tv Documentary RT November 17, 2013 4:29pm-5:01pm EST
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i picked. the crime is not a viola manville a seventy four year old woman found dead on the twenty ninth of november one thousand nine hundred eighty eight along this dirt track. dozens of suspects will be questioned and will be released including frank sterling seen in this photograph . two years later detectives trained by reed reopen the case not convinced frank is guilty. a few years earlier his brother had been sentenced to prison for raping viola manning and frank sterling is thought to have wanted revenge.
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the police are relentless and pressed sterling until he cracks. eleventh of july nine hundred ninety one and exhausted frank sterling admits to the mudda his confession is recorded. many years later the murder of a four year old girl is arrested he also confesses to the murder of viola manning and traces of his d.n.a. confirm the fact. frank sterling is released on the twenty eighth of april two thousand and ten after serving nineteen years now age fifty four frank has become frail and anxious and finds it hard to talk about his feelings. april twenty eighth two thousand and ten the day i get released. whether. freedom. from frank sterling obtained his freedom
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largely due to the vigorous efforts of his lawyer donald thomson under the war with the question remains why did he ever come face to a crime he never committed. and beat people anymore i mean it just doesn't happen really in the course of interrogation because there's been a sad light moment no because the psychological techniques are more effective in obtaining confessions than physical abuse. in the case of frank sterling only his confession was filmed but the video speaks for itself. the two policemen had applied the reid method as well as some of their own making. they offering coffee and donuts to prepare frank sterling for his final declaration of guilt. but what had gone on before.
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i remember the. shoulders. trying to be all buddy buddy and we're here for. a drive. and all that. you're not listening to me. over and over and it's like ok i'll give you what you want well they had this weird interrogation technique in your case that i've never seen before since where they are rubbing his feed and rubbing his back and having him lie on the floor put his feet up on the chair and whispering in his ear you know picture yourself out of the crime scene now picture the victim here she comes what do you do you know all this kind of really hypnotic kind of suggestion in the video the confession is
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just the acceptable face of what happened during the interrogation. to help frank admit to the crime he didn't commit one of the offices is rubbing his shoulder as the other is holding his hand. if you. does it you can. right. here and speak up. sort of like you're floating he said on the chair but you're going on as if you feel like you're sitting at a chair no weight any shoulders. no scars no a. like an out of body. why does someone consists of crying that she didn't do.
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you know because we had so tired you know really like four hours sleep you know for the three days and like. i just try to go on or sleep you know. yes i was very. prejudices your finals are difficult for you ok. if something happened with them. yesterday. one of. the ratio yes even when you're learning. something.
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anything religion is difficult for. regime leaders vision. of. eric. yet. this form of questioning shows how an innocent man can be made to confess with no recourse whatsoever to violence psychology has thus become a powerful weapon in the hands of the police and frank was one of its deliberate victims. to prevent any possible excesses has given rise to a new kind of specialist the lawyer expert. it's even inspired hollywood and its popular series lie to me because. certainly the small psychologist helps result crimes by observing body language and facial expressions it may be human nature for the truth is written for all of us.
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stand walters has been a lie expert for the past twenty five years. like to say i'm taking a little trip inside the swamp of their brain. in a morning around a swamp and i'm fighting the rotten stuff and trying to drag it out for four of the people. who will to his crisscrosses the united states to spread the basics of good interrogation techniques to the police. his unique methods upset many of the theories online including those of his pia's. here in texas they did a study on interrogation training and they tested years officers ability to spot deception and use it to training courses they brought him back and test them again
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what he found one hundred ninety officers now got better and improved after two courses they looked at the content of courses and found those courses were perpetuating the myths stem malta's campaigns against preconceptions and received ideas. very little body language as anything to with the steps in crossing arms what else. could get one of those a hand up building hazing the other causing legs sitting on hands wrapping feet around a chair holding on because of the angles of the chair no correlation deception none. possibly stress but there is no difference whatsoever and when i contact lars make a true killers and no connection. and now the myth the myth of i move in the left leg and right and i'm swimming against the tide and i get academies and hate me for this and kids my. kids are doing
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a disservice teaching again and again and again trained officers who thought they were great at spotting a lie before and worse in civilian population and had no training in deception which tells you what about training. to general. what about his methods together a bundle of clues based on behavior and language which could indicate a suspect may be lying beyond any stress he may be feeling. as well known people such as bill clinton he is seen lying to the entire nation when he claims he never had sexual relations with white house intern monica lewinsky. i never told anybody it's a lot there wasn't so much is deception here with president clinton other then there were some symptoms that told us he would be totally open one he refers to monica lewinsky is that one that is a very typical depersonalization its way of separating oneself and being above or
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outside the realm or better than that the other one is his emotion and using it is a parent's faceless person is the hostility of anger then a split second when he turns to walk away watch with a smile not a single. these allegations are false and i need to go back to work. switch from anger to smile another is courtney love suspected of being a drug addict now ron nothing to that and that i'll know how my god i'm going to ask a lot of questions that people think now my parent that out and out with courtney love you see shock when she's asked about their own question was a good stress marker to see her version of body away get multiple answers if she has a good strong question braver's was consistent was only being deceptive that you and later we know that she has had a long history of drug abuse from you on nothing now
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so the first question is very general you know nothing and they know and barbara they ask. a more pointed question now you see you react no more heroin and so you know body jump wrong nothing today no know how. to face expression the large eyes from a shock response of the question this one stones or so it's as if i were the interviewer that means i would follow up on here on questions that's a single me of of incriminating potential my god i'm going to ask you all the questions that people think now my hair and that and watch your body back. and away from barbara and multiple no answers. or. a notice we haven't really answered their own question your back to project and treasury pointedly ever done drugs in front of your children and watch the huge
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reaction again an apparent cluster behaviors of deception ever got us in front of a chap like god let us out or make sure that i'm not looking for meth again body language is got a large margin of error so i'm looking at groupings and looking for it to be consistent so if i'm there an issue comes up to keep getting these powerful responses and i keep getting similar cluster behaviors of that damage stress or cause to behavior that we think are it and put some point consistent deception. on stem alters criticizes the most is the obsession the police have with obtaining a confession at the cost of the investigation this is what happened in the little town of camden a narcan saw in early august two thousand and six when the body of eleven year old katie was found in the small hints. she had been suffocated using
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a plastic bag. after a botched investigation detectives determined the murder had to have been inside the house. in fact only katie's mother melody and twelve year old brother thomas were inside. when the police arrived the military was hysterical while thomas seemed quite calm. cool and thomas's moya believes the police became fixated with his behavior which they judged as to come and convince them that thomas had killed his sister. did you know the prize is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution and. that's because a free and open prize is critical to our democracy correct albus. in
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today and the no. on. the first thing that went wrong is that as soon as the police got to the house they decided thomas had committed this crime that was their first error and then everything they dead after that just compounded the error. thomas was twelve years old at the time today he's nineteen. and the police pressure he confessed to everything and was sent to prison. the supreme court would overturn the sentence two years later after the details of his interrogation were revealed. the video recording of the interview was appalling. the pictures caused the worst police scandal in the history of the state of arkansas.
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it cost. us our place. i mean listen to some of some of the stories. and. like it is your valuable irish. where you were very intelligent. and the irony is you know that i broke it and. there's no indication of a break here. so your sister died. and there was only two people in russia could kill. here. that's the only way i can do a book there i go i live you understand it ok the tone is set right from the start the police never question thomas about his movements all the facts but are relentless convinced of his guilt the basic era which should never happen during questioning so i was scared then i was going to. didn't know what to do
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just there things were so fast that we just sat there for hours. not knowing what was going to happen. just i was lost it's no longer an interrogation but a never ending series of accusations. that would leave a man. just inside. well. rick. oh i don't know. i didn't want to know why. i wanted it if your mother didn't leave i don't care. you know you did. well. you know. you can do i did you. i did it. you feel well.
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thomas will deny killing his sister thirty six times. do you. told me mom and i completely trust my mother to protect me at all. so she couldn't have done it and the only way it could happen is if i had done it so i thought the police and tell me the truth so i just. don't remember doing it. so confused. can't talk to. the police use the smallest details of the
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boy's life to further incriminate him. you're probably right yes. keisha but my medication. do you think if you know. did you. control. my gait but i really think that you are going to feel yourself. and to help yourself you're going to get it is. hard. life. most kids would have confessed to this crime a lot saner it's a it's absolutely amazing that he was able to withstand their.
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badgering of him as long as he damn. the constant harassment has a name the police call it quote cooking over a small fire the officers leave the room and leave thomas to stew on his own there's no need for physical pressure as the suspects imagination runs wild as to what would happen if he doesn't confess the tactic works inside the mind of the twelve year old kid. who was shaken nerves sweat and cry and. this is an emotional breakdown. confused by the accusations thomas begins to break down. while there i thought maybe i blacked out. because the cops find the cops could a lot of me. nobody
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. oh oh. well. after more than one house cross-examination the police have still been on able to make thomas confess so they turn on his mother melody. she's bipolar and hasn't taken her medicines for six months but the police focus their questions on getting her to point the finger of blame at her own son.
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when we really know he hollered and then he went he got on like a. bit strained and then he went to get. alzheimer's comic con out here you know. my right. i don't remember but i don't think so. i didn't. ya know. it was they didn't notice it was gone but as soon as my mother. who was there to help me but she betrayed me try to much for of. just spreads through me to the cops and said he did it. there are your own families your only car. that went nowhere near.
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as his mother condemns him thomas' interrogation continues this time off camera half for a while thomas finally says i'm hungry i haven't had anything to eat all day and then they turn off the tape and they take him in the other room for the next three and a half hours they interrogated thomas just like they had been doing on tape but now they were off tight they could do what they wanted they could say what they wanted and there was no evidence of what they did or what they said. turning into a girl and he's all talk to me tell me that it was only me who could have that if i do not confess before he left he was going to give me the death penalty. so he left and i got scared i called him back in there and by then i realized no way i was going to leave without telling them i did it. to tell me if i had just told them
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the truth or what they wanted to hear i could go home so i gave them a story. they said that and so they added beats bits and pieces for me to add in my story to look fit what they wanted it to. and when i took them back on camera. off an hour later he's like an automaton that repeats everything the police have told him to confess. so i. turn off the t.v. . off
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. next morning. you shall see. or essentially the national chief of police contacted me and asked me to contact thomas regarding his interview and they want to use it as an example of how not to interview a child and i think that's very telling. after his admission the police leave thomas on his own to confront his mother. he whispers in her ear that he didn't
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reason the questioning of thomas went so badly is that the police are still focusing on confessions rather than evidence. of the three hundred one prisoners on death row or serving life sentences in the united states that were later proved innocent about ninety at made full scum fissions during interrogations that had been wrongly conducted. if you. know opportunity. to start
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