tv [untitled] December 13, 2013 3:00pm-3:31pm EST
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ukraine's president says any told some a deal with the e.u. must involve russia that says the prolonged approach european rallies are continuing to disrupt the government and worsening the already crippled economy. honeymoon is over various high court overturns the country's first law allowing same sex marriages in less than a week. we've been married and we've been on marriage meanwhile india is reinstated gets back on same sex relationships while people in croatia vote in a referendum for good look at setbacks for gay rights in different countries. also this hour one hundred twenty kurdish civilians are reportedly abducted by rebels in syria near the country's border with turkey on top stories this hour.
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live from a studio center here in moscow where it's midnight this is international ukraine's president chavez refuted from the opposition to dismiss the government at roundtable talks in kiev now that calls from the european parliament for a snap election to appease the crisis he's pulled scot as the details now from kiev . president viktor yanukovych had a round table meeting today with opposition leaders three of the opposition leaders and the announcements come after that discussion where the opposition reiterated a number of their demands including a snap election now the president has refused to dissolve government but he has made a number of concessions including an amnesty on all protesters who have been arrested
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throughout the course of these demonstrations and he also says the authorities will not use force on these protesters around me was the implications on any possible a huge deal of being asked by the government now he has promised that there is no alternative to close the e.u. integration but does say for this to happen that they'll need close cooperation from russia now as you can see around me the protesters remain defiant as ever as we head into the course of the weekend and over the weekend we are expecting numbers here at independence square to swell not only the opposition. more and more people to come down to support the movement and we are also expecting a pro-government rally to take place over the course of the weekend we're hearing that up to two hundred thousand pro president covert supporters could be descending on europe pisky square which is just around one hundred yards to my left hand side around one hundred yards away from where we are right now in the heart of the opposition movement and these protesters they've been here now for over three weeks
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on the demonstrations the protests that have suffocated this part of kiev a beginning to take their toll on the economy as well as my colleague now reports the. key of protest have ended its fourth week with no sign it will die down the recent attempt by police to clear the streets proved fruitless and i'm only hard in the people's resolve it took the protesters only several hours to rebuild the barricades which the police had taken down in a matter of minutes and now they're even bigger than before the blockade has existed for almost two weeks now and not only create something of a traffic nightmare for the locals but also as the government. it cripples the country's economy because of governmental buildings being under siege ukraine's prime minister says the country is still without said budget for next year across the shows for drafting the budget for next year and the parliament should have an opportunity to work on it the protests are destruction many social projects like road construction in metro atlanta which here badly needs the economic impact is
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being felt far from the rallies in the capital at one of the country's leading winemakers factories a thousand kilometers away from the scenes playing out in kiev times are tough but . what's going on in kiev is complete chaos and it's causing serious economic damage to state enterprises like our vineyard our export license has expired because work in the public offices in the capital was disrupted by the protest we were unable to export five trucks of wine to russia and lost two hundred fifty thousand euros and now our contract with russian importance for the next year is up in the air because they doubt our reliability. and that's happening to a country already on the verge of economic collapse with an external debt of one hundred thirty six billion dollars and what is widely seen by economists as a pre default level standard and poor's have recently warned if the violence continues they will need to lower ukraine's credit rating even further unless the country gets a large injection of cash from somebody over the next six months at the latest
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maybe even sooner than they will default fearing ukraine's economy would not survive the unrest ukrainians rushed to the banks buying foreign currency and closing their accounts in november foreign currency reserves experienced a deficit of almost eight hundred million euro the second highest figure in the country's history there is a clean demand for foreign currency because definitely does not add to the financial stability of the country for in exchange for a service. to disappear very quickly. meaning that i mean. the people. basically. it's. a. revolution down with the government to prison that's what we've been hearing at the
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key of protests for weeks but a possible default or economic collapse is not the talk of the town behind the barricades. reporting from kiev ukraine. joins me now live from new york he's a producer of c.p.r. news a daily news report broadcast on public radio stations the united states the leader of ukraine's opposition wasn't happy about these roundtable talks with president let's listen to what he had to say. when you can the people that are gathered at this table are professionals but only in talking. we've heard no sound proposals on how to solve this crisis the round table discussion was only about vague declarations not a single step has been made towards the opposition. well the president has actually made several concessions hasn't he so why is the opposition adamant in
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refusing to compromise in any way. well first the crisis is only now actually becoming a crisis in real terms the crisis so-called is a political crisis that's been stoked by a group of people who are stirring up on rest inside ukraine including foreign officials on their own not even using proxies victoria nuland for example from the u.s. state department which is an amazing thing on its face a member of the greek parliament goes there on the public treasury to stir up trouble with ukraine and to promote the e.u. stance a bully well the e.u. was strangling greece these are some amazing images to me but the situation now is reaching you know you heard about the run on currencies in the banks these are the kinds of things that are consequent to an operation designed to do just that back in one nine hundred seventy one henry kissinger described the plan for chile as
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economy and he said that they would make it scream and create a political crisis that resulted in pinochet taking power the same operation the same playbook is being used against ukraine right now and there are geo political reasons for that what you owe them a united states you mentioned that the european union you are saying indeed officials from washington are present that amongst the protests what's it got to do with washington and what's happening in ukraine. well very interesting you have a shifting you know maybe it's in the she a logical motion perhaps but a shifting of. economic power from the unit polar western europe and japan and then united states construct with the emergence of the brics countries which includes russia and south africa and brazil you
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know very key players and china by the way in india they have the potentiality for an alternate global currency wise there for an alternate world economy lines there certainly insulation for a number of countries that are just trying to protect their own economic sovereignty insulation from the kinds of sanctions and blackmail that the u.s. has continued to carry out against the country g.'s since they did to russia in one thousand nine hundred seventeen. and you see this replicated in the alba countries and cities like merkel of. china building a canal through nicaragua all these kinds of things that are moving economic power away from wall street in london and pick you off ukraine from russia which it's so closely linked historically but playing on the divisions of political divisions that exist within the contrie which is therefore today in order to sort of cripple the construction of this alternate project that that's the the actual purpose and
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believe me i wouldn't put it past the you know the lesson that was well first of all let's look at who nuland is very quickly noland is actually married to robert kagan or was it's not on her official bio anymore but it was robert kagan is one of the he's not only arc it was one of the founders of pm x. these are people that have laid out the goal of taking out at politically militarily economically whatever any rivals around the world that exist to american power. russia along with the other brics countries clearly is a rival a potential rival going forward and what's being done is to is the deconstruction of whatever legs that they can stand on and ukraine right now is the soft underbelly let me quickly get your reaction on the nature of the protests the protests that have been allowed to block government buildings and build barricades around the central square now issued a similar protest take place in the u.s. do you think the authorities would have allowed that to happen there because after all washington has been very critical of way the ukrainian authorities have handled
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these protests if i were to make a request over the airwaves say the foreign minister sergei lavrov to come to washington and i would get a few thousand of my friends to occupy the white house and i would ask him to address us there i would go to prison for suggesting so you can imagine how they would treat an actual attempt like that both that to you when with respect to low level off mr lavrov coming here and also of course with respect to me as just an american citizen. thank you very much indeed for your thoughts live from new york producer of c.p.r. news good to see you thank you. we're just receiving some breaking news here in all of the international in the u.s. state of colorado at least two people have reportedly been injured off to govern
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shots were fired at a high school police report an active shooter is around the out of high school in the town of centennial now we don't know right now if any children have been injured were involved in this incident to happen just down the road from the aurora movie theater where a gunman went on a massacre in twenty twelve we'll bring you more on this developing story as soon as we get it here in our international. other news now a high court in australia has overturned the country's first law allowing same sex couples to marry that's just less than a week after it came into force this month india pulled its colonial era legislation criminalizing homosexuality while croatians overwhelmingly voted against same sex marriage and a national referendum well it is going to take looks into why some countries refused to give the rainbow a green light. most western countries already recognize in some form the right of gay couples to get married in adult children
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but in other parts of the world there is the opposite trend in less than a week. we've been married and we've been on there each in australia just days after the nation's capital allowed same sex couples to get married the high court there struck down that decision saying the regional authorities had no right to decide the matter to live in a relationship with loves and trusts to twenty seven australian couples then saw their marriage annulled within days australia's high court ruled that gay marriage was illegal because the marriage act only recognizes marriage between a man and a woman and only the parliament can change the legislation the most recent attempt to change the law in the australian parliament failed last year polls in the country show support for gay marriage stands at fifty three percent. and offered it absolutely amazing that you know history written jumping through hoops to try to make sure that every tree on the planet has its natural environments from
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far east that we would be challenging the definition of marriage which creates exactly that environment for a child requiring that it's between a man or woman in india the supreme court has just made gay sex illegal again since the nineteenth century india has had a ten year sentence on the statute books for quote court only into course against the order of nature four years ago a lower court found it on constitutional the supreme court just brought the law back into force by making a similar argument of the australian judges only the nation's parliament has the right to change it but with the overwhelming majority of indians against same sex marriage and with a conservative nationalist group leading in the upcoming elections in a legislative change in the next few years is highly unlikely but you have a lot of old. he just said. that all the communities of this got to.
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dance at each of the main sort if thing europe is seeing something similar this december coalitions motive in a referendum to outlaw same sex marriage two thirds of the most incompetent population and move changes in the constitution in the tug of war between those who are and those who are not allowed to say i do the conservative view on marriage seems at least at the moment to be prevailing in many parts of the world get a check on our team. in july same sex marriages got the role stamp of approval in england and wales but pushing the legislation through prime minister david cameron only deepened the rift within his own party conservative commentator ben harris by too many he says asking what people think is the only way it should have been done was that she did the same sex marriage just lation that was the straw that broke the camel's back but the conservative party remains divided and same sex marriage is one of the causes of that so what i would have liked to see these first let's
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have a debate about in the conservative policy work out how to get the legislation right perhaps a system like france where. religious institutions and hotels or whatever then you won't want to hold. weddings to or you can do so and then the state simply on the right say union between two people in the interest it really will form that union takes extending civil partnerships all that would've been a better way to do it and i think a referendum would have been very important as well because it removes the controversy if a question for david cameron is can he convince the conservative philosophy that he's actually conservative enough to bring this legislation forward. well more news coming up after this short break this is international. the media leave us so we leave the media. by the same motions to cure. all your party physical. issues that no one is asking with the guests that you
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it's been claimed the co-founder of the infamous file sharing website pay is reportedly being held in solitary confinement in denmark of a takes up the story. supporters and family members of twenty nine year old got freed while he was one of the founders of the bit torrent site pirate bay have been expressing their concern over the conditions he's being held in in a danish prison now in june of this year he was sentenced to two years in jail in denmark for computer hacking now the charges that were brought against him related to alleged hacking into the the computer network of a computer systems company as well as the danish driving license database now the head of the danish police force the national police commissioner of denmark said
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that the operation that was being run by mr wild had been incredibly sophisticated now he has drawn supporters from across the world including the likes of julian assange should actually called for him to be to be released or at least have his his is conditions in which he's being held in improved but these aren't the first legal problems that he's had he was part of the group that founded pirate bay which was used to share bit torrent surround the world now that was the subject of a very high profile case regarding copyright infringement sampai isn't supporters come out and say well the conditions in which he's being kept have well certainly overstepped the boundaries for the crime he's committed while his lawyer louise ways says that the conditions her client has had to endure are normally only reserve for violent criminals and terrorists. i don't understand what's going on to be honest and i've been both a prosecutor many years ago and i've been employed with the ministry of justice and
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to be honest these days i'm bit embarrassed that they treat him this way i don't understand why i got fleet has been in denmark for sixteen days now and the restrictions were put upon him from day one and two weeks ago i asked for a formal decision from the prison service so that i could actually tell my client what's going on and i received what was yeah three four sentences just stating that you know referring to this section in the danish legislation he is to be put under special restrictions and it was a big surprise to me because normal normally these restrictions are only used if people are very well violent towards other inmates and i have also i know one case where it's been used against someone who was charged of terrorism but for me it was a big surprise that this was that they used these restrictions on god for it.
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well no let's have a look at some more news in brief this hour in our world update in iraq officials say government of killed eighteen alling gas workers in the northeast of baghdad reports say most of the dead are iranians who were attacked as they were digging a trench to extend a pipeline running between iran and iraq some sources say the incident took place in a predominantly sunni area now another seven people have been wounded in this attack . the un says christian militias in the central african republic have killed twenty seven muslims comes as around sixteen hundred french forces are doing their best to stabilize the situation in the nation verges on chaos and the government fighters who support the president are fighting form was the rebels who seized power in march more than five hundred people were killed in the country last week with the united nations warning the death toll is expected to rise. in the twenty first century is hard to believe that people still live in quays but is it
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anything actually wrong with that well local authorities in granada in spain have said there's no room for cavemen in this city but their latest attempt to relocate the families living underground has failed after some fierce resistance if you cover over ports now from the south of spain it's views like of this one breathtaking isn't it that's made good not a famous for drawing visitors in but it's the city's plans to force out a group of residents from this very hill that's drawing controversy now it's a bit of an unusual kind of story we're in the foothills of the sierra nevada mountains an area that's pockmarked with countless caves caves which people have called home for years now the residents are a colorful mix of characters that we have spaniards immigrants students people who don't have a place to call home as well as people who prefer their home to reflect a bit of an unusual kind of lifestyle. the residents here say they've formed a sort of community now this is an example of one of these so-called homes nothing
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fancy really quite small there's room for a couch some photographs of course it is very clearly a cave most importantly of course it's protection from the elements now they the residents here don't all have the papers to prove that they actually belong here some do say they do but their days of refuge do seem to be over that's because the city is trying to evict them from this area the city believes that it is a danger actually to the people living here that's because this mountain they say could collapse and actually hurt the people who reside in the area but the residents here have a very different take on that i mean we are resisting with all the legal means we have unlike the authorities whose actions have been unfair and on lawful throughout the entire process there hasn't been a single collapse in the cave since they declared we were living in ruins three years ago this only suggests that they've been lying and simply looking for a reason to throw us out. we're really feel completely safe and comfortable
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sleeping here every night the only thing we're asking the government for is another independent examination of the place because during the one they did back in two thousand and ten no one came to see how we live nobody actually entered the case whatever the case the authorities say they're certain they want to evict residents from at least eight of the caves the residents of course say they're not going to budge are we here at r t we'll be covering the developments over the next few days to do stay with us for that coverage reporting from granada spain for r t i'm lucy catherine of. al-qaeda linked rebels in syria have abducted one hundred twenty kurds in a village near the border with turkey now this news has been reported by the syrian observatory for human rights groups said that all the captives including at least six women have been taken to an unknown location or carter linked groups have been terrorizing the kurdish enclave in syria with several unconfirmed reports putting the number of those killed in the hundreds but what have expert analysis and more
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news of this development in the next hour here on r.t. international meantime coming up after the break it is politicking with host larry king. just imagine a foreign leaders like alexander lukashenko or vladimir putin just showed up an anti e.u. protest and all garia greece are hungry to urge people to leave the e.u. and join up with the eurasian customs union obviously the mainstream media would be on fire screaming that this is part of an attempt to usurp democracy and steal the country's away some sort of imperialist agenda and you know what they might be right about that but the weird thing is that for some reason the mainstream media isn't talking about foreign politicians speaking to and or possibly agitating
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protesters in ukraine like speaker of the lithuanian parliament loreto grows in india and vice president got sick proto c. of h. and former polish pm jaroslav kaczynski he had the european union brassfield is just fine for their politicians to go to foreign countries and fire up protestors to start a pro e.u. revolution but then all their journalist write about is how russia is trying to put pressure on ukraine to not join the e.u. the obvious hypocrisy of this stinks all the way up the moscow but that's just my opinion. right from the scene. first street. and i think you're. on a reporter's twitter. instagram. to
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be in the. the obama camp fix a failing health care system to doctors with very different opinions are going to weigh in and one of the millennialism abandoning the president and obamacare with the deadline approaching the signed up we're going to take a close look at the president's health care act from different perspectives it's all next on politicking with. politicking on larry king we start today with two doctors with very different views on the president's affordable care act in new york dr richard am reeling he's president elect of the association of american physicians and surgeons
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a practicing their frolics just in washington dr georges benjamin executive director of the american public health association he's a internist and emergency room doctor and he supports obama care we thank you both for coming doctor i am willing an overview and briefly if you can what's what's the rub what do you have against this concept since up until obamacare think we were the only industrialized nation in the world without a health care plan for its citizens. well we have a fractured and disjointed healthcare plan that is heavily government financed at this point almost fifty percent are on some sort of government can finance health care as of right now before obamacare and then we have this crazy private system where individuals purchase health insurance through their employer and that of course is a real problem because it limits the choice that it makes the. payment
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a benefit in lieu of salary and gives you an incentive to spend so we have this massive third party system in reality very few people are without some sort of health insurance and that rationale for taking over this entire part of the economy was never a good one there were just like a relatively small number of people who had trouble getting insurance because of preexisting conditions and they could have been handled much more simply and more economically in the current program dr benjamin where is dr carolyn wrong well we have fifty million people who don't have health insurance that's a lot of people we also know that about forty four thousand people die each and every year simply because they don't have health insurance and i can tell you when i was practicing emergency medicine the first question anyone ever asked was what kind of insurance are you have so the affordable care act tried to build on our existing system provide as minimal disruption even though with having some challenges compared to what could have happened this is really minimal disruption
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jamling how do you respond. well the fifty million figure was a fiction that was composed largely of people that were between jobs and didn't have insurance trenchantly for part of the year and who eventually got insurance and it also included illegal aliens and people who were young and healthy and invincible and who felt that buying insurance was a bad deal for them so there's perhaps ten million twelve million hardcore uninsured who could have been handled much more economically and the affordable care act doesn't really address these people in fact it's putting people off of their insurance it's throwing people out of their insurance program they had perfectly good insurance that they were happy with that they bought themselves or next year you'll see that the employer sponsored health insurance is also going to get decimated that these are.
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