it'll debate real discussion critical issues facing them you know ready to join the movement then while they are. happy to say y'all i'm at a martin and this is break and sets are at our right so i'm starting to think that with a pedia is funded by the same people who bankroll fox news just to get you up yesterday i talked about how wicked pedia had deleted two separate pages someone had submitted about me because apparently i wasn't noteworthy enough to deserve text on the site my old beef is that sacred wiki admins solely rely on corporate media sources to back up information about a subject validity and thus what's considered outside the realm of the stablish media isn't considered notable enough even though according to alexa commercial web

site tracker r t dot com the sits at number three ninety two in popularity far surpassing the traffic of b.b.c. dot com and the l.a. times book challenging the sources cited on any given page and even removing pages entirely based on these rules i can understand but then today i woke up to the news that the admins on wikipedia and not just deleted my page but have moved to actually banned any future attempts for users to recreate it seriously take a look at this from vision as in the thread on their site as you can see the latest move by an admin named john reeves yesterday made an edit to block all non admin users to recreate my page indefinitely wow even if this isn't personal and at the very least this is obviously a decision based on personal bias and if you agree that personal bias shouldn't be allowed to deter the flow of information and access to knowledge then join me and let's break the set. of the.

games. very hard to think that. you can. do that or act like that here right there the. last week al qaeda militants took control of the iraqi cities of ramadi and fallujah after days of nonstop violence according to independent iraqi news agency

brock three hundred seventy people have died in just the last ten days all about numbers hard to verify considering how bodies are not being taken to the morgue and instead excluded from official death counts not you may remember fallujah as one of the primary deadly battleground during the height of the u.s. occupation so what is the fall of the city signify for not only the progress of iraq but the region as a whole joining me now to discuss is eugene career nater for the answer coalition thank you so much for coming on metal thank you so much for having me so you jeanne what the main factors that are contribute to the near failed state of iraq today well i think the key factor that we have to mention is that the occupation of iraq by the united states fundamentally destabilize the country the united states just completely disassembled the iraqi state as it existed and not only didn't really put anything in place but actually set up a structure which made it sort of bit official for forces to become more at the serial to divide along sectarian and other sorts of lines of what we're seeing now is the real fruits of all of these time bombs land mines that were set by the u.s.

occupation all coming to fruition all at the same. we saw two thousand and thirteen one of the most deadliest years over eight thousand people died in iraq and i think this situation of pollution the body is very related to that horrific and i think it seems like you know a lot of people that comes to their head when they hear the word because of course travesty after a travesty during the height of the occupation we heard that as one of the main heller's of the war why are cities like fallujah and ramadi so bloody specifically in those cities yes and i think that's something that really resonates the americans actually a former neighbor of mine died the battle for lucia but really fluid in rwanda in particular are in areas of the country that saw some of the heaviest fighting where forces who preview who felt essentially disempowered by the regime and there have been actually a peaceful protest movement have been going on for some time in this area of the country that the iraqi government the current government had suppressed but this era of the country is an area where a number of people have felt disaffected from the political process that was put in

place by the u.s. occupation and continued after that and so of course there's been a very significant fight between wall the one hand the government looking to suppress protesters who had been against the current political setup and on the other hand between. militants and the residents of these cities with these forces trying to impose their way of life on these individuals in a very violent manner do you think that the u.s. military actually paying the insurgents to not kill them during the troop withdrawal was the only thing pretty much preventing pollution from falling sooner no i don't really think that was necessarily the case i do think that the real situation that prevented. you from falling sooner is the fact that people in that area at least initially were willing to give a chance to this new governmental set up with the fault of the u.s. occupation of the withdrawal of the united states maybe feeling well something could change and then of course nothing did change they set up a protest movement to try to make banks change in that it was violently repress by the government and i think that set off a whole range of tensions that didn't necessarily have they didn't necessarily have

to end up this way but really this current government which is supported by the united states part of a process set up by the occupation really set the stage for this and it's a. fortunate because it didn't have to happen oh yes a big question now that all kate has officially any rock star is out war another u.s. invasion well certainly there will be those forces who are pushing that and we've seen that the united states government is now saying well we're going to send more guns and more drones and you know do more that do what we can to well it may not work so well i mean they've got this government that has already found a way using military force to disaffect whole sections of the country in the kurdish areas in the north in the so-called sunni areas in the west and now they're going to give them more guns and more drones and more military support and think that that somehow going to decrease war or decrease violence when the opposite is continually been true i guess you know that brings me to you know this week in iraq as prime minister although locky said that he would no longer support a military assault on fallujah do you agree with that decision one of the think certainly it's the right decision i mean i think the united states government is obviously counseling him to do this trying to recreate something of what they did

with the awakening councils towards the end there were maybe they can buy off some forces but it doesn't really deal with the fundamental underlying issues that are existing in iraq right now which is the political system which disenfranchise the people of pollution so you know president believe he can go on to say the prime minister rather believe he can go on and say well i'm not going to militarily attack the city but ultimately that's just a smokescreen to make himself look better when he's already suppressed the movement and set off this whole situation and it doesn't deal with the underlying situation which is really the way he's running the country under this occupation set up election system which disaffected huge numbers of people and the power he has concentrated in his hands and his inability to find national consensus not an ability really on the willingness to find national consensus you know what we're talking about republicans who are calling i'm sure other democrats as well this isn't a partisan issue obviously calling for u.s. involvement the situation. around all these things what role if any should the u.s. you're playing because clearly this is a large part fault of this brutal occupation decade long occupation should there be

a humanitarian effort and if so i mean how would that look i think it should be led by the u.s. government and i think that we've seen a. around the world they're attempting to use this humanitarian guy's particular with the navy and other forces to really sort of cloak their ability to go into these countries and we should also say the u.s. stoking the civil war in syria is destabilize the country i think obviously the u.s. people should continue the people to people efforts that really begun during the sanctions in iraq but also during the antiwar movement to support civil society organizations trade unions women's groups and others who are trying to promote national reconciliation unity and peaceful solutions to different types of problems inside of their country and not rely on the u.s. government which is blatantly shown that it really only wants to use its power to bolster its own position in the region geostrategic which is ultimately going to mean militarizing one section of society to suppress another section of society so that they have this militarized genda armed to rely on in iraq and other countries to enforce their writ you mentioned syria how much of this escalation of violence

do you think is due to syria's civil war and how do you think it was actually affect syria's for a big it's very significant i think what we've seen is that the civil war in syria has really emboldened these forces it's given them a cause to rally around and as we've seen with the unity of forces in syria and iraq from these type of political movements they've been able to coalesce use the war in syria to get money to get guns to bring in foreign fighters and it's really stoked the flames of this sort of terrible sectarian infighting that's going on and this destabilization of syria i think it can't be understated how the millions and millions of dollars in the guns and everything that the united states and their friends in saudi arabia have been sending into syria has played a big role in further destabilizing iraq and helping these armed groups these al qaeda militants build up their forces which is in bold in them to launch these sorts of attacks considering the battle between insurgents and the u.s. military i mean it really as quoted in fallujah like we said i mean flu has been really a groundswell over the course of the last decade plus how do you think soldiers

feel who went there who fought there to see now and just al qaeda flags flying in the region well i think they have to feel that. a lot of their sacrifice was invented and they would in fact be corrected that because the united states government pumped up all this rhetoric about freedom and crazy stuff about avenging nine eleven even though iraq had nothing to do with it they sent you know hundreds of thousands of troops their people fought and they died they risk their lives they saw their friends die and they really it was only for the united states government to be able to gain further control over the region of iraq not for freedom not for anything else and so i think it's terrible that people went through such a such an experience in this city like blues or these sorts of battles only to see now that what they were told they were fighting for was a false promise and that the u.s. government can't comes up and will continue to come up with whatever excuse they can to justify these wars and it's the soldiers not the people you know donald rumsfeld isn't suffering george bush is you know making million dollars speeches and sitting on his ranch down in texas it's the people in iraq and the people who were sent to fight under false pretenses who are being forced to suffer these

terrible violence and terrible remembrance and loss because of the actions of just a few people looking for profit eugene what is the current situation of just how unstable it is as of late mean for the future stability of iraq and just the region well i mean i think that it's a terrible thing and it looks very unstable just today tuesday here in baghdad i believe twelve people died in attacks we're seeing that all across the country there's a significant amount of violence and really the underlying issues are being dealt with by the current government in iraq or their sponsors in the united states or any of the other western countries and i think it's an unfortunate situation we just have to see how it plays out but certainly the carnage at least by the u.s. invasion and occupation of iraq is ongoing and continually destabilizing i hope that anyone who supports a future military occupations or even interventions all looks at iraq as kind of a symbol of why this doesn't work in fact makes things much much worse thank you so much for jean-pierre always amazing to hear your insight thank you so much for having me. if you like to see so far how do you are you tube channel dot com slash

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a court of law. there's a story. playing out in real life. the that. you would think that with all the horrible news i cover on a daily basis about the two tiered in justice system nothing would surprise me anymore but yesterday the verdict of the case of kelly thomas did kelly thomas was a homeless schizo front man living in fourteen california when he's approached by police officers one night where he was savagely beaten and tase for over thirty minutes the highly disturbing incident was all caught on camera you can hear kelly calling for his father and pleading for his life after other officers came to the scene they tended to the cops instead of the dying man lay in

a pool of his own blood kelly later died in the hospital due to a lack of oxygen because his chest was so badly compressed from the being now i warn you the following image is very graphic but it's important to see the extent of the attack viciously perpetrated against this young man and there's a huge amount of outrage from the community once the video was released proving that he posed zero threat to the officers and the two policemen involved manimal ramos and jason celie were put on the trial for his death one for second degree murder. the other for involuntary manslaughter the third officer involved will not face charges and a stunning verdict yesterday the jury acquitted both officers of all charges the attorney for one of the cops john barnett told reporters he was very pleased with the verdicts he said quote we expected the jury would do their duty and they did their duty he added that the officers did what they were trained to do and had no malice in their hearts if this despicable act is not malicious then i think it's

time to redefine the term especially considering how in the video you can see rameses putting on a pair of latex gloves and telling thomas see these fists they're ready to. later he boasts to the other officer i just probably smashed his face to help more disturbing is that this decision ultimately late in the hands of those sitting on the jury who refused to hold the officers accountable for their loathsome actions to find out how the community is reacting to the latest news and where the family can go from here to seek justice for their son's death or to correspond among the lindo joined us from. andrea in astonishment here in southern california and around the world after true former police officers were acquitted in the killing of a homeless man kelly thomas. case gained international attention after graphic photos and video of the violent confrontation were released online my no ramos was

facing potentially life in prison on a charge of second degree murder jason cinelli also facing serious prison time for involuntary manslaughter at the end of the day it took the jury less than eight hours to find the two men not guilty on all charges as the verdicts were being read the mother of kelly thomas kathy thomas broke down and saw afterwards when she talked to the media she said that her son was murdered and that these men had gotten away with it kelly thomas' father ron thomas go to her sentiments. saying that he was hurt inside and that this prove that we're not safe in the public now supporters of the thomas family set up a makeshift memorial at the scene of the death and are protesting today and will be protesting it in the coming days now the tape of the brutal beating was shown repeatedly in court but the defense ended up using it against the prosecutors saying that it proved that the officers were acting as if they had been trained now the f.b.i. said that it will continue to look at the case the evidence and at the testimony to

see if there were any civil rights violations ron thomas a former law enforcement officer himself says that he will move forward with a civil suit the district attorney in orange county or caucus says that he will not retry cincinnati at ramos and he will not go after joe wolf who had also been charged in the killing of kelly thomas. that was our to correspond i remember leno in los angeles i according to the defense department's own estimates the u.s. has nine hundred military bases that sprawl across one hundred fifty three countries many of these bases are the result of strategic international agreements others are run in the past conflicts but let's face it but the ebb and flow of u.s. wars for occupation american bases hardly ever ever shut down and closed for

business in fact the u.s. still has expansive outposts in korea germany and japan some countries have one some have three but specifically on the japanese island of okinawa there are at least thirty two u.s. military bases occupying twenty percent of the island now if you don't think thirty plus military bases on the land mass roughly the size of long island is enough worry not because plans for yet another base are currently underway or a group of twenty nine artists academics and peace activists have now come together . issue a statement of condemnation against the construction of new base and a call for an end to the military colonization of okinawa one of those people is peter cosmic the story and co-author of the untold history of the united states he joins me now to talk about the real us like these bases have on the local community thank you so much for coming on the heater always a pleasure so peter you're one of the signers of the statement along with all of our stone michael moore noam chomsky how did you guys all get together to sign this statement and what are you trying to get out of it we decided to issue this

statement after the barrier after the governor of okinawa governor not betrayed his electoral pledge to the people of okinawa and agreed with. prime minister abbay that the base could be relocated to the had no part of an hour you have to realize that the base already exists and get on city is that for ten base us marine air base and for ten and there's been a lot of protest about that for many years in one thousand nine hundred sixty three u.s. troops raped a twelve year old girl and the people there were just fed up so since one thousand nine hundred six has been a movement that okinawa to get the base out of going to one city which is heavily populated area and the people of okinawa want to get it out of okinawa completely it's been a very unfair situation for a long time and they were first taken over by the japanese and then there was the big battle in one thousand nine hundred five and the u.s.

after the war set up the bases all over okinawa and you see this little area it's really less than one percent six tenths of a percent of the entire landmass of japan and it has seventy four percent of all u.s. bases in this very very small area so this is the controversy one the governor betrayed the people of okinawa many of us decided it was time to act so we put together this statement and then we only wanted to solicit small. a number of signers originally people who got reputations people who are known by the public in japan and so we initially started with the twenty nine we now have about seventy five and it will push you a second statement with more important more significant people who are known inside japan incredible i mean as we mentioned okinawa is about the size of long island roughly has over thirty bases thousands and thousands of troops why is there why is there such a highly concentrated military presence on this time because it strategically

located it's located close to china it's located close to taiwan it's a base that the united states has already been using in every u.s. involvement in the pacific since world war two we sent troops from okinawa there was enormous protests there because it was such an important part of u.s. policy in vietnam during the u.s. invasion of vietnam the troops were going very often from okinawa so they've been used in a way that's been very unfair and that they've protested against there's also a lot of chemical waste there a lot of toxic elements there plus noise pollution accidents of helicopters crashing people they're really been exploited and they're strongly opposed to it in all the polls between seventy and ninety percent of the okinawan population has come out against the base relocation they want entirely off of oaken our they've got more far too many bases already more than half of u.s.

troops in japan are located at okinawa so it's part as you said before part of this u.s. empire of bases as chalmers johnson called it and we're very critical of all of that our group came together narrowly around the relocation to have no go and opposition to governor naca in the statement but many of us have much broader concerns about the u.s. military footprint and this is also part of obama's rebalancing toward asia his so-called asia pivot. hillary clinton announced this foreign policy magazine in november two thousand and eleven in an article titled america's pacific century so this is what we want to shift troops from the middle east now to the pacific are getting ready for the twenty first century a century when the united states is going to dominate the pacific even more than it has before but the u.s. has a big adversary there and that's china now whereas a few years ago the united states was the leading trading partner for all the members of the ten nations. now china is the leading trade partner with all of them

so it's china's economic growth and china's military revitalization it gets the united states quite alarmed now so the united states is trying to fortify the area right now our troop balance is fifty percent and in the you're going to land think of fifty percent in the pacific our naval forces and our air force we want to rebalance to sixty percent in the pacific to forty percent in the atlantic reading blowback from chalmers johnson when i was in college actually awaken me to a lot of the effects of us imperialism u.s. military is really was astounding in that chapter on okinawa he calls it a us military dictatorship and he kind of outlines the extreme of facts that these bases have had on the local communities you mention this rape case that really got kind of a turning point for a lot of people there talk of the other facts that this president has had on the community. and sometimes one of the arguments that's made is that it's had a positive effect that the u.s.

economy has bolster the economy of okinawa that we've given a lot of employment the reality is that in one thousand nine hundred seventy two when okinawa reverted from american to japanese nominal control at that point fifteen percent of the economy and sales were based on the u.s. troop presence now it's down to five percent it's negligible only about less than two percent of the oakwood now in work force actually works on the base are really . it to the base at this point so it really has a very little no none of the positive effect that they've been trying to say is actually present the negative effect is pervasive and this is a. it's occupation it's always been occupation they were forcefully the first fought with them in the seventeenth century they were forcefully occupied by japan and a part of japan and next in the late nineteenth century then the united states took them over and then i said to revert but what you have to understand also what's

going on there is you've got the administration in power in japan. is the most right wing nationalist perhaps that we've ever had in the leadership in japan and japan has been moving sharply to the right in specially in recent months for obvious first year this is not the first time he's been prime minister he was prime minister in two thousand and six two thousand and seven and that time he was forced to resign in disgrace in two thousand and seven he learned his lesson this time before he's moved on his real right wing agenda what he's done is rebuild the economy and its popularity actually went up quite a bit from the mix a call that revitalization of the japanese economy but in the last few months his true colors are coming out and his goal is to move to pan so sharply to the right john mitchell the u.s. attorney general for nixon once said in ninety seven that this country is going to move so far to the right you're not going to recognize that well didn't quite

happen under nixon happened in the reagan but your parent is doing the same thing now your parents move me so far to the right that it's going to be unrecognizable you just look at the recent things the new defense strategy increase defense spending for the first time in a decade flutie osprey's to be assault vehicles drones they want to want to pop star purchasing now but also in early december they passed a new secrecy law and that's going to criminalize all kinds of national secrets and make it much easier to to actually put make make things. classified to take a cue from the u.s. but i want to interrupt you for the good because you have about thirty seconds left is there any way for people here in america to stop the construction this base to stop the relocation of this it's we're going to have a petition online very shortly they want people all over this country and other parts of the world to stand behind the people of okinawa they've fought alone they fought very bravely there's going to be a mayoral election in the city of nagano and mayor you know i mean current mayor who's really leading the fight against the bases is overwhelmingly ahead despite

all the efforts of the national government to defeat him so the people of okinawa stood up it's our responsibility to support them we do need to stand with our brothers and sisters there it's the u.s. that's doing this thank you so much peter cuz next to that story and all their untold history united states of on check out always a pleasure. that's our show you guys join me again tomorrow and i break this up all over again.

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