most hawkish figures the most militarized forces or pro militarist forces so now we have congress glibly trying to put new economic sanctions even harsher economic sanctions which have already caused a lot of economic suffering for the iranian people obama's got that right wing pressure on him but overall i would say that while there is a right wing pressure in congress obama and the right wing have as i said

a general strategic agreement that the real goal is not to stop a so-called nuclear weapons program in. run but they carry out ultimately the destabilization of iran and regime change now one of the really interesting kind of things of all of this is obviously the u.s. has very close ties with both saudi arabia and israel which both have a very vested interest and how this p five plus one negotiations go do we have any idea at this point how they're responding to these warming tensions well you can you can see in the in the orientation with the netanyahu government in israel for instance that they are totally opposed to any sort of peaceful outcome any sort of negotiated settlement why is that because israel really benefits from complete tension in the middle east it says that the united states here you have a reliable ally a partner really a proxy in the middle east in this troubled region where two thirds of the world's oil is and with constant tension and war israel proves to the united states why it should get four billion dollars every year in tax payers money so israel is opposed

to the negotiations the saudis have also an existential opposition to the iranian government because they know that what happened in iran in one nine hundred seventy nine when the people rose up in overthrew the king that could happen in saudi arabia too that's why the saudis are really afraid of iran because they know that there could be revolutions that spread throughout the entire region and the u.s. isn't only dealing with pressures from saudi arabia in israel from outside the country they're also dealing with these pressures from inside and the recent usa today article apec president michael cosign said apec continues to support congressional action to adopt legislation to further strengthen sanctions and there will absolutely be no pause delay or moratorium in our efforts so when you talk about the influence of a lobbying group like a pac on decisions that are made in these negotiations and in the future well i think apec is a strong lobby we know that but you know i think there are influences somewhat exaggerated you could see apec was demanding war against syria but once the

american people were engaged once the american people made it clear that there was across the board opposition to a new war against. syria the influence of a peg supposedly so grand actually started to be seen in its real perspective the united states government isn't taking its its cues in terms of strategy in the strategically resource rich part of the world from apec even though yes they do a lot of millions of dollars every year to congress ultimately the u.s. makes its decisions based on its geo strategic interests as an empire in the area of the world that has two thirds of the world's oil and how this all plays out in the future and how these tensions actually ease and relations really build between these two countries where on a new front we're going to see how it all happens with passanante out the day the rains really but what we do have is israel calling them a wolf in sheep's clothing brian becker national coordinator of the antelope coalition thank you so much. while american spy agencies have been in the spotlight over the past few months with the heads of the national security and national

intelligence agencies in the hot seat of multiple times over the past two months to publicly face up to allegations that they have been overreaching in their surveillance efforts while today began a new chapter in britain's investigation into how what their country's spy agencies are cooperating with foreign intelligence groups like the u.s. like the n.s.a. now in their first joint public hearing the hands of britain's three intelligence agencies were faced with questions from parliament artie's sara first picks up the story from there. well of course a certain coming as a sensitive time for the government and those intelligence agencies on the back of the edward snowden revelations now we saw these three spy chief being questioned over a broad range of issues but i'm going to take he if you like to the g.c. the t.c.h. key chiefs in love and he was asked why it was necessary for the majority to have

intelligence gathered in the attempts to catch the minority that are doing wrong and he answered that with an analogy of a haystack so trying to find a needle in a haystack essentially saying that they don't look at the innocent hey if you like is an analogy that he used a fair bit do you think we really saw the level of scrutiny that a lot of people will have been calling for indeed if you think at the beginning of the session we heard it said that witnesses are going to be asked to reveal any secret information so you're never really going to get any mind blowing revelations from those three spy chief but i do think people have been looking perhaps for the questioning to have gone a little bit further on some of those points and i think one of the most interesting bits in that question and answer session was when the d.c.t. boss said that much of their success lies in terrorists being unaware of what they do and he went on to say that as

a direct consequence of the snowden revelations their task has been made more difficult now let's take a listen to that. effect of the media coverage through media coverage will make the job that we have far far harder for years to come the leaks from snowden have been very damaging they've put out of permissions the risk is clear that our groceries are really believe a card is nothing you don't do. you have any. information you can share with those as to too hard evidence the jurors or potential jurors have been looking at these reports in this public forum and they get are not sure that people are going to be fully satisfied with the answer is that they received the main issue here i think is that a lot of the questions at a lot of the answers given from those spy cheese we're centrally asking the public

to take it on trust you know we're not sneakers that's not what we do we're protecting. in the in the country and i think the problem is in the wake of the edward snowden revelations of course a lot of that trust has been eroded and say that is where the difficulty is going to live is certainly there are some interesting bits of information in that that are going to be very closely scrutinized but i think certain you're going to see this debate continuing that was already correspondent sara forth in london. well it's thursdays on means it's time for our weekly tech report on deck this week cryptography goes mainstream it appears the cia is in bed with a t. and t. and it's back the undergrown a legal trade web site known as the silk road was put on a four week hiatus after the f.b.i. shut it down but to spawn to a law enforcement of best efforts to stop the illegal gun and drug trade site it's up and running again but we begin with

a twenty an article published today by the new york times reports that the cia is paying the telecommunications giant more than ten million dollars a year to assist with overseas counterterrorism investigations essentially a t. and t. was handing over a treasure troves of phone records to the cia on a voluntary basis nossa speed subpoenas no court orders your data up for sale now earlier i spoke with the founder of lava bit lavar levinson he closed his encrypted service down after the f.b.i. forced him to hand over the key which provides unabated access to all of his clients emails and information he says he isn't all that surprised that the cia and eighteen are in cahoots. no it doesn't surprise me at all. the f.b.i. makes it a point of recruiting commercial companies like lava bit like eighteen tea. into

a program that they're calling in for guard that allows commercial companies to collaborate with law enforcement on legitimate investigations the fact that some of these investigations have basically gone over the line doesn't surprise me in the least given my experience and one of the points that i found really very interesting about this case is that the cia is paying a ten million dollars a year is what we're hearing in some figures however they didn't only refuse to pay you they charged you they find you five thousand dollars a day so what's what do you think of that i think the the issue is pretty clear i was going to. had them pay me two thousand dollars to cover the cost of putting in the equipment and the development time to actually create the logic necessary to log out the information they wanted. well the fact that they turned me down to me was a pretty clear indication that what they really wanted was more than just the maid

information and if they accepted my solution they wouldn't get that what they really wanted were those s.s.l. keys because that gave them blanket access to the entire system and all of the information coming in and out of the network now the last time that i interviewed you you had said that you were in the process of trying to release that s.s.l. key and actually teaming up with others to kind of release it so that there can be other alive a bit like companies where you add that process right now well i'm not trying to release the s.s. ok but i am trying to release the source code that powered lava bit in the hopes that you know at least because love a bit has to remain shut down by the court case works its way through the system which could take a year maybe two i thought the next best thing to having a lot of a bit out there would be one hundred love a bit like services. so i've teamed up with a couple other people that are very influential in the email security field and the

idea we came up with is hey if you're going to release this code let's integrate support for a new protocol that makes security a priority so that we can fix this problem at its core and prevent something like this from happening again and our hope is to get that code out there in the spring so that other people can benefit from security and that is just one of the many projects that you are currently working on you're also working on as i understand it you've teamed up with silent circle to create a kickstarter with email encryption services known as dark mail something i have to ask you because the f.b.i. was able to get its hands on love a bit and forced you to give up that information what is the difference now between this dark mail and lava. it in terms of encryption. the idea behind dark mail is that will let me back up a little bit the goal of the love boat encryption system was to remove lava bit from the surveillance equation by not allowing us to get access to users'

information well we realized based on what happened that just because i don't have access doesn't mean the feds can't gain access so what we talked about doing a silent circle is coming up with a new protocol adapting some of the stuff they've developed for their other products and basically rolling it out globally so that everybody can get it and encryption that is a system where the only computer or device capable of decrypting an e-mail message is the user's computer itself so no matter what happens the service provider we can't give them any information or any. method of accessing that information and what we're trying to do is we're trying to push surveillance back down to the individual if you want to find out what somebody is saying you have to go ask them you can't recruit the service provider to spy secretly

on your behalf so transparency all the way down to the person so that they can know exactly what is happening with their very private information how do you defend yourself if you don't know what's going on what's going on that is a very good question now something that's really interesting in the wake of all these snowden revelations is the fact that in many ways the cryptography encryption service says it's become a bit mainstream do you feel that way i don't think encrypted is becoming mainstream but i think there's a greater realisation that it needs to become mainstream and going back to dark well that's our goal is to integrate encryption into the protocol so that anybody who. today we'll be able to use dark mail tomorrow and benefit from it security and i think what we're going to see is a new generation of products and protocols that take that same approach i think we spent the last thirty years trying to make things work on the internet and we're

probably going to be spending the next ten to twenty years moving from trying to make things work to try to make things secure and i'm sure you've gotten a lot of support for that have you know yeah thousands of backers i checked the spawning and we've already raised seventy thousand dollars wonderful well let's switch topics one more time meanwhile this underground internet site known as the silk road was discovered by the f.b.i. recently it was shut down for about four weeks but then a right is it shut down this message popped up and was sent out to everyone and what it says it was sent out by dread pirate roberts and what it says is we are proud to announce though that our new security measures include emergency strategies to ensure that in the event of silk roads demise once more no member will lose their queens we have learned hard lessons from the unfortunate events of recent weeks and the man hours that have gone into this new release are phenomenal so it is back up and running now interestingly the web site which is notorious for selling illegal goods like drugs and guns apparently also funds charities and this

very uplifting letter it says we have already committed a large percentage of revenues to good causes charities and organizations who support our cause or have similar interests so selling guns and drugs to support charities what do you think about the idea that the f.b.i. shut it down but it's kind of like that head that you cut one off and several others pop up can the f.b.i. and other organizations really stop innovation when it comes to the internet. it's more important innovation it goes back to the question of freedom and that's the idea behind silk road is that they wanted to create a marketplace. where there were no rules there weren't but there was no government to come in and say what you could and couldn't do and they were going to let the world decide what the marketplace should look like and while i can't necessarily advocate selling you know harmful drugs and weapons. you know secretly through this

i can. appreciate the necessity of freedom and the ability to make decisions that others would disagree with and that's exactly what so so crowed and bought. and i think if we look at history will we see that society is no matter what a government does will always tend towards wanting to be free wanting to be free to make their own choices whether they're right or wrong with our levantine owner and operator of love a bit i'll say thank you so much for joining me thanks for having me meghan while we've heard of cases before where nefarious americans are milking the unemployment system in the us for a free ride but what if i told you that tens of millions of dollars that are meant to help families get through those tough times are going to prison inmates in new jersey alone prisoners found a way to cheat the system out of more than twenty three million dollars in unemployment benefits and medicaid in recent years artie's perry and boring

explains how all of this is possible and what is being done to combat the problem. while the u.s. house is more prisoners than any other country the prisoners here have found a new way to continue to break the law even when they're behind bars billions of dollars in unemployment benefits are being and properly paid out in the u.s. many of which are fraudulent going to incarcerated people across the country but there's a new sheriff in town his name. david reichert former washington state's king county sheriff is bringing his law enforcement background to battle this very issue on capitol hill over the last five years there's estimated to be at least fifty eight billion dollars that are issued in fraudulent requests to be on point and response he introduced the perp act permanently ending receipt by prisoners act to make it absolutely clear that people in jail are not eligible to

collect unemployment insurance benefits if you're in jail you're not available to go to work you should not be receiving unemployment insurance you're right but how did this happen in the first place glenn jacobs the founder of the tennessee liberty alliance weighs in i think it makes our society less compassionate because instead of thinking that i need to help my neighbors and i need to be the person to help someone who might be in trouble or we just say well there's a government program for that they should go down the unemployment office well there are people that take advantage of the system states also lack the resources to adequately implement checks and balances as the department of workforce development commissioner in indiana testifies about in congress on i think they have the staff or the resources to go after unemployment insurance fraud nor do they have the expertise it is such a unique field and this problem grew a much worse during the economic downturn when the unemployment rate shot up to historic highs the need for improved integrity became evident during the great

recession and the lack of integrity in the system led to dramatic increases in benefit payments significantly higher benefit payment errors and doubling of employer taxes between the years of two thousand and two and two thousand and four eight million people claimed unemployment benefits totaling twenty eight billion dollars since the two thousand and eight financial collapse twenty four million people have claimed unemployment totaling two hundred fifty two billion dollars while many people rely on these funds just to make ends meet waste fraud and abuse is up which. hinders the program's integrity and representative riker is ready to put a stop to it so take it back to the days when i was driving troll car if you don't stop people for speeding. right everybody thinks they can speed so we don't hold people to the law on a freeway and start citing people for doing over seventy miles an hour pretty soon everybody's doing unemployment fraud is a criminal offense and with representative records in this you tips and washington

states are ramping up efforts to prosecute offenders anyone caught gaming the system by cashing undeserved checks could face possible prisons and says and the inability to collect unemployment in the future washington d.c. perry and boring r.t. more than two years after a massive earthquake and subsequent tsunami or rocked japan to its core and through its nuclear reactors into a frenzy nuclear engineers are entering perhaps the most dangerous stage of containment for the fukushima daiichi power plant this week teams are preparing to move the highly sensitive uranium and plutonium fuel rods from the facility experts what the tokyo electric power agency or tepco say that it is an extremely tricky process but a necessary step in order to decommission the plant after the worst atomic accident in a generation artie's alexei you're a chef skiis in tokyo and talks about how dangerous this mission is. tracking these

rods from the balls is a really hard task because each one of them called ways of more than three hundred kilograms and they cannot even hit each other that's would cause a nuclear chain reactions not only these pools are crippled but the machinery the automated machinery doesn't work as well so every rod has to be extracted from the pool manually the typical company running the fukushima clear up process and the japanese government are now in a vicious cycle situation because on the one hand they need to remove these fuel rods they are contaminating the water as has been reported in the waters of the fukushima nuclear power plant and on the other hand of course this is a very risky venture because they have to literally extract every rod and there's more than a thousand of them and each rod has to be extracted manually we also managed to take a peek inside the no go zone in other areas and you know what what shocked me the most that surprised me the most and i'm saying that by my experiences of travelling to the explosions on ensure a normal that in the fukushima area the towns which are just close to the station ten fifteen kilometers away from the station they have been reopened for residents

were literally saw people rebuilding their houses in this area in case anything happens these people would have to be relieved evacuated again and or putting themselves under a very serious risk well in fact in the fukushima region itself there are several n.g.o.s who do not believe the government and the nation in their measurements or the radiation levels the one which struck me the most and we talked with them yesterday the movement called the mothers of fukushima these are ordinary women who are afraid for the safety and health of their children they radiation meters which is the cheapest of them costs around a thousand u.s. dollars and they're just but trawling the areas taking their own measurements and sending them to the government but the government as they say is doing nothing is not considering the radiation measurements as if they're trying to play down the scale of the things happening even in tokyo in front of the industrial ministry there is a peek at there is a protest happening for already eight hundred days with the people there protesting against nuclear energy and the air. actions of the government and the tepco so you

can see how serious the rhetoric of the anti-nuclear movement is now in japan even though they say that their voices being often silenced by those of power that was r.t. correspondent alexei euro chef ski hill america has seen a bevy of a list celebrities run for office arnold schwarzenegger jesse ventura al franken fred thomas and who can forget sonny bono tonight's resident takes a look at ted nugent's potential run for office. a lot of people tell me they never know if i'm being serious or not so let me say up front on this one i am being very serious when i say that america should

consider gun loving outspoken rock n roll legend ted nugent for its next president recently ted cut his hair and there was an immediate speculation that it was his play gearing up to run for office when someone asked him if he'd run for president he said sure why not he said that's not why he cut his hair but he said the rest of his running for office is alive and well ted nugent has said some awful things recently he compared himself to rosa parks when he said i exercise my first amendment rights like my hero rosa parks so refused to sit at the back of the bus when men no law existed he's also the guy that said black americans should be profiled the same way different breeds of dogs are considered dangerous he said if saddam asian has been fighting the children in the neighborhood i think we're going to look for a black and white dog he also said he wouldn't mind shooting rez. and of al eight

thousand central neighborhood with a machine gun from a helicopter he said that the supreme court's ruling on obamacare is evidence that the south should have won the civil war he put together his huge immigration plan which allows under documented immigrants to become citizens after serving five years of indentured servitude put to work to build a border fence he said the most racist in our government does is to print literature in spanish to head the guy who told an audience at an n.r.a. meeting the station chopped off democrats had in the election back in two thousand and twelve and that he'd end up dead or in jail if obama got reelected vast and in meetings with the secret service and now he is hinting at running for president and to that i say awesome bring it dead you say some crazy crap but at least you're say what you actually believe at least you're honest at least i know what i'm

getting with you a walking caricature of what much of the rest of the world thinks of americans at this point i'll vote for anyone who is just willing to tell the country what he really believes however rotten scary or controversial that might be and that i'm being very serious about tonight but talk about that by following me and twitter at the red cent. all right that does it for me for tonight but for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash r t america or was our web site r.t. dot com slash usa have a great night. i

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