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tv   Sophie Co  RT  January 17, 2014 9:29am-10:01am EST

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hello and welcome to. the foreign minister of iran is in russia had of the next round of syria peace talks one thing nuclear negotiations finally progress inc tehran is seeing diplomatic doors open can't help solve the syria question what is being discussed with moscow and we'll hear read name in richmond continue we caught up with mr to find out the answers first hand. drawn is on the verge of a diplomatic breakthrough. decades of deadlock nuclear program may be over. the grip of crippling sanctions seems closer than ever and world powers are even asking for help with ending the war in syria on top of that there is a new billion dollar trade deal with moscow in the works. is the islamic
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republic into the international seat. for a minister it's really great to have the on our program today. so you just came back from damascus you've spoken to president bashar have you talked about and see concrete have you come up with any concrete solutions. i just come from the middle east. i was in jordan i was in iraq and i see a common thread among everybody speak. spread of widens spread of extremism. that is brewing in the region and the need to contain it now. but there is no. situation. now we see the consequences. spillover into lebanon we see the
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situation in iraq which is very. interlinked with syria because the same group the stomach the so-called islamic state of iraq and the levant is. creating difficulty and making terrorist bombings in inside iraq at the same time at is it is engaged in syria even in infighting within the opposition in syria of it various groups in the opposition are fighting with each other with the great degree of inhumanity so this is a major threat we see the consequences of the same threat in russia today when you see terrorist bombings in radius places we see the consequences in iran when we see abductions and attacks we see the consequences all over the region and it can go even beyond the region so everybody that i talked to was committed to dealing with this issue but in syria i see the president and i see the syrian government ready
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to engage with all syrians in order to reach a commonly accepted. solution which cost to come out of the public but also in the opposition it has to be all those who want who are interested in the future of syria everybody in syria to get together this is a decision for the syrians to make if president bashar assad stepping down before the election is the only possible compromise with the opposition that's the only possible solution for a ceasefire would iran agree to that. i think the premise of the question is wrong. it is for the government and the opposition to sit together and to discuss the future of syria and i do not believe people should be for you and start negotiating decide about the outcome it seems that there is a de a great deal. insecurity among those people who are setting conditions for
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even negotiations to start that this should happen and that should happen this should be the outcome of the negotiations here that should be the outcome of the negotiations if the people have confidence in their ability to attract the syrian people if they believe their you present the bishes of the syrian population then they should be ready to go to the ballot box why do they need to set preconditions and i saw it on the site at the end of the day no country other the syrian people can decide what will happen in syria and if they try to impose their wishes on the syrian people sooner or later they see the failure of that process talking about setting conditions u.s. secretary of state john kerry has said that iran could informally help from the sidelines. to the geneva two talks in syria well iran agreed to help from the sidelines iran is an important player in this reach. it would be rather.
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ironic to have. those who support extremist groups participate in the conference invited to participate in the conference and then for some. predispositions say that iran should accept preconditions in order to participate in the conference. will either participate in the conference or as any other state that has been invited without precondition on the descent same circumstances and others have been invited and will participate. in the. main course of the conference and on the sidelines or iran will decide to stay away if you are not invited. we will not accept anything that that is beneath our dignity that is our own the only condition we do not have any condition for participation in the talks we are prepared to. participate if you
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are given the same invitation as anybody else who participated in the conference we believe we have a much more important role to play in this conference than many others who have been invited. but we're not convening this conference or other two means of the conference they will decide. to their own benefit or to their own detriment to vote or not in work so let me make sure i understand this correctly iran will only help advance the peace process and if it isn't right as a full member of the conference iran will always help advance peace process in syria because peace in syria is in our national security interest that will happen and that is our policy but whether we will participate and assist the geneva two process will depend on whether iran is officially invited as a full fledged participant in the process or we will decide if they decide not to invite us then they shouldn't expect us to be there either in the conference or on
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the sidelines if you're not invited do not call damascus has told russia that it is actually prepared to allow the delivery of humanitarian aid i know that iran has great deal of leverage in syria let me ask you this it's a concrete question can iran help convince mr to actually allow a humanitarian corridor and stop bombarding residential areas. well i don't think we need to do a lot i think it is necessary for all of us to understand that humanitarian assistance to people in need should be allowed to go in it should not be a pretext for intervention it should not be a pretext to try to help extremist groups that are fighting each other and fighting the people of syria and bombarding each other and bombarding the people of syria killing even their own prisoners in. this is
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not a way out of this humanitarian tragedy we need to send humanitarian assistance to syria we have been providing humanitarian assistance to syria all through these years we don't make a lot of fuss about it we believe that is our humanitarian responsibility and you don't need to make a lot of fuss when you are basically conducting yourself in a way that is. appropriate as responsible states in the region we will continue to do that and we'll continue to do that in coordination with the syrian government and in coordination with others who are interested in sending humanitarian assistance through to syria we believe that is extremely important it is extremely important to address the humanitarian requirements of the syrian people but it should not be a pretext for other extraneous political agendas to be into interjected into the well that i continue to provide president assad's government with arms and volunteers. we have relations with the government in syria as
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a government that is recognized by the united nations as a full fledged member of the united nations it's a legitimate government of syria those who are supporting. others who are using extremist measures in order to. advance whatever political cause that they may have they think international law. the fact is that there is a legitimate government seated in damascus in syria recognized by the united nations. that is the case stores who have relations with that government will continue to have relations with that comment but iran is not providing volunteers to syria we are having relations with syria in accordance with our agreements in the past and that will continue just for a minister in the interests of russia today told us that iran was actually providing military expertise and help to syrian how we have longstanding military cooperation with the syrian. i meant as the government recognized by the united
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nations and those doors cooperations within the context of international law within the context of our international obligations and restrictions placed within international law will continue i know that you have spoken to your turkish counterpart about a possible ceasefire in syria and the two countries have their differences but is it really possible to come up with a peace deal on syria on a regional level because you know we often hear wonder how come syria's destinies decide between america and russia but i think it is important for syria's destiny we don't need be decided by the syrian people but it is important for the regional players to be turkey and iran included to play a positive and constructive role. in the past four months we've been trying since since i took office as foreign minister i've been trying in discussions with my friend and colleague the foreign minister of turkey as well as with the prime
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minister and other authorities in turkey to see how iran and turkey can help because iran and turkey have similarity of views on a lot of issues in turkey the fact that we should not allow extremists to reign in syria is a is a common position between iran and turkey the fact that we need a ceasefire is a common position the fact that we need to get humanitarian assistance to people in need in syria that's a common position between iran and syria so iran and turkey so we are working together we have our differences obviously and we're trying to minimize those differences and hopefully work together in order to advance those common objectives if you had to have anything concrete in mind of what the first step towards to cease fire would be very we believe the no need for anything to lead to a cease fire there can be just a cease fire the problem is in the situation in in syria because there are so many armed groups terrorist groups that. even coordinate among each other the way that
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the so-called islamic states will be iraq is operating involved one part of syria is different from how it's operating in other parts of syria in one part of the city it is fighting. in the other part of syria it is aligned with so it's a rather a very difficult and tragic hot podge of extremist elements coming from all over the world trying to carry. out the disillusioned agenda in syria and in the meantime. losing their own lives and killing a lot of people on the side so i think it is important for all of us to work together how that can come about is it is a very difficult proposition it's a straightforward proposition to stop fighting but how you do it how you under governments i decide that difficult but how you bring all these various forces at all wreaking havoc in various poor parts of syria to stop kidding and come to the
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negotiating table that's a difficult proposition but we are prepared to work. in order to achieve that subject and welcome back. to curb iran's nuclear program. the flame. the limbic spirit travels with the flame from its place in greece. join james
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and we're back with the foreign minister mohammad javad zarif foreign minister today you're in russia and there is a lot of talk about iran and russia negotiating oil for a good straight deal worth one point five billion dollars a month and this is something america isn't too keen on a spokesperson for the united states and said that it could trigger a possible sanctions can you confirm that this agreement is being negotiated in moscow today. any agreement between governments. i'm here to discuss various issues primarily regional problems our nuclear issue and cooperation between iran and russia that expands in all areas you don't and russia are two neighbors. historical ties we've had traditional ties. will be conducted as far as the governments of the two countries are concerned in accordance with our international obligations in accordance with international law in accordance with the framework that we have agreed. and it is only for the two
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neighbors to decide how they will conduct their operations but but what will happen between economic entities in the two countries is something that the government does not control needed on our side nor on the russians this particular deal isn't being discussed at this particular this particular days no particular deal to be discussed ok but the implementation of geneva agreement to curb iran's nuclear activities in exchange on some sanctions starts january the twenty s. on this day will all iranian nuclear facilities be open and transparent specters. all iranian nuclear facilities are open and transparent to the even before the. fiasco started ten years ago because i believe it's a fiasco it's of a certain time money and energy of a lot of people it is diverting attention from issues that are a primary concern to the international community and people are trying smokescreen
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to hide their own agendas and their own atrocities particularly in palestine against the palestinian people to continue ation of the settlement policies consolations of the what actions of the rights of the palestinians are all continuing behind the smokescreen so it's a smokescreen. but the fact is that iranian nuclear facilities have been open to more inspection more scrutiny more transparency measures and probably any other any other nuclear facility certainly in the region and maybe beyond so iran's nuclear facilities will be open on the twentieth but they have been open before the twenty year way for surprise inspections. surprise inspections because there are daily inspections when you have daily inspections is no surprise. now that you as far as in essence are expected to start on blocking in february how soon do you think that geneva agreement will actually maple in iran to sell crude oil again we are sending more crude oil. i don't mommie and i'm not in that business and that's not my area
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of responsibility but i believe the. framework. p. vents the united states has been doing to see the eagerly anyway but prevents it from further restrictions on the sale of iranian oil it doesn't mean that b. agreed to the restrictions of their place until now from our perspective and from the perspective of many other countries but they've been doing has been easy now but we've decided not not to look at the past and look towards the future they would refrain from fed that increasing that and they will provide some sanctions relief but the goal is not to get stuck in this stage of the game the goal is to use this as. a basically a breathing space in order to get a final deal and a final deal would mean that all sanctions will be removed and at the same time iran will do what we believe it's in our best interest to clarify and to show to
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the international community that the purpose of our nuclear program is nothing but peaceful so we will do these two things. as the sort of final comprehensive settlement and we believe that provided that these good will good faith and political will in fact. we can be shouted leave it but that requires all sides to come to the negotiating table with an open mind with the understanding that they have to address the concerns of iran that they have to gain the trust of the iranian people who have a lot of concerns and misgivings about the west the way the west has dealt with the iranian nuclear program and other iranian activities in general so in fact this this is basically a staging ground this is not an end in itself this is just a beginning and i hope that as of the twenty first of january iran is ready to
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engage with five plus one collectively and individually in order to move the process spoke despite president obama's calls on congress to hold off on sanctions there are many american lawmakers are actually quoting from our sanctions on your country and they're saying well because iran is bluffing it's not going to walk away from the talks even if we put more sanctions on so let me ask you this will they knew you were sanctions really mean and to these talks well i think. those in the united states who are pushing for more sanctions have to see what this policy has produced and whether it's worth risking. i'm not what i don't want to get engaged in the. that childish discussion whether iran is bluffing good or not they can test us they have to say this in the past what sanctions has produced is basically nineteen thousand centrifuges and
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a lot of resentment among the iranian population that the united states congress is against the buying medicine. because this it restricts the possibilities for banks to open letters of credit for iranian corporations to import medicine this is basically what they've done is that's something that senator menendez can be proud of that's for him to respond to but the iranian people. will stick to their rights will not bow to pressure the way they've got to understand that the way to deal with iran is to respect sanctions have not produce and produce any results up to now they will not produce any results that are positive and constructive and can help resolve this problem in the future if they believe that sanctions are so important. then they can test it and see the consequences i don't mean the consequences is something that they would like but also the way i see it as far as
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this particular agreement is concerned iran claims that any signed agreement gives it the right to enrich uranium at a lower level for peaceful purposes america says this agreement does no such think we're not talking about which side creates what in this agreement correctly or incorrectly and the end of the day you have two main negotiators who read one agreement in a very different way see a problem there well the agreement is in black and white basically it provides that any final deal. any final deal will have and richmond as its integral part and that's basically all we're saying well the united states can have its own interpretation of what the days of right to enrichment are not the rest of the international community has an interpretation and that interpretation has been repeated twice and the fact is that iranian enrichment will continue during the six months period the first round so they can look at the facts on the ground or they
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can try to have a legal misinterpretations of the texas taxes in black and white in pure english we haven't done any translate. in different languages we haven't produced a fact sheet the text is dead i think instead of producing fact sheets instead of producing statements instead of trying to give in my view misinterpretations of this you just read the agreement. but despite the differences though it's the first time in twenty seven years that american in iran are talking and you are one of the masterminds of this great deal do you feel i do establishment of diplomatic ties with america helped iran in some ways to feel like other countries are listening to more carefully now we're not talking about the restart different of the from articulation we're talking about the united states and iran hopefully in good faith i believe i have good faith and i hope. kerry and president obama. going to push. good faith in order to reach
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a diplomatic solution on this issue with iran so it's important that we are talking it doesn't mean that we have diplomatic relations with the united states it doesn't mean that if you solve this we will have diplomatic relations with the united states the object of this exercise is to resolve the nuclear issue i believe the nuclear issue has been a major stumbling block. of greater understanding and cooperation between iran and diverse include the d.n.i. to sit and if we remove this blog it will be easier to discuss other issues but it doesn't mean that we are discussing other issues it doesn't mean that we have established diplomatic relations we have just briefly getting back to your recent visit to the gulf countries you came back from there but you didn't visit saudi arabia were talking about the rising sunni extremism in the region and the threat that they were presents for everyone around. when we talk about regional stability what we really are talking about is iran and saudi arabia and those two dealing in peace with each other do you think that's possible would you go visit saudi arabia
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and of course i would. make an arrangement to visit the countries in the persian gulf region. those discussions were very positive i was prepared to go to saudi arabia then and i'm prepared to say here just waiting for them to invite you be rating for the arrangements to be made and whenever the arrangements are made it's a question of when not if. obviously if you mean iran and saudi arabia about historic relations we have no relations of them bastards or you level there is no no impediment basically if you don't think saudis are afraid of iranian expansions and for example. bell iran does not have a history of expansionism iran is a country there is not use force against any other country in two hundred fifty years and it is in our national security interest to have a stable. peaceful
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area both in the persian gulf region as well as the persian gulf region so with interest. one minute before the end of the show really quick question coming up in a few days president rouhani is going to be there so will be prime minister netanyahu is there any way the two could meet face to. thank you very much for this interview. with us good to be with you. millions around the globe struggle with hunger. what if someone offers
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