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please. please share a little very hard to take a. look. at what i never had sex with that hurt their little. league. last week al-qaeda militants took control of the iraqi cities of ramadi and fallujah after days of nonstop violence according to independent iraqi news agency house what i would rock the three hundred seventy. have died in just the last ten
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days all of that number is hard to verify considering how bodies are not being taken to the morgue and instead excluded from official death counts now you may remember fallujah as one of the primary deadly battleground during the height of the u.s. occupation so what is the fall of the city signify for not only the progress of iraq but the region as a whole joining me now to discuss is eugene career ordinator for the answer coalition thank you so much for coming on metal thank you so much for having me so eugene what the main factors that contribute to the near failed state of iraq today well i think the key factor that we have to mention is that the occupation of iraq by the united states fundamentally destabilize the country the united states just completely disassembled the iraqi state as it existed and not only didn't really put anything in place but actually set up a structure which made it sort of bit official for forces to become more the cereal to divide along sectarian and other sorts of lines of what we're seeing now is the real fruits of all of these time bombs land mines that were set by the u.s.
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occupation all coming to fruition all at the same time we saw two thousand and thirteen one of those deadliest years over eight thousand people died in iraq and i think this situation of pollution body is very related to that horrific and i think it seems like you know a lot of people that comes to their head when they hear the word because of course travesty after a travesty during the height of the occupation we heard that as one of the main pillars of the war why are cities like fallujah ramadi so bloody specifically those cities yes and i think that's something that really resonates the americans actually a former neighbor of mine died the battle for lucia but really for loser in rwanda in particular are areas of the country that saw some of the heaviest fighting were forces who preview who felt essentially disempowered by the regime and there have been actually a peaceful protest movement have been going on for some time in this area of the country that the iraqi government the current government had suppressed but this era of the country is an area where a number of people have felt disaffected from the political process that was put in place by the u.s. occupation and continued after the. and so of course there's been
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a very significant fight between war on the one hand the government looking to suppress protesters who had been against the current political setup and on the other hand between al-qaeda type militants and the residents of these cities with these al qaeda type forces trying to impose their way of life on these individuals in a very violent manner do you think that the u.s. military actually paying the insurgents to not kill them during the troop withdrawal was the only thing pretty much preventing floozy from falling sooner no i don't really think that was necessarily the case i do think that the real situation that prevented. you from falling sooner is the fact that people in that area at least initially were willing to give a chance to this new governmental set up with the fault of the u.s. occupation of the withdrawal the united states maybe feeling well something could change and then of course nothing did change they set up a protest movement to try to make banks change in that it was violently were present at the government and i think that set off a whole range of tensions that didn't necessarily have they didn't necessarily have to end up this way but really this current government which is supported by the
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united states part of a process set up by the occupation really set the stage for this and it's unfortunate because it didn't have to happen oh yes a big question now that al qaeda is officially any iraq war another u.s. invasion well certainly there will be those forces who are pushing that and we've seen that the united states government is now saying well we're going to send more guns and more drones and you know do more that do what we can to. make it work so i mean they've got this government that has already found a way using military force to disaffect whole sections of the country in the kurdish areas in the north in the so-called sunni areas in the west and now they're going to give them more guns and more drones and more military support and think that that somehow going to decrease war or decrease violence when the opposite is continually been true i guess you know that brings me to you know this week in iraq as prime minister said that he would no longer support a military assault on fallujah do you agree with that decision one of the think certainly it's the right decision i mean i think the united states government is obviously counseling him to do this trying to recreate something of what they did with the awakening councils to. wards the end there with maybe they can buy off
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some forces but it doesn't really deal with the fundamental underlying issues that are existing in iraq right now which is the political system which disenfranchise the people of pollutions so you know president believe he can go on to say the prime minister rather you can go on and say well i'm not going to militarily attack the city but ultimately that's just a smokescreen to make himself look better when he's already suppressed the movement and set off this whole situation and it doesn't deal with the underlying situation which is really the way he's running the country under this occupation set up election system which disaffected huge numbers of people and the power he has concentrated in his hands and his inability to find national consensus not an ability really on the willingness to find national consensus you know we're talking about republicans who are calling i'm sure other democrats as well this isn't a partisan issue obviously climb for u.s. involvement the situation. around all these things what role if any should the u.s. be playing because clearly this is a large part fault of this brutal occupation decade long occupation should there be a humanitarian effort and if so i mean how would that look i think it should be led
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by the u.s. government and i think that we've seen around the world they're attempting to use this humanitarian guys particular with the navy and other forces to really sort of cloak their ability to go into these countries and we should also say the u.s. stoking the civil war in syria has helped destabilize the country i think obviously the u.s. people should continue the people to people efforts that really begun during the sanctions in iraq but also during the antiwar movement to support civil society organizations trade unions women's groups and others who are trying to promote national reconciliation unity and peaceful solutions to different types of problems inside of their country and not rely on the u.s. government which is blatantly shown that it really only wants to use its power to bolster its own position in the region geostrategic lee which is ultimately going to mean militarizing one section of society to suppress another section of society so that they have this militarized gen daum to rely on in iraq and other countries to enforce their writ you mentioned syria how much of this escalation of violence do you think is due to syria's civil war and how do you think it. actually affect
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or think it's very significant i think what we've seen is that the civil war in syria has really embolden these al qaeda type forces it's given them a cause to rally around and as we've seen with the unity of forces in syria and iraq from these type of political movements they've been able to coalesce use the war in syria to get money to get guns to bring in foreign fighters and it's really stoke the flames of this sort of terrible sectarian infighting that's going on and this destabilization of syria i think it can't be understated how the millions and millions of dollars in the guns and everything that the united states and their friends in saudi arabia have been sending into syria has played a big role in further destabilizing iraq and helping these armed groups these al qaeda militants build up their forces which is in bold in them to launch these sorts of attacks considering the battle between insurgents and the u.s. military i mean it really as quoted in fallujah like we said i mean flu has been really a groundswell over the course of the last decade plus how do you think soldiers feel who went there who fought there and to see now and just al qaeda flags flying
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in the region well i think they have to feel that a lot of their sacrifice was invented and they would in fact be corrected that because the united states government pumped up all this rhetoric about freedom and crazy stuff about avenging nine eleven even though iraq had nothing to do with it they sent you know hundreds of thousands of troops their people fought and they died they risked their lives they saw their friends die and they really it was only for the united states government to be able to gain further control over the region of iraq not for freedom not for anything else and so i think it's terrible that people went through such a such an experience in this city like a loser these sorts of battles only to see now that what they were told they were fighting for was a false promise and that the u.s. government comes up and will continue to come up with whatever excuse they can to justify these wars and it's the soldiers not the people you know donald rumsfeld isn't suffering george bush is you know making million dollar speeches and sitting on his ranch down in texas it's the people in iraq and the people who are sent to fight under false pretenses who are being forced to suffer these terrible violence and terrible. member in laws because of the actions of just
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a few people looking for profit eugene what is the current situation just how unstable it is as of late mean for the future stability of iraq and just the region well i mean i think that it's a terrible thing and it looks very unstable just today tuesday here in baghdad i believe twelve people died in attacks we're seeing that all across the country there's a significant amount of violence and really the underlying issues are being dealt with by the current government in iraq or their sponsors in the united states or any of the other western countries and i think it's it's an unfortunate situation we just have to see how it plays out but certainly the carnage at least by the u.s. invasion and occupation of iraq is ongoing and continually destabilizing well i hope that anyone who supports a future military occupations or even interventions all looks at iraq as kind of a symbol of why this doesn't work in fact makes things much much worse thank you so much eugene prayer always amazing to hear your insight thank you so much for having me. if you like to see so far how do our you tube channel youtube dot com slash break in the say it be sure to subscribe so you don't miss
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the the that. you would think that with all the horrible news i cover on a daily basis about the two tiered in justice system nothing would surprise me anymore but yesterday the verdict of the case of kelly thomas did kelly thomas was a homeless schizo front man living in fourteen california when he's approached by police officers one night where he was savagely beaten and tase for over thirty minutes the highly disturbing incident was all caught on camera you can hear kelly calling for his father and pleading for his life after other officers came to the scene they tended to the cops instead of the dying man lay in a pool of his own blood kelly later died in the hospital due to a lack of oxygen because its chest was so badly compressed from the beating now i
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warn you the following image is very graphic but it's important to see the extent of the attack viciously perpetrated against this young man there is a huge amount of outrage from the community once the video was released proving that he posed zero threat to the officers and the two policemen involved manimal ramos and jason celie were put on the trial for his death one for second degree murder in the other for involuntary manslaughter the third officer involved will not face charges and a stunning verdict yesterday the jury acquitted both officers of all charges the attorney for one of the cops john barnett told reporters he was very pleased with the verdicts and said quote we expect that the jury would do their duty and they did their duty he added that the officers did what they were trained to do and had no malice in their hearts if this despicable act is not malicious then i think it's time to redefine the term especially considering how in the video you can see ramblers putting on a pair of les. loves and telling thomas see these fists they're ready to. later he
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boasts to the other officer i just probably slashed his face to help more disturbing is that this decision ultimately laid in the hands of those sitting on the jury who refused to hold the officers accountable for their votes and actions to find out how the community is reacting to the latest news and where the family can go from here to seek justice for their son's death or to correspond among the window joined us from. andrea in astonishment here in southern california and around the world after two former police officers were acquitted in the killing of homeless man kelly thomas this gay case gained international attention after graphic photos and video of the violent confrontation were released online manoa ramos was facing potentially life in prison on a charge of second degree murder jason cinelli also facing serious prison time for involuntary manslaughter at the end of the day it took the jury less than eight
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hours to find the two men not guilty on all charges as the verdicts were being read the mother of kelly thomas kathy thomas broke down and saw afterwards when she talked to the media she said that her son was murdered and that these men had gotten away with it kelly thomas' father ron thomas echoed her sentiments saying that he was her inside and that this prove that we're not safe in the public now supporters of the thomas family set up a makeshift memorial at the scene of the death and are protesting today and will be protesting in the coming days now the tape of the brutal beating was shown repeatedly in court but the defense ended up using it against the prosecutors saying that it proved that the officers were acting as if they had been trained now the f.b.i. said that it will continue to look at the case the evidence and at the testimony to see if there were any civil rights violations ron thomas a former law enforcement officer himself. he says that he will move forward with
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a civil suit the district attorney in orange county for a caucus says that he will not retry since nellie and ramos and he will not go after joe wolf who had also been charged in the killing of kelly thomas. that was our to correspondent remember lino in los angeles. according to the defense department's own estimates the us has nine hundred military bases that sprawl across one hundred fifty three countries many of these bases are the result of strategic international agreements others are remnants of past conflicts but let's face it but the ebb and flow of u.s. wars for occupation american bases hardly ever ever shut down and closed for business in fact the u.s. still has expansive outposts in korea germany and japan some countries have one some have three but specifically on the japanese island of okinawa there are at
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least thirty two u.s. military bases occupying twenty percent of the island now if you don't think thirty plus military bases on the land mass roughly the size of long island is enough worry not because plans for yet another base are currently underway or a group of twenty nine artists academics and peace activists have now come together to issue a statement of condemnation against the construction of new base and a call for an end to the military colonization of okinawa one of those people is peter cosmic the story and co-author of the untold history of the united states he joins me now to talk about the real effect these bases have of the local community thank you so much for coming on the heater always a pleasure so peter you're one of the signers of the statement along with all of our stone michael moore noam chomsky how did you guys all get together to sign this statement and what are you trying to get out of it but we decided to issue this statement after the barrier after the governor of okinawa governor not
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betrayed his electoral pledge to the people of okinawa had agreed with. prime minister abbay that the base could be relocated to have no part of it now or you have to realize that the base already. exist and give no one city is that for ten base u.s. marine air base and for ten months and there's been a lot of protest about that for many years in one thousand nine hundred sixty three u.s. troops raped a twelve year old girl and the people there were just fed up so since one thousand nine hundred six has been a movement that okinawa to get the base out of going to one city which is heavily populated area and the people of okinawa want to get it out of okinawa completely it's been a very unfair situation for a long time and they were first taken over by the japanese and then there was the big battle in one thousand nine hundred five in the u.s. after the war set up to its bases all over okinawa and you see this little area it's really less than one percent six tenths of
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a percent of the entire landmass of japan and it has seventy four percent of all u.s. bases in this very very small area so this is the controversy one the governor betrayed the people of okinawa many of us decided it was time to act so we put together this statement and then we only wanted a solicit small number of signers originally people who have got reputations people who are known by the public in japan and so we initially started with the twenty nine we now have about seventy five and it will push you a second statement with more important more significant people who are known inside japan incredible i mean as we mentioned okinawa is about the size of long island roughly has over thirty bases thousands and thousands of troops why there why is there such a highly concentrated military presence on this island because the strategically located it's located close to china it's located close to taiwan
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it's a base that the united states has already been using in every u.s. involvement in the pacific since world war two we sent troops from okinawa there was enormous protests there because it was such an important part of you. us policy in vietnam during the u.s. invasion of vietnam the troops were going very often from okinawa so they've been used in a way that's been very unfair and that they've protested against there's also a lot of chemical waste there a lot of toxic elements there plus noise pollution accidents of helicopters crashing people they're really been exploited and they're strongly opposed to it in all the polls between seventy and ninety percent of the okinawan population has come out against the base relocation they want entirely off of oaken our they've got more far too many bases already more than half of u.s. troops in japan are located at okinawa so it's part as you said before part of this u.s. empire of bases as chalmers johnson called it and we're very critical of all of that
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our group came together narrow alley around the relocation to have no go and opposition to governor naca in the statement but many of us have much broader concerns about the u.s. military footprint and this is also part of obama's rebalancing toward asia his so-called asia pivot hillary clinton announced this foreign policy magazine in november two thousand and eleven in an article titled america's pacific century so this is what we want to shift troops from the middle east now to the pacific we're getting ready for the twenty first century a century when the united states is going to dominate the pacific even more than it has before but the u.s. has a big adversary there and that's china and whereas a few years ago the united states was the leading trading partner for all the members of us in the ten nations of us now china is the leading trade partner with all of them so it's china's economic growth and china's military revitalization it
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gets the united states quite alarmed now so the united states is trying to fortify the area right now our troop balance is fifty percent in the you're going to land think of fifty percent in the pacific our naval forces and our air force. we want to rebalance to sixty percent in the pacific to forty percent and the atlantic reading blowback from chalmers johnson when i was in college actually awaken me to a lot of the effects of periods in the u.s. military is a really was astounding in that chapter on okinawa he calls it a us military dictatorship and he kind of outlined the extreme of facts that these bases have had on the local communities you mention this rape case that really got kind of a turning point for a lot of people there talk of the other facts that this president has had on the community. and sometimes one of the arguments that's made is that it's had a positive effect that the u.s. economy has bolstered the economy of okinawa because we've given a lot of employment the reality is that in one thousand nine hundred eighty two
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when reverted from american to japanese nominal control at that point fifteen percent of the economy and sales were based on the u.s. troop presence now it's down to five percent it's negligible only about less than two percent of the oaken now in work force actually works on the base or related to the base at this point so it really has very little to none of the positive effect that they've been trying to say is actually present the negative effect is pervasive and this is a. it's occupation it's always been occupation they were forcefully the first to pay for it with them in the seventeenth century their force fully occupied by japan and a part of japan and next in the late nineteenth century then the united states took them over and then i said to revert but what you have to understand also what's going on there is you've got the abbaye administration in power in japan. is the most right wing nationalist perhaps we've ever had in the leadership in japan and
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japan has been moving sharply to the right in specially in recent months for obvious first year this is not the first time he's been prime minister he was prime minister in two thousand and six. two thousand and seven and that time he was forced to resign in disgrace in two thousand and seven he learned his lesson this time before he's moved on his real right wing agenda what he's done is rebuild the economy and its popularity actually went up quite a bit from the nomics they call the revitalization of the japanese economy but in the last few months his true colors are coming out and his goal is to move to pan so sharply to the right john mitchell the u.s. attorney general for nixon once said in ninety seven that this country is going to move so far to the right you're not going to recognize it well it didn't quite happen did nixon happen in the reagan but your pan is doing the same thing now compared his movie so far to the right that it's going to be unrecognizable you just look at the recent things the new defense strategy increased defense spending
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for the first time in a decade flutie produce and assault vehicles drones they want to want to start purchasing now but also in early december they passed a new secrecy law and that's going to criminalize all kinds of national secrets make it much easier to actually put make make things classified from the u.s. but i want to have about thirty seconds is there any way for people here in america to stop the construction the space to stop the relocation of this we're going to have a petition online very shortly we want people all over this country and other parts of the world to stand behind the people of okinawa they fought alone they fought very bravely there's going to be a mayoral election in the city of nagato and mayor current mayor who's really leading the fight against the bases is overwhelmingly ahead despite all the efforts of the national government to defeat him so the people of okinawa stood up it's our responsibility to support them we do need to stand with our brothers and sisters
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there it's the u.s. that's doing this thank you so much peter cuz next story an author untold history united states of on check it out always a pleasure. that's our show you guys join me again tomorrow night break. with the economic ups and downs in the final months the deal sank night and the rest that i take it will be every week on me. when you are followed around when you are being investigated because of the whim of someone this is the beginning of the end of your freedom. stephen and save me
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