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i suspect. they would like to do if you did you know the price is the only industry specifically mention in the constitution. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy shrek. will. never go on i'm sorry and on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going on we go beyond identifying the truth rational debate a real discussion critical issues facing america ready to join the movement then welcome the big city. hall on tara to washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture. activists in aczel texas
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say the thirty earthquakes they have detected since last november the result of hydraulic fracking it's really the price we have to pay for energy independence about that and more internets along liberal rubble also a little food is very cheap here compared to the rest of the world many americans struggle to meet healthy i was a possible that in the richest country in the history of the world people are still struggling with malnutrition and if we want to stop police brutality then we need to end the militarization of our police force tell you how we can do that and it's a daily take. you need to know this this past weekend the last do not use water ban was lifted west virginia more than a week after the devastating chemical spill in charles theoretically that means the west virginian should be able to drink their water without any concern that it's
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still contaminated but of west virginians are still concerned about their drinking water being contaminated and not getting much help. in there governor at a press conference on monday when asked by a reporter of the water was actually safe to drink and use democratic governor earl ray tomblin so it's your decision if you don't feel comfortable drinking or cooking with this water the news bottled water one added that i'm not going to say absolutely one hundred percent that everything is safe but i can say is if you don't feel comfortable don't use it be finished by saying that i'm not a scientist you know i have to rely on the best information that i have this yesterday the company water is safe a saying that the people of west virginia should play scientist they should decide for themselves you know you figure out if your water incentive to drink good play at all tom when might be a democrat in this instance he's taking a very libertarian approach and that comes with a lot of flaws libertarianism assumes that we're all capable of making these kind
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of complex kinds of decisions and assessing actual risks. does or doesn't have a dangerous chemical in particular ones we can't taste or see when regulations to keep us safe before chemical spill and other disasters happen in europe governments and lawmakers proactively address problems of potential disasters to prevent harm to their people as the e.u. government describes it the precautionary principle enables rapid response in the face of a pop scientific data do not permit a complete evaluation of the risk recourse to this principle may for example be used to stop distribution or order withdrawal from the market of products likely to be hazardous all the very mention of the precautionary principle is enough to scare libertarians straight it's essential that we address problems before they happen not after. so is what's going on in west virginia right now a classic example of how libertarianism is
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a flawed system let's rob. joining a precise low level rubble to carry it off executive editor with the daily caller and adam bitly director of online media william j. mccarthy and associates you guys for joining me tonight good to see you both let's start out you heard my response of all you surprised by thomas response on most wanted to respond oh no and isn't this really the problem with libertarianism that it only what what works in an ad or harman or are doing in state in states where the democrats control both houses of the legislature i'm not here to. problem yeah it's a libertarian problem these democrats are going to overturn it that's a silly i actually i prefer what is going to what christie did during hurricane sandy where he actually brutalized them for a while exiled residents of south jersey of the code the the barrier islands in the
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coastal areas there what is his mark in the law doesn't live act that this water is poisoned and individual people don't have the ability to find out how dangerous it is and the governor is saying you be the scientists i'm not aside well he's not a scientist he is not a scientist and i applaud him for saying so yeah he's being completely honest with the people he does or does it does not demonstrate how libertarianism which says wait until there's a harm he's not a liberal or healthy libertarian he's a democratic governor let's this in yet this is a libertarian a this is true absolutely this is everything but you don't mean it's as against since you're telling me that because margaret byrd was around him are you trying to tell me that what a governor says to the people you figure out if your water is safe or not but he's not taking a position that's consistent with a rand paul libertarians not he is not advising anybody to stay are you telling me that any something of any government evidence and it's position that has already issued recommendations lots of lots of agencies have already put out. recommendations state and federal so he doesn't need to add anything he's just the
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governor he's not a scientist he's not out there telling people to take your chances with it i'm not going to talk ok so what he's saying is he's actually acting on data that he's had he's been told by his administration officials again aren't who aren't libertarians who are democrats that he brought in with him they're telling him well the water recording the studies that the government has done the water should be safe to drink if that's libertarianism. i'm completely wrong in my philosophy so you're fine then with big government having been doing the studies and determine you know i'm actually not at all comfortable situation that all those issues become scientists know what i'm saying yes yeah i am saying that i'm saying individuals should take as much responsibility for their own lives as they can including fine you know what i mean i have figured out a lot i don't even know if there really was look if you know what they're getting with strangers are going to go through they're like locusts ok everything's going to be sorted and i think it's going to be eaten bear down so you're going to get what you want it's not just that you time the governor has to tell people why should i be drinking water should be using any water from the tap or not
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a country but i wanted to look up what is paid out or if they die you really think oh pretty well most of us always go hey he's got no money he's a hustler and if anything this shows exactly what libertarianism is a class a law suit you know somebody this shows exactly that libertarian libertarianism is correct which is don't oppose the government do not trust what they civilians that it's a lot of money that this is that this is all they should hear this is a lack of regular and government is going to come out and looked at this they would have seen around this thing they did go out big at the border ok this bird around that it has not been inspected by the e.p.a. the berm around that thing is not you know we squabble when well if we're going to should they live by their own laws then yeah i mean there's more than enough regulation and if it wasn't forth then let people take it in the chops for not enforcing the regulations again it's ok it's broken her state's figuring that every single corrupt thing that can happen happens. constantly speaking c.p.a. is apparently let them down speaking of regulation i had on my radio show today
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that the mirror of as rule aczel texas and he didn't go but a whole bunch of people from his tell this little town of eleven thousand people in texas and they've never had an earthquake in one hundred eighty or so years that there's a recorded history for that town and never there is no knowledge of it and all of a sudden they had thirty earthquakes over about a four week period right after the start of fracking just outside of town and then they they said they've they've petered out over the last week and a week ago the the the state government came in and told the fracking company that it turned out the fracking company was actually lying about how much pressure they were putting into their waste injection wells pumping this waste water back into the into the soil and the government made them dial it back and the earthquakes seem to have stopped but i mean again why are we allowing companies to internalise the profits and then inject this poisonous water this fracking compounds that is poisonous toxic water back into the ground mares concerned about their groundwater he's concerned about earthquakes i mean this is. again there's
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a reason why european countries let's say you know when when when when i look at when i have that way experience a cold winter and a cold summer and then another cold winter and i was ahead of the overall thing is for real everybody tells me i'm not being scientific so you're taking one anecdote and saying that's the trend maybe it's so they're loving you know evidence that you know actually the iraqi ministry will acknowledge that fracking caused earthquakes in ohio i mean i think that fracking caused the earthquake we had here in d.c. well not that's absolute certain the earthquake in d.c. was caused by a one hundred year shift in the water plate and it happens every one hundred one hundred fifteen years now not that we would rather do another two to it could have been to do with shooting a lot of water into the ground and we all know water is the most powerful chemical solvent known to man and it interacts with all the no matter what it was and then make every one hundred percent of the people who've been exposed to water have died . so we know that putting a lot of light it is not so good the bad either as i said it is always right out of
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a doubt because you know there's my headers are excited our water system i am you know i'm maybe i'm humble about humanity this ability really to apply so much pressure to planet earth that it actually changes tectonic behavior or geo you know behavior it's it's it's pretty little beyond yeah isn't it isn't it i mean you know isn't there those old expression don't mess with mother nature and she exactly what you think and to assume that i find out our secrets that's my motto torture of nature to where it's from francis bacon who wrote shakespeare's plays you know he did i should show we did it that you know was there a style of play to know what would you say to say that it's absolutely absurd to think that we have as large of an impact that you know every time we talk water these things happening and that we're causing massive earthquakes that all too we're talking we're talking notices gallons rudolph poisoned water it's not my concern is that but if water has been poisoned and it's been injected into the
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groundwater standing there in the well water if you fracking it goes about it goes more than a mile it goes like eight thousand feet depending on where they're able to see him and then it goes out from there in even if it goes even wider than it went deep so i don't know maybe putting that much water over that big an area i talked to the american he said i didn't think it was if it were cracking you know this is the this is the important what he said he didn't think was the fracking that was causing the earthquakes he thought it was the injection wells where they take the waste stuff from the fresh right the oil companies these gas companies they would have to pay and that's what this company got a lot of texas that's right for injecting too much waste into you know one hundred eighty thousand gallons a minute or an hour some mind boggling number and and it's like why are we saying to the other companies dispose of your own damn waste don't put it in the ground when you don't clean it up. and pay for it why is it wise that the american business model particular for the oil industry is we'll keep all the profits you
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guys pay for the navy to protect our shipping lanes you guys pay for the cleanup after after we're we desolated the end the land i mean why is because the because because they didn't get away with stories are the most deeply in bed with government of all of the industry because i mean if because they've been able to survive they've survived little of one hundred year i politicians ok we found something we really wanted sloan liberal wildlife. live.
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interview and much. only on bombast and only. what about a nice long lubber rummel joining me out in bitly and jim cavanaugh let's get back to it was a study by researchers at the u.c. san francisco has revealed that people have access to guns have an increased risk of both suicide and homicide i mean the fact people with access to guns are two times more likely to commit suicide or be killed that's one hundred percent more likely every year thirty one thousand deaths between suicides and homicides by guns fifty one point eight percent of suicides are gun related sixty six point five percent of homicides in the united states when australia after this the one thousand nine hundred six water in tasmania and australia said ok that's it were horrified by this they actually showed the pictures of the victims on national television and john howard george w.
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bush's good buddy the conservative prime minister the very to the right of the republican party prime ministers that anough the states as they decrease the number of guns in the states tasmania was the first they did the biggest gun buyback and you know you want all across the country suicide rates and homicide rates decreased in each one of those states following the gun buyback program it was absolute relationship and to this day it is held this should we not say actually let me take it a step beyond that should we not say that because the second amendment is archaic right we said slavery was archaic right it was for this other earth that we love as you can see that the first is all. so i can no i won't. think the first of all as i didn't exist without the first of all we still have newspapers but we don't have slavery and the second amendment was passed to protect slavery. for you know the junior ratifying convention the virginians were the guys who were demanding that there be a bill of rights attached that was that was the time that is absolute sort of
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everybody wanted to leave. you know they had to go and so had they been allowed to exercise the second amendment right perhaps slavery what existed i mean explain that mike in the in the fashion in that area claiming that new englanders don't want guns let me going to man is china's laws they're. having let me let me make my point and you can i'll give you all the time you want to combat ok eric so it was the virginians who said we've got to have a bill of rights and it was the virginians specifically patrick henry and george mason who said we have to have it was the second amendment exactly ok here it and patrick henry's concern was that article one of the constitution article one section eight gives congress the power to authorize the military pay for the military in article two gives the president the power to call up the military exclusively and here is this is from the virginia ratifying convention seven hundred eighty eight virginia patrick henry speech he said will they not search that he starts out he says among ten thousand implied powers which they may assume
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they may if we be engaged in a war liberate every one of your slaves if they please in this state there are two hundred thirty six thousand blacks and there are many and several other states may congress not say that every black man must fight did we not see a little of this of the last war the revolutionary war in fact they did they said if you're a slayer and you know you want to fight get free we were not so hard pushed to make emancipation general but acts of assembly passed that every slave who would go to the army would be free they will search that paper you talk in which the government the british army of the american the american army we had we had recently what the british army did get free that happened also with george washington they were going to go the right way there were a couple of generals who offered southern states water and wash it was a. i forgot his name anyway he says they will search their papers are for the constitution this is where he's arguing for the second amendment they will search that paper and see if they have the power of manumission to free slaves and have they not sir had they not power to provide for the general defense and welfare and may not think that these call for the abolition of slavery may they not crowds all
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slaves free will they not be warranted by their power in the same situation i see a great deal of the property of the people of virginia in jeopardy they would be the slaves but it is is it practicable i any human means to liberate them without producing the most dreadful and ruinous consequences keep in mind patrick henry was the largest slave and state of virginia ok so isn't it time to say the second amendment is there that's why it says a road where you laid militia being essential necessary to the security of a free state the state militias were called slave patrols in the southern states it doesn't say a free nation and they practiced gun control to keep arms away from slaves right and keep them in the hands of the militia who they were delicious part of the population that's all in all it was lots i know i mean there's all that's what i'm saying for a very negative the root of it and you're right why would she want to give away what i don't want to tell ever the right one and i would you want to give away a right to protect yourself from falling into the exact same trap that we saw all
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of our forefathers deal with which is the problem of us lavery why would you why would you want to give away your protection your right i don't think that i have i don't think that i have a favorite. right because you can have a gun because you labor is no longer an spirit of the united states are you going to buy a set of wal-mart as you have the right to free speech if the right you have the right not to have troops quarter in your home without your consent. and you have a right against self incrimination and so on and so forth and in fact you supposedly have all other rights that are not specifically enumerated in the constitution i don't know how that works but to. why is that weapon i'd slate so what's my point problem we the second amendment was written so that it says for the free state they wanted to make sure that the federal government wide open eyes hoshi constitution patrick kennedy would be authorized about it and thought over the top it's not free they want right they only or they were northerners who controlled part of the bible been written out of history the first six years of our
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country based on the first six hundred sixty peacetime years of our country were under this thing that the all you got its guns out of the articles of confederation no one sentence in your high school textbook that tells you as make failures that economical i have but it is much time to say it was massive areas we no longer have the knowledge we no longer have a well regulated militia which is how patrick henry refers to the slave patrols we no longer have already led militia so it's not necessary for the security of a free state hubbard to keep to place a slave labor slave state and therefore the right of the people to keep and bear arms and look and be of that small lead right there is something that short and sweet and it's part of our law already going into the hands of vestiges always reach right here i'm not sure i wouldn't be able to cry is over what's wrong with owning a gun tell me right now what is wrong with private citizens if all fighting citizens i want to go don't tell you very simply to go but we have heard this first of all city that will can't speak. speak it as some know you have a good idea but you're speaking to somebody who is a sports shooter i mean i use guns i am familiar with guns i would be unfair to
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guns what do you gun i don't hunt i hunt targets and skeet i've shot skeet. you know they are very dangerous. they're great fun actually but you know what i would say is that what we know is that homicide and suicide at least a significant percentage of the time probably in the neighborhood of thirty to fifty percent of the time are acts of impulse and if you have a deadly weapon at hand like yours or gone yeah right or not yeah for them as i believe it and what happened in the us is i believe the right to commit suicide is one here under numerated right so if a handgun makes it easier for the hold that against you to see that's that's the problem they. gun does make it easier and most of the time when people are trying to commit suicide they're not actually trying to commit suicide they're yelling for help right now if they take it over to snow you know to just you know the hour before their spouse gets home or they take you know whatever it is and what what they found in australia is that when they got rid of the guns suicide rate dropped significantly and tom let's back out as well i thought it was exodus of thunderdome
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i tuned out of australia i don't care that i will move on public unions just in the supreme court heard oral arguments and here is to be quit and and basically you know this is supposed to be this are the supreme court case was supposed to be about whether or not these home health care workers people who go into people's homes and work who are represented by a union and paid by the state whether they're state employees because they're paid by the state or whether they're independent contractors because they get to determine the times and places of their work and hours of their work but that's really not what got argued before the supreme court as you both know what really got argued before the supreme court was whether a public employees employees people who are being paid by government should have the right to unionize and that's what the court is going to rule on just like with citizens united you know it was supposed to be about it about mccain feingold and it turned out being being about something all to give it was about compulsory unionization of public workers in a very specific instance in cases where in this state you're if you're
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a relative caregiver this was the case that was born might be required but all that you know that really it's on the religious way attention to the specifics of the case well because i have an actual and i'm an american standing up for his or her actual american rights these are people saying we shouldn't be forced to join this union because i'm taking care of my own i shouldn't need to join an uncle going to actually read or hear about right i actually read the it's only ninety pages you know the pleadings in the korea state and the whole bunch of it on the air yesterday and the attorney for the anti-union group the found miss harrison brought this thing forward was saying essentially in fact was asked you know right up front are you saying that you know public unions should not exist that public employees. should have the right to unionize and he was essentially saying yes one saying we're trying to establish a totally legitimate argument i mean that was the that was the argument until the sixty's right that was basically what america thought didn't believe that the military should be able to unionize we didn't think that you know those guys even had very broad definition of military dollars and my background and here are trying
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to force poll workers back to strike back to work on the basis that this is a necessary and i know and we and we here's injuries if you want a period it was a walk period of american history we don't want to go back there a big problem we want to keep public employees there's no doubt we want to we want to get rid of them they grew up in that period there are there are a fungus that so they are workers workers should not be able to organize in the event a little while you do you should have those how this did that when it can do the following thing first they get public employees on board so they have the they represent the employees inside of the government they then turn around in campaign for the people that will be the that manage that system look everything you lose is felons the campaign public employees get one hundred percent of that last i understand and then look and third and that's what we're going to you're right you're right i golly story the union can fund a campaign and basically pick their employer so but on the other hand the koch brothers can say you know ok we've got this this factory and we want to have these
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regulations they can hope they could've been lurking but i knew they were somewhere what is the flip side of this if i'm saying if you go to trial there if you want a nibble if your action the argument that you're making is this an anti citizens united argument the argument that you're making is about money in politics and if you're to make an argument of money in politics i'm with you i'm so i'm saying let's say money is not protected under the first amendment it is not it is proper not something that is protected ok i'm going to help you get your message jethmalani is protected been why is he going to tell me not protect what's in it then why is the unions money not protected it is there for spending money there's not forced the what you want if you want to judge that you want to. say they're not shouldn't be about going to your you again you're going beyond the specifics of this case this as will a court i'll be on your horse me when i have the sense you know i'm not sure i have that many family members i really feel like taking care of but if god forbid that should come to pass i would not want to have to join a union to do it that's what this case is about. but it's not what i do i certainly
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members i would gladly give eric over sorry are you not acknowledging the there's a real probability that the supreme court is going to make this a lot bigger than just whether or not these people are are it's definitely possible you know possible any candidate or contractor they have a long history of them and then they use this or does it pretty narrowly really sort of the united was narrow i mean they blew up one hundred years of stare decisis. here's here's the problem going all the way back to ninety eight ninety seven of the tillman i mean it's you know they they tried to change things as little as possible even the kilo decision which i think is the worst supreme court decision of my ok once again something we agree on adam bitly jim cavanaugh thank you for trying thank you very much of good to see coming up if you tried finding health food lately in your local grocery store it's nearly impossible and what you eat what you do find is way overpriced luckily the dutch have found the secret to healthy food affordable prices we'll talk about their recipe for success after the break.
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technology innovation all the developments from around russia to the future covered. i know c.n.n. the m.s.m. b.c. fox news have taken some not slightly but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's close and for the truth from i think. it's because when full attention and the mainstream media works side by side the joke is actually on here. and our teen years we have a different brain. ok because the news of the world just is not this funny
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