well i think these nice places to be like these people even if you didn't belong to us and for us i'm not trees this is the right place to propose that they call it a great job i mean it really does these particular people we're working with who the fuck all that you know why why why do they do anything. why would they work with these chemicals why would they not work with these kind of mold many of them for money yes and this needs to be said they do this for the money yeah but the why is it why everybody has one thing well known what a liar it's why did you have doing this here on. the first day that i was judging. and the men who are judging no not all of these are the ones who are living these movies judging that it's ok i'm just saying in issue b. we need to be concerned that we're not going around places saying we're better than you because i've had this situation and i fucked off in years to that this is what

i'd like to see this approach to the one where if you seem out of seeing that you you go to two people we're not going there as we start talking to them this earlier we can extend then when they have or this is a strong reaction you're like strong reaction when they said they were promised the cables because they didn't know me going to the first place it was no no your action all before you have you had a quarrel then you get a slightly different opinion then you don't get that you only get the response they want to get as opposed to show in the audience what they will say about these things do you not think that it is an interesting question to see if media around the world will do this and he will and he went on stealing of thing well that is an interesting question if it's an interesting question you know today or too scared to publish the u.s. government document in the morning at the risk of knowing or even if they see it there are many other great tears that missoni what what walk right what criteria are used the argument the. interest newsworthiness know now that you can write

a script every news organization that has a website it has a website developer who can just go. like that and they get free hits in google. is very very it is very very profitable to publish cables because you don't have to write cable it's free stories. the point as far as i see it is that. there are boundaries to free speech as in the same way as there are boundaries to our thoughts into our language and there . are nice people in use to speak it is basically what we are dealing with and these boundaries that look differently in different countries but they are always exist in one way or another that the color of your senses or conformism or self-censorship or whatever it may be and we have

a very unique opportunity to actually just show where these boundaries are doesn't necessarily mean that these boundary is better than that boundary they're really showing where i would have to look back down to that area but the thing is that people usually are annoyed with people or if you're unaware of where the boundaries are the easiest way of getting a hold of them is by asking about it and it was a well i cannot write about looking for a kind of write about sex or whatever they are most often they like it when i tell you that there are only about most of you know we say well we have no boundaries whatsoever yes and this is what you will get when you interview any journalist in the united kingdom or in brazil or in sweden or it ever again so what we have here is the tools in actually catching these boundaries if you push any eigenstates and they will have monies and you're going to yes what are right and why all of them including why not outside. existing home. oh

you know you. can come with me because just think over. what you'll see years for. suspicious. of the guardian you got a paper that's been around nearly two hundred years. has completely sold it has for for its international trade it's at the forefront of digital innovation with doing something that is almost unique in times and no one else that looks. very much took it out. that's just average that you're talking to me for a film which is documented. we're going to do there's the story don't you see how we roll out. there this is going to just meet

with all this is essentially your you know a.g. you know. yeah there are some big surprise because we're going to. react to. the substantial. u.s. cables that why did you go for example. that star shaped. the u.s. don't pay for their nations this week carol in the mafia buffy universe. we want to watch. that exceeded the most watched so why did you go with what i say the other night of the got the documents up so i can't. speak more tonight i guess i don't know i'm guess

. that. in the courts i have the vote of no longer being used extensively by people from. the former soviet rule. to protect her attention. to the subtlest case looks good for them so. some of these people all good rich can send me millions on on five cases. also a little cable bridge to get in on. television . all right. for the record me. souls' you. see. so this is

a case of. now attention and you will regret it in. great britain you know what is good to see there's a little good ole boy and girl in the company can suit. two g.'s and we will see what company. it was that tesco just. two thousand case. doesn't prove it's not something that. could happen. to you he's even. been taking calls trying to do. that so that the norbert and his company can see we're a part. of the area they're extremely interested in. an hour ago. beat the creation of every state.

i have to. find. that it was some five thousand would be god you. got. to. do extremely. well just. rage mocking them and it will become. one name remained which was the name rough. it was the socket. or. you have a horse and so i fit both is which. russian. life. was the subject of my cable. from memory. we had kind of rubric getting serious when we said we tropics and. we were trying to play. while we. commemorate that so that you know

it was an. option for you so. among them an equal consideration. so. if your point is that couldn't. be more explicit and explaining. why we would do things and. some neutral you. were were you first of all i. got it right. if you're going to people are going to try to not. we haven't so it was decided that. the new york times would approach going across the mirror and said we have. two sets of communication with your and one is not the embassy in london

a little. to see if you will we will do the very much because we need or is. a channel through to you. and the second channel was a little set up by the state caught up in the agency's. run rate aim was to just go. into the news. that afternoon you probably have seen either in person or on the t.v. screens the. state party thing that we just finished i won't repeat everything i said at the start there but here are the. most significant response to what has happened as a. exactly what secretary clinton is doing in a stall or kazakhstan as we speak you know she is there working constructively

on cooperation and security in a very important part of the world clearly the release of the unauthorized release of these documents you know. represents risk to the united states and to others with whom we collaborate. in this this is why we condemn what wiki leaks has stopped basically from kazakstan. right in through here. mr as he did your grocery in between i realize i'm going to be you as much as i really are going to. pull the kind of or. from two different countries where the police material has been have been published but they're only looking from the

outside without actually having any particular knowledge about it you get the impression that all these various. private u.s. institutions. have acted. from being pressured in one way or another by the u.s. government in order to block or flows of money in order that's not true that that is you know in the lizard's where it is that is that is absolutely not true. in my time in government. at no time did government tell any private company what to do. i mean there's been rumors there's been suggestions of that and to be honest there's been no real. evidence by those who question this you know it's with companies protect their own reputation it's not for the government to tell a company what it should or shouldn't do. they've taken actions because they. they they see it as as in their interest to do this or that with

a one hundred look at their fear the same thing were to have been through for example the new york times if in europe times were all of a sudden. stopped from getting funds and they went out of their offices closed i could hear it because hating a hypothetical that i can't follow being from harvard or the group where they are in the exact same position as for example recruiting in europe time decides to publish everything that they get no i mean no but that there is a very sharp distinction here. i mean. you have two actors who are in the business of communicating with a broader public. one actor made clear the new york times and other publications we are going to report on what we have we want to do it responsibly and we want to do it in a way that. is is it's respectful of. the

danger that this might cause to specific individuals. and the new york times voluntarily withheld certain documents and certain names because they recognized as we did that the publication of these documents of publication these days would put real life human beings at risk. big bucks but. we're going to do the job did you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution and. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy shred albers. rule. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of our government and across several we've been a hydrogen why a handful of transnational corporations will profit by destroying what our founding

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the. new york post sent a very intrepid reporter down there to sleep overnight he spent thursday night in the chicago park i did live to tell about it what was it like. it was a scary place i mean zuccotti park right now is it is it's own country person you're a tough queens girl right but in queens you're not afraid of this stuff you went down there what what's up what is you the most about what was going on in zuccotti park what surprised me the most about what was going on there is that it's. totally

lawless you disguise yourself if you try to look like a protester are you going undercover worried you weren't advertising you were supposed to write one on one i spoke to people i told him i was a post reporters there was no secret and how did he receive it. well. some people didn't really like that i was a poser of orders to be honest i don't very disturbing here though you write from your column from your article the threat of rape is very real here for men and women i just sleep at night i did it and see. if you could be made to be ok see i had so many characters a pain kenda c.o.v. from your post thank you so much thank you thank you.

i you know. i'm also like i said once you study and it is closed until it is and. it's out it's general assembly at the u.n. and we have. no idea what coming. it's the u.n. general assembly opens this week so there's. a lot of presidents and foreign ministers and stuff and some of them trip through here it really is a customer yeah yeah it's pretty typical i mean when they're in town with some of them invite themselves and some of them we invite to come over and meet with the. editorial writers and things. and how does it seem to work out your. risk

in the. pretty predictable but every once in a while one of the makes news but it's you know it's good to just give them a chance to come over and share their views yeah. we kind of makes you into an embassy or a friend there the embassy of the new york times or a basically right. and i think you know you may have discovered this yourself or a news organizations don't always get the kind of access they would like to officials in washington and if you want to go ask the military or the white house to respond to classified information. you know. it can be difficult if you're if you're a representative of a foreign news organization i don't think that's a shame but it's just it's a reality so i think they felt. we would be in a better position to confront the administration with what we had and solicit some kind of reaction from them which which turned out to be the case and your

counterpart was that mainly you p.j. crowley or some other people. over it that you know this is. the first couple of meetings i think they went over and had them in person and they were representatives of the state department ice assume the intelligence agencies were there i know the cia was represented. i'm not sure i just don't remember whether the military was there. because at that point it was mostly nonmilitary matters. after that after the first couple of conversations they just had a daily phone call basically. they did it all you know there was none of this everybody gathered in a room it was they would say we really think you should hold back on this particular cable and here's why and then we would discuss and decide whether to withhold it or not. many of the countries where we have been traveling and there.

talking to be the editors of politicians there has been a concern that. these materials can have a destabilizing effect and that in a particular country when you consider. the consequences of not publishing that we considered it yeah we talked about it a lot i mean yemen is a good example of that because the state department's argument was this this these could be destabilizing. but i kind of think it's not our job to decide what is destabilizing and or for that matter to preserve the stability of. countries elsewhere and if you feel that you would have acted differently had the material been of such character that it would have potentially destabilized your country rather than. syria you mentioned it it's hard for me to imagine what that would be i mean if you had had an example or a few years ago you have to say that wireless weren't less wire tapping right yes i

mean can you explain how you reasoned at that point in time when you didn't publish the materials for most of them or when i did publish the first one when you didn't at first and then i when i didn't publish them. but the concern with it wasn't whether it would destabilize our government because certainly was whether or not it would be of significant value to people who want to attack us. had it been your choice. and if you were the sole on there as of this material you would not have published. the whole thing that oh. you know first of all because there are. you know. in the documents that we posted. we redacted many names of people who would have been put in danger. we have not.

studied all of the documents to. no how many more people might be put in danger to just post the whole thing would be i think irresponsible. and let say with every dime to the names of those who would have been in danger and published it on your site would that be something which would be. probably not. but we had cited how we were going to publish how we were going to have the material you know regardless of legal consequences just on journalistic grounds. you know we only wanted to publish we only wanted you need the room. yep. you need me or the. oh well. i was dense and you hear a rant but then i heard you were in here. i just feel this i'm glad you liked it oh yes it made the drudge report so i'm getting some so i'm getting a lot of traffic to prove it i drafted it's perfect ok but now that you've got

a traffic you've got the kind of traffic you necessarily what because a lot of a lot of people who use the word scumbag. but it's a technical term they would think you. were talking about our favorite subject with the leaks oh. this is arthur sulzberger was the publisher you. know and. we're just her you know going back to the writing life of my first. that was published this morning which is. a somewhat. half hearted defense of obama against. distant disenchanted liberals and you know what the drudge report is the drudge report is a website. very conservative website. that has for that basically aggregates headlines from all over the place but with

a kind of right wing commentary attached that it's got a huge fall so if matt drudge is the guy runs this web site. find something that you've written puts it on his home page with a snarky comment. it drives traffic amazingly i mean driving traffic is nice but the traffic he drives is mostly you know. you scumbag idiot but traffic is.

from google groups like you are surviving just to be a muslim or. look at the brixton. example when you see. nothing else that's got us kind of the side of. the law this is the significant go to death for us he didn't let them assume that it was him but of course. it's. different in secret the symbol. of a group modest effort indifferent to of all that he for they just need a gun. or she gets up and run. in the us to give him an ounce of what you are going to hear from a woman or. not talk about the personally attack to put i should come into you haven't been able to

cut the course of. this to simply look at the woman to put a good book it is possible to be another google it is music to discuss but. in the seventh delirium what good things because i know something to take the.

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