well. there are you know i'm sorry and on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going on we go beyond identifying the trans national debate real discussion critical issues facing america ready to join the movement then welcome to the big three. go back to the big picture tom arbonne here with you coming up in this half hour senate and house negotiators have reached a deal to fund the government for the next two years that offers billions in sequester relief that raises no new taxes so why should progressives see the budget deal more on that just all and republicans are always talking about giving the american people back their tax money it turns out they don't actually care about making good on their own talking points when it doesn't serve their political purposes explained surprised.

in the best of the rest of the news we have a budget deal maybe yesterday afternoon washington senator patty murray murray and wisconsin congressman paul ryan announced that they had reached a compromise over to your plan to fund the federal government at a press conference at the capitol building senator murray described her enthusiasm for what she called a bipartisan deal. the constant crisis cost us billions of dollars in lost growth and jobs and the continued across the board cuts from sequester ation we're forcing our families and communities to pay the price so i am very proud to stand here today with chairman ryan to announce we have broken through the partisanship and the gridlock and reached a bipartisan budget compromise that will prevent a government shutdown in january the murray ryan budget deal sets federal spending

at one point zero one two trillion next year and one point zero one four trillion the year after that includes sixty three billion dollars worth of sequester relief but at the same time it does nothing to repeal the sequester as a whole and preserves most of its cuts and while the murray ryan budget plan does call for new revenue it doesn't call for that revenue as taxes only things like higher airline travelers fees and increased pension contributions from federal workers it also doesn't extend long term federal unemployment benefits which are scheduled to expire right after christmas so while the marie ryan plan avoids deep cuts to the social safety net it's nothing to write home about a nice break from washington gridlock sure but hardly something for anyone to celebrate course there's always the possibility that it won't pass the republican controlled house of representatives in that case it's back to square one and the bludgeon of the sequester joining me now for more on this deal as well as what it

means for federal workers are ben cohen editor of the daily banter and founder of banner media group and marilyn park attorney and legislative representative for the american federation of government employees. thank you both for joining me first i'm just curious your general overview of this deal i described it as as better than something that's not as good you know it's the least awful but. i'm really ambivalent about it in your your thoughts i mean from a practical point of view it's a do it's the government shutdown. from the heart of all digital one of you it's come from the left it's terrible it's all for women it's an all for do the new taxes on the rich it's a good they're all types is it working people all the good. it's going to fight this is what paul says is bought all this and do. i don't really hold out much hope for the future it's it's we're still in austerity here you know yes we are using your stereo approach instead of going after other loopholes that we could go after

and we are once again heating up federal employees they already paid a heavy price last year in many ways and this budget continues to make them pay more for retirement more for health care and we can't accept that employees once again paying such a large share towards this solution this is crazy i mean i fly a for about five dollars on an airplane ticket is not going to break the bank but five dollars on an airplane ticket is not my retirement and it's not like health care so what is the impact of this going to be federal employees if this deal is passed and why do you think that they picked federal employees seems to be the place where they go again and again to take money away even though we're only two million people out of three hundred million people in this country and when there are so many other ways government waste could be used in sourcing but let me give you some really examine of the kinds of people who are going to be hurt by this

every day i represent. over two hundred thousand people who work at the department of veterans affairs were turkic talking nursing. assistants who work in long term care facilities we're talking people who lay the headstones in v.a. cemeteries people who sweep the snow away from the building so veterans can get there. and these people make already under thirty thousand a year and this is a direct hit on their paycheck because they if the new employees are now going to have to pay one point three percent more towards their retirement. these are people barely getting by now how are they supposed to set aside money towards the thrift savings plans that they have additional savings which is what this country keeps telling people to do to supplement their retirement they won't be able to do it i mean i think it's it's imports a look at this is the kind of the broader war on working people and federal government because it's very easy to pick on them overseas now the government the big bad government and people who are for the government. by virtue of being

affiliated with barack obama must be on of mooches. take. benefits from the government. and he's really the last bastion of working americans who actually have some kind of protection in that job i mean unions have been demolished in america over the past seven decades with you because of an oil. if you compare union activity in america to a country like even like britain which is always out its unions been right thank you rose yeah exactly. this is really the last group of workers that have any kind of protection over their lives and over their employment whether they get to feed their family i can tell you though the right wing radio all day today the drumbeat was and i and i and i know this because i do a three hour radio show and i get the calls from people who are you know channel surfing and they're they're they're echoing the means and you know. one of the memes that was repeated over and over and over again is these government workers

they're overpaid compare you know big dollars doesn't pay like that you know mcdonald's pay the third of that and wal-mart doesn't pay like that govern workers should be able to work like wal-mart workers marilyn why this. how do you actually i even wonder how do you guys get away with promoting the idea that we should take the last workers in america arguably not really but you know that's the last large chunk of workers in america who are still able to hang on by their fingernails to the lower edge of the middle class and shove them. in the working poor like we've done with pretty much everybody else why how could you possibly justify this insane race to the bottom why are people not instead saying you know everybody in america should be making at least what government workers make i mean you know when i was growing up as a kid the government job was not that good a job you made more money in the private sector but at least you had job security and people would trade off job security for a lower paycheck. forgive me my rant let me turn it over now i agree why are we

always comparing to the bottom why are we comparing to the people who lost their pensions country only about forty percent of people the private sector have a pension now why do we want to send federal employees down that same road and why do we want congress to set that as a model for the way we run our workforce remember these are the same people who go into prisons every day and risk their lives who are on border patrol who are military bases guarding military bases and of course people who are and walter reed in v.a. hospitals around the country and other military hospitals taking care of wounded warriors so why is it we want them to be grovelling as a race to the bottom there are also the people who run the area. just in the way you did but he's been framed as well it's a very it's kind of reminiscent of the way the colonial powers would. which basically kind of china. where you divide working people and you you make sure that people in the private sector are now jealous of people wouldn't be in the state

sector and you get them to fight each other and then you can have my say this isn't . these federal workers getting all these nice benefits where nobody else does the arguments can be completely flipped from what it should be the argument should be as you rightly say that while working people want people in private companies making more federal workers making that should be the argument it said the script is the reverse and it's divide and conquer. the reason we need to repeal the budget control act and this decreased ration and this austerity program. it's because we're pick pick pitting federal employees against the very programs they have taken an oath to serve and what the right doesn't want to say is that half of many of these agencies are staffed by their parents themselves who came into the federal government through a hiring program and who are disabled veterans so we're pitting them against the very programs that they have dedicated themselves to serving but what are you going to the race to the bottom in terms of quality i mean it's going to be terrible i

mean if you pay people and you don't know how they don't have benefits and the drugs are not going to be motivated to do a particularly good job i mean i'm sure everybody works pretty hard you know as a federal employee. but you start taking away that benefit it's not exactly a motivating force to go out and why have i actually had a republican strategist on this program day before yesterday who said that people would not be motivated to get out of work unless there was no on employment benefits no food stamps no section on housing no safety net at all but all that stuff should be done away with so that people are literally facing freezing cold numb freezing cold hunger starvation the basically that's well let me let me finish that motivates working class people but on the other hand. is all in one sentence but it was within the whole debate on the other hand the the rich. in order to motivate them you've got to make sure they can make the extra few billion dollars i

mean you can't put a seventy four percent you roll back the reagan tax cuts and go back to a seventy four percent top marginal tax rate after three million dollars of income because after he's made his first three million bill gates might not be motivated any more and he might not create jobs you people are well paid originally this deal was going to allow contractors for the federal government to get reimbursed at over nine hundred thousand dollars a year salary and one of the few positive things about this deal is that it's down to four fifty seven but that still means person yes that still means that a contractor can get reimbursed for annual salary of pointed fifty seven thousand when our president only makes four hundred thousand and federal employee payscale tops out at one hundred fifty five so we're going to keep fighting to lower that contract's cap right i mean that's crazy they're not they're not going to work every day freezing and starving watering so so ben do you think that this thing is going to pass the house. the banner is really put he's taking his range

a shift if you mean if you look at the poll to you the heritage foundation would be concerned about this know how could we do. i would imagine i would imagine it would cost because i think he's before. he's going to bring democrats in and he's going to blow up the hastert rule or the boehner variation of that i think you're going to have to because. i don't see it offering the political ramifications that they saw what happened off on well let's hope after the i mean we've we are just we still have eleven months but you know there's an election coming up but things may change so marilyn. thank you so much for being with us thank you. coming up if republicans really believe their own talk about taxes they accept the obamacare medicaid expansion i'll explain why in tonight's do we take.

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a movie is playing out in real life. what about to the big picture remember jimmy mcmillan if you don't this clip should help jog your memory. i represent the richest to damn high party people we're going to. women can afford to take care of the children to be the children brought to. my main job but about a roof over your head. this is politics as usual playing the silly game which is not going to happen the movement of people. to pay their rent. jimmy created something of a media circus when he ran for governor of new york back in two thousand and ten. but it turns out he was right there at is too damn high or at the very least access to affordable housing is too damn well right now cost americans

a bigger percentage of their income that any time in recent memory when you think progress breakdown of a harvard university study the share of renters who pay more than thirty percent of what they make on housing or what the study labels cost burden rose twelve percentage points last decade reaching fifty percent in two thousand and ten initial estimates show there were a record twenty one point one million renters who are cost burden in two thousand and twelve so what can be done to decrease rent costs in the us i'll let you know what is the solution to my body here to produce a lucid the red is continuously proud of what can we do to help people save in college to work in a prison a sure way of college tuition the president can waive the american people because of what he did all of these problems come from one point we can't count in america there is no deficit there is no perfectly there is no sequester all because the president can't count we found seven point five to six trillion dollars that the

united states the popular trigger money that is sitting there if americans can count it what they would it would be a much different story on how to resolve the problem the people suffering you go to work your work eight hours a day for how do we got a third job when you pay your rent you can. talk about schools and education who is going to be central classroom if the parents are getting picked up a little bit home to focus we have a problem suited elected officials need to step up we have a failed democratic system in this country and need to be corrected. crazy alert ashanti ad fascism tila tequila is best known as the buxom star of m.t.v.'s reality show a shot at will and that shows sixteen men and sixteen women competing for the romantic attentions of tequila who is bisexual who's racy dialogue and suggestive

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think that if public buildings are allowed to display religious symbols at all they should display the symbols of all religious not just christianity oklahoma's religious conservatives naturally disagree which just goes to show how it was that point of view was to begin with good on the hindus for helping point out the bad bryan fischer not everyone is so happy about what's going on at the oklahoma state house to share the director of public policy with the american family association took to the airwaves tuesday to bash the satanists campaign and to clear the air about which religion the first amendment really protects. but the point is by religion the founders were thinking of christianity so the purpose was to protect the free exercise of the christian faith it wasn't about protecting in the thing else there was no way they were providing any cover or shelter for the free exercise. or even judaism or even atheism they were brian is just plain wrong

those were not the christian fundamentalists he thinks they were jefferson themself is extremely skeptical of all religions especially christianity in fact is a growing body of evidence that jefferson's reading of the koran the islamic holy book helped him to develop some of his ideas religious freedom so yes the first amendment does protect people who are not christian except for still having this debate in twenty thirty and the very very ugly greg they are. barrier reef is one of the world's true natural resources and treasures it could be seen from space it is known around the globe as a symbol of australia's biological diversity but australia's environmental minister greg hunt doesn't seem to care is just ok to deal with india's adani group to expand an existing cold port on the coast near the barrier reef expansion will make the port which is located in point one of the largest in the world but while

haunting the australian government are defending the move as job creation the world wildlife fund and us coast say it could permanently damage the reef which is already in poor condition it appears yet another world wonders about the fall prey to the fossil fuel industry and that is for. republicans love to say that their party is the party is going to give you back your tax dollars and name is the memory again used when he slashed income taxes for the rich it's how george w. bush sold his own massive tax cuts for the rich and it's how republicans today continue describe their party's policies the way they put it liberals in washington want to take your money but conservatives are responsible and give the american

people back money that otherwise would have been waste. but it's becoming increasingly clear that republicans don't actually follow their own talking points when it doesn't serve their political purposes and you don't need to look any farther than the rejection of obamacare is medicaid expansion by twenty five republican governors to see that. the idea behind obamacare is medicaid expansion is pretty simple states that accept the expansion allow. people earning as much as one hundred thirty eight percent of the poverty line to enroll in medicaid free health insurance in exchange the federal government pays one hundred percent of the cost of their health care for three years and ninety let me repeat ninety percent of that cost every year after that for when obamacare was first passed states actually had to accept the medicare expansion or else they'd lose all medicaid funding whatsoever but the john roberts supreme court stepped in and gave republican governors the right to reject just the expansion and republican

governors of course followed republican john roberts is decision right to a t. . there have been a few exceptions a growing number mostly recently most recently ohio governor john case and have come to their senses and okayed the medicaid expansion but twenty five republican governors have yet to do so those twenty five republican governors have to put it bluntly screwed the people who put them into office the people who would get health care under the medicaid expansion are too poor to qualify for subsidies on the obamacare exchanges and too wealthy to qualify for medicaid without the expansion it's an estimated five million people who are now caught in this awful health care coverage gap thing. republican governors say they're worried about the cost of medicaid expansion but since that expansion will be covered almost entirely by the federal government they're just flat out lying. this is really all about damaging the obama presidency. since the days of barack obama took office the republican

party has made taking down his presidency its number one goal so there's no question that those twenty five republican governors have done this to sabotage president obama and his signature piece of legislation before bill care act as leaders bout of right wing sabotage is especially cynical when you consider the fact that those twenty five republican governors are essentially denying the people of their own states the right to use their own tax dollars medicaid like every other government program is paid for with tax dollars. tax dollars that come from people like you and me and then you know make it's way to pay for medicaid states put forth a part of the bill but in the poorest states the federal government covers most of the cost would be expansion would cover one hundred percent of it uses taxpayer money to pay for health care coverage in the states the medicaid expansion works pretty much the same way the money used to pay for the expansion comes from federal money money that you and me and taxpayers send to washington d.c.

in the form of taxes. so rick perry tells the people of texas that he's not going to accept money from the federal government to pay for the expansion of medicaid what he's really saying to his own people people in texas is now you can't have your own tax dollars back he's saying no you cannot have your money back because sabotaging the president is more important than letting you have affordable health care and what's worse the people who live in states that are accepting the medicaid expansion. still have to pay the taxes to foot the bill for the expansion other states. if that sounds petty it's because it is petty. by rejecting obamacare is medicaid expansion twenty five republican governors have put politics above people they denied the people who voted them into office the right to have their own tax dollars spent. if people understood this they'd be outraged

but luckily for those twenty five republican governors they get to rely on fox so-called news and right wing radio spread of lies about obamacare to make the residents of their state forget who are the real bad guys. and those bad guys or the twenty five republican governors who are refusing to give the people of their own states their own tax dollars back in the form of medicaid. time for those governors to give up the game let their people have medicaid after all their people already paid for. and that's the way it is tonight wednesday december eleventh two thousand and thirteen and don't forget democracy begins with you get out there get active tag your.

life thing all things considered the criticism of mandela. on the part of many to sit around for and franchise of africans is that a lot of the problems that germany was talking about have not gone away the income inequality has increased. racial segregation is not the law but it is the facto president would mandela deny you this i rather suspect that he would not that's a very sensitive issue i have noticed that western mainstream media absolutely doesn't want to talk about that but that is an issue in post apartheid south that i think is great legacy is not so much on the economy because as we've been saying this to the last to be desired there and in some respects it's even got worse but at the end of the one nine hundred eighty s.

when apartheid was at its very worst very few people ever thought they could be a peaceful transition and i think what he has done at the expense of the economy perhaps was that he has brought about a degree of reconciliation and i think that is his great contribution to south africa. the i'm a celebrity take the i'm very hard to take out a let's get along here there's a plot that never had sex with her that there's no lives let alone. lifts le

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