now after five years of silence there is again hope. for the world's most powerful diplomats brokering a deal is a question of glory for israel and palestine it is about the very survival how much are they willing to give up to end bloodshed in the holy land. is peace finally coming to the middle east. it's really great to have you on our program today a palestinian foreign minister welcome so mahmoud abbas has said recently that good progress has been made in negotiations with israel and there's a possibility of prolonging the talks so what have the palestinian negotiators minutes to get from these right side at this point. well first of all the person who is in charge how to sponsor will to declare if there isn't a progress in the negotiations is secure that it carry nobody else says.

we cannot talk about throw to us or lack of progress. are we going to perspire to prolong and no one is talking about prolonging the. already allocated time for the negotiations which is really nine months we have rated it it. clearly that we are sticking to the. original dates which should end by the twenty ninth of. april this month this year and so i mean talk about prolonging the negotiations or little oaks is. premature. and lacks of course knowledge of the status of the negotiations if we reach a stage worth it what is needed is an extra day to arrive at an agreement that needs to be signed maybe we'll talk about prolonging it with an

extra day but i don't think based on what we have seen so far that there is a need for prolonging the negotiations what are the main obstacles that the point that remain. the main obstacles are very clear if you know that israel is not seriously interested in the negotiations they are using the negotiations as means to. maintain the status quo to build more settlements and to put the blame on the palestinians when they try to divert the negotiations from the original final status issues into the newly presented issues like the jewish nation of the state of israel. security arrangements on the jordan valley these are not the issues of the final status that has we have agreed

to discuss since launch into the so it's very clear that introducing a new a new top picks in the last minute is a reflection of israeli intentions to divert attention to bring. problematic issues on the table and although for the negotiations to reach a total deadlock mr abbas also said that if the negotiations fail then palestine would revert to other options what are the other options well you know we don't have that many options other options we have only one option if the negotiations really fail then of course we have to go either to an international conference and we have been talking for so many years about the international conference in most schools. you know as as

a continuation of international collective efforts to bring about a solution to the conflict or we will go back to the united nations seeking membership to all specialized agencies applying to sign protocols and conventions and seeking. membership in the united nations so palestine a second full membership in the united states depends on imagination's united nations depends on a negotiation well. we have committed ourselves to in nine months periods and we are respecting that we are not going to do anything you know until the twenty ninth of april after that we will see what are the outcomes and what are the options and so until this moment we should not talk about plan b.

rather than you know trying to see how we could maximize the existing efforts to make the current what's initiated by secretary kerry a successful and well palestine except yours alone as a capital for chapbook to uncap. forclose states we are accepting jerusalem to be an open city west jerusalem as capital of israel and its euro zone as the capital of palestine and that people can move freely from east to west from west to east without any problem respecting the religious freedom for all religions and this is really how jerusalem should should look like what do you think of the canadian proposal to establish international control for the l.c.d. . well. i was a word of these. what you call it. slash non-official

kind of if it's. canadian if it's just to present some ideas to told you the whole city of jerusalem but this is really only one off so many other floating ideas about jerusalem and old city old or holy sites within within jerusalem the use of them is the capital of palestine and we cannot accept anything less than the issues of them being the capital of palestine internationalizing the city or bringing an international body or international force to over see you know the city is unacceptable. you know and that's why. canadian words appreciated but you know could stay as an exercise what you call it academy exercise

that was done by a group of. academic slashes former diplomats who tried really just to engage to use canadian funds to do some kind of academic work. one would have us has also said recently that. they write for the palestinian refugees and their descendants to return to the territories of israel cannot be negotiated away so is their right to return more important than the establishment of the palestinian statehood no no. they issue of refugees rather than the right of for it is one of the finest such sisters and we want three to six to solve the decision as much as we want to solve the other pending issues so the right of return is part of you know there's questions about how to solve the issue you know they show that if you choose. i want to remind you that former

president clinton in two thousand has a presented what so called clinton but i metas to try to read the soul of you know that if you g. issue underfeed you problem and at that particular time you know he made reference to four categories one category is that you know. where the are today in the hosting countries pending that the hosting countries will accept that and then do we get compensation they are in the are in syria they are in lebanon sitter the second. is that you know to to to go to a third country and this is really pending that the third country will accept them could be united states would be kind of that would be it says it says that the third option is that you know they will go back to the state of palestine when the

state of palestine let me that's what i'm asking could that be an option to substitute to the absolutely absolutely because israel would know that no no accept will not accept that's their problem but you know the solution should overcome what they accept or not accept because we are talking about an international. that's withhold the problem and the problem is not is not want to be sold only by israel. it has to do with also the international involvement in finding a solution to this problem of the pursuit of fiji's since one thousand. state could be an option for an alternative and the fourth option is that you know it's symbolic numbers. we go back to the concept of israel bending that is also we'll accept. each application. break now and we'll be back with. talk about the. palestinian prisoners and also proposal

of john kerry. palestinian presence on and. on june sixteenth one thousand forty one we had a graduation party at school and the wall. shops were always full of goods. in september.

it was the main storage place for all the food in the city people. eating the earth because it had small traces of sugar in it i tried to eat it as well but i couldn't . look at the lists incredibly heavy bombing. it was a direct hit on that very shelter and everyone was buried underneath them. all of them with dead.

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now we're back with the palestinian foreign minister maliki here in moscow foreign minister there is this question that arose recently about palestinians recognizing the jewish state i know that there is a large arab minority on that but will you recognize that there will you recognize the jewish state if they recognized a palestinian statehood not that he would never have to. israel as the jewish state would never do that's. any other country could do that no problem israel could call itself whatever name that's not a problem. this country used to be so the soviet union has right now it's russian federation. iran used to be. what you.

are singing higher version of right now it's free there's limits republic of iran libya used to be something and then move to something libya each country could call itself whatever. it likes and then they will apply to the united nations and asking for changing the name this is really so severe and decision it's not really pending on me accepting or not accepting now when it comes to me then there is a what you call it international law international law oversights you know what you call it sort of decisions and if this sort of decision is really consider this when the international international support proceeds this is really very important now when it comes to this issue in particular why the israelis today and not when they were negotiating during all slow or even after or slow why you know why hasn't

one side actually this is not quite this is there in israel think doesn't matter one iota absolutely because because netanyahu wants to complicate matters and once three to prevent. reaching a solution to the conflict he doesn't want to indication he doesn't want to see an independent palestinian state so he brings into the table the complicated issue like this knowing in advance that the palestinians will say no and he will keep insisting that he not this issue will was never you know an issue of negotiations and when we have agreed that there will be a final status issues we identified them as six. by necessity issues this is this this issue was never part of that six one as those issues why we cannot accept this first of all because you know if we accept israel as a jewish state then we are accepting their national narrative. and if we accept did

nationalist if then you know we are we are considering our own national that it is about our connection to the land and about our need to establish an independent us in states they there should be certain compromise about that method of narrative and our narrative you know the moments that's the ask for forgiveness there's or not it is then you know we are considering our own this is we do something that we cannot see accept secondly we do what about the future of one point two or one point five million palestinians while living in state of israel as a minority a huge minority and if israel wants to turn itself into the jewish state then you know what will happen to such people i would fear that either there will be expelled or they will their rights will be reduced from being from

having political rights into having give no only what school so called you know. practical. rights one and that's the heart of all that the subject of negotiations in palestine thought it was possible to recognize all the points that you're saying right now could be part of negotiations no what's really a part of the negotiations is the six issues that we have a agreed upon according to the month and we operate we were invited to come back on to find the solution for the six final status issues if israel wants to as i said wants to call itself. the jewish state of the zionists nation of israel it's up to them to the stupid to call themselves such a name they have to ask that it nations to change their name we have asked them.

nations that we should enjoy would name from police done into state of palestine they have accepted right now our members city of palestine so it's up to them to decide and that is they don't need you know approval you know for such an appeal occasion when you're talking about connections to the land israel insists on keeping jewish settlements on the occupied territories where at least when it comes to jerusalem and heights of jerusalem it happened on campus and agreed to that if there is an equal swap on land that is proposed look you know. in order to show our readiness to compromise. we have accepted. you know for free the principle of total swap. acknowledging maybe israel needs certain territorial modifications in order to

define final borders and so in principle principle we have agreed to this now when we sit to negotiate we will start negotiating about where and how the percentage their issues one. part of that land in this area because of it's of education it's really equivalent to that amount of land you know in other parts of . less developed etc etc this is really a technical matter that will be discussed but the principle has been really i can eat and we have no problem you know just to to to continue discussing about the retore as well mr kerry has also proposed a joint israeli palestinian presence on the west bank jordan border but israel insists on idea of control well at palace and we continue to insist on international presence there against any involvement. didn't you just you know. just you know. thought of what's you know the line of

questions first of all you were asking about us recognizing the jewish nature of the state then us accepting you know the settlement situation then us accepting israel having almost a third minutes military presence i don't know what kind of palestinian state it will look like you know under such israeli is it's extra what you call it condition as i think you know if we are going to reach an agreement with with the israelis as israelis have to accept the fact that you know a capacious has to end their whole germany over the palestinian life and future has to stop and they have to realize that you know they have to let go of the occupation and the notion of his own money and to allow the palestinians to have

a free you know life to plan their own future until have sowed entity over their own territory but you know to add conditions conditions conditions to make you know the w.c. and state less and less so that in and under the control of the palestinians this is not going to play i'm just not going to help. us nor the israelis nor the american efforts or the possibility to arrive at a solution to the conflict so the more the israelis are putting conditions the less the possibility that we will reach certain understanding and you know we would advise days early days you know to be realistic and to know that you know we the palestinians we cannot accept anything less than full soden control over all our own territory we cannot accept to live under there's a little patient forever we cannot allow the presence of one single israeli soldier

. on the palestinian territory we cannot accept through the night i think is a jewish states if they will agree then there is a possibility for a peace agreement if not then of course as you have asked at the beginning what are the options and they told you that there are also few options but you know available options for the palestinians. you actually asked my next question i was going to ask you what the ideal outcome of the negotiations would be. to the latest news is there al has recently released and thirty eight long serving palestinian prisoners all convicted of killing israelis they're actually promising to release i think twenty six more in the months to come so i mean i think television is waiting for something in return yes of course of course well first of all let me let me just explain one thing first of all yes maybe the palestinians who have been imprisoned for killing israelis but you know i might ask you know who killed this

thousands and thousands of palestinians i know people from from from. the israeli soldiers so it's the resources also an israeli politicians are also they have blood on their hands with blood on that hand so when the we are when we are in conflict one has to let go also the fact that you know accusing one son of neglecting you know the participation of the same crime by the other side now when it comes to this issue of the releasing of. prisoners. kerry came to us and he stuck to the two deals one deal that you know we restart negotiations and that negotiations will end by twenty ninth of april hoping that then we will reach a peace agreement between israel and palestine the second deal he said i know and

they. herts that you the palestinians are preparing to go to the united nations on top like for membership to the different you and agencies to sign to agreements and conventions how could i carry convince you not to go or to perform going we said no one will convince us he said what kind of price you expect in order for you to perspire on going we said if israel would release the hundred for a scene of prisoners who are imprisoned before to agreement then we will agree to postpone going to the united nations on top life for membership for a period of nine months or so period of nine months has been mentioned in the two two agreements. twice but you know this is a very different different agreement that we have reached with kerry and with netanyahu netanyahu accepted that to release the hundred and four policy and

political prisoners on the exchange that we the palestinians would refrain from applying to membership to all due unspecialized agencies and not signing to any protocol that you and protocol so releasing of prisoners we have paid the price already in advance we have agreed not to apply to membership to all these agencies so the price is being really paid and we are not going to pay you know twice. but those prisoners really got a hero's welcome and how little of the muslim you know there's a religion that was the soldiers who killed the palestinians are also the created literally created by the israeli government this is also part of the not active this is really a part of the history in israel and palestine you cannot pinpoint at what we do in receiving you know the police palestinian prisoners as heroes and you know don't really and overlook or you know how the israelis. is it treats you know their

soldiers and the army and the settlers who killed the palestinians and then received also heroes you know this is really the. way to stay with us as long as the problem exists when we conclude an agreement and when we move from the state of war and conflict into a state of peace and cooperation then you know we could review members how how we treated each other along the way but until until then these issues you know we come we go people one might focus on them or not but the end of the day you know it's like a matter of what you see about palestine just you go look at it exactly it has you know it was supposed to teach exactly what the israeli side absolutely exactly . like you matter so when you talk about how we receive our prisoners

always remembers how the israelis receive their soldiers on the settlers who can post in prime minister thank you very much for. the best to come thank you. china for example growing exactly the way the west school they're creating more credit in the system they're creating more debt in the system and the rich are getting richer and the poor are staying poor eight hundred million people live a little less than fifteen dollars a day in china and that doesn't seem to be changing it's the number one problem the chinese government has right now you know it seems to me that what the rich have

done. you know they made themselves so comfortable but in the process of destroying the entire process of where they got their wealth from the first place the government stood me to look at people's welfare to worry about these into generational things that. i think if you're a billionaire as i say this is a real. that these people were going to be sort of lights at the top of the. majority what to do. you know. how do you operate. sports such. as roof not an olympic hockey. league and my fire.

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