larry king now the. world renowned spiritual teacher and his son andi products latest book god in the peace today is dismantling the idea although the human being some dead weight made in the sky i mean nobody believes that god anymore pandavas revealing documentary about his father i think that humanizing of him will hopefully make his message that much more powerful plus did you grow up inside of a prince you know that's next on larry king now. well going to another edition of larry king now tonight deepak chopra the new york times

best selling author considered to be one of the manston teaches of eastern philosophy in the western world also found of the chill percent of full well being his newest book is god a story of revelation it's an exploration of the evolution of god is a novel and drop them chokers with a deep dark sun the author and filmmaker his new film a documentary about his dad called decoding the box which is playing in select theaters around the country it's also available on demand for talk about the book how did you come to do this for. why for years i've been watching him on your show and this image of him out there to the world versus the guy sort of thought i knew i wanted to reconcile those two things i've been fascinated by that you follow them around follow them around for a year most much to his occasional frustration but it was eyeopening and as much as i think the movie is about him a kind of became about. me i'll get to that know well are you angry at him over

doing. because he reveals things i mean there are things about you we have but that's normal and you're human we found out you know you were in deep yeah but larry everybody is an actually if you hide behind a social must get real. force about what you've done more than fifty books garder novels a story a revelation i want to give me the plot the plot began when i came across a story from nineteen thirty in the new york times and it was a meeting between interest in and the indian poetry loss for mystic girl who i grew up with sort of you know reading is pretty nineteenth early to meet in a place called potsdam. close to german in germany of being as well as the parse them conference so they meet and they have a discussion and you know this case is it was emerging the nazis merging this dog

of war and these two guys a dog came but the mystery of our existence and instead is known for a very famous quote i want to know how god thinks everything else is a detail so. to go or have a very interesting discussion where the universe exists whether we are there or not and to go or objects to that he says the universe that we experience is an entirely human universe because lately we're going into a novel because it's actually what is called a historical fiction so the facts are all straight or they are all absolutely they can have the dialogue right the fact about god is they're well known but the fact is that the universe has a source whatever you want to call it ok you can call it nothing you can call it god you can call it the unified field you can call it the womb. creation is the

source and that source is also the source of space energy information and matter this world that we experience. did you grow up inside the matrix teachings of you yeah i mean i think i'm the product of it it's but you know in my world and in the film really is there are no rigid laws i mean despite the fact that he's written all these books you know we didn't grow up with this sort of rigid idea of a way of life. we grew up around this sort of philosophy which early in my life was in some ways very hard to grasp and there's certain times still hard to grasp but i think that there's a few core principles i've taken away and that have had profound effect which is that thing he starred in but the mystery of the universe and to be perpetually surprised by our you believe really faith in those you know fluent spoil for it's

this book for example starts with a job in the old testament who's tested by god. the question why do good people suffer. then moves to socrates those who know if you don't go you know god then moves to sin pause who has this vision of christ the lady of the you to lose you know a new christ and it goes leg that through me through some christian since ultimately ending up with science and the ministry of awareness see larry first is a universe but then there is us who are aware that is the universe if we didn't have that awareness than for all practical purposes there is no universe so that a bigger mystery of what is awareness where does it come from is our perception of the wood the wood bridge really is you know if a mosquito was looking at you in a dolphin and the giraffe. on an igloo did three different versions of you. so

which one is the real one you know perception is misleading as william blake said we are led to believe a lie when we see with not through the eye that was born in the night to perdition in the night those leptin beams of atheists than just the. peace to come in the east today is dismantling the idea. judge and all still a human being some dead weight in the sky i mean nobody believes god anymore but the fact is nobody should. do they do but you know the believing in the mythology but the fact is the big question is is this an accident and if this is an accident how come the accident created a nervous system that could not go back and look at the black hole of creation thirteen point eight billion years ago what do you think it is. what i think we can

actually do and no i think there is a grand design to it all i think you know it as a designer has to be a designer but there it would be math martin magically improbable for i mean if you look at the origins of the universe and statistically there has to be a reason why we're here and i'm a believer in that sense prevnar i've never grown up with faith necessarily i don't fall back on that i think that the law is that you don't pray to anyone you know i think that is a he says he said it before it's a cover up for insecurity if you have to sort of just give yourself over your belief system to something that doesn't align with modern cosmology and science as we know it then there's something wrong with that either the laws of nature are precise to the nth decimal point if they were a myth you know do a little different we wouldn't be here so the question that we have to us kitties is so precise. what their laws. why do they exist why we're

ordering them why we've all been lowered our way to do what is noble and was who's who came up with the exactly we're talking about the book god and about saddam's documentary decoding the part will get to a bit of that but more on the god questions the number one question that everyone asks one would think is what happens when we die and you can say you know because no one no. we go to the same place no wait as you're talking to people who are it is almost like mission go inside intuition inspiration so that's the source of wellbeing and when the transcend in meditation beyond what i call the subject object split go beyond the main in the field of silence that's the window to your soul which is the connection to the infinite mind so you basically incubate and then you recycle. how do you know that because

everything restate the matter is they cause energy because information received. yeah but reincarnate in the sense that the core consciousness which is your memories and your desire is in eastern traditions because karma that exist as seed form you can have two identical twins and you see they have different personalities where do those personalities come from who do you fear death i don't know at all no in fact ever in the thin gotham's move move into a monastery in violent just to confront death to meditate or push the dead and the impermanence of life every day so you could be comfortable with that and you come to that. five year old son and i'm comfortable. i guess i'm attached you know in a way that he's not i'm attached to my five year old son you know and that he's not

attached to you it's in the he's not and i asked him that question in another. room i love a lot but it's none of his business which means. in his loving me to. explain that. issues really love somebody you know to them you could only love them if you're detached because when you're detached you do want a route to their own home but you do it do you own your son. very well when they're five you have very emotionally attached to my my son but that will end when he's twenty and twenty five some of the number you know i'm glad in a way i made this movie when i did because i think i have a different perspective at this stage of my life as a parent than i may have ten years ago when i wouldn't have been able to appreciate a lot of what my father is a complex his audience its connection to his audience that i do know you proud of

him very much why did you allow the film. he thought he should do what he wants he wanted to do it but he's invading your privacy and he absolutely follow you follow what you know you tell me the methadone what you do. turn cameras on for almost a year i followed him to thailand it was the only enduring i couldn't escape the camera you know one of the narrator you know i'm also in front of the camera a lot because i actually i discovered as i was making it you know what makes my father great many ways as as a personality as a philosopher it's better that he doesn't have these dramatic arcs for the sake of the cinema that's terrible so i had to sort of put myself in front of the camera to have something to react off because a lot of people are talking about the you show him meditating but he also falls asleep and that is regarded as a weakness just wants to meditate you don't fall asleep you know my father this expression larry says if i point to the moon worship the moon not the finger and

you know i think the fact that i have humanized him yes in this film i like to think it makes his message and the fact that he's still asking questions and as i'm listening to this conversation way i think you are a very spiritual person even do you think yourself to be your astonished. you know spiritually does the is the most spiritual feeling we can have to be constantly astonished and surprised that we exist you know it's a highly statistically highly unlikely event why do we exist. and why do we exist why do we know where they go low in the movie i take him to a place where we had records of what and says ok. whoa you go back he said three hundred b.c.

before christ with miserable xander that you. we did some rough guide solutions is very sobering for him in the movie because. tens of millions of people who lived loved and died so we could have this conversation and one of them was missing in one of them was not in the mood didn't have a gleam in the correct we wouldn't be here and where are they all now all. did all they were all on this earth. plane to make in the book what is perceptual this what we see to stay since well that's just a projection of a deeper so you don't believe the statement perception is reality no perception perceive it it's real to me if you perceive it it's actually a temporary experience what makes you perceive that which makes you perceive is who you are perception is it species specific experience could be cause physical reality the perception of a scooter that

a bad to nematode is different so which one is real ok the fact is the only thing that makes perception possible is a feel little awareness let me try to explain that a little bit if you don't mind let me take a break come right back i'll be right back don't go away we'll be back with a child for a. boy. or a. very hard to take. that. number.

lead . the. de bar job earned them to operate you're making what is electricity in this

microphone there's electricity in that light bulb does the electricity in your black wheel eyeful and we really see it you get it but it's the same electricity rate right it has a different appearance rate here like that there's a single consciousness or spirit than man if this is these individual perceptual realities you are not the one who pushed cvs your deal when this in which perception happens just lake when i watch a television program with larry king logo and hulu. the picture is there but larry somewhere else so you know rumi the groups of people it is this is not the real reality in truth we are not here this is shadow jesus graces this is not rare moment in this world but not of it so our real identity is we are spiritual beings having a human experience this is what the great dish i did said so do not confuse

yourself with your human experience you are a spiritual being having an employment and. human experience what was it like growing up with him. you know first of all my father was a classic sort of immigrant i mean he came to this country with nothing and he built a life through a lot of hard work and before all this sort of celebrity philosophy stuff he was a practicing physician up until i was a teenager and i actually you are a medical doctor i don't i have very much just sits and california i don't have many memories because he was always you know working an extra shift at the emergency room and stuff like that it was only when i got into teens that all this other stuff started picking up and hey it was a circus in its own way i mean we've talked about it but you know michael jackson came to my house to have dinner when i was fifteen years old and that's when i knew something crazy was happening have you ever been called upon later in life to usual medicine like help

a person in distress have you know you all the time and actually still do it. you could set a bone broken bone you know well i could stitch up people i could do surgery he was removed mostly he always had the sort of detached from loss of favorite you talked about and yeah i mean he wasn't the guy who learned how to play catch where there went to red sox games where got them says not having taken them to the red sox three and he called the child abuse. and what do you call it do you have any regrets you think you should have taken him do so much you know his mother was so good. way for being such a. compensated for whatever it was like why didn't you want to take him to a game in the beginning by the way i was just working my tail off i used to get paid four dollars an hour in the emergency room two hundred two does every two weeks will miss the we could hardly pay the rent so those days had to go to

school he going to a boys' school belmont to go to include klunker to me he went to columbia she went to brown it was expensive educations and it could be argued that taking meter at sox game then would qualify as child because. it was neat but you both agree that this is it and i think again i have. because of how hard my father worked we we bore the fruits of that labor and you have gone to great schools gone to ivy league schools all of that do you think fans admirers of your father will have some disappointment members film i think the there's always going to be different response lucio floor and i think you will see but i think that humanizing of him will hopefully make his message that much more powerful but yeah i expect that some people who again worship their their image of him. might have it is

a common phenomenon we create images of people who are celebrities or in the public sooner or later the images differ and we get enraged at the person they said the other said we want by and large people appreciate i mean so far just in some of the informal screenings and festivals really good response and also because it's not just a movie about deep october and celebrity and getting behind the curtain it's a it's about people it's about the questions we're asking and the things we're wondering about and it's about fathers and sons and families and i think there's a very familiar element to the to the movie do you get distress do you have emotional pain. i get restless about the fact that. the war of the terrorism the eco destruction the social injustice radical poverty those things bother me a lot worse than things actually don't bother me

a friend is late to pick you up you don't get mad no move it's nothing it's such a minor thing i'm thinking about black holes and different dimensions of space and why would anybody foot per person as late to pick me up it doesn't bother me at all and if i miss of late i usually start to write a book or something like lama candidate like for example mitt romney doesn't discuss his faith should he have to i don't think so i think we should keep the two separate on the other hand we should also nor would people think that a lot of people right know in our political right who don't believe in evolution who discount warming discone a lot of science and i think that's distressing to me you think. you know i went to high school with josh romney one of. you know yeah and i remember josh very fond they were phrases are going to. rick i so you know i think family is great i

couldn't disagree more with their politics but yeah i think it's important to have a understanding of basic faith but i don't think it should complicate you know the greater need for this country where we get a lot of people social media want to get at facebook jason depair assess if god were in this room when you had one question what would it be the way create the universe. michael holmes as how do you reconcile faith and science why i don't recognize belief in science i think belief is a cover up for insecurity you only believe in things that you're not sure what but faith is the willingness to step into the unknown and that in fact is the basis of science well said gate on facebook i'd like to know where he believes spirits go after death you believe something leaves your body i think the body leaves the spirit. the spirit is always there just like if this room was destroyed nothing

would happen to the space but the room would lose its appearance so the spirit doesn't leave the body moves. making sense you know the source the source never goes in the woods just stops they do say what happens to the movie when the television set is destroyed nothing opens it's still there. maggie see me on facebook wants to know if you believe karma is god's justice no karma is a good line of. koma is just the consequence of our actions every action has a consequence in the few make choices says that our conscious and you create what is called good move has nothing to do with god only florrie's as has done them ever challenge departs beliefs of the every day. scenario jones among you know what you were talking about before which is you know how do we take this

philosophy and really when the rubber hits the road what's happening in syria what's happening in this country tara conner me how do you take this great wisdom but make it relevant that's what i struggle with in the movie a lot of times struggled with it my whole life and so by the way to that is very simple was the problems all our problems come from the hallucination of the fragmented and separate mind if we really had the experience that is only one mind and we are part of it is only one ocean and all lou is a part of it then we would solve these problems through compassion love getting and justice bob wants to know what's the most important life lesson you've learned to take yourself too seriously agree same thing for me yeah that's a good one and on twitter ms c.j. right there is how do you believe in god. at all when you see scientific back and hurricanes katrina holocausts how do you believe when you see in

human heart is not a person god is infinite fee's of oz a lot of really wouldn't believe it ok you know when you believe in what is it to believe in our side down as it got be good to be and the kill so what is infinite mind it contains everything the divine and the diabolical the sinner and the saint forbidden lust and unconditional love they're all different aspects of the one mind red sox and yankees fans where you make the rules that society has their rules don't you think i think for society to operate they have to be rules but these rules actually derive from what is called platonic truth so the religious experience was always one of inseparability and that's where the golden rule comes from do unto others as you would have them do unto you because the other is an aspect of yourself. your opinion very little because the ve

been in trouble right now because we have not. psychologically and spiritually and we have weapons making a death at the same time it's a very dangerous combination modern capacities and ancient tribal habits. from the earth. or we do was and more weapons this is crazy. with killing. reptilian brain that's about three hundred million years old an emotional brain that's hundred million years old and a rational brain that's four million years old so when it comes to crises very resort to that if trillion and emotional brain and never to the logical and rational never dull. book. you could look for me. on larry king now.

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of a. lot of growers i'm adding martin and this is breaking the set did you hear yes or the people want to huge victory against big banks and the bank regulators signed off on the volcker rule a measure that would prohibit commercial banks from engaging in proprietary trading what this means in layman's terms about banks can no longer use people's deposits for many types of risky investments which in part is what's led us to the two thousand and eight financial collapse but don't pop the champagne bottles just yet as we can expect a government sponsored by wall street to not sweeten the deal with some nice perks for the banks stirred. see under the volcker rule banks will still be able to hide

behind something called market making which is when a bank buys and sells securities like stocks and bonds on behalf of clients the rule as it's written now leaves an enormous gray area in determining what is proprietary trading and what's market market making rather furthermore one of the most egregious parts of the law makes banks managers themselves responsible for testing but their banks are complying with the rules absolutely genius because banks policing themselves worked out so well for the american people back in two thousand and eight so while i applaud the attempt at reform here let's not forget that we're living in a corporatocracy and as long as corporations ultimately dictate these laws i'll be breaking the set. it was. very hard to take that. i never had sex with their.