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no not evil what are they doing this movie is charging that it's ok i'm just saying in issue b. we need to be concerned that we're not going around places saying we're better than you are because i've had this situation and i fucked off in years to that this is what i don't like seeing this approach to the one where if you seem out of seeing that you you go to two people you know nothing there as you start talking to them this earlier we can extend then when they have or this is a strong reaction you're like strong reaction when they said it was the cables because they didn't only go to the first place it was no no you action or we've already you have you have quiet then you get a slightly different opinion then you don't get that you only get the response they want to get as opposed to show in the audience what they will say about these things but do you not think that it is an interesting question to see if media around the world will do this and who will and when i'm still working on thing well that is an interesting question if you can interesting question no two they are too
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scared to pull the u.s. government document in the morning with no more even if they see if there are many other great tears that missoni what what what part of what criteria are used the argument. interest newsworthiness you know now that you can write a script every news organization that has a website it has a website developer who can discuss. like that and they get free hits in google. is very very it is very very profitable to publish cables because you don't have to write cable it's free stories. the point as far as i see it is that. there are boundaries to free speech as in the same way as there are boundaries to our thoughts into our language and. when you speak when used to speak it is basically what we are dealing with and
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these boundaries they look differently in different countries but they are always exist in one way or another that is color your sense of or conformism or self-censorship or whatever it may be and we have a very unique opportunity to actually just show where these boundaries are doesn't necessarily mean that these boundary is better than that boundary right there with me as showing where i would have to look back down to that area but the thing is that people usually are annoyed with people or if you're unaware of where the boundaries are the easiest way of getting a hold of them is by asking about it and they will say well i cannot write about the king or kind of write about sex or whatever they are most often they're like well i'll tell you that there are only about most of you know we say well we have no boundaries whatsoever yes and this is what you will get when you interview any journalist in the united kingdom or in brazil or in sweden or ever yet so what we have here is the tools in actually catching these boundaries if you push any
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organization they will have boundaries and you're going to get qualified and why all of them including the one i lied. existing home. oh you know you. can come with me we discussing call me. what you'll see years for me. suspicious. from the guardian you got a paper that's been around nearly two hundred years. has completely sold his or hers for from its international paper it's at the forefront of digital innovation with doing something that is almost unique in times and there's no one else that looks towns. very much struck. that's just average
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that you're talking to me for a film. which is documented. we're going to make it is the story don't you see how we roll out. there this is not just me with all this is essentially your you don't agee you're right. yeah there are some big surprise off big audience we're going to. react to. the substantial. u.s. cables why did you go for example. that shaped. the u.s. government will say nations this week carol in the mafia buffy universe. the one lost. if you didn't see
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what was said why why did god do what i say another man of the got the darkness upside down who can speak more to my god i can guess i don't know i'm guess. not. to the moment cos i have seen book no longer being used extensively by people called. homophobia grow up. to protect her attention. to the slightest trace looks good. and so. that's some of these people all very rich and can send me millions on on five occasions. also when it's on the table bridge sit in on. it tell you if you.
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are ready. well record me souls you. see i was correct. so this is the case with more now attention and you will draw. a great britain you know what is the little good ole and curtains of the company can suit. to you and we will see. how many. you did with that tesco just in the two thousand case. doesn't prove it's not something that. could happen here we can all do easy easy and. good time cost time to do. that so that if the north or miss companies can see we
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popped. open area they were extremely interested in. an hour ago here. on the very state. i have to. run. but it was some i wasn't. the guy. we got. to. do extremely. well just. mocking him and. wondering mind was the name rough. it was the socket. for. the course and so i flipped all of this which meant that this rough. life. was the socket cable. from memory. we had kind of
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rubric i didn't. seriously so that we tried to explain what we were trying to buy and. why we. should sell. them you know from memory that said you know they're all in coaching or is that. among them an equal consideration. so. if your point is that we couldn't. be more explicit and explaining. why we would do things and. some nature didn't care for you. were you first of all i. got. you actually people are going to try to not. we haven't so it was decided that. the new york times would approach going across the room go
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separately we have. two sets of communication with you right into the room one is not the embassy in london a little. to see if you will we will do the very much because we need or is. a channel through to you. and the second channel was a little set up by the state. building agencies. run rate aim was to do just go. up and you can use. that afternoon you probably have seen either in person or on the t.v. screen as the. stage partly for that we just finished i won't repeat everything i
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said at the start they are but few of them. most significant response to what has happened is exactly what secretary clinton is doing in a stall or kazakhstan as we speak you know she is there working constructively on cooperation and security in a very important part of the world clearly the release of the unauthorized release of these documents you know. represents risk to the united states and to others with whom we collaborate. in this this is why we condemn what wiki leaks has to basically from kazakstan. right in through here. most as we did your graffiti in between i realize i'm going to be you as much as i really are there and i thought i. pulled the kind of.
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from two different countries where the police material has been have been published but there are only looking from the outside without actually having any particular knowledge about it you get the impression that all these various. private u.s. institutions. have acted. from being pressured in one way or another by the u.s. government in order to block or flows of money in order that's not true that that is you know this there are three times that is that is absolutely not true. in my time in government. at no time did government tell any private company what to do. i mean there's been rumors there's been suggestions of that and to be honest there's been no. evidence by those who question this you know it's with companies protect their own reputation it's not for the government to tell
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a company what it should or shouldn't do. you know they've taken actions because they they they see it as as in their interest to do this or that really how would you look at the affair the same thing were to have been through for example the new york times if in europe times were all of a sudden they're. stopped from giving funds and they would out of their offices close down i could you do it because paving a hypothetical that i can't follow being from harvard to go where they are in the exact same position as for example recruiting near a parent decides to publish everything that they get no i mean no but that there is a very sharp distinction here. i mean. you have two actors who are in the business of communicating with a broader public. one actor made clear the new york times and other publications we are going to report on what we have we want to do it responsibly
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and we want to do it in a way that. is is is respectful. of the danger that this might cause to specific individuals. and the new york times voluntarily withheld certain documents and certain names because they recognized as we did that the publication of these documents of publication these days it put real life human beings at risk. her. the problem is they come up very hard to make a plan to get a little money or a plot that never had sex with her make their lives let's
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play. lists lists le mieux lists lists about. the.
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new york post sent a very intrepid reporter down there to sleep overnight he spent thursday night in the chicago park i did live to tell about it what was it like it it was a scary place i mean zuccotti park right now is it is it's own country person here it's. tough queens right in queens you're not afraid of that stuff you went down there what what's up what is to the most about what was going on in zuccotti park what surprised me the most about what was going on there is that it's totally lawless you disguise yourself and you try to look like
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a protester were you going undercover worried you weren't advertising you were supposed to write one on one i spoke to people i told mine i was a post reporter there was no secret and had to be received. well. some people didn't really like that i was a poser of orders to be honest i don't very disturbing here though you write from your column from your article the threat of rape is very real here for men and women i just sleep at night i did it and see. if you could see me to be fair to say i had too many characters i paint canvas she'll be from your post thank you so much thank you thank you.
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i you know. very well and i also like i said once you start the interviews close the doors and don't come out. of it so it's general assembly at the u.n. and we. really. want to come. and see if the u.n. general assembly opens this week so there's. a lot of presidents and foreign ministers and stuff and some of them trip through here it really is the customer yeah. yeah that's pretty typical i mean when they're in town with some of them invite themselves and some of them we invite to come over and meet with the editorial writers and things. and how does it seem to work out. and roasting them are pretty predictable but every once in
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a while one of the makes news but it's you know it's good to just give them a chance to come over and hear their views yeah. we kind of makes you into an embassy or a for their the embassy of the new york times or a basically right. and i think you know you may have discovered this yourself or a news organizations don't always get the kind of access they would like to officials in washington and if you want to go ask the military or the white house to respond to classified information. you know. it can be difficult if you're if you're a representative of a foreign news organization i don't think that's a shame but it's just it's a reality so i think they felt. we would be in a better position to confront the administration with what we had and solicit some kind of reaction from them which which turned out to be the case and your counterpart was that mainly year p.j.
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crowley or some other people. over it that you know this is. the first couple of meetings i think they went over and had them in person and they were representatives of the state department ice assume the intelligence agencies were there i know the cia was represented. i'm not sure i just don't remember that the military was there. because at that point it was mostly nonmilitary matters. after that after the first couple of conversations they just had a daily phone call basically. they did it all they wanted to there was none of this everybody gathered in a room that was they would say we really think you. should hold back this particular cable and here's why and then we would discuss and decide whether to withhold it or not. and many of the countries where we have been traveling and they're. talking to be the editors of politicians there has been
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a concern that. these materials can have a destabilizing effect and that in a particular country would you consider. the consequences of publishing that we considered it yeah we talked about it a lot i mean yemen is a good example of that because the state department's argument was this this these could be destabilizing. but i kind of think it's not our job to decide what is destabilizing and or for that matter to preserve the stability of. countries elsewhere and if you feel that you would have acted differently had the material been of such character that it would have potentially destabilized your country rather than. syria you mentioned it it's hard for me to imagine what that would be i mean would you have to have an example or a few years ago yet to see that wireless what weren't let's wire tapping right yes i mean can you explain how you reasoned at that point in time when you didn't
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publish the material for publish them or when i did publish the first one when you did didn't at first and then i when i didn't publish them. but the concern with it wasn't whether it would destabilize our government because certain was whether or not it would be of significant value to people who want to attack us. had it been your choice. and if you were the sole on there as of this material you would not have published them the whole thing that oh. you know first of all because there are. you know. in the documents that we posted. we redacted many names of people whose would have been put in danger. we have not. studied all of the documents to know how many more people might be put in danger to
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just post the whole thing would be i think you're responsible and let's say with every dime to the names of those who would have been in danger and published it on your site would that be something which would be. probably not. but we had up we had cited how we were going to publish how we were going to have the material you know regardless of legal consequences just on journalistic grounds . you know we only wanted to publish we only wanted to do you need the room. yeah. you need me or the rip. off. i was dense and you hear a gram but then i heard you were in here. have just had the highest pledge like that oh yes it made the drudge report so i'm getting some so i'm getting a lot of traffic with the crew but i drafted to support me much though but you know they got a traffic you got the kind of traffic you necessarily what because
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a lot of a lot of people who use the word scumbag. it's a technical term they would think you. were talking about our favorite subject wiki leaks oh. this is arthur sulzberger was the publisher you. know and. we were just girl you know i was going back to the writing life for my first. it was published this morning which is. a somewhat. half hearted defense of obama against. distant disenchanted liberals and you know what the drudge report is the drudge report is a website. very conservative website. that has for that basically aggregates headlines from all over the place but with a kind of right wing commentary attached that it's got
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a huge problem so if matt drudge is the guy runs this web site. find something that you've written puts it on his home page with a snarky comment. it drives traffic amazingly i mean driving traffic is nice but the traffic that he drives is mostly you know. you scumbag idiot but traffic is. group of snide remarks or right just to be assume or. look at the groups to be
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clear to him. when you see. on stuff that's kind of the kind of the writer. or the others is this significant a death threat he's going to let them assume that it was him but of course. if you're different in secret the symbol. of appropriate modest effort into the show of all the chief i just need a gun. or she gets up and stuff. if the us sitting there announces what we're doing is we're going to hear from a member. of the minute the personally attack to put i felt is that come into it would have been able to cut the possible with. this disapproval good movement to put
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a good book it is possible. to be another cuba who it is music to dispense with. in the same delirium what good things because some going to take the.
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be berland social science center just published a study suggesting that key thirds of muslims in western europe hold their religious rules and follow the laws of the countries that believe that if you read the bible if you get if you go into christianity you find the sentence that you should obey god more than caesar. that means the religious schools are more important and more convincing those of the statements of the very same thing that is now referred to the muslims.
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anti-government protesters violently dispersed by riot police in istanbul after a corruption scandal shakes up turkey's ruling elite. a federal judge in new york declares the n.s.a.'s bulk collection of phone data to be lawful directing directly contradicting a court opinion from washington d.c. that mass surveillance violates the constitution. the reporter who broke the edward snowden leaks lashes out at fellow journalists at a hackers conference in germany for giving government an easy ride and failing to put the spotlight on official wrongdoing. plus as more than one hundred fifty detainees at guantanamo bay prepare to enter another year without charge or due process.

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