other news story tonight afghanistan's accusing the u.s. of killing seven children and one woman in their nighttime airstrike despite calls to stop bombarding residential areas we're following that up this hour also to. tight security surrounds the second day of egypt's constitution referendum after the first round was marred by deadly violence and claims that the vote no campaigns in silence. the euro could become a burning building with no exits reformer klein britain's treasury chief warns the european union that the u.k. will quit if nothing is done to fix the block's flagging competitiveness.

very good even if just join just one is kevin zero in this is r.t. international live from moscow it's eleven pm here now and we're starting with the developments have been hearing about the last hour we've been talking about at least seven children a woman have been killed in a u.s. nighttime air raid those details are from the afghanistan president hamid karzai himself upright about attack took place on tuesday night in the central power one province north of kabul but the teachers have only just been released robert naiman joins me now he's a foreign affairs analyst from the group just foreign policy hi robert evening to you so again it's kind of an awful ground all day isn't it we're seeing again disturbing details of innocent people including children being killed by accident in u.s. attacks that are going to be big ramifications from this again on their. well yes absolutely because this is a directly tied to what's in dispute between the afghan government and the u.s.

government is they try to negotiate an agreement on what's going to happen to u.s. forces after twenty fourteen what they won't be allowed to do after a government doesn't want the u.s. to unilaterally engage in military operations in afghanistan and particularly want to end of night raids this is this if it is an example of why the afghan government is so adamant about this in advance like this make it less likely that the u.s. and the afghan government will be able to reach an agreement yet you're saying it's been a huge source of a rift over the months over the years and they get the u.s. wants full immunity for its troops too. well sure who wouldn't if they could get it but as we know these are the kinds of issues. that prevented the negotiation between the u.s. government and the iraqi government from reaching a successful conclusion the u.s.

would be happy to keep keep troops there on their terms that they have been governing would be happy to keep. u.s. troops there kind of you know magical unicorn fantasy terms that they never kill civilians they never do anything the afghan government doesn't like those two things are in contradiction that the u.s. forces that magically do what the afghan government wants and doesn't do but the afghan government people don't want those u.s. forces those magical us forces don't exist if the dad can't people and government on the staff like this from happening they're going to have to send u.s. forces out of the country let's say the still no agreement on this if if there is no agreement the u.s. is going to pull out but cobbles not ready that will things by itself yet is it. well the end of the story i think the key question is is there going to be a political accommodation in afghanistan or not if there is not the war is going to

keep going one way or the other u.s. forces afghan forces people are still going to get killed sure what for what reason exactly what is being accomplished by keeping the war going the u.s. admits that in parts of afghanistan where they've been operating the afghan taliban the insurgency is going to resume control when the u.s. leaves so what is the point of continuing the war wanting to get a political agreement dead ends the war the afghan government has been demanding that the u.s. move forward on that the u.s. hasn't moved forward because it's not ready to do the prisoner apparently has not reduced the prisoner exchange there would start the negotiation on a side from his like his colleagues we're hearing about now the taliban is making more and more inroads what company done about that than practically. well first of all the head to a sceptic that can be done about it the u.s. government minutes then it can't get rid of the afghan taliban which candidate on

a mini down at the afghan taliban is going to move back into even according to the u.s. plan they're going to go from fifty or sixty thousand troops now to maximum twelve or thirteen dowsing if the pentagon gets its way we live serious here we're just just just briefly one on the line what do the afghanistan is themselves want well clearly there is a division opinion there there's not unanimity of opinion there but you know some afghans will tell you no they want u.s. troops to stay but stop killing innocent people that's a contradiction those are magical u.s. troops that don't get other afghans. you know there's broad agreement and have been and they want to work and they want to political agreement that ends the war that's been true for a long time western media have reported that that's that's what should have them

there should be a political agreement and the work after all talks are happening now in europe about ending the civil war in syria why shouldn't there be a political process to end the civil war in afghanistan a key obstacle is western all see that it hasn't moved seriously just started the talks starting as i said with very simple of exchanging the afghan prisoners at guantanamo for the u.s. soldier both bergdahl that's being held by the top ones that doesn't happen we know that the u.s. government isn't serious about a political process and it was just while you're there quick last thirty seconds a forthcoming presidential election on the cards in afghanistan how is that going to play. well the key thing down there is that president karzai said you know this whatever happens agreement there should be a determined by the new president u.s. is very much against that they were. to get the agreement nailed down now if it's not only let down before the election and this is going to be

a key issue in the election which would be great because then the afghan people can decide what they want if they don't you know voter is again it's election i say are you further you are getting it will can vote for the candidate that has the position of dave really so if you believe in democracy now you should be delighted that the agreement be delayed until after the alleged robert naiman foreign affairs analyst from just foreign policy nonpartisan organization thank you for giving us your thoughts on r.t. international great story. the second and final day of voting is underway in egypt on whether to accept or not and the new constitution critics say yes result will serve to secure the military's grip on future governments they have to the muslim brotherhood's refusing to take part calling a sham referendum that puts the army before the nation violence during day one of that ballot killed eleven of his bill true sinker. well addictions are once again in the polling stations for a second day on this referendum on the constitution people behind it so are this

interim government and also the military and then the people who stand to gain the most if this is a yes votes and if there's a high turnout in particular the military this is key articles within this constitution which would cement military power over the civilian states' military trials for civilians will be allowed the military budget will be kept secrets and crucially the appointment of the defense minister will have to be approved by egypt's a supreme council of the armed forces which basically means the minutes to be able to veto the decisions by the presidents now this is worry quite as if you rights groups and also activists who said that this was centrally cause and military state within a state but really the biggest opponents the constitution are the muslim brotherhood and supporters of ousted president mohamed morsi who say the whole process is intimate. there has been a very tentative no vote campaign which hasn't really been allowed to express itself over the course of the last week this is something that people are saying is causing you know causing a real problem here in the referendum as it's really only

a yes votes allowed in egypt's high turnout and a yes vote would be a stamp of approval from the states on that minute she altered political map which they put in place into allied and would see parliamentary and presidential elections of course this could also pave the way for egypt's de facto leader and forces chief general sisi to run for president he's already expressed interest in doing that we had a similar situation under the former president mohamed morsi when he pressed through his constitutional two thousand and twelve constitution which basically any all his decrees from judicial peel gave themselves you can get thirty and keep it actually immunize the body that was drafting his constitution from being dissolved by any judicial body now mr brotherhood and his supporters do not recognize the current constitution as they still believe the two thousand and twelve constitution should be in place. so they are boycott. singh at the moment and we spoke to a spokesperson of the missing brotherhood and to ask them what their position is

and this position make egypt a military state this concession make it police state either wise you can consider . any state of that egypt has an army you can say that gives an army has a state this is the reality of the scale of however there is a sentiment here in the streets in egypt people want the country to move forward after six very difficult and bloody months of course those polling stations of closed in the last ten minutes there it's been nearly three years of protests on unrest in egypt since the turn eleven revolution political activist after midnight spokesman irani says this referendum even if it's successful will not bring stability to the country. paul environments are under which the constitution was drafted and now the whole process. with a heavy handed security presence and dealing with any political dissidents of anyone who is trying to promote voting nor rest of activists this whole environment

discredits the process even though. in terms of procedures up to now it's been quite transparent to a great extent it's inevitable that we will have this constitution passed but however the support. to disconcert will not bring any sort of stability because the problem is it's a political problem the problem is not the constitution you have protesters on the streets will continue to be on the streets now given that. general sisi will announce that he will run for presidency this will more or less exasperate the problem and perhaps we might see egypt falling into more violence and pass even a civil war. a man in charge of britain's finances has given the e.u. addressing don't telling the brussels behemoths stick leininger needs an urgent overhaul george osborne was addressing a fig tank on europe when he also was that the u.k. will pull out if the e.u.

fails to reform itself is not is laura smith. said europe's like a burning building with no exits basically he sees the political block as falling behind india and china overspending on welfare becoming less and less competitive essential in the economic and political bloc in decline domestically of course here in the u.k. the e.u. is losing popularity people say it's very expensive increasingly power hungry and also the originator of an awful lot of red tape but also one central message today was that the u.k. is not pushing for reform for its own sake oh no it's pushing for reform for everybody else's sake for europe's sake as a whole so he was talking about the tabling of legal challenges a year period course of justice he said it's not time to european but in fact it's a way of preserving values that traditionally seem to be european such as known discrimination he talked about the calling for rejection of the financial services

reform which of course includes a cap on bankers' bonuses which is quite controversial here in the u.k. because london competes with new york and hong kong it's not competing inside europe and anything that damages the city of london also damages london also damages europe as a whole but he is george osborne summing up for his central message was some on the continent like to assume this is just the u.k. pursuing its own self interest of the expense of the collective good. but it's the opposite if we cannot protect the collective interests of normal euro zone member states then they will have to choose between joining the euro which the u.k. will not do or leaving the european union and these rifts and these calls for reform between london and brussels keep on opening up the latest is a very interesting more human rights since the u.k. in fact brussels has talked about imposing the charter of human rights on all its member countries which would possibly mean legal challenges to businesses and to

government the u.k. already opted out of that in ninety ninety eight so the government is sort of like going back into the past and doing something again and that's the latest in a in a long line of proposals as brussels tries to ramp up the political union inside the political integration george osborne's message on the message of the conservative party here in the u.k. as a whole is reform or die you can correspond with the world mr cameron so you to renegotiate britain's membership in the e.u. and to hold a referendum by twenty seventeen from the new liberal bruges group think told me there's no point waiting because europe's not going to reform itself. i'm very pessimistic about the chances of the e.u. changing it's been created since nine hundred fifty seven it's about ever closer union it's about more regulation it's about less powerful nation states more powerful and unaccountable bureaucracy it is not going to change in the timeframe that the government has given it the british membership cannot continue without the

consent of the british public it more than eighty percent say they want a vote and you now vote on and on at membership of the you but of course is absolutely fundamental to our economy as well because at the moment having to pay billions each year to brussels e.u. red tape is holding back the british economy as well as other european nations as well it's not you know economic benefit so things are really must change you it doesn't have much of an economic future it is declining as a bloc so britain should look at other opportunities that await us around the globe . the u.s. biggest ever appeal for humanitarian help of some donors pledged two and a half billion dollars so far to help syrian refugees and one of the countries dipping into its pockets is britain but charities want to know why it's a case of open wallet with closed doors this report from tessa reseller. increasingly extreme humanitarian suffering there is a humanitarian crisis so britain is leading the way with humanitarian support but

some might wonder whether it actually is the u.k. has committed five hundred million pounds of aid that's to assist syria's neighbors like lebanon jordan turkey and iraq cope with the sheer number of refugees but that as far as it's willing to go the u.k. is one criticized for saying no to the refugee agency appeal to syrians fleeing the conflict despite calls to open its doors for now why answer is still the latest count more than two million syrian refugees are at the borders of neighboring countries this is. just. on the. concern shared by seventeen other nations who've said yes it's hard to understand why they're taking this position given that this is something that we have done in the past problems the conflict in the balkans we

took in thousands of kosovo. i fear that there may be may be domestic emigration considerations that is influencing this come slap in the middle of a political climate at a national mood that's increasingly wary of anyone coming through the door we already have accepted a number we have except i think about one thousand five hundred asylum seekers that is a fact we've already get to shake his head it is a fact we have accepted hundreds and hundreds of individual asylum seekers from syria but factually speaking the un's most recent request is that countries all for resettlement places for people who were still stuck in the region which does not include the fifteen hundred nick clegg says of apply for asylum in britain what the un has asked for is over and above the commitment in international law david cameron has called a serious friend and he's caught this wreckage correct the crisis of our time in

recognition of. the u.k. would respond does or so the r.t.e. london. russia's foreign ministry says the syrian opposition's reluctance to take part in peace talks is the main obstacle in the way of ending the bloodshed right now and in other developments on syria damascus claims that western intelligence agencies have been to the city did the scuffs the radical groups fighting president assad syria's deputy foreign minister suspects indeed there's a rift between politicians and intelligence communities and some western countries that have been calling for assad to go earlier we spoke to former british counterterrorism intelligence officer charles hsu bridgie explain to me why he thinks we may be seeing a change in european and american policies right now world syria. i think that's a recognition of a number of factors one of those is the inability of the syrian opposition and the rebels to get their act together politically but also i think there's a recognition that militarily the rebels are unable to deliver on their promises in any case perhaps of more immediate concern to the west and this is

a particular case in the european capitals it's clear that elements of the syrian opposition comprising fighters jihadist fighters that have gone from countries such as britain germany spain etc to certify it with al-qaeda linked forces there actually pose a threat to european countries themselves so this recognition has meant that security services have of course been forced if you like to address this in the best way to their own national interests and of course inevitably that means particularly since it's likely more i think recognize now that assad will be around for some time to actually make those links even if discreetly with back with the regime's intelligence services former british intelligence officer chose shoe bridge coming up american internet service providers can now legally pick and choose who gets to have mega speedy downloads it's new news a web industry expert tells us where that the live smaller online services we're talking about that in a few minutes on this channel. ariel

sharon has died and been given a state funeral he was called controversial and even a peacemaker by mainstream media and political clowns and many other strong we reject these descriptions on this edition of problems talk with a simple question was ariel sharon. when you were followed around when you were being investigated because of the whim of someone this is the beginning of the end of your freedom. does do you say you routinely intercept american citizens. text messages you know. where the calls text messages so you just see everything about my knowledge that i actually basically and there's no legal absolutely legal yes when you're back with the internet you're back with big brother killed.

starting live from moscow a wave of bombings in iraq has killed at least seventy five people in baghdad on the northern city of baquba to the worst attacks eighteen died when a suicide bomber blew himself up at a funeral procession the u.n. says about five hundred people have been killed this month alone while last year proved to be iraq's deadliest since two thousand and eight as a continuing standoff between the iraqi army and al-qaeda linked militants have been in control of the city of fallujah two for more than a way now. looks at who's to blame for how the situations on folding in the late edition of breaking the set which you can watch in full on our website is a quick snippet. last week al qaeda and militants took control of the iraqi cities

of ramadi and fallujah after days of nonstop violence according to independent iraqi news agency brock three hundred seventy people have died in just the last ten days all about numbers hard to verify considering how bodies are not being taken to the morgue and instead excluded from official death counts now you may remember fallujah as one of the primary deadly battleground during the height of the u.s. occupation so what is the fall of the city signify for not only the progress of iraq but the region as a whole joining me now to discuss is eugene career ordinator for the answer coalition thank you so much for coming on metal thank you so much for having me so you jeanne what the main factors that are contributing to your failed state of iraq today well i think the key factor that we have to mention is that the occupation of iraq by the united states fundamentally destabilize the country the united states just completely disassembled the iraqi state as it existed and not only didn't really put anything in place but actually set up a structure which made it sort of bit official for forces to become more at the

serial to divide along sectarian and other sorts of lines of what we're seeing now is the real fruits of all of these time bombs land mines that were set by the u.s. occupation of. the the. more that up so you don't comb talking of which called just when you thought america's spying capabilities couldn't get any why they want to check this it seems that you don't even need to be online for the n.s.a. now to sift through your private data will tell you why on our web site this is a clever little fake make the really able to find apparently on fetch objects as well as new skills or let people be presidents hope the robotic the poor the useful the system people with disabilities clever. course one of the internet's founding principles was that there was. access to

everybody online but it seems that is not good enough these days for us federal court scrapping net neutrality it's now granted internet providers the power to rule web traffic and to decide for themselves who gets to jump the queue it means that the biggest companies can get their hands on the bulk of websites it could mean to that new online services all those not willing to pay to broadband network providers like the rise in a calm cuss could find speeds held by already blocked altogether the route it was pushed by verizon which is one of america's largest mobile phone operators and telecoms provide is an expert in new media entrepreneurship told me how it'll most likely result in the discrimination of many online services and derail innovative startups telecom industry combined with its allies in hollywood and big media would very much like to. make the internet essentially an enhanced form of cable television and that would be where they pick winners they pick losers they decide what's on and we what we get to see to some large degree what we don't

want to see is innovation requiring the permission of the big operators at the center of the network's innovation on the internet has taken place in large part not all but in significant part at the edges of the networks so i don't want to see than the the next facebook needing permission from verizon and comcast in order to get bigger that would be problematic at the very least. more than eyes big stories israel's defense ministers apologize for his remarks on u.s. secretary of state's middle east peace efforts your shit yellow it was quoted by newspapers saying that john kerry's attempts at israeli palestinian peace were massy anika and obsessive and quote while the white house called the comments inappropriate kerry's been on a diplomatic push recently to outline a deal between the sides but progress has so far stalled. these palestinians were

exactly how people view a secular state policies either with scores of protesters staging a rally against john kerry in ramallah although his visit was canceled it didn't prevent people voicing their anger and calling on the leader mahmoud abbas to end any negotiations with the israelis the crowd chanted for kerry to go home and divided the escalation of israeli settlement construction behold. update on those mass protests in thailand they're refusing still to back down continuing to try to disrupt bangkok and to try to force the government to quit gunshots were fired at a crowd overnight that injured at least two people prime minister should what for her part reiterated she is going to plow on with snap elections in february in an attempt to calm the situation but the demonstrators having none of it they say it's not enough they're demanding the ousting of the country's leaders. thanks for your company on but with the next full news update just about half an hour from now after the break the people of elves say this latest guest tonight taking on the legacy of the late is ready prime minister ariel sharon crosstalk here on r.t.

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hello and welcome to crossfire where all things considered i'm peter lavelle ariel sharon has died and being given a state funeral he is called controversial and even a peace maker by mainstream media and political classes many others strongly reject these descriptions for much of the world particular the palestinians sharon's legacy is much more about hate violence intolerance and death on this edition of cross talk we ask a simple question who was ariel sharon. to cross not the life and times of ariel sharon i'm joined by my guests joshua landis and norman he is the director of the center of middle east studies at the university.