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story. the point as far as i see it is that. there are boundaries to free speech as in the same way as there are boundaries to our thoughts into our language media. means people in use to speak it is basically what we are dealing with and these boundaries that look differently in different countries but they are always exist in one way or another that's color your sense of or conformism or self-censorship or whatever it may be and we have a very unique opportunity to actually just show where these boundaries are doesn't necessarily mean that these boundary is better than that boundary they're really showing where i just feel bad about it that there is but the thing is that people usually are annoyed with people or if you're unaware of where the boundaries are the easiest way of getting a hold of them is by asking about it and it was
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a well i cannot write about the king kind of write about sex or whatever they are most often they were like well i'll tell you that there are only about most of you know we say well we have no boundaries whatsoever yes and this is what you will get when you interview any journalist in the united kingdom or in brazil or in sweden or order it yet so what we have here is the tools in actually catching these boundaries if you push any organization they'll have boundaries and you're going to get one are right why all of them including the one i lied. just be home. oh you know you. can come with me because just because we know what you'll see it's for pretty. suspicious. that the guardian you got
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a paper that's been around nearly two hundred years. has completely sold his or hers for from its international trade it's at the forefront of digital innovation with doing something that is almost unique in times and there's no one else that looks. very much talk that. much that's just average that you're talking to me for a film. which is documented. we're going to do there's the story don't you see how we roll out. there this is not just me that would kill me so this is essentially your you don't agee you're right. yeah i'm sorry i'm being surprised off big audience we're going to. react to. the substantial. u.s.
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cables that why did you go for example. that star shaped. the u.s. government able to nation to me carol when the mafia bucky gotti first. one was. exceeding the more balls so why did you go with what i say the other night of the got the documents up so i can't. speak more jane i don't know i think i can guess i don't know i'm guess. not. the the mother calls i have been called the mound of been used extensively by people called. in the former soviet rule. to protect. the slightest trace
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what's good for them so. some of these people on board rich can send me millions on on five occasions. also when it's on their little table bridge sit in on. the telly and if you. are ready. well record me souls. to see. so this is a case of. now ok you will draw. a great britain you know what is the loophole and curtains of the company can suit . to you and we will see no company.
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with that pesky. two thousand case that. doesn't preclude us not something that. could happen here we go to an easy easy and. good time cost time to do. that so that the norbert and his company can see we thought. ok area they were extremely interested in. an hour ago here. on the creation of every state. i have to. but it was some. big idea we got. to. do. all. of a mocking them and it will come. one day remind me just in
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a rough. it was the socket. for. the fourth and so i flipped all of this which meant that this rough. life. was the subject of a. pro memory. we had kind of grouper it begin. series where we sit and we try to explain what we were trying to write. why we. commemorate that so that you know they're all in coaching for you so. among them an equal consideration. so. if your point is that couldn't. be more explicit and explaining. why we do things and. some nature you know
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or you. were you first of all i. got. if you will they're going to try to not. we. so it was decided that. the new york times would approach government bryant the memorandum said we have. two sets of communication with you right and one is not the embassy in london a little. to see if you will we will do the very much because we need or it. channel through you. and the second channel was a little set up but it's that old agencies. run rate aim was to do just go. into any.
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good afternoon you probably have seen either in person or on the t.v. screens the. state party thing that we just finished i won't repeat everything i said at the start they are but few of them. most significant response to what has happened is exactly what secretary clinton is doing in a stall or kazakhstan as we speak you know she is there working constructively on cooperation and security in a very important part of the world clearly the release of the authorized release of these documents you know. represents risk to the united states and to others with whom we collaborate. this this is why we condemn what
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wiki leaks has done basically from kazakstan. right in through here. most actually did your grocery in between i realize i'm going to be you as much as i really are there and i thought i. pulled the kind of or. from two different countries where the police material has been have been published but they're only looking from the outside without actually having any particular knowledge about it you get the impression that all these various. prior to us institutions. have acted. from being pressured in one way or another by the u.s. government in order to block or flows of money in order that's not true that is you know in the lizard's rate i mean that is that is absolutely not true. in my time in
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government. at no time did government tell any private company what to do. i mean they've been really there's been suggestions of that and to be honest there's been no. evidence by those who question this you know it's with companies protect their own reputation it's not for the government to tell a company what it should or shouldn't do. you know they've taken actions because they they they see it as as in their interest to do this or that with a one hundred look at their fear the same thing were to have been through for example the new york times if the new york times were all of a sudden. stopped from getting funds and they without their offices closed down i think you can paving a hypothetical and i can follow brain from harvard to go where they are in the exact same position as for example recordings near a parent decides to publish everything that they get no i mean no but that there is
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a very sharp distinction here. i mean. you have two actors who are in the business of communicating with a broader public. one after made clear the new york times and other publications we are going to report on what we have we want to do it responsibly and we want to do it in a way that. is is it respectful. of the danger that this might cause to specific individuals and the new york times voluntarily withheld certain documents and certain names because they recognized as we did that the publication of these documents of publication these days would put real life human beings at risk.
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of her said imports came from illegal fishing and. the european union is ironically taking fish from some of the poorest nations on earth so this is a very serious and very urgent problem that needs immediate international action. but they are territorial waters they fish they load this fish into the ships and leave for europe. to day illegal fishing just taking the bread out of our mouths.
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so true for the twenty fourth jeanne olympic what's this boy's life. is so special as the russian resort prepares to welcome the world power the games should be in the city's present and future. so it will bring you this is the moment they're reporting from a very cold snowy windy mountainous. beyond the olympics. but
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your coach sent a very intrepid reporter down there to sleep overnight he spent thursday night in the chicago park i did live to tell about it what was it like. it was a scary place i mean zuccotti park right now is it is it's own country person you're tough queens girl right in queens you're not afraid of the stuff you want to down there what what's up what is you the most about what was going on it's a party. what surprised me the most about what was going on there is that it's totally lawless you disguise yourself did you try to look like a protester were you going undercover worried you weren't advertising you would post right one on one i spoke to people i told mine i was a post reporter there was no secret and had to be received. well. some people didn't really like that i was a poster of orders to be honest i'm very disturbed here though you write from your
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column from your article the threat of rape is very real here for men. in women i just sleep the night i did it and see. if you could be made to be ok see i had so many cats as a pain can still be from your post thank you so much thank you thank you. live i think i know what. they are so like i said once you start the interview is closed the door isn't coming. it's out it's general assembly.
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the u.n. and we. really. want to come to. the u.n. general assembly opens this week so there's. a lot of presidents and foreign ministers and stuff and some of them trip through here to brazil is that customer yeah yeah it's pretty typical in there in town with some of them invite themselves and some of them we invite to come over and meet with the. editorial writers and things. and how does it seem to work out. and released in the pretty predictable that every once in a while one of the makes news but it's you know it's good to just give them a chance to come over and hear their views that. kind of makes you into an embassy or. they're the embassy of the new york times or a basically right. and i think you know you may have discovered this yourself or a news organizations don't always get the kind of access they would like to
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officials to wash. and if you want to go ask the military or the white house to respond to classified information. you know. it can be difficult if you're if you're a representative of a foreign news organization i don't think that's a shame but it's just it's a reality so i think they felt. we would be in a better position to confront the administration with what we had and solicit some kind of reaction from them which which turned out to be the case and your counterpart was that ninety year p.j. crowley or some other people. over it you know this is. the first couple of meetings i think they went over and had them in person and they were representatives of the state department is assume the intelligence agencies were there i know the cia was represented. i'm not sure i just don't remember
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whether the military was there. because at that point it was mostly nonmilitary matters. after that after the first couple of conversations they just had a daily phone call basically. they did it all you know there was none of this everybody gathered in a room it was that they would say we really think you should hold back on this particular cable and here's why and then we would discuss and decide whether to withhold it or not. and many of the countries where we've been traveling and they're. talking to be the editors or politicians there has been a concern that. these materials can have a destabilizing effect and that in a particular country when you consider. the consequences of not publishing them we considered it yeah we talked about it a lot i mean yemen is a good example of that because the state department's argument was this this these
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could be destabilizing. but i kind of think it's not our job to decide what is destabilizing and or for that matter to preserve the stability of. countries elsewhere but do you feel that you would have acted differently had the material been of such character that it would have potentially destabilized your country rather than. you've mentioned it it's hard for me to imagine what that would be i mean you had to have an example or a few years ago yes see that wireless what weren't let's wire tapping right yes i mean if you can explain how you reasoned at that point in time when you didn't publish them in a different post that were when i did publish the first one when you didn't at first and then i would i didn't publish them. but the concern with it wasn't whether it would destabilize our government because certainly was whether or not it would be of significant value to people who want to attack us.
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had it been your choice. and if you were in this old owners of this material you would not have published. the whole thing that oh. you know first of all because there are. you know. in the documents that we posted. we redacted many names of people who would have been put in danger. we have not. studied all of the documents to know how many more people might be put in danger to just post the whole thing would be i think irresponsible. and let's say with every dime that the names of those who would have been in danger and published it all on your side would that be something which would be indicted will. probably not. but we had up we had cited how we were going to publish how we were going to have
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the material you know regardless of. legal consequences just on journalistic grounds. you know we only wanted to publish we only wanted do you need the room. yep. you need me here the. most wrong. i didn't send you here but then i heard you were in here. i just feel this i'm glad you like that oh yes it made the drudge report so i'm getting some so we're getting a lot of traffic to prove it on traffic to support your life though but now that you've got a traffic you've got the kind of traffic you necessarily what because a lot of a lot of people who use the word scumbag. but it's a technical term they would think you. were talking about our favorite subject wiki leaks oh. this is arthur sulzberger was the publisher you.
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know and. we were i'd just go you know going back to the writing life for my first op that was published this morning which is. a somewhat. half hearted defense of obama against. distant disenchanted liberals and you know what the drudge report is in the trade report is a website. very conservative website. that has for that basically aggregates headlines from all over the place but with a kind of right wing commentary attached that it's got a huge problem so if matt drudge is the guy runs this website. find something that you've written puts it on his home page with a snarky comment. it drives traffic amazingly i mean driving traffic is nice
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but the traffic that he drives is mostly you know. you scumbag idiot but traffic just. like you are surviving just to be a muslim or. look at the bricks through clear example that you see. on stuff that's got us kind of the side of. the law this is the significant go to death for the city to let them assimilate into
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a symbol of course. is. different in that you see from the some of. the ethical modest effort in the book to show you of all the need for they just need a gun. or she gets up and. in the us it's every man around so what we're doing is we're going to be i'm a member of. the talk about the personally attack to put i felt is that come into it will enable us to cut the course of a. good movement to put a book. it is possible. to be another google it is music to discuss with. him the seminal delirium what good things because some village.
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