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i think. they would like to know that you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution which says that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy. to make you know i'm sorry and on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going on we go beyond identifying the truth rational debate real discussion critical issues facing america among them are you ready to join the movement then welcome to the big picture. the big picture i'm tom hartman coming up in this half hour
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a new study is out claiming that a lack of consensus building is what caused the downfall of the occupy wall street movement what do occupy ors think about the movements ability to form a collective measure message and is the movement really dead also creationists used to be a marginalized group in their beliefs used to be considered radical but not anymore creationism is on the rise in classrooms in course across the nation is that a good thing or is that it's nine our children a proper education and america isn't the happiest country in the world in fact it's not even in the top ten so what's eating away at our nation's morale and how do we improve. in the most of the rest of the news wal-mart the nation's largest retailer is now trying to profit off the very people who are fighting back against the power and greed of giant corporations like wal-mart. the mega stores selling posters showing
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occupiers it's a coffee party in new york city and selling them for a cool fifty two dollars this latest product offering by wal-mart was surely a rage members of the occupy movement but unfortunately that movement seems to be on life support and some researchers think they know why a recent study released by the journal psychological science argues that a lack of consensus building is what doomed the occupy wall street the study's researchers write the inability of liberal occupy wall street protesters to achieve consensus on vital issues alternately contributed to the movement's failure to develop solidarity and enact political change is a lack of consensus building really what hurt the occupy movement the most and did the movement fail to enact real and lasting change like the researchers argue joining me now for more on the rise and fall of the occupy movement is for so a grim participant spokesperson with occupy wall street and the call carty occupy activist and participant in occupy wall street as well or so and nicole welcome to
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you both. and i think you thanks for joining us first pursue your thoughts on wal-mart cashing in on the occupy movement. well the first thing to understand is that the poster is actually being sold by third party sellers through wal-mart so it's just a small business person selling the poster through the big channels that wal-mart has to sell items online so actually that money the majority of that money from the sale of that particular poster will go to a small business which is great however you know it is ironic that occupy wall street has been pretty active in the movement to hopefully in you know the best case unionized wal-mart in the even better case have. completely worker own and that would be pretty exciting say forty two percent of the. the
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profits go towards a single family one hundred fifty billion dollars is owned by sixteen people imagine the real transformed it seems that could happen in this country if either the kind the kind the company or that wealth of that family were nationalized yeah i'm totally with you nicole i'm curious the this study says a lack of consensus but there were a number of people who were arguing that the demand for consensus that had been brought into the early occupy wall street groups and in new york city largely by the the r.c.p. people the. groups and whatnot. you know demanding that everybody have consensus and there be quote no leaders although they seem to always be presenting somebody to moderate the bat was the thing that was gone mean things up your thoughts on all those on low as creator and occupy i can tell you that there is nothing new
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better to do than to actually build a really meaningful consensus i think what's really interesting about the article that you're going to that puts this new research study is that they kind of say liberals are too unique and they want to be special and they can ever build consensus been in actuality i think in occupy we built we did build a consensus and the problem with why it wasn't picked up by institutions like that look at a party at the republican party or what have you is because that contemptuous was generally a systemic critique and you know these posts are totally part and parcel of those systems are not going to advocate a consensus that is at odds with their existence you know what makes perfect sense . the. the ability to cause political change. requires doesn't it something more than just a critique of the system doesn't. something like occupying the system.
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well that's interest seen i mean the main brought you know the main point i got out of the article was overwhelming disappointment the occupy wall street did not join the ranks of the democratic party when the democratic party has you know certainly failed in its mission in the past thirty years there's areas in the united states that you go to that as a woman i cannot get an abortion you know families do not have proper support to grow and to be you know all of these values that supposedly are you know populist in nature brought by the democratic party i mean this is the same party that handed over billions of dollars to the banks system instead of demanding that i'm totally with the pursuit of the point i was making is back in two thousand and two thousand the concord project was distributing d.v.d.'s and you could see the
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you tubes of these online. and having these living or meetings all over america teaching tea party folks how to show up at local republican party groups volunteer to be commit precinct committee people and the precinct committee chair people decide who are going to be the primary candidates and so they get like five people on in the primary but they were all tea partiers and so it guaranteed the tea partiers are going to to d.c. shouldn't wouldn't wouldn't that be a useful model to occupy the democratic party. people have been talking about occupying congress not just the democratic party and you know i would argue that the out respond through the tea party you know it just developed an entire generation of obstructionists which how does that help any of us no i you know i agree i think it's i think it's been net net toxic but it's an example of an outside group took over political party. paul your thoughts on us i want to add
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something that's because i think we're actually talking about the plan actually how the tea party came to power they've got the tea party again but if you're looking at why the tea party is as powerful as congress right now it's because it had huge corporate backers it was completely. brothers so many huge corporations and of course that money talks and washington is already talking in washington so i think we can't be surprised to see an institution that is completely bankrolled by the corporations which already control a large too large part of the politics that happened in d.c. being successful there it totally makes sense actually but occupy wasn't backed by any of these institutions and thus you see it's still your church. seems though that occupy actually has had an impact on the progressive movement and on the democratic party it seems seekers seems a call like they're not being acknowledged i absolutely think so i think that you're definitely seeing
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a move toward the left in the institutional democratic party but i think further more than that you see a consensus that's growing outside of the political system people are disenchanted people don't trust the system to do the things that it's supposed to do if you look at it so it came out actually the same week as the study you're quoting so that two out of three americans no longer believe in the american dream which points to a kind of systemic critique right which didn't exist before and i think you're absolutely right to call purcell a work for time thank you so much for being with us. thank you you thank. it is the good the bad of the very very bomb aside only oddly the good robert
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writes during an appearance on a.b.c.'s this week yesterday the former clinton administration labor secretary blasted republicans for blocking every attempt by president obama to do something about america's ongoing poverty program. five years of president barack obama we see the issue the problem worse well the problem is worse i think it has something to do perhaps with the intransigence of the speaker's party because every time there was a jobs bill every time there was an effort to expand a low income housing every time there was an effort to provide a better it in modern times for united states we're talking about equal opportunity and where russia is fellow guest former speaker of the house newt gingrich tried to blame democrats for poverty in america right back pointing out that any quality is a problem everywhere. what's happening in america is happening all over america and it is happening in a way that has to do with the fact that that wages median wages are going nowhere and rents are going up and there is absolutely no response in washington or
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elsewhere particularly particularly newt i'm surprised you are not here as we are unfortunately out of time as usual secretary rice is right on the money good to see him calling out speaker gingrich is. b.s. too bad mad schultz i was republican secretary of state has spent one hundred fifty thousand dollars over the last year and a half investigating you guessed it voter fraud or schultz as the voter fraud is a big problem is much vaunted ballot security initiative has yet to find any concrete evidence of mass vote. five people charging voter fraud have actually had their cases dismissed and of the five who have lied to the pleaded guilty most broke the law by accident destroyed story reporter one woman death and gallagher cast an absentee ballot on behalf of her daughter but recently moved to minnesota and but she wouldn't be eligible to vote however after she mailed a ballot her daughter texted her that she had been eligible to vote at which time gallagher's self reported the incident to the delaware county auditors office earth
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the republicans widespread voter fraud doesn't exist shame on secretary shultz for perpetuating the myth that adults and very very ugly show the republican north carolina state senator is under fire today for an anti obamacare tweet he sent out sunday morning rich referencing the supreme court's june two thousand and twelve decision to uphold the affordable care act's individual mandate. justice roberts' pen and obamacare has done more damage to the usa than the swords of the nazis soviets and terrorists combined that's right bob show things that obamacare and it's up to give people access to affordable health care is worse than the nazis the fact that anyone would even consider making that comparison is just very clear . coming up abbott has become an unattainable dream for millions of americans so what's making americans so unhappy and how can we turn our collective frowns upside down more on that and i'd still take.
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i'm the best at it and i think a society that's ok i'm a big corporation trying to convince that. can do. the bankers try to get all that money all about money and i'm a national effect for a politician writing the laws and regulations to tax corporate bankers. there is just too much. of a. topic that. so
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sometimes you know what you know and sometimes you know what you don't know and sometimes it's the firesign theater says the thing you know is wrong and you know you think you're wrong if you really are you're right. just to stretch your. money you know what is wrong when it comes to homeschooling there are a lot of different views many argue that homeschooling lacks the social exposure that's critical for a child's growth or development others argue that homeschooling can't possibly compare with traditional schooling experiences but there are concerns that homeschooling curriculum is being taken over by pseudo science and creationism so if you think that creationists have been marginalized in that their teachings aren't becoming mainstream in everything you know is wrong joining me now is eric hogan president of creation today welcome. totenberg seven back thanks for joining
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us how popular is creationism becoming homeschooling curriculum and even in our schools yes well in the public school system obviously it's not very popular because you're not allowed to teach it you're only allowed to teach the religion of evolution isn't the darwinian side of evolutionism which isn't scientific but in in home school movement so i say let them do whatever they want that's why they're homeschooling that's there's a reason for that they know just like our founding fathers knew that god is the one who gave them the authority over teaching their children the government's not in charge of teaching the kids the parents are so let him teach what they want and you're suggesting that this this is not child abuse this is actually preparing children for a functioning future to teach them of the world is only six thousand years old absolutely not only is it true it's not child abuse at all see here's the problem tom when we take a child and teach him that he's nothing but an animal and that he is a higher highly evolved to hear an animal and there there is no right and wrong
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then he's going to grow up believing in acting that out and so the problems that we see in society today the rise in violent crimes and things like that man were telling the kids are nothing but an animal and today they're acting like animals eric you're not an animal are you a plant no i'm a human being we're separate from the animals created by god so we said a word we're not animals no we're not it will work human beings we are. designed by god like i said you know we are set apart from the animals very interesting that the animal kind you know what. you know how can you suggest that this is anything other than religion dressed up as something other than religion i mean why not just call it religion want to say you know this is this is our belief and you know this is this is our religion and we're standing by it and you know i you know our kids are not going to become scientists at nasa but that's fine they might think david has confessed. to lead to dr. dr john stanford and didn't the cim
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gunman who is a young earth creationist and has done huge huge things for science today there are many scientists don't believe in darwinian evolution your belief in darwinian evolution doesn't make you unable to do science member talking to you a couple days ago about how no doctor uses evolution while he's prescribing medicine no doctor or no physicists use to let him out as not to is trying to figure things out no they don't you know of course they do if well for example if somebody comes into a hospital and they have an infection and it has acquired an immunity to see pro then they kick it up to something like math and so on if it's resistant to me if it's acquired through evolutionary processes or a resistance about the cell and a ticket to bank a minus and that's sort of the last here drug right now but i mean by your logic nobody should nobody should get a flu vaccine because the flu is mutating constantly and if you're saying everything is stable the way god created it then hey let's throw you know the flu vaccine well no you're sort of
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a straw man because i didn't say that now what you're describing is a not darwinian what you're describing is not darwinian evolution darwinian evolution says all the bacteria gave rise to everything else we see bacteria still as a bacteria we've never observed darwinian evolution that's never been seen you've you've never seen a fossil record. well again that's not observable testable did that's not doesn't fit there is no fossil record comes the earth is only six thousand years old it's interesting because we find billions of fossils trillions scuse me all around the world and what has to happen for a fossil to form is it has to be buried rapidly so to god put them there like me for a loss i mean as the sun no there was a global flood it was a flood that covered the entire world there are over two hundred seventy legends of that flood in different cultures around the world today confirming what the bible is already told us and she has lots of places that had had floods but. ya know
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these these legends specifically are of worldwide floods catastrophic events everything died except for eight people which fits it. i think we've lost there are those how did the us how did those fossils for they formed during the flood those fossils could not have formed slowly over millions of years why do they not why don't we test out with radio carbon dating methods as being millions of years old that radio carbon dating is a great science but it has a bunch of built in assumptions it assumes how much carbon was in the plants or animal when it died it assumes the rate of decay is the same there's about twelve different assumptions we cover those in our in our talks as we go around and educate people on hey hold it a lot of these things you've learned public school that are so called science aren't necessarily so the dinosaurs were around six thousand years ago. god created them in the garden of eden without a mini they were on the ark with noah they've always lived with man dinosaurs were on the ark yeah the big ones the big ones weren't but the little ones were just know how to store and get a pink no i had to make sure to pick one
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a blue one that's all seriously serious. well that's a big yard eric hovind thanks for being with. me and that's it sir that's it. now everything you know about but. thank. you. every year thousands of the holiday revelers from around the country gather new york city to celebrate santa's car billed as a nonsensical santa claus convention that happens once a year for absolutely no reason santa claus is really just a glorified fall or makes a different from other pub crawls however is that every santa con participant dresses up as everyone's favorite holiday icon quads but these sinners aren't looking for a cookie is they're looking through that as a result they often do things that would make mrs claus watch this year santa santa
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town alone probably produce enough flights to fill every stock in the up city to check out this video from saturday night of a group of santas brawling on the streets of gotham. looks like somebody's going to get some call in their stockings this year megan kelly would be happy though because all those brawling santas girly white.
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the declaration of independence was the first founding document in the history of the world. to specifically mention happiness as thomas jefferson's famous words read we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal and that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights that among these are life liberty and the pursuit of happiness for hundreds of years we stood by the idea that through hard work and perseverance and given the right opportunities anyone can be happy in america and achieve the american dream but today the american dream is on life support and happiness is more elusive than ever as arthur c. brooks points out the new york times according to new research one of the major variables under our control when it comes to overall happiness is happiness at work and a two thousand and twelve study by researchers at stanford university found that being happy is nearly impossible if someone's on employed and money aside unemployment increases the rates of divorce and suicide in fact being unemployed is so important
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to americans that according to the university of chicago's general social survey three quarters of americans wouldn't quit their jobs even if they set out a sudden financial windfall of course to be happy at work means you have a job and right now ten point nine million americans don't have a job. f.d.r. once said that happiness lies not in the mere position of money it lies in the joy of achievement in the thrill of creative effort the joy of achievement has been wiped out by thirty two years of reaganomics decades of insane trade policies that has shipped millions of good paying american jobs overseas crippling austerity measures and a general unwillingness by the government to be considered the employer of last resort according to the economic policy institute when nafta was signed into law by bill clinton in ninety four it was supposed to create two hundred thousand new jobs but instead as of two thousand and ten thanks to growing trade deficits and mexico after has helped to eliminate over six hundred eighty thousand american jobs in two
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thousand and ten when president obama signed into a chorus the u.s. korea free trade agreement the obama administration promised that that agreement would create and support at least seventy thousand american jobs but as that a.p.i. study points out in two thousand and eleven the u.s. trade deficit with south korea increased by over five billion dollars cost in the u.s. more than forty thousand jobs. meanwhile is so-called free trade agreements are wiping out american jobs in the private sector austerity is slashing jobs in the public sector. since june of two thousand and nine to republican fueled austerity measures seven hundred forty thousand americans have lost their jobs in the public sector and what's keeping many of these americans unemployed are the conservatives in washington who refuse to acknowledge that when capitalism fails our government should be the employer of last resort. back in one thousand nine hundred four
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f.d.r. released his so-called economic bill of rights and one of those rights was the right to a useful and renumerated job. right . but conservatives in washington don't see it f.d.r.'s way and instead they love a phony argument over the size of government from job killing trade policies and devastating austerity measures to the government's refusal to be the employer of last resort america has lost millions of jobs and thus happiness has become an
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unattainable dream for far too many people there's no way we can be a happy nation again without getting those jobs back and making sure that all americans have an equal shot at a good job site to close the books on reaganomics toss a sturdy aside keep good jobs in our country and make our government the employer of last resort by creating the modern equivalent of the w.p.a. and the c.c.c. . only then will americans really have the right to life liberty and most importantly the pursuit of happiness. and that's the way it is tonight monday december sixteenth two thousand and thirteen. begins with you get out there get active or.
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coming up on r t a federal court ruling delivered a blow to the u.s. surveillance judge found that the n.s.a. is tracking a phone data is likely to be unconstitutional the latest on this new development coming up the transfer of to guantanamo bay detainees to saudi arabia has given new hope for the detention camps closure with the obama administration pushing forward on the transfer of more detainees or is this the end of get no more on that ahead in mexico politicians and the public rise in protest against an energy bill critics fear it will allow foreign companies to plunder the nation's oil resources and help the u.s. dominate mexico's oil and update on this growing opposition later in the show.
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