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breaking news on our team triumph or diplomacy deal between world powers and iran over its nuclear program is reached effectively putting an end to a decade long standoff we have live updates and analysis coming up. in other news angulo merkel says she wants to have a word with vladimir putin over ukraine that's up to the e.u. and russia accusing each other of meddling in the country's foreign policy to ensure its cooperation. and the olympic torch is on another leg of its epic journey to plunging to the bottom of the deepest like on earth after conquering open space.
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breaking news on archie this hour world powers and iran have reached a historic nuclear deal and the a decade long deadlock over to iran's nuclear ambitions the breakthrough came on the fifth day of intense talks after the foreign ministers from all six negotiating world powers changed their schedules and rushed to geneva now artie's polly boyko is there and joins us now on the line with the very latest polly do we know anything about the deal and what it actually took to finally reach it. high then in the world the deal was going can violate a tweet from catherine ashton the e.u.'s tip top diplomat spokes person broke the news and when now waiting to hear the details of that agreement we're waiting for all the foreign ministers of the p five plus one foreign ministers and
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the iranian foreign minister just adds a reef to meet in the united nations palace all the nations here in geneva to with . the exact details of the greenland but we have already had a few reports iran far from news agency is reporting that the deal would include that iran would no longer produce twenty percent purity uranium within the next six months and there is also a set. that is one of the reportedly now there is also. set to be a press conference as i said the foreign ministers after that will give separate press conferences in order to sort of talk about how the talks went from each of their sides now how has this deal been made we the media have been camped out through the night while the foreign ministers have been so rushing out that we've heard talk of. of meetings convening reconvening foreign ministers meeting
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separately then all together again and that happened a number of turns out tonight and it really was all completely up in the air until the very last minute it wasn't clear whether or not they would in fact be a deal whether or not they drag on the talks until the next day there was a complete media silence at the talks were completely shrouded in mystery and now we certainly had sticking points to talk about up until the deal was announced because one of the major issues was whether or not the blooding of the deal would include public recognition of yvonne's right to. raney and richmond and two hundred to the last name into major stumbling block was the a brac had the watch at the finish which could potentially produce weapons grade plutonium which is another way to a nuclear weapon so. we have forty goals to deal this is a historic moment it comes off to two sets of negotiations recently but more
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importantly off to ten years of political find dealing with the issue of iran's nuclear program so we'll see what the exact details of that agreement will be great to hear from catherine ashton in that promise of the nations in geneva and the soon as we know the details will be back to bring you much more all right our taste polly boyko reporting from geneva where a landmark nuclear deal with iran has just been raped thank you for that political analyst and former m i five officer any machine that america was unable to confirm that iran was actually developing nuclear weapons. one of the things that's being forgotten during all this debate about whether they are whether they're not trying to develop a nuclear weapons capability is that the u.s. national intelligence estimate of two thousand and seven which was the combined thinking of all sixteen of their intelligence agencies said very clearly back then that in their view iran had stopped trying to develop
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a nuclear weapons capability in two thousand and three and this was written in two thousand and seven and actually stopped the rush to war in fact george w. bush said biography that it stopped its capacity to go and invade iran and today this is been pretty much updated so there is no will as far as i can see you know within iran to try and develop this capability so it sounds very much like a lot of diplomatic hope there for various other background political reasons and i have to say if i were iran and i had been put on the list by george w. bush ten years ago as one of the five trees of the axis of evil and then look at what happened the other countries which include libya iraq and syria why not wouldn't i want some sort of to terror and potentially although they've made very clear that they don't want to have that to terror and they just want to have a source of energy. iran has been on a long and winding road to reach today's deal now back in one thousand nine hundred six the u.s. firmly moved down the track of sanctions lambaste in tehran after alleging its
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nuclear program serves military purposes that's also when the talk started but they reached a deadlock in two thousand and five and president ahmadinejad resumed uranium enrichment the u.n. were quick to respond unanimously agree on their own set of sanctions a year later this though failed to convince iran to drop its nuclear program on the contrary actually in two thousand and ten an increased level of uranium enrichment to twenty percent which was widely seen as a significant step towards arms production but also that year iran discovered a computer virus allegedly created by the u.s. and israel saying they used it to do you rail to iran's atomic program and finally this june iran elected hasan rouhani as its new president something many see as a game changer in tehran's relation with the west now earlier my colleague bill dodd discussed moscow's role in the diplomatic process artie's paul scott. paul what's russia's role in this latest round of talks on iran what russia's role in
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this process bill really is to bridge the gap between some in the west and iran russia has been opposed to iran acquiring a nuclear bomb but acknowledges that iran does have a right to peaceful nuclear program which iran says was really a precondition to these talks they were saying that no deal was going to be struck unless this precondition was met and russia has really tried to ease the tensions because that precondition led to some in the west being quite suspicious about iran and their motives and russia really has tried to ease those tensions and suspicions in order to try and get all parties around the table which they as they've obviously done and it's also something that's proven slightly easier of course since the election of his son rouhani who's a comparative moderate in comparison with his predecessor mahmoud ahmadinejad and what does moscow make of the potential of slapping more sanctions on iran as discussed by some politicians in the u.s. at the moment while russia isn't opposed to playing hardball with iran when it
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needs to with its role as a permanent member of the u.n. security council it has agreed to four rounds of sanctions against iran over the years between two thousand and six and two thousand and ten of the sanctions include a ban on the supply of heavy weaponry and nuclear related related technology a block on iranian arms exports and an asset freeze on key individuals and companies but as these sanctions have tightened over the years an economic sanctions have grown. they've started to hit the population of iran hard in moscow saying these are increasingly ineffective method really it's the wrong people that have been punished so the smiles and handshakes between moscow and iran no relationship between toronto moscow a complicated i think it's fair to say not as straightforward as perhaps it would seem on the face now in two thousand and seven a military deal was struck worth around eight hundred million dollars it was for to tehran to purchase missile defense systems from my. that was in two thousand and
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seven but then in two thousand and ten after a tightening of un sanctions russia's then president dmitri medvedev canceled that deal without any explanation not caused iran to call for compensation now the issue has since been resolved but it just shows there are complexities involved when dealing with iran and it is worth noting of course that is involved in iran's nuclear program very much so moscow funded the building of the bushehr nuclear plant in iran and it was only in september this year that it handed over complete control of that plant to the iranians and i think moscow sees this is possibly the way forward the way forward is cooperation with iran with the country's nuclear industry because if you're cooperating with the country there's less secrecy and then that could lead in turn to less mutual suspicion and i think that russia sees that as the way forward. what seemed like a major obstacle to the long awaited deal was israel's fury over any mention of the possibility of a compromise during the previous round of talks two weeks ago that position seemed
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to be impacting on the negotiating stance of france and the united states and israel staunch no to any deal which has cast a dark shadow over the talks impacting on both the american and french stances we spoke to john limbert the former u.s. deputy assistant secretary of state for iran he was among the diplomats held hostage during the notorious crisis at the u.s. embassy in tehran more than thirty years ago and believes it's israel not iran which has become more hardline. but we've seen i think in the last three or four months since the election of president president rouhani and since some of the statements of the support of the supreme leader is i think a change of direction and a serious change of direction by israeli friends tell me is within israel itself there's a lot of controversy over the issue of iran and what should israeli what should the israeli stand be and some of the more extreme stands that are coming that coming
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out which oppose any any deal are creating concern and concern in israel a lot of people are quite have been criticizing the prime minister look what what. prime minister netanyahu seems to be asking for is not a negotiated deal but in fact an iranian surrender where they are pressured into simply given giving up well that's that's not a negotiation that's a so that's a surrender and if you get if you do squeeze somebody so hard that they surrender such an it such an agreement simply isn't going to last. israel has long been claiming iran poses a threat to the whole of the middle east due to what it sees as tehran's pursuits of an atomic bomb iran however says it's only ever been looking to develop peaceful nuclear energy side mostafa cost. from the english department of the farce news
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agency believes it's israel which threatens the region the most. the regime which has. hundreds of nuclear warheads and has not signed any kind of international treaty to let the international community understand what's going on in that. so-called country called israel. they have what ever a country needs for aggression they have actually been invading other countries for decades and they have been in constant war with different award countries especially those in the region. earlier than a teacher can report on the talks from washington let's take a listen. with this new deal will presumably they want to you know they want to have iran and it of course in return to greater transparency into iran possibly halting the development of more advanced centrifuges they want
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to get. they they want to think again here on access to small amount of writing korean assets that are now frozen and also to have iran receive some limited sanctions relief now what what sanctions could be relieved that that's still a huge question here in washington and. the u.s. congress has not been eager to relieve any sanctions in fact they're talking about and you a round of sanctions saying they took president obama. to do some persuade the to persuade congress not to do that not to undermine this deal that they have reached will which will presumably cover. six months before the sides can reach a more permanent a more sweeping pact to with iran so when there is so really no indication at this point what the congress will will do especially with regard
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to sanctions because it is so far there's been a huge component missing in these negotiations and out would be trust washington iranians don't trust the u.s. and they've been doing duped before and washington doesn't trust iran when they say they're developing nuclear technology for a civilian use and are not trying to build a bomb and we also have to remember that what you run also wants to be part of the deal is their right to develop nuclear nuclear technologies for civilian use and. it's really not a right that the u.s. is not explicitly recognizing so it's very difficult to foresee at this point which way congress is going to go but we are going to see debates going on here for sure. cover aof be political scientists and former advisor to iran's
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nuclear negotiation team joins me live now assert thank you so much for joining us now you know we're hearing from a senior white house official that this does not include a clause that would recognize iran's right to enrich uranium what do you make of that. well we have seen straight man by. congress as an immigration i haven't seen. a green. green which would be disclosed to the public short me no the list given as our eggs are going to have to cut in really quick we apologize for this but we have got a news conference right now about to this new deal that's come out we'll get back to you as soon as we can let's let's let's head right over to that news conference . to be. in line up to her right.
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were. to do that. with. new. ride we see there the official announcement of what has taken place. you know a big a momentous time in in history right now that we're seeing you know we can't forget let's let's continue our what we were discussing with regard to these stipulations in this agreement our neutralizing its twenty percent enrichment enrich uranium
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stockpiles iran will halt progress on its nuclear program including that heavy water reactor near the town of iraq which was such a crux in this situation and it will allow intrusive inspections what do you have to say to that. i am. unsure. yes we are seeing the stipulations that iran has agreed to. with regarding a new neutralizing its twenty percent enriched uranium stockpiles that it will halt progress on its nuclear program including the heavy water reactor near the town of iraq and agreeing to intrusive inspections i mean what does this what does this mean for for iran and for the future. well you know do complex issues that has multiple dimensions so we cannot simply look at one
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specific a year and draw a broad broad generalization what iran has done is to continent gauche nation table with a flexible idea to really get women and to use our compromise and i'm good state and following down gently rather win win whereby you know there would be a quid pro quo. for some reading and nuclear sanctions they would be especially in terms of sanctions relief and recognition of iran's nuclear rights and so on and so forth and based on what we are hearing from geneva raf the indian object used for these little she asians have been largely met of course in any negotiation there's a process of give and i want to find our say that the iranians got everything they wanted and i mean you know vice versa what is important is that both sides reach
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good point of agreement removing their differences and and coming to a new you know a set or compromises on the lear years issues that are very weird because i'm complex technical and major. what iran is happy is that despite tremendous resistance the opposite side finally agreed. you know subtle language to recognize the iran in any number right to produce nuclear fuel by our reaching your a new. which is based on the articles of the nonproliferation treaty and you know that is a significant week for you for iran that will make you use the south when going to go she regime we fancy iraq ok well let's look at the timeline here we can't forget that this is only a temporary fix for six months given the amount of time it's taken to get to this
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point do you think that this is on their own they're on the track for a permanent solution. personally and i think that the mere fact that remain and approach the roadmap that they put forward you know a few weeks ago was accepted by the parties and that is physically clear that any first there will be directly linked to the anger in the final agreement and there wouldn't be as severe and so of negotiations and of harsher negotiation and because of that we are on track to what a final resolution that would fill the end of this unnecessary nuclear crisis and of course it's going to take a lot of air force and you know the six months the provisional timeline may need to be extended because there was you saw in terms of the marathon negotiations to reach this versus that but this is a very important breakthrough that is
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a landmark development that opens the gate we poor brother negotiation for the content when you're on and the west as you know very serious political implications and changes the calculations of a lot of the countries especially in the west toward iran i don't very delicate crime in middle east politics where we see the most acute cation of crisis news and so forth so i think this is a very good omen a good big four region on war peace and the lenient scene should be congratulated for their skillful diplomacy of protecting and defending iran's rights while at the same time showing prudence and concrete flexibility ok so in your opinion it is possible to build trust within a six month time frame even though it's such seemingly short it's something to build on in your opinion that it could possibly then be achieved this element of trust needed between the west and iran. yes and if i may add you know iran has
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been for a long time involving a two track negotiation you know to try to use. a yawner tonic agency that is she was in iran a couple of weeks ago signed a very important agreement with iran. the police a three month period for iran to take some significant transparency measures and that is another bouwmeester to measure this success of this agreement because as you just heard lady ashton. cooperation between iran and the i hear the varying porton part of you know this whole issue and in fact goes to the heart of these views because you don't lose them from i reporter are iran to the us if we're to be canceled framing it in a non-conference abuse the use of the gauge and use of force contested by iraq the list loosely in the larger correctly was let's play iran since then and this latest
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meeting between iran and iran was the lakers remind there are iran's commitment and dedication to you know and hans's cooperation with the year and to create an atmosphere of trust and confidence in this peaceful nuclear program well the geneva talks interestingly enough have made it unlikely allies is around static saudi arabia both are very dead set against telling with terror on wired you know why are they so against even negotiating. well to be honest with you has a clue because scientists who have been following you know the regional scene call quite some time i don't think this is primarily in nuclear proliferation issue you know we need news we have to put this in the context of the regional bank mammie the complex relations between the regional actors on and you know on the balance of power and so on and so forth so you know saudi arabia khans into the scene from one
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set up per strict in israel from another and of course the facade the surface explanation is concerned about so-called meaning and no clear threat now if that is where we're nice you know both for history be happy that now we have an agreement that the u.s. secretary of state john kerry creating a state that it reduces the risk it creates confidence in this peace one inning and program and creates greater of jake guarantees with respect to the absence of any potential means very very good so you know objectively speaking from their proliferation concerns are both really so the way we are usually all this should be applauded not to be rejected and lambasted as a bad deal but as i felt i think that you know proliferation is not the main issue of your concern about you know regional biases of power and assertion of union
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power into fissions of a good time to be seen on the west and and so on and so forth strongly you know we have to take all these into consideration to figure out where these two concepts conflict alright kind of a f.s.a. i'll be a political scientist and former advisor to iran's nuclear negotiation team thank you so much for joining us. i'm going to i remind you of the breaking news this hour six world powers and iran have reached historic nuclear deal ending the decade long deadlock over ten runs nuclear ambitions the breakthrough came on the fifth day of intense talks in geneva russia's foreign minister says the five plus one group of knowledge is iran's right to enrich uranium under the i.a.e.a. control sergey lavrov also said the negotiations these sanctions regime will be under the deal iran will hold to development of its nuclear program for six months during this time iran will regain access to assets worth as much as four billion
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dollars of hail the impact of the election of president hassan rouhani as paving the way to the talks also all the enriched uranium will reportedly remain in iran and won't be exported we'll bring you more on this and around thirty minutes from now stay with us. we. are the key to the play you call it the musical. use that no one is there with the game that you deserve answers from. place right close to. you and i think that your.
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