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these things but do you not think that it is an interesting question to see if media around the world will do this and who will and when i'm still working on thing well that is an interesting question if you can interesting question no two they are too scared to pull the us government's argument in the morning with the written no more even if they say it is there are many other great tears that missoni what walk walk or what criteria are used to of an. interest newsworthiness no no you can write a script every news organization that has a website it has a website developer who can just go. like that and they get free hits in google. it is very very it is very very profitable to publish cables because you don't have to write cables it's free stories. the point as far as i see it is there. and there are boundaries to free speech
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in the same way as the boundaries to our thoughts and to our language and. misspeak when used to speak is basically what we are dealing with and these boundaries that look differently in different countries but they are always exist in one way or another that is color your sense of or conformism or self-censorship or whatever it may be and we have a very unique opportunity to actually just show where these boundaries are doesn't necessarily mean that these boundary is better than that boundary they're really showing where i was peeling back boundary that there is but one thing is that people usually are annoyed with people or if you're unaware of where the boundaries are the easiest way of getting a hold of them is by asking a person and it was a well i cannot write about the king kind of write about sex or whatever they are most often they like well i'll tell you that there are only about most of you know
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we say well we have no boundaries whatsoever yes and this is what you will get when you interview any journalist in the united kingdom or in brazil or in sweden or order it yet so what we have here is the tools in actually catching these boundaries if you push any organization they'll have monies and you're going to yes what i like and what i write all of them including what i lied. existing home. oh you know you. can come with me because just because we know what was yours for pretty. suspicious. of the guardian you got a paper that's been around nearly two hundred years. has completely sold this tradition it's international trade it's at the forefront of digital innovation with
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doing something that is almost unique in times and has no one else that looks time . very much took that. much that's just average that you're talking to me for a film which is documented. we're going to do there's a story don't you see how we roll out. there this is not just me that would do this is essentially your you don't agee you're right. yeah so here are some big surprise off the gobby we're going to. react to. the substantial. u.s. cables that why did the guy for example respects the shape of the u.s.
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don't. sit there nations this week carol in the mafia but the guardian version. one was. exceeding the mobile so why did you go with what i say many of the top developments upsidedown who can speak more tonight i guess i don't know i'm guess. that. the the monocles i have been called the mound of being used extensively by people from. the former soviet rule. to protect her dish. on the slightest trace looks good for her and so. says some of these
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people on board rich and can send me millions on on five occasions. also because it's on their little cable bridge sit in on. the telly. all ready. for record me. souls'. you see i was correct. so this is a case of. now ok you will draw. a great britain you know what is the little good ole boy and girl in the company can see. to g.'s and we will soon enough company. with that test just in the two thousand case that. doesn't prove it's not something that. could happen if we go to an easy
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easy and. good time cost time to do. that so that the norbert and his company can see we're a part. of the area they were extremely interested in. an hour ago here. on the variation of every day. i have to. find. some things would be god you. got. to. be. all. over the age mocking them and it will become. one name remained which was the name rough. it was to stop it. or.
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go forth and saw if it go if you switch from a. russian. life. was the subject of a. troll memory. we had kind of rubric getting serious when we said we tried to play with. trying to claim. why we. are married that. is an. option for you so. among them an equal consideration. so. if your point is that couldn't. be more explicit in explaining. why we do things and. some nature in general. were you hurtful i. go. if you're going to people are going to try
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to not. we haven't so it was decided that. the new york times would approach going across the mirror and said we have. two sets of communication with the american one is not the embassy in london and little. to see if you will we will do the very much because we need or is. a channel through you. and the second channel was a full set up but is that all the agencies. primary aim was to just go. into any.
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good afternoon you probably have seen either in person or on the t.v. screens the. state party thing that we just finished i won't repeat everything i said at the start they are but two of the. most significant response to what has happened is exactly what set. tray clinton is doing in a stall and. as we speak she is there working constructively on cooperation and security in a very important part of the world clearly the release of the authorized release of these documents you know. represents risk to the united states and to others with whom we collaborate. on this this is why we condemn what wiki leaks has done basically from kazakstan. right in through here.
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mr did your very in between i realize i'm going to be you as much as i really are there and i think. we. pulled that kind of. from two different countries where the leaks material has been have been published but they're only looking from the outside without actually having any particular knowledge about it you get the impression that all these various. private u.s. institutions. have acted. from being pressured in one way or another by the u.s. government in order to block or flows of money in order that's not true that is you know in this there are three times that is that is absolutely not true. in my time in government. at no time did government tell any private company what to do.
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i mean there's been rumors there's been suggestions of that and to be honest there's been no. evidence by those who question this you know. it's with companies protect their own reputation it's not for the government to tell a company what it should or shouldn't do. they've taken actions because they they. they see it as as in their interest to do this or that with a one hundred look at their fear for the same thing were to happen to for example the new york times of the year of times who were all of a sudden. stopped from getting funds and they without their offices closed i could hear it because hating a hypothetical that i can't follow your brain from harvard to go where they are in the exact same position as for example recruiting near a parent decides to publish everything that they get no i mean no but that there is a very sharp distinction here. i mean. you have two actors
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who are in the business of communicating with a broader public. one after made clear the new york times and other publications we are going to report on what we have we want to do it responsibly and we want to do it in a way that. is is it's respectful. of the danger that this might cause to specific individuals. and the new york times voluntarily withheld certain documents and certain names because they recognized as we did that the publication of these documents of publication these days would put real life human beings at risk. not at all argued basically for the abolition of these kinds of agencies to
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interfere in the internal affairs of foreign nations i think it's counterproductive i think we create more enemies than we do friends when we involve ourselves in these so-called color coded revolutions many of them have been overturned since the united states with some bros engaged in them i would say if the common turn has been shut down the narrow to shut down some of these agencies in the united states . millions around the globe struggle with hunger each good. what if someone offers a lifetime food supply no charge. they can the very strong position against g.m.o. and we think that's. the genetic anymore the fate products are. there is no. evidence to this any problem with genetic engineering
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when you make a deal. or is free cheese always in a mouse trap i don't believe that. that free. enterprise is profit. these golden rice. right from the sea. first for you and i think pictures. on our reporters twitter. and instagram. to be in the know. on. those the media leave us so we need to be. by the same motions to truly play your part of the
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you're tough queens girl right but in queens you're not afraid of this stuff you went down there what what's up what is to the most about what was going on in zuccotti park what surprised me the most about what was going on there is that it's . totally lawless you disguise yourself if you try to look like a protester are you going undercover worried you weren't advertising your post right when i when i spoke to people i told him i was a post reporters there was no secret and how did he receive it. well. some people didn't really like that i was a poser of orders to be honest i don't very disturbing here though you write from your column from your article the threat of rape is very real here for men and women i just sleep at night i did it and see. if you could be made to be ok see i had so many characters i paint canvas g.o.p. from your post thank you so much thank you thank you.
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ministers and stuff and some of them trip through here it really is the customer yeah yeah it's pretty typical i mean when they're in town with some of them invite themselves and some of them we invite to come over and meet with the. editorial writers and things. and how does it seem to work out your. roles in the. pretty predictable but every once in a while one of the makes news but it's you know it's good to just give them a chance to come over and share their views yeah. we kind of makes you into an embassy or a for their the embassy of the new york times or a basically right. i think you know you may have discovered this yourself or a news organizations don't always get the kind of access they would like to officials in washington and if you want to go ask the military or the white house to respond to classified information. you know. it can be difficult if you're if you're a representative of
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a foreign news organization i don't think that's a shame but it's just it's a reality so i think they felt. we would be in a better position to confront the administration with what we had and solicit some kind of reaction from them which which turned out to be the case and your counterpart was that mainly year p.j. crowley or some other people. over it you know this is. the first couple of meetings i think they went over and had them in person and they were representatives of the state department is assume the intelligence agencies were there i know the cia was represented. i'm not sure i just don't remember the military was there. because at that point it was mostly nonmilitary matters. after that after the first couple of conversations they just had a daily phone call basically. they did it all you know there was none of this
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everybody gathered in a room it was they would say we really think you should hold back on this particular cable had and here's why and then we would discuss and decide whether to withhold it or not. many of the countries where we've been traveling and there. talking to be the editors or politicians there has been a concern that. these materials can have a destabilizing effect and that in a particular country when you consider. the consequences of not publishing that we considered it yeah we talked about it a lot i mean yemen is a good example of that because the state department's argument was this this could be destabilizing. but i kind of think it's not our job to decide what is destabilizing and or for that matter to preserve the stability of . countries elsewhere but do you feel that you would have acted differently had the
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material been of such character that it would have potentially destabilized your country rather than. you can imagine if that's hard for me to imagine what that would be i mean would you have to have an example or a few years ago you had to see that wireless what weren't less wire tapping right yes i mean can you explain how you reasoned at that point in time when you didn't publish the material for which the or when i did publish the first one when you didn't at first and then i when i didn't publish them. but the concern with wasn't whether it would destabilize our government because certain was whether or not it would be of significant value to people who want to attack us. i think been your choice. and if you were the sole on there is of this material you would not have published. the whole thing that oh. you know first of all
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because there are. you know. in the documents that we posted. we redacted many names of people who would have been put in danger. we have not. i studied all the documents to know how many more people might be put in danger to just post the whole thing would be i think irresponsible. and say with every dime that the names of those who would have been in danger and published it on your site would that be something which would be indicted. probably not. but we had up we had cited how we were going to publish how we were going to have the material you know regardless of legal consequences just on journalistic grounds . you know we only wanted to publish we only wanted to do you need the room. yep. you need me or the. oh well. i was dense and you
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hear it right then i heard you were in here. i was the highest i'm glad you liked it oh yes it made the drudge report so i'm getting some so i'm getting a lot of traffic the prove it i drafted supporting my children but you know that you got a traffic you got the kind of traffic you necessarily what because a lot of a lot of people who use the word scumbag. but it's a technical term anyway thank you. for talking about our favorite subject with the leaks oh. this is arthur sulzberger was the publisher. and. we were just earlier going back to the writing life of my first op that was published this morning which is. a somewhat. half hearted defense of obama against. distant disenchanted
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liberals and you know what the drudge report is the drudge report is a website. very conservative website. that has for the basically aggregates headlines from all over the place but with a kind of right wing commentary attached that it's got a huge fall so if matt drudge is the guy runs this website. find something that you've written puts it on his home page with a snarky comment. it drives traffic amazingly i mean driving traffic is nice but the traffic that he drives is mostly you know. you scumbag idiot but traffic has.
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the right to be a muslim or. look at the bricks through clear example that you see. on stuff that's got us kind of the writer. for the letters is this significant of death for us he's going to let them assume that it will simply force. is. different in secret the symbol. of a group modest effort indifferent to of all the need for roots i just need a gun. or she's going to get up and run. in the us
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seven there are no records you are going to hear from a number. of those let the person really talk to put i should base that came into it would enable us to cut to possibly with. this woman to put a good book it is possible to be another kugel it is music to displace but. the sentiment delirium what good things cause some to take the.
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on foot they enter our territorial waters like they fish they load the fish on to the ships and leave for europe. to day illegal fishing is taking the bread out of our mouths. it is a whistleblower edward snowden has always maintained his motivation was to force a serious conversation about the all encompassing surveillance state well he certainly has achieved this so with mission accomplished is it time to cut a deal with them even grant them apart. mission to teach me.
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