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from around the globe. breaking news on r t a boeing seven three seven passenger jet has crashed a night in russia's city of because when attempting to land killing all fifty on board the pilot there are technical problems and weather conditions of cited as the most possible causes of what went so badly wrong. if you're just joining us my name is kevin o. in the start international live from moscow normally of course we bring you the weekly or rather the big stories of the last seven days on a sunday night but tonight we're spending the first fifteen minutes of this program to talk about the really unfortunate used tonight that's come through from central
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russia this plane crash all fifty people on board a boeing seven three seven died after the plane crashed on landing in central russia that jet was finishing its journey from moscow when tragedy struck well these are the latest pictures now used by to show you from the site where the airliner crashed and caught fire apparently while making a second landing attempt for forty four passengers including two children six crew members on that flight the search and rescue operation has ended about half an hour ago no artes to bring more sales but across the latest developments joins us live in the studio. bring us up to date if you would please. well indeed we've now had a confirmation that a fifty people who were onboard that flight that tatarstan flight seventy three seven have been killed earlier are now just a minute after the crash happened we did speak to the spokesperson of the tartars stand in line and this is what he had to say. and i bring you the
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boeing seven three seven was carrying out flight you nyunt three sixty three from moscow. while it was attempting to land for the second time the plane crashed there were forty four passengers on board and six crew members the reasons for the crash are now being investigated. now among those forty four people who are on board the cabin the latest that has come out is that the president of russia's republic of tatarstan son mr. meaning of his twenty three year old eldest son elect was on that flight as one of the passengers on the flight together with those forty four passengers that were also two children who were found among the people who were aboard that flight one of the things that has just been developing as this story has come through is that the pilot is allegedly have been quite new to this team as well to this flight and so this was his first flight
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out on this the boeing seven three seven we also know that it could have been a technical error as they said all it could have been the weather and indeed it could have also been a pilot error so all those three factors could have affected what happened this evening at seven seven thirty eight one thousand. nine hundred twenty moscow time so we're really just waiting for the investigation and hopefully they'll find the black box and the data box to find out what really happened. so many questions of what went wrong what should have been an hour and forty floyd starting off at six o'clock tonight moscow time from the report of course our thoughts very much as well with the friends and family very superficial on board what we know about him it was completely new plane but it was a boeing a western. while in theory if that's true i mean the boys are very very.
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popular planes if you if you had to say that we know that you know the company started out in. in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven and they have they one of the best selling jetliners in the world now this particular one eight had only been in service from june of ninety ninety and has been going on for twenty three years and five months or so this is the flight that actually question day we also know that a similar incident had happened before with the same airline last year way the almost it had an emergency landing but no one was actually killed in that crash now in terms of this particular airline in two thousand and eight the worst casualty there was seen there was eighty eight people had died in pam now in terms of russian aviation the war is hit was in twenty eleven this is the second after the twenty eleven we we all remember that killing of forty four of the entire. team as
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well as the two thousand and eleven one in. that killed fifty two on board as well as. forty seven out of the fifty two who were on board so there are there have been casualties a certain models of the boy in seventy seven that have indeed seen really horrific crashes in recent years and this unfortunately today has just happened here in carson just eight hundred kilometers of from moscow like you said that one hour trip from here one and a half hour trip from moscow to cars and could have been a smooth sailing but all these other factors we have so many questions and i'm sure the families to want to have the answers as soon as possible and i'm sure once that data box gets found these answers will have a clearer picture as indeed what really happened. you know so for appreciated worse troy and produce together what could have gone so badly wrong or a bit more now with former professional pilot looked at the causes of crashes for many
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years internationally. for doing it more operations. from flight global magazine joins us on the line now as i was saying we have a guess we permit some fortunate david in the herd here to speak to is when there's been a terrible crash like this tonight. a source has told a russian news agency that this jet had had the clearance and technical checks cleared prior from taking off from domodedovo airport moscow and you know these things are standard they're pretty complex as well so it was clear to take off what do you think could have gone so badly wrong here it's difficult i know to say but what could happen well one of the most useful things you can do when you don't know very much is to work up what it probably was not what the cause was probably not for example whether it's always the first thing that i have a look at whether in the vicinity but actually although it wasn't a lucky day the visibility was good the cloud base was not particularly low the
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wind was not high it wasn't freezing temperatures that was well above freezing so i don't think that weather was a factor in this one. the fact that the pilots were trying to make a second approach indicates that on the first approach there was something that they weren't happy with now i suspect that the or far it is have already spoken to air traffic control to find out why they didn't continue with the first approach so you know we're looking here at the possibility of some kind of a technical problem with the airplane which the true was not happy with and the main the way they're going to try and track this down i guess as well as this thing to the last minutes the conversation between those pilots they try to control the going to want to get those flight data recorders know they're normally in the tail of a seven three seven yet well along with most planes i guess that would be the last thing to hit in theory here some in that they will recover the i mean moscow's very very good suit per air safety organization i mean the international civil
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aviation organization is. all dishes russia for its safety oversight systems and there are no complaints russia's safety oversight systems and its technical systems are well above the world outteridge its its international airlines are very very good and what about other stuff what do we know about their. well. i mean there have been a few incidents yes but but you know airlines that have a good safety record overall have incidents from time to time russian domestic aviation doesn't have a particularly good. record compared with the world at large russian international aviation has a very good reputation on the international stage it's only on the domestic stage
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that things don't look so good but the oversight is very good indeed that is the the government's official oversight of safety is going and relevance to the fact this plane was twenty three years old as for us play the concern that is pretty old but it has been serviced ok but i was looking at the past record of it's been for one two three four five six six previous airlines up until the start to be read anything it's even been in storage in mexico in two thousand and five two with anything into that or not. well yes i mean of course you could i mean you're quite right in what you say that. that twenty three year old it's twenty three years actually is not old for an aircraft through jessica craft that is i would say that is middle aged ok it's not rare for a jet airliners to be flying into their thirty's and there is still quite a few flying around the world at the moment which are more than forty years old it all depends it's like owning a beautiful old car if you look after it well it will look after you well but there
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is no question about that the very thought that the more recently you bought your airplane the latest generation of jets has a massively better safety record than jets from that period and it's not only because jets from that period are getting old it's also because jets from today's period are very much smarter than the jets from that period to one final four looking back a year this very same plane it's called sign v.q. b.b.n. apparently did make an emergency landing just about a year ago at the very same airport that's a start airlines believe after a decompression warning we don't hear anyone was injured i don't know where there's any relevance thurman thinking back to that big crash you called many years about seven four seven made a hard landing and then twenty three years later was up in the air and the back blow out of it this doesn't sound like it's a similar kind of instant does exist what came down no no the i don't think we're
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talking about decompression here because this aircraft was at low altitude so compression was not an issue and the other thing is that boeing seven three seven actually over the history of this incredibly popular jetliner there have been quite a few decompression incidents in its history but but they haven't usually on only on one occasion as it lead to disaster but i don't think we're talking about that here i suspect that. that technical problem might have come into it and the black box will very very soon tell your therapy's what that technical problem was but we don't know ourselves at this moment what it might have been or they're saying the recovery operations are over i've not heard of a news wire here where they've actually found that it's normally two boxes or one on a seven three seven they know it's two boxes one of them records all of the communications on the flight deck that's what the pilots say to each other what the pilots say on the radio all the incoming voice messages from air traffic control and also you can
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even hear things like the engine noise if there was an explosion on board you would hear that there in the other box is is i suppose you could say the main one but they're both very important in their own way is the flight data recorder which records basically the health of the airplane it records what the engines are doing it records the profile of the aircraft speed it's ass it's huge it records all sorts of parameters the airlines you know what the airline is doing from minute to minute and it will be at least half an hour of recording of this and it may be more before the time that the action accident actually happened so your therapist will have a great deal of information to work with so a huge focus on fighting that hopefully it's intact david lim operations and safety editor for flight global magazine thanks ever so much going on r.t. you know tonight well i spoke earlier to russian aviation expert here and carol he shared his thoughts on what could have possibly gone wrong on flight three six think this was about thirty minutes after i got the first news. well first have to
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know why did the crew decide to go wrong or the cause of technical malfunction was because the weather conditions or the something else maybe could incapacitation well. probably the least possible reason well how will we have to know for sure why did it have to change. flight that or if it was a technical one of multi-function what kind of camo function was it was a to mechanical malfunction. something happened to the litigation agreed and all the aircraft and providing that in our most airlines new exercise. how to model for the automatic landing that may be prominent in the live ignition equipment didn't lead to the crash. went on to speak to me as well about whether cause an airport is a difficult port to land they don't know. well i wouldn't.
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use the meaning of the. original ending. fully automatic landing but. part of that cried all the way there are. actually the aircraft levels are a joke because the landing. craft. group have to want it very carefully. indication of what it would. probably be indication locally or should immediately go around. your career speak to be just about half an hour if you got the first news of this reminder developments over the past few hours that i tried to start
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a boeing seven three seven jet crashed earlier while landing in port in central russia it's killed all fifty on board there were forty four passengers and six crew . teams say that all bodies have been recovered now emergency officials go on to say there was an explosion as flight three six three from moscow domodedovo airport tried to land it's thought that plane started losing altitude rapidly as it came into landing at the jets nose of probably hit the ground during the second touchdown these are the first moving pictures we've got there was taken some investigators suspect pilot error to be the main cause of the crash possibly two technical problems with the jet weather has been ruled out initially because an airport will stay closed for now jet itself was a boeing seven three seven five hundred series it had been in use for twenty three years as we're chatting about it earlier on they would say that and operated by tatarstan air since two thousand and eight this is r t thanks for your company we've got more world news for you in our view the week after the break.
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exactly what happened that day i don't know but i killed. piers later is when i got arrested for. for a crime i did not do. we have numerous cases where police officers lie about polygraph results. innocent people to confess to police officers don't beat people anymore i mean it just doesn't happen really. in the course of interrogation why because there's been this is like meant no because the psychological techniques are more effective in obtaining confessions than physical abuse and they were often they could get what they wanted they can say what they wanted and there was no evidence of what they did or what they said.
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more of big stories in the last seven days now in this week's interlude between the two rounds of crucial talks over iran's nuclear program sense of mixed signals on the one side the u.n. watchdog declare that atomic projects have virtually been frozen since president rouhani came to power there on the other side u.s. lawmakers are insisting it more sanctions are placed on a rather that's a move that threatens to derail the whole deal that the white house is urging congress to give diplomacy a charm soever but the powerful israeli lobby is insisting on tougher penalties now
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the previous writer to go see actions fail to produce any result reportedly because of france's surprise opposition from his part in israel no he's already assured that france will be tough and will not eat its pressure on iran during next week's nuclear talks said hussein was serbian spoke to me isn't really an policymaker who did used to be on iran's nuclear diplomacy team to really go see oceans in the eye he says france's behavior shows double standard. france has a bloc peaceful because of israeli claims i think this is a historical mistake france is making the i has about five thousand. inspections. and nuclear program and frequently has announced there is no evidence of day version toward that end is asian this is clear but i really dealt with the real concern of france visible nuclear bomb
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because france has a strategic relations with israel way israel is not a member of n.p.t. and possess about four hundred nuclear bombs. concerned about nuclear bomb france help israel to master nuclear bomb france held in india to master nuclear bomb therefore france has a very very bad record. well should the talks result in something israel isn't happy with it's reportedly ready to join forces with a former sworn enemy no for a possible strike on iran britain has something times newspaper suggest saudi arabia is working closely with israel's military campaign if iran's nuclear program is encouraged by an agreement in geneva under the support of planned saudi arabia is understood to be allowing israel use of its airspace it would also assist israel in deploying combat drones helicopters and tanker planes part of the saudis are firas and they're willing to give israel all the help it's needs that's what an anonymous source allegedly told the newspaper the sunni muslim gold kingdom's
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alarmed that shiite dominated iran could get a nuclear weapon at some point a concern of course shared by israel to iranian political analysts mohammad marandi thinks that if the saudi israeli plan does play out there would be no winners. well we don't know if these reports are true but the saudis and the israelis are moving closer and closer to one another however it's highly unlikely that the saudis or the israelis would really want to iran. you know you lose your house they would be seen in the grass around. going to what you know very well it would create an economic catastrophe for the world. that would mobilize the whole middle east especially people on the streets in support of iran they would isolate israel after all the americans with all their firepower. failed in their attempt to bring about syria because world public opinion and american public
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opinion simply would not accept it. well if such plans do exist they might come to life even if next week geneva nuclear talks ended agreement of some kind we're asking you tonight if you think a deal can be reached thanks for voting liberal that graph telling us more than half of you fifty three percent who voted so far think israel's opposition would prevent any deal just about a third of you just on the third thirty percent believe there is a charge but only if the west recognizes iran's right to nuclear energy a little over ten percent if you this hour now are pessimistic saying that neither side needs a deal so badly they're going to rush into it and the final five percent there say iran will agree to a deal only after sanctions leave it with no other choice you can argue or voiced that at r.t. dot com. syria could be free of most of its chemical arsenal by the end of the year if another country turns up willing to take it on that's the key the ambitious deadline was set by the international
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chemical watchdog as part of a road map which says all toxic stockpiles must be destroyed by the end of next june but the biggest problem now a lack of volunteers to take on this delicate task of eliminating more than a thousand tons of highly poisonous materials norway was first given no its refusal there was a couple of days ago which saw a series of protests against the country being the destruction site for syria's arsenal political analyst chris bambery told us he should be europe's wealthiest nations to step in here to implement this ambitious elimination plan. my understanding is that they will go to france and i think it's really the onus is on britain or france in terms of the western european powers to deal with this because as i say they do have chemical weapons although we don't advertise the fact that britain and france have stockpiles of chemical weapons they do have the ability to do that the french and the british have the facilities wordly to dismantle these things safely they have the expertise surely that's the better option has abided by
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this deal the west should really put its money where its mouth is here it's up to this deal it's sending ships in this case norwegian ship to deal with this but the norwegians claiming they don't have the expertise to dismantle it you can see why chemical weapons see the will not to take them in and i think it kind of smacks of resentment over the fact that really in the end this deal has come or. brokered a deal. and no syria has abided by the agreements of it and i can't hear but feel there's a kind of resentment in european capitals that actually a deal has worked chris bambery they will leave without hosting syria's chemical weapons the ease being dragged deeper and deeper into the conflict intelligence chiefs in the week believe more than a thousand young european muslims have no join the islamists in the fighting in syria it's thought that being recruited through social media the counterterrorism coordinator says that you had this agenda goes further than toppling assad to it's actually a real threat these days to europe. we are in the process of trying to understand
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better the reason why so many europeans are going to syria where we start being concerned it's with and that's what we understand many of the mean the joining of. groups which not only wants to work through a sad but of the global jihad rhetoric and share fully the project if i get out and therefore we think i think would see that in the future but that many of them will get back in europe much more radical he means by that recruit other or they meet for sub even directed want to attack in europe. it's coming up to twenty five minutes now past eleven and i look about for a minute or two to our main story tonight it's been developing of the last few hours a tatter star a boeing seven three seven jets crash landed while trying to land an airport in
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central russia it's killed all fifty on board tonight there are forty four passengers and six crew on board that ill fated play all bodies have now been recovered we hear emergency officials say there was an explosion as flight three six three from moscow tried to land it's thought the plane started losing altitude rapidly as it came in to land in the jet's nose apparently hit the ground during touchdown investigators suspect pilot error to be the main cause of the crash and possibly technical problems with the jet as well because an airport is closed for now the jet itself a boeing seven three seven five hundred been in use for twenty three years it's bought by tatarstan air since two thousand they were hoping to get hold of a passenger incidentally who traveled on that very plane that's crashed but in the other direction earlier on today when it was heading from an international airport the hub airport of tatarstan company airways traveling to moscow domodedovo airport . to deliver hopefully we can catch up with her in the next minute or two we're
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trying to make a connection if we can't we'll record an interview with her she said she had a ropey flight and whether that's a cause of any relevance or not to what's happened tonight but she was reporting apparently to journalists just a minute or two ago that the flight she was on was a very ropey floyd it was noisy vibrated i must add this is the flight earlier on today we think this same stricken plane and that it was a very ropey plane indeed now this is according to her and as i say at this point we know not at all whether that's got anything to do with what's going so tragically wrong with this plane tonight when it was going the other way from domodedovo airport taking off at six o'clock tonight should have landed about an hour and forty minutes later. international airport but of course it took a tragic turn we think on its second attempt to land and the all fifty have perished on board the plane as it was trying to land the airport twenty five kilometers southeast of an airport incidentally that's pretty well equipped it
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handles nearly one million passengers yearly it's apparently a category three airport which means that it's got the latest equipment to help planes basically land almost automatically obviously the pilots in control because bad weather or anything like that it can land almost by itself we're hearing that there wasn't a problem with weather tonight or kate no i gather that we do have on the line. to divert she was on that very plane earlier on. hi there you're live on r.t. international thanks for being with us i believe you don't speak english in this is being translated but a very good evening to you last thirty or. if you can you tell us what your experience was of traveling on this plane on that flight earlier on today from moscow than. yeah so i'm stealing.
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you always flying. on a plane operated by a talk first on. something else in. london the. flight was. it was smooth. but as we were at roche in moscow. while we were landing. there was a very strong vibration. and i thought that it probably was due to the weather conditions but when we were already outside i saw that the weather is actually fine in moscow. plane was shake you too much so there was a feeling. that it was actually kind of shifting from one side to the and it was not comfortable at all it was it feeling. that we might actually live still and in strip. i guess there was. a gasoline
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or of this is the same plane you're talking about we don't know if it was the same plane but i guess if it was the one that left earlier on. to moscow got there about four o'clock i guess it would have been the same plane still to be confirmed taking off a couple of hours later going back to. that must if it is the case it must be a very weird feeling for you. yes. or even more. gas it is exactly the same flight i how are the number markings on the boarding passes. it was huge to departure in two hours after the arrival. what condition was this plane and you mentioned you had a very rough landing there but it's for this difficult to say for.

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