think. that you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution and. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy correct call for us. to make you know i'm sorry and on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going on when we go beyond identifying a problem you trust rational debate a real discussion critical issues facing america are you ready to join the movement and welcome the. long term arbonne in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture. want to hers in washington say they've reached a deal to fund the government past the next two years but does that deal have any

chance of passing the house of representatives which all of that and more in tonight's big picture politics panel also thanks to nelson mandela south africa considers universal health care institution all right if american lawmakers really want to honor his wife would they do the same thing with health care in this country and if we were serious about cutting down on suicides in this country we could do one simple thing legalize physician assisted suicide tell you why it's really taking. you need to know this big government is working and working exactly like it's supposed to be working but explain conservatives have been attacking the social safety net for decades and their argument really hasn't changed all that much since the johnson administration or even the franklin roosevelt administration for that

matter their government programs make people poor people specifically. lazy dependent and do nothing to keep them out of poverty now the flip side of this of course for the conservatives is that rich people need more incentives they need more tax cuts but what the conservatives this is turns out this is where the conservatives are really really wrong according to a new study out of columbia university by the washington post programs such as food stamps and unemployment insurance have made significant progress in easing the plight of the poor in the half century since the launch of the war on poverty in fact the safety net helped reduce the percentage of americans in poverty from twenty six percent nine hundred sixty seven to sixteen percent in two thousand and twelve studies of the all authors also found that there that if there were no safety net things would be a lot worse for america's poor according to their research without taking into account the role of government policy more americans twenty nine percent would be in poverty today compared with twenty seven percent in one thousand nine hundred

sixty seven another was a social safety net is working. linna johnson declared a war on poverty back in the one nine hundred sixty s. his goal was to actually eliminate poverty in the united states then along came the vietnam war and the expenses associated with it in america has not had a serious conversation since one thousand nine hundred sixty five about actually ending poverty in the united states however johnson was able to get some pieces of his war and poverty agenda up and running successfully and it is those programs programs like food stamps and medicaid that today protect americans from falling through the cracks even when the economic scales are stacked against them or when capitalism fails social safety net programs like food stamps and unemployment insurance were never meant to completely solve the problem of economic inequality are only there to protect people from the failures of capitalism that's because an economic system as an economic system capitalism is pretty unstable crashes and slumps are common and some would argue inevitable especially when we live in

a country where one party the republican party is absolutely committed to make the making the economy work only for one class the billionaire class so unless we're prepared to tell people to suck it up and live on the streets when the economy goes south we need to commit to providing everyone with a basic minimum standard of living in the best way we can do that is with a strong and healthy social safety net which is why the current social safety net needs if anything to be expanded. joining me for tonight's big picture politics panel are here a new some of the national advisory council the project twenty one black leadership network nate sweet progressive commentator and chris allman conservative commentator and activist and thank you all for joining me so you have all the good the social safety net i just did this little rant on this without an extension of an important piece of this which statement is unemployment insurance and if this

thing doesn't get extended at the end of the year and it's not apparently part of these budget negotiations which we'll talk about after the break. but it's going to be stopped because legislation because this is not extended one point three million americans are going to lose their unemployment benefits this is really a rough thing in a rough economy i mean the unemployment has insurance has helped keep people out of horrible poverty so what do we do you know tom let me just say this that you know what the people who are unemployed mean it's jobs right and this president for the last five years campaigned on it and ran on it that you know his and all these little extra doing their jobs you know we're going to be about jobs but basically how do you create jobs you create jobs by creating an atmosphere in which jobs can be created by the private sector and that includes easing some regulations. but let's start with obamacare. as a regulation not as you know exactly what you want to there's

a dollar for poison in the air from the hotel so it tells businesses who hire it once you hit fifty employees you have to provide health care wolf for small businesses that really hurts them and that keeps them out of that water you're going to have are you for a year i know you will always be up on republicans a very but whole rant was completely inaccurate on how republicans feel about the social safety net because we know that the safety net is there to help people in a crisis but why do you want to allow to leave that by israel also you know we should we should schiavo need to do we want to improve our economy this president promised he has failed to do anything but breck the economy i don't think there is any progressive out there who would look at the numbers of people on food stamps and say that success i think we would say we're happy that we have a government program in place so those people don't fall further into economic insecurity but i mean the real question here is whether or not. you know for

publicans we're so confident that the government is providing corporations from. more people than wire corporate profits at an all time high let's talk about this real business that says a very good point but you see look at this we see economic growth we see fewer fewer people able to participate in it partly because we do have not a social safety net but now we have a hammock and that's part of the problem because we were the incentives for people to get the skills necessary part of it is the lack of availability skills and this is the education this is the true answer hugo there's no there's no there might be one or two or three percent of americans who are sitting around going gee i think i'll just live in poverty on food stamps and unemployment benefits but the vast majority of people are in son of a they want a job why is it that we have so many medium to high skilled jobs that are going on field because of our insane trade policies are insane already not only one filled one yes going on field looking recounts the new york times ran has run a number of articles interviewing chamber of commerce members small business owners

there saying i can't find enough people to work this. or this job there's no question they're paying such lousy wages that we will do the job for those wages the growth the most or another employment most of what i can tell you as a job later if i ever you know i've done this four times in the last three years where i've run help wanted ads just here in washington d.c. for one job i'll get a least one hundred fifty serious applicants you know maybe three or four hundred people were sponsored there are a lot of people out there who are looking for where there are a lot of jobs that go in the field right now there's no question i don't get i mean if conservatives were concerned concerned about people not being able to develop skills to an economic downturn why wouldn't they support something like roosevelt did back during the one nine hundred thirty s. you know if a federal jobs act you know something to put people back to work and solve the infrastructure well they didn't have to bury them except it's not a real purge is going to self sufficient give a real questions a real life for a real crisis you know what if obama promised five years ago to start this crisis with don't let me make it worse it has been filibustered by the republicans already

limited is it on your subconscious or is present here by. you know the last night on the american jobs act filibuster he had controlled area both houses of congress for thirteen weeks you know thirteen weeks years on three. until scott brown was sworn into office and then he lost. old congress let. the bottom line is this we want to do something to improve our economy so more americans have jobs and we believe in a social safety net for when you're in dire straits but long term dire straits very yet because of obama long term prosperity requires government really making changes and this president let me let me get him straight and he the reason i have been on i mean it's so bad is because the regulation of obamacare which is what's hurting which doesn't go into effect for a whole year ok that was a little it was doesn't matter as one of the last five has been quote was responsible for the crash has been for the last six years holding you know your

plan for two weeks at a time where even when you have your small business don't you look ahead of what what what it's going to happen to me and i meet demand demand is what drives economies if there are customers out there i'm not going to say gee i think i'm just going to wait. also a product you know it's a whole catch twenty one spiral but we know that small businesses are afraid to go over the employees because of this increase cause days where you can't meet the cost which is why you see that there are companies in america that have forty nine employees which is why you see the skyrocketing workers you know so many workers right now being hard for parents was another way to screw employees i'm telling you is c.e.o. pay is an all time high rich the rich are richer than they have been since nine hundred twenty eight corporate profits are an all time high the top one percent is doing better than they've done since nine hundred twenty eight this is not funny these you know and the and the and the middle class has been wiped out by thirty two years ago i would say i don't see why conservatives aren't celebrating bubonic obama economy it seems to me like that their major donor class the corporations

have got never to be able to go everywhere we want to believe in earned success that that is the key to happiness. now when more people have jobs and i know you are saying why not make the government the employer of last resort because that is a short term fix to try and does not see any child would you rather nobody have jobs or have someone unemployment check and then you're going to have to fire them and then you're going to say oh we can never say yesterday to your job while we build this brand is not yet look at some good reason for you know as we know what happens when government is the employer you have you were damn good pretty good the interstate highway system put millions of people to work i mean i think the government employee of last resort that's actually a long term solution you're ensuring that there's always demand met in the economy by people having secure jobs taking tax dollars from other people from the top from forty percent of that is what is i mean just give it another was pretty damning percent now i mean did you not see the statistics this week that forty percent of income tax forty percent of americans pay over one hundred percent of all income taxes that means they alone fund education in this country find eight percent you

know you can do it so you know exactly it's not thing you know state income tax income look at what income tax talking fun federal look at what's right we will tell you this you know so what. i would do and it's hard our whole department of education the federal government is funded my house is not a sales tax is you get taxed as you get fees you get there's there's all kinds of sources but the point still remains the point still remains that you still have an entire said you know six presume the population that's not paying into the federal coffers so that is sort of the certainly you know that had i also thought some of the every time you buy gas you're paying the federal highway taxes if you if you fly on an airplane you're banned your pay you know you have in there are a law you're going to be realistic about the budget coming up those dollars are from so suddenly because thirty two years of reaganomics has thrown the middle class in of poverty so they're making so little that they're not even paying taxes it's their fault obama was going to change things and he didn't he didn't do

anything and he has rallied his caucus or the republican or of tonight's big picture. politics. well. science technology innovation all the least i'm elements from around russia we've got the future covered. and. i would rather ask questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on r.t. question for.

welcome back with me for tonight's big picture politics panel are here we knew some mates we and chris thanks to all of you for joining us the house and senate negotiators to this conference committee headed up by the senate side patty murray and on the house side paul ryan a democrat and a republican respectively have announced a deal here's their. constant crisis cost us billions of dollars in lost growth and jobs and the continued across the board cuts from sequester ation we're forcing our families and communities to pay the price so i am very proud to stand here today with chairman ryan to announce we have broken through the partisanship and the gridlock and reached a bipartisan budget compromise that will prevent

a government shutdown in january our deal with the deal increases federal spending to one point zero two trillion next year about thirty four billion more than the nine hundred sixty seven billion cappa stablish by the sequester it provides sixty three billion dollars in sequester relief over two years but cuts another twenty five billion by extending a two percent cut to medicare established by the budget control act of two thousand and eleven this is no grand bargain there's no grand bargain in the deal no extension federal unemployment benefits so what do you all think of this year you were looking at these numbers are going to go what's your take i think the way the question is you know the two key questions for me the first one is ok with the supports the cuts where is this where is these extra savings going to come from elsewhere in the budget so that usually the devil's in the details because one of the sticking points for the far right is going to be suppressed or cuts right and whether you can because they're not there i know there's a lot of there's a lot of concern on the right about you know the seaquest ratio and the progress

that was made towards cutting the budget deficit when the sequester was implemented deaf. the deficit is a third of what it was before and part of that was because it was offsets right in the part of this because that's where the now looking at someone like a rand paul who's looking and say is ok i don't know what let me know where we're going to get the extra savings and i'm not sure i'm comfortable with those savings coming down the road as one of his paraphrasing one of his quotes but the question is can you build a coalition that passes and i think that the far left the progressive wing of the democratic party will be will have a lot of heartburn about the fact that unemployment benefits are an extended i think it's back to twenty six we think that's going to supper priscilla maybe maybe in that would be hard to pass the house without without it being separate but at the same time can you build a coalition between you know some you know combine or build a coalition between some centrist democrats since interest republicans to get it

through the house i think in the senate will they have to do it he's going to he's going to have to that's that's going to you know my immediate reaction upon seeing in these is whether or not this was going to be paul ryan's marco rubio moment i think you know marco rubio was the tea party darling for a while for a while over the past two years and it is to a very interviews the immigration bill and suddenly he's you know right now rhino number one and it's interest because paul ryan is very been the guy pushing some of the harshest austerity measures some of the harshest tea party economics over the past three years since you know since the republicans took over the house and took over the house in two thousand and ten but now he's finally the guy making some sort of sort of a deal it's not a great deal it's certainly no progress a deal that i want to put my name on but i'd be interested to see other party response. to paul ryan making sort of the least bad. i'm trying to paraphrase plasterer he said the least dishonest wires up that is the least bad bad deal that well as the tea party supporter i will urge the tea party to look at this

plan before making any decision and to realize what it is it is a compromise. from two parties that have vastly different visions and ideologies about government and so i applaud paul ryan and patty murray for this deal i think this is what you know what happens when you compromise nobody gets one hundred percent of what they want paul ryan said he didn't get everything you want patty murray said she didn't get everything she wants but you know what we need to realize that with the divided government we have to come together splitting it down the middle the same is down the middle that's a good place to start of course i'd like to see more reforms more cuts all those things but hey obama is president the democrats controlled the senate let's be honest people about what we can accomplish in the next year you know if we're cutting some money from the deficit that's a great start if we're coming together and talking and coming up with that ingredient that is

a fantastic start but you know the koch brothers have spoken i mean freedom of the florida has this is a node this is a no deal this is a no go and they're funded a lot of these republican candidates and more importantly they're funding a lot of the primaries of you know what and there's a lot of rich liberals that fund a lot of the far left group they're not as bad as it is every day well every individual citizen and member of congress has to look at this deal and say we have divided government we have to move forward this is a great step one that i didn't think we would even get to and i applaud both sides for coming together and putting something on the table and impressed by your pride which is i think what's what's what i think is important. is that republicans are happy with this deal because it preserves austerity and sequester spending and so i started as a fundamental a component of every single budget negotiation we're going to have over the next two years and that needs to happen guys we have unbelievable debts and deficits we

have to get a handle on those and the best way to do it is start now and just start small and all baby steps to make the. maybe that's just solve the problem that we have ok speaking of expanding the social safety net massachusetts senator elizabeth warren has reignited the debate about the core values of the democratic party with their proposal to expand social security proposal party popular the party's left and for that matter among most americans as outrage so-called moderate democrats the center left group third way recently wrote an editorial the wall street journal attacking warren's plan and its co-founder jim kessler on friday said that warren is getting out and kessler and other so-called centrist democrats are terrified because they know the progressives like warren are becoming more and more powerful within the democratic party in my opinion threatening the likelihood of a killer clinton presidency warner said she's not going to run for president but. you know i mean barack obama at this point this number of months out was saying the

same thing i think we can all see the handwriting on the wall. your thoughts or those around you and i think you i think you hit will do so security and second but i think you hit the nail on the head elizabeth warren says she has a robin washington d.c. from massachusetts has really shown that she's going to be the leader of the progressive wing of the democratic party and make it you know make it powerful to make sure that it is at the bargaining table again so you know she continues to get . ted kennedy's medal yes yes yes i think she sees herself in that role going forward and i do believe she will strongly consider running i don't think that is out of the question at all i don't know if she can beat hillary clinton but that's another discussion but you know talking about social security you know politically speaking getting something through congress that's going to expand benefits you know look at the phasing out of the cuts looking at the whole idea of taking the you know the wages past the things one hundred seven thousand one hundred three

thousand and we continue to tax so skewed past that think that's going to be staying in all she is proposing is a flat tax you know. i mean republicans are all running around the only one still has actually really flat tax ok well they do have a conservative back back on again remember so security was not was not supposed to be a redistributive redistributionist policy it wasn't meant to be that so as you're saying now it was only a third of the security benefits are going to. or if it's in disabled people that are reduced it will the wealthy the thinking behind security was the government would take a certain amount of your money on your behalf and pay it back to you in as time goes on and some of this is a not a four hundred one k. yes that was me that was original intent that was the original intent and as you pay out you get what you put in no you don't average you know you don't i mean the way pensions work is you you are guaranteed a certain amount some people die early some don't but that amount gets paid out it's right but it's not a strict rigid redistributions policy where i'm going to put in you know twenty

million i'm going to put in twenty thousand and i'm going to get one hundred thousand down the road that was just. own average which you're going to see is that people are going to all good why isn't that the why is it that warren buffett or the koch brothers should pay a fraction of what they think they're out of it of their income when they get out there get the steps that have been anybody else means necessary let's turn it into what it really is so you're finally meet politically weaken it so republicans can then you know as i mean i'm just going to turn into a wall for why should the koch brothers get social security you said there bill you know everybody's in that's why they should that's why they should actually make. money at all they're in a you're talking about a redistribution policy if we're going to do that let's just say that the original intent as it was written in the social passed on the if let's say that idea did not did not work because now you're saying this is me to say anything you want under say and i think it's crazy to somebody themselves have an aging of the

american population i mean social security says and this is from their website due to demographic changes the u.s. social. security system will face financial challenges in the near future because of the aging population we're going to go from three point three workers in two thousand and five to two point one workers in twenty forty and this is quote the year in which the social security trust fund is projected to be exhausted and we all know that there is no social security trust fund that is a fiction and it simply doesn't have to be you took that out of wildly out of context i know i said regular first paragraph i know but let me let me provide the context back in one thousand nine hundred two when ronald reagan commissioned pat moynihan and alan greenspan to look at this there was no security trust fund there had never been a so security trust fund all in one thousand nine hundred two and from one thirty five to ninety two all of the retired people one hundred percent of the money that went out was one hundred percent of the money that was coming in from people who

were working so the working generation was paying for the retirement of the retired people they looked at that and they said you know what's going to happen with all these baby boomers when they start retiring around you know in the twenty first century they're going to break the system because you're going to go from three or four workers per person retiree person now that there is no trust so no let me finish so for the first time in history we're going to have just one generation double pay the boomers are not going to pay for their parents' retirement but they're also going to put money in a savings account for their own retirement so just the baby boom generation is going to double pay and so reagan doubled the social security tax you'll recall it was always you know only working people were having their taxes doubled at the same time that regular taxes were being cut and so of course the so scared trust fund is supposed to go away it's supposed to go away when the last of the boomers die it was intended to work that way and of course you're going to have those ratios change but how do you have two point one workers pay for all the retirees when they've two point seven trillion dollars in

a trust fund there's two point zero really i always you know understand how that is you know there is not all my goodness truth i worked on capitol hill i worked on this very issue they got. it is not allowed to take in money and not spend it they spend it they took the money out of the trust fund quote unquote trust fund spent on other programs and put ious in and then happen based on how you act with money that they borrow from china they don't ious are called treasuries they're not are not you know there is nothing there to day are george bush waved him around to be here he won when he was being dishonest as well there is there is no trust fund there i mean that is just a figure out in that everyone has to get a handle on where we're flat on its i mean we need chris thank you all for. coming up every other developed country in the world has figured out what universal health care that universal health care is a fundamental human right so why haven't we the answer for.

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but i suspect. we're going to go did you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioning the constitution because of time that's because a free and open prize is critical to our democracy should recall books. go on. never go on i'm sorry and on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going going on we go beyond identifying the problem to try to rational debate and

a real discussion critical issues facing america have my number of them ready to join the movement then welcome the they've heard. more about the big picture i'm tom arbonne coming up in this half hour nelson mandela fought for many things during his life that health care for all human beings regardless of wealth or status was one of the issues he was most passionate about what needs to be done to make mandela's dream of universal health care a reality here in the united states and right now millions of americans are courageously fighting illnesses and diseases that may ultimately take their laws rather than wait around for doubt pain and suffering a tumbler that should these people have the option to end their lives in their own terms.

in the best the rest of the. news today current and former leaders from across the globe gathered in johannesburg south africa for a memorial service honoring the life and legacy of nelson mandela and part of mandela's legacy that's being honored is his undying support for universal health care in fact thanks to mandela the south african constitution reads everyone has the right to have access to health care services including reproductive health care the state must take reasonable legislative and other measures within its available resources to achieve the progressive realisation of each of these rights as john nichols points out in his latest piece for the nation and hard for a broader human rights in south africa and in south africa and gaza to sion was ratified in one thousand nine hundred six he said that the new constitution old blige is to strive to improve the quality of of life.