tv [untitled] January 8, 2014 9:00pm-9:31pm EST
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he's an american business icon whose brazen outspokenness is always at the top of the headlines his disgust with politicians is led him to consider a run for president himself a love of already that he can make or break someone's future with two words you're fired. the one and only donald trump is next on politic a little larry king. on the ticket with larry king one of my favorite people of all time the stomach trump we go back a long long way i have to tell you we usually have a major problem let's go right into it were it by the way it trumped all of the top of his building overlooking his city every way a look trump lots of things to talk about chris he's made some amazing acquisitions
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one of which on time the person involved with get to that later will get a government shutdown what's your take well it's a mess larry i mean the whole country is being scoffed at in left ed and we're not doing well as a country as you know we will no longer be the great economic power in two thousand and sixteen and as you know china will be replacing us if we keep going the way we're going which looks like inevitable and we're a different place than you and i remember well we've done all our interviews that i cherish and that i saved i don't save too many but i always say being interviewed by larry king and we're not the same country. one thing i don't understand i know you're a great critic of the press or but let's fact the fact we passed a health care law right the supreme court upheld it right and the republicans don't want to fund it well it's a law that really has to be that's true in the law it's still your l.a. and i understand where you're coming from but it is something that's turning out to
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be very negative it's having a huge negative impact on business so really is happening and i guess that's what is going to happen one way or the other i don't see this getting them to the end but i fully understand what the republicans are doing and i actually respect them for it and i really like the wall street journal it's a major mistake well out of jobs out of the golden well let's see how it happens lots of strange things happen larry let's see what happens in the end but they are very committed to killing obamacare obamacare is a very look i have friends that have without going into deep anything or deep studies and we can do that to one is not turning out too good for obamacare but i have friends that have businesses hiring only part time people now ok only part time people because they get out of obligations by doing that i have friends that closing down businesses because of obamacare i mean obamacare is turning out to be a disaster so people see this some people thought it when it was passed a lot of it is that the who got it we don't we need some sort of health law i think you do any such thing and you need something good i think you can actually have
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something much better than obamacare and for a lot less money you know other countries we're not we don't have great health care in this country and yet we spend two and three times more than other countries and never have a national health plan if we've never had good health care in this country frankly but you know we're spending the most money by far and we don't have the best health care so that's not so good but it's not so good to ship them and so i'm coming with a shouting a delicacy what happens let's going to be interesting hey i'm watching just like you i do respect the fact that they are very committed to it they're taking a lot of heat will see what happens but everybody's from the obama's committed to a moment if you like commitment he's committed he would certainly. i think that he's not going to end it that's what they want so it's a tough it's a very tough situation for the country and it's somewhat embarrassing for the country on both papar on both sides you have whether it's republican or democratic i mean it's not a good solid you think this is going to last. well i said it was going to happen most people said it would never happen i've been predicting it was going to happen
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but it has happened before you know on numerous occasions many occasions it's happened so this isn't the first time but i made a prediction a few weeks ago and everyone said no way would they ever let the shutdown happen and it has happened i think it could build for a while i mean some people have a bigger thing coming along you have the debt ceiling coming and that almost is going to blend is how well it's going to be interesting to see how long this less rate goes in a couple of weeks there isn't your hero increase that fourth thing to write this right he increased the debt ceiling about obama your hero voted out my initial are rising and i know that voted against increasing you know what he was a senator he voted against increasing the debt ceiling lot of people don't know that but but he wants to increase and president obama hey look isn't it pitching everybody's pitching their pitching for ever they believe but larry president obama voted against increasing the debt so you know that when he was a senator when he was just said now you want to do it now he's saying how can you possibly do that a lot of it even the other side when i get an office while he was in office he was
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a senator he voted against war but he called it by the sins of missiles right he voted against war he got the peace prize. the whole strange thing going on has there but we're out of iraq which you do got you were strong critic of george bush i was on critic a look i'm a republican but i was a very strong critic of george bush absolutely and i think iraq was a disaster and it's proved to be a disaster it's in total turmoil now iran is going to take it over they have this tremendous and you know i took a lot of heat i said you go you know the old a year for the war and to the victor belong the spoils right well we fought a war in iraq and what happened what happened to us we got nothing i said take the oil reserves are there so terrible to say take the oil so now who's going to get the oil rush is getting the oil china is getting the oil and iran is getting the oil and we spent one point five trillion and thousands of lives the house stoop. the way your very confident person i am i have you ever said the use of you know him meant going i was wrong and should know where you went too far on the obama
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birth that maybe i i don't think you know it did you ever say i was mistaken what i like to say that i do like to learn i do you know you always look everybody makes mistakes learn from your mistakes if you don't learn from your mistake then you're a stupid person but i do like learning from things that maybe i would have done a different way a lot of times you're not really wrong you know wrong is a hard word because you could be sort of right or sort of a little bit wrong but you have to learn from whatever it is you're talking about did you learn from your wrong us from your midst i think over the years you know it's called experience i think over the years you learn from experience later you're the you're the financial guy you're the businessman why explain to the layman why the debt ceiling is important well i happen to think the debt ceiling is a good thing a lot of people don't think we should have a debt ceiling in this country i happen to think because it keeps a lid on expenses it keeps a lid on borrowing money we're borrowing trillions of dollars from china and other
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people that don't even like us ok this china is not our friend just in case you have any questions i don't think you think they are anyway but look they're hardened. people leaders that are not looking to do good for us to look in to do good for themselves and that's ok for their country or for themselves i'm not sure which one probably a little bit of both but china and other countries and lots of other people we have a tremendous debt with seventeen trillion dollars a number that was unthinkable you do have a debt ceiling because they don't want to go above a certain amount now the thing should have been looked at in all fairness during the bush administration and certainly during the obama administration because it's going through the roof and i am a fan of the debt ceiling i think you do want to keep a lid on it but they've totally lost control or totally lost control so or to they do well they have to cut expenses i mean you have to cut expenses and you have to run things more efficiently we're not running efficiently as a gun from you have a job on expenses you may like dispenses on the military and he made the expenses
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on social but that's what leadership is all about the leader the president has to get everybody into a room and let's work it out there's no talk they all hate each other you know larry these are people that really hate each other when is it all we were kids they did well you know they keep talking about tip o'neill who i thought was a great guy by the way a lot of ronald reagan who i thought was one of the greats they were great friends but they got along they would sit down like you and i and they had different philosophies but weary they would get they would go into a room and sometimes in ten minutes come out with a solution oh what led to this sense of well you have different personalities you think it's part racial i don't personally i don't think so but a lot of people do a lot of people think it's racial and it could very well be i don't think so i think that the president has to look he is the ultimate leader in the group and he's got to get people into the room you know when he played golf with speaker boehner i thought that was
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a great thing people said oh they wanted me to say was negative i said it's positive they should play all the time they don't get along and they don't have and maybe they get along. they don't have that report that you're talking about with tip o'neill and reagan and somehow if they don't you know you have a big thing coming up very soon and that's going to be the debt ceiling and that's bigger than this and what are they going to do they can't work this out what's going to happen in a few weeks from now so the country is being run by people that don't like each other that don't respect each other and if one says. two and two is four somebody else is going to say it's really not in your dealings in life you've had to deal with people like us you have to sign off on agreements you have to get allies i made many deals with people they don't like and you try and figure the people out you study the people you learn you you do what you have to do you get something done and ultimately you want to make the right deal the good deal now in the case
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of the two of them in particular the two of them because you also have a thing called the senate but they seem to be flagging along but in the case of these two you know we really have to have somebody that wants for the good of the country now someone who runs a boat early think they would both well ultimately it's not just the deal it's for the good of the country you see any figure on the horizon who could rise above this and a great figure and a great political figure since it's a little bit soon to say and in terms of twenty sixteen is going to be very interesting it's probably going to be somebody that you're not even thinking about right not even though you may not have even heard of the trump you know so many people ask me that question and so many people want me to do it but what i want to avoid rose and the once we were very close you you were on our show i was like you know what i was going to announce really i was thinking about it larry i have a great business i love doing it it's my passion it's my product built look at buildings like this i mean i do it really well nobody does it better i just poured
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doral in miami it's ideal for a reality i am see the opening of door oh well it's eight hundred acres in my. yeah me and a friend of the old post office on pennsylvania wrote about was willing so many different things we're doing this oic said the apprentice continues to be great and you don't want to run for oh well i'd rather not but i also want this country to be great again and this country is not it's going the wrong direction so why not run a taser i'll see what it was you had all these business success what more do you mean i understand that what happened is first of all you have an election coming up in fourteen which will see and i'm going to help some people that are good people both in artie's. probably not to be afs i have a you know pretty conservative view on things and probably not but i'll be helping some people and we'll see after fourteen and i'll make a decision will you make of the mayor or us what's interesting you know i like baikal bloomberg very much he's a friend of mine i think it's been
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a very very excellent mare i think we're lucky to have had him and it's going to be interesting the race i think is going to be a little bit closer that people think but look they're both out there doing their thing you're going to support the republican guy always support the republicans you just said one of the most important primaries for successful negotiation is respect for the of a side the right you see that changing well they don't respect each other and may be even worse they don't like each other and the and i'm not just talking about the two i'm talking about almost everybody you see the democrats get on and say things about republicans like they've never said before and you see the republicans likewise it's a mess with him it's really where leadership comes in larry you've got to get them together when you make of senator cruz of texas well he did something that was very predictable in terms of the outcome because at twelve o'clock the following day was the gavel goes down and get off the stage and now we'll get down to our business and do whatever we have to do so a lot of people think that it was not a good thing for the republicans but possibly a good thing for him he got
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a lot of publicity people who never heard of him though already have zoom in john mccain there are a lot of hours ago there are a lot of people look the problems the republicans have in terms of winning this battle larry in my opinion this split if they were all unified and if they were saying we are going out and we're staying out at one hundred percent and you had that great you know unity they could actually win but as the saying my way of the highway i'm just saying if everybody had that he's already aware and i understand that but if everybody was unified like senator mccain came out the other day and said we can't win we can't win that's a terrible expression but he said we can't win i supported him but he said i support. when he ran but he said we can't win meaning through republicans can't win that's a hell of a statement to make and it's not exactly good for us and is very good you know it emboldens the other side so that was a very it was dishonest and i say this if the republicans stuck together with their absolutely not doing they could actually went but they can't win with half of them
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saying we shouldn't be doing this there for them doesn't agree with the other that they already want to do in order to get victory you have to be unified and they're not unified we'll have more with our friend donald trump we'll talk about some of his business items you mentioned a few will get to the plate a couple some more political things on politicking with larry king or at trump tower in new york don't go away. we'll. technology innovations all the developments from around russia. the future are covered. under the new. policy so there's a. pleasure
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the people. were bad would donald trump when he made the rand paul i don't know i'm certainly different i really don't know enough about him to say but it's certainly a different to a lesser as only you do know who chris christie right when you do get it i like him i mean he's been a friend of mine for a long time you don't know he's going to win he's going to run he may run i think he's going to be real like i think he's going to a big election in new jersey and he's going to be elected by a tremendous amount and you know chris has been a friend of mine for a long time i know chris probably better than anybody and i like him a lot i'm never as sure opinion on this but me fascinating the interest this could be dangerous gay marriage right. well i have stated that i'm for traditional
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marriage and. that is a view that's been changing rapidly over the years you know if you look at your loses and. i guess i'm one of fifty fifty said right now what i'm going to do what it's going the other way there's no question about that larry it's going the other way you think it's going to is going to happen. i mean well i see more and more actually you know i well i'm for traditional marriage i see more and more republicans actually coming out in favor and you know by the way i was years ago the president was for traditional you know the right to chide turned the tide is turning on that issue there's no question about it when you make it as hillary clinton but i think she's going to run well i think all new yorker and i know her very well the members of my club and i'd like both of them very much and he was with you one time and he said he likes me and always over that stuff and i do like a looks a long time to go like you say about me and just say about others it's a long time you have a big health question will she be healthy i hope she's healthy now i think she is
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but you know that's a long time you have to wait till the fourteen is over and then you have to go out and really we always think you know in america well you always have to think about health and i think that subject to that or some crazy thing happening in lots of crazy things can happen she has the nomination practically wrapped up would seem to me but it was how's your oh so far so good to have you have a series of no i haven't was would have we're not we're not going your wit to. i have not been lucky in that we bless one for russia's vladimir putin madam up the putin and me up at new york times offering advice about syria you called it tough and amazingly well written it was well raju an admirer of the russians well you know for one thing i'm having the miss universe contest on november ninth which i own over in moscow it's going to be really live from moscow all over the world so you know i know something about russia i know great city a lot of russians it's an amazing city i think he's done a really have
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a great job of outsmarting our country when he gave the lifeline to president obama well it was a lifeline and good for obama because it got off the hook because the last thing he should have done at that point was go in it was the craziest thing you can use imagine general douglas macarthur talking about war and saying. well you know we're going to think about it maybe we'll drop bombs in about a week and a half and with a note political if the public suppose that what happened there really surprise you know leadership ok and by the way we should've never done it in the first place ok i was against it from day one i. know you have enough problems in this country who turns out assad to back down and now that having inspections we're all winners oh no but putin taking over because assad now makes it assad you know six months ago we had no chance according to the great geniuses that you watch on television had no chance his regime was going to fall his regime now is one hundred percent russia has now taken over syria politically speaking my are they doing that it's not
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a question of admire i think he's done a very smart job i thought the letter was well crafted very well crafted and i think he's done a very smart job because it was all about syria and while he got president obama off the hook by getting them off the hook he took over syria and assad survives well you agree with that well obviously but i think if all's well that ends well it depends on how do you want it if you want to bring people in boy if you wanted to take over syria which some people thought you know we should have for some reason i'm not sure that i agree with them but if you voted for that then it was a total disaster because they lost you take over syria then the result you should be having yes but then what are we doing and volved in the first place in a sense ok you know we've been involved for a long time trying to do that and then of course then he used the weapons and they were horrible or or somebody has the weapons probably him it all there is a the public the american public is tired of war totally tired of war we should hey look you know better than him but i was against this iraqi war it's
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a disaster what's what's gone over there and those people are living worse than they've ever lived before and you're going to have guys taking over who are to make saddam hussein look like a nice person ok so you know and the one that will win will be the one that hates this country our country the most so what it what have we done with all of the money and all of the. lives we've done nothing we've gotten nothing from that except grief you like obama talking to the new man around i think it's great that he talks to him i don't think he should be as a few so of that he's so happy that they're talking you know because when he talked it was like oh he talked to me he talked to me you know he's the president of united states i think it's great that he talks to him though i think that we should be talking to people when he goes it is welcome to the last guy i mean it if you know what it's not weakness you can talk and not be weak there or they were afraid oh they'll talk or unity all time talk or write you know more about this subject but i think it's great that they talk and that's a positive not a negative view of the general you one of them is joe yes i'm an artist i think so
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i've been i'm a guarded up to miss because i know how vicious the world can be. ok. who's going to be baby they knocked out the guy from harvard grad school well they think janet yellen will be and you like her i know nothing about her other than she wants to keep interest rates low i really know nothing about her but she's a big believer in low interest rates at least during a bad economy which is what we're does it matter who chairs the fed yes i think it does because they said an interest rate policy and unless their board goes against them which is unlikely they said a policy that's very important interest rates are very important in terms of this country so it does matter i think the respect of the financial world to getting the right person it i think it's a very important position some call the current congress do nothing and pass fewer bills into law than any previous congress since one thousand nine hundred forty and this is a we cango it's not a question of week it's a question that nobody gets along they can't they can't sit down in the same room
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with each other and agree to pass anything so i don't know if i'd call that weak or stubborn or something wrong but they did pass recently not this but lest they did pass obamacare which is one hell of a thing to pest and a not for the good reaction to spitzer's defeat re surprise of that well i was a little because his polls were so high at the beginning and he spent so much money . he turned out to be a very strange guy i mean how a guy he ran for governor he was a disgrace and bad governor oh he was the one who is a very bad a.g. because he you know he if you take a look at a. tens of billions of dollars was put into that company greenberg because of hank greenberg being thrown out and he should have been thrown out and i don't even i'm not a friend of hank greenberg but he was amazing at what he did and he was thrown out of the company because of eliot spitzer the government that was there i think the biggest single expenditure was a i.g. insurance ok that was the single biggest expense you had hank greenberg been
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allowed to say you would have had to give ten cents to a i.g. not ten cents eliot spitzer was a disaster as the a.g. and he was obviously turned out to be a disaster as governor. but you may have a whole amping rainer thing where he's a pervert there's no question that you know he's a pervert i mean with which is a crude were we well know he really is i mean is a sick person now here's a guy that they call him and he goes and the public sort of for a gave enough that he was actually leading in a poll and close another poster right and i couldn't believe it and then he did it again he did the whole thing again. the tweeting or whatever the hell he was doing and i said can you believe it and then he went down like a rocket ship ok so but he's a sick person and a guy like he'll always do it. and i can only give his wife a little bit of advice get out of their fans because it's not going to change you know these perverts when you're that way it doesn't change the law to speak up
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they'll cover what a court brings a voice but i don't like it much anyways i'm more of the old post office yes and one of my favorite building right is one of the great until a hole so yes we're going to build a super luxury hotel and what is there any children any is working very hard on that one out and so then you have you read between as you know right between the white house and all of our friends from congress i guess you could call it the troops i'm going to call trump international hotel and it's the old post office very famous building to keep the old post it was a built in the eight oh yes we're going to keep the name built in the eighteen hundreds an amazing building and when i lived in miami there was the door i'll be choto and they open the door oh photo and country club i am see that opening well that's a lot of homes and dignitaries and now you all know that i own it and it's going to be the trunk of a rousing it's under construction right now and you re doing it i've blown up the gulf with the blue monster the famous blue monster where tiger woods won last year and all great players and they have the seventy best players in the world and then sends a very little it up and yeah it's going to be called trump national darrelle and
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. last time was a new alert animation scripts scare me a little bit in the evening. there is breaking news tonight and we are continuing to follow the breaking news lead alexander's family cry tears of joy at it great things out there that there had to be adequate red dark and a quarter of a wall around all the lands there's a story made sort of movies playing out in real life. little. little. little.
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to. the the. look. what's up people i'm out in martin in this break in the set so yesterday we devoted our entire show their goal is to try to pine ridge reservation in south dakota but it simply wasn't enough and so tonight we'll continue to explore one of the most important and under reported issues in america today the abysmal failure by the federal government to uphold centuries old treaties in the avenues that the soup people are taking on power themselves and build a sustainable future and let's break the said. the the look it was a. very hard to take. to get. one he ever had sex with her right there. little.
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the black hills of south dakota contains some of the oldest mountains in the world it's an area of five thousand square miles that have been held sacred to the lakota people for hundreds of years nine hundred sixty eight the us government signed the fort laramie treaty which granted sovereignty the native residents and prevented outside settlers from ever occupying the land however this all changed in eight hundred seventy four when gold was discovered miners flooded the area in just under a decade the us government had taken near full control of the black hills fast
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forward a century to one thousand nine hundred eighty when a landmark supreme court decision granted one hundred six million dollars in the suv for both damages and ownership of the land but tribal leadership refused to entertain the notion that the black hills could be bought with interest the offer by the us now sits in a trust and it's worth over a billion dollars and although there are rumors of potential negotiations happening nearly every single tribe member i spoke to was adamant the black hills are not for sale for western minds it's kind of hard to grasp why the second most economically devastated community in the country would turn down a billion dollars so i sought to find out why. you're going richer souls are our ceremonies all of the earth water boy and. everything you know coexist on the earth here where we're related to and everything that is comes from the black hills the black hills.
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