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separation of church and state is a notion ingrained into the minds of nearly every us citizen with a cursory knowledge of american history although this exact phrase does not appear in the constitution the language of the first and fourth amendments makes it crystal clear that government cannot force public officials to support a specific church nor make any laws regarding the establishment of an official religion with this in mind what happened recently in a public school and was in a should concern religious atheist and agnostic citizens alike last week the a.c.l.u. filed a lawsuit against a neg high school for threatening
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a student to change his buddhist beliefs in order to conform with a curriculum that promotes creationism instead of evolution according to the lawsuit six grade teacher reader roark gave her students a test with this exact question isn't it amazing what the blank. did the correct answer though ward yes how it's been written and what appears to be a you tube troll language i think it's safe to say that the question promotes a certain subjective agenda the boy in the lawsuit only identified as c.c. to protect his identity unfortunately got this one wrong because as a buddhist he said he didn't believe in god mr bork allegedly respond by saying you're stupid if you don't believe in god and also describe both buddhism and hinduism as stupid now if you think this is just about a road teacher promoting her own belief system on national children think again because what happened next demonstrates louisiana's advocacy and codification of.
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this type of teaching and taxpayer funded schools after the incident cc's parents confronted the parish superintendent barb and expressed their concerns about how their son had been treated the barb allegedly responded by telling them that this is the bible belt and they shouldn't be offended to see god here don't worry is a private solutions oriented educator she also had some turmeric hearns of advice for the child's parents either change your faith or or transfer to another school where there are quote more asians wow call me racist but don't call me subtle unfortunately this kind of ideological warfare america's children is not unique to the buy you state along with louisiana tennessee also permits public school teachers to teach quote alternatives to evolution on the taxpayer dime and texas more than seventeen thousand students are enrolled in a one public charter system which provides a biology textbook that states and i mean you know i mean god created the heavens
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and the earth where i heard that phrase before yes under the context of biology schools teaching women that they came from a man's rib listen it's one thing to teach religion to children in a religious studies class but it's another thing entirely to promote divine intervention as fact and a public school biology class. this is the kind of thing we argued about back in one thousand twenty five when teaching evolution was considered a violation of state law that was eighty nine years ago do you think it's time we evolved. the rise of genetically modified crops has ushered in countless legal battles between farmers and the ag giant monsanto while monsanto holds patents on crop
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seeds all around the world it's nearly impossible to contain the spread of these plants it's because of this that g.m.o. is often cross pollinate with neighboring farms and when this happens monsanto often sues the farmer for patent infringement take the case of australian farmer steve marsh who lost his organic certification after g.m. scenes from his neighbor's farm contaminated his all were ghana crops but because fighting monsanto would be a losing battle marsh is trying to different approach he's suing his neighbor instead the trial is expected to be a landmark case that could determine the rights of all farmers seeking protection against g.m. contamination to talk about the president this case will set a good or bad i spoke earlier to scott kinnear who's leading the campaign for steve marshall and he's the director of the safe food foundation and first ask scott to explain the importance of maintaining organic standards. illegally passionately organic agriculture and more importantly for people who might not be familiar it's
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really biological agriculture so it's working with the soils to achieve optimum plant and of course that's the optimum showed that we should be getting the future and he was a good income from it. and he had it ripped away from him by this contamination into the eighty's which very hard to claim he's from trying to do certification back and the in presumably he will start from you get organically in the meantime he's lost hundreds of thousands of dollars and that's what he's sick each recount really cool but more importantly it's a case for john principle it's about who's going to pay for the cost of contamination of genetically modified crops on normal g.m. and organic crops and where is that responsibility going to i way believe it should be with the genetically modified industry and not. suffering at the plight of germination the organic industry or the known gene industry why take the farmer to court and not monsanto. look very good question it's the it's the last thing that
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steve or the way you want to do. is something that is very unpleasant it's destructive this community it's torn the community apart i think it's a failure of legislation suffice to say that in this particular case the other side the other families being well supported by a pro team lobby group so it is a case on principle we don't think this will open the floodgates for litigation farmer against farmer that's not going to happen it's too expensive it's multi multi millions of dollars it's got its farmers don't have that sort of money it's really about setting a precedent or you know astray and using on and it will guide the development of little round the world and it will raise this issue as it surely in the public consciousness about do we want to have the right to a g. and free food do we want to have that choice because if we don't have this principle and strong minded will then we will ultimately lose that right now i know there's a lot of contamination in north america here in canada we certainly don't want to
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see that happen in a strike and we're fighting very hard to stop it and of course europe is fighting very hard to stop that as well let's get to that legal precedent on one side and yeah i mean it's a hard situation because i don't blame the g.m. farmers i mean what i want to do build adele most of their crops i mean it's a tough one you mention the jam lobby being involved how are they getting involved with this case. well they've started a fighting fun through a family group prodigy and family group in western australia and you make a very good point about the difficulty food genetically modified farmers they they have a right to enter leaving the using of technology that's been approved by the government and i should say that we don't approve of the regulatory system we think the regulator a system is a failure and we in fact will not shout if the response was from june. yes it really is designed to protect the game industry but the gene fama can do more to stop contamination there and i bought zines and we'd like to see buffer zones
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established and that would do an enormous amount to stop in time and i should and in this particular instance we can all it would have made and more an enormous difference as well but poland flowers the other mind problem for can all it to can all up jane can all its non-game can all up and we know from research that that is enormously reduced by having reasonable buffer zone compliance as it stands australia is governed provides no legal protection for farmers against contamination what president would have said if he wins and australia and also what about internationally. will would set a very important precision in australia and that preceded it would be about shifting that responsibility you would make the very clear around the facts of g.m. so we have very good common lawrence driving around negligence hughson so that's very much establishing that all neighbors have go to judy of kid to each other and around the facts of g.m. this case would establish that there are reasonable steps that jim families must
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try to ensure that they don't breach that duty of care that they don't have an enabler and so this case would set that president and for example a non g.m. farmer would simply be able to go on a taste for example riots or any sort of area of land near they found that could cause contamination of their farm and then ask the adjacent neighbor to either push back where that came can all that was or if it was a road side to clean up that jim and all on the right side of the it will remove that source of contamination it's going to unequivocally push back that responsibility onto the g.m. industry which is where it should lie other countries around the world stablished for example spying have established compensation plans paid for by the gaming industry we would like to see something like that established in stride and in many other countries around the world this. country is so terrified of monsanto that states can't even pass laws that their constituents vote for to label these foods i mean this is how much power the industry has in this country the converse of though
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is if this case is the last would it mean that farmers would never be able to seek damages or protect their organic certification in the future i mean would it be that the president sat on the wrong way. to be very much would be and if steve had not taken the case that ultimately the organic industry here would have continued to have to decertify farms that have contamination the most founds would losing would drop out of the system and we would have that right to eat organic and why and so why do you think he's critical if we do lose it makes a case in the court of public opinion for us to have the legislation challenge to for us to have compensation fund established and for us to get now whole titian's to put in place legislation that in fact can impose buffer zones can impose reasonable practices on the game industry the public consciousness is rising and certainly doesn't want to chairman of the food supply so i think there's a very good crisis loses to china to the rules and ultimately achieve our objective
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that way now but it will take a lot more time and a lot more money and a lot more pain and suffering we've already been through what we've been a sort of the law is like i'm sure you know all the fights definitely not and even with this case but i'm glad the case is happening it's definitely an issue that is deep in the public spotlight say food foundation setting up a fundraiser on behalf of steve everyone check it out thank you so much scott kinnear director safe and foundation for coming on breaking it down. thanks so much abbie if you're interested in this. coming up a break a thought on the world's most popular digital currency quite. a. gentleman i guess you almost.
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see if you've got a few hundred a day come across it honestly. i'm getting so sick of. it we've got people coming in with criminals where you have people from who knows where in the world this is the united states i'm very tough by the way you go to sure but i was worried that they may not know why they live on mars you know mars. so we pick up things like. turbans prayer rugs so when we know they do they're coming from the middle east same concentration camp. concentration camp. we've got it hasn't the white house has not even one of the disclosed the fact that he is a stranger.
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right on the scene. first for you and i think pictures. on our reporters twitter. and instagram. to be in the know. on my. science technology innovation all the latest developments from around russia we've got the future covered. understanding the way markets work can be difficult through a nuanced approaches like the centralization and crypto currencies and things can seem even more complicated and while notions like digital black markets and non
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national currencies may have seemed futuristic only a few years ago today peer to peer anonymous exchanges like big coin is allowing near an entirely new way for the global community to think about financial systems knowing how cutting edge but point is that having such a little understanding of how it actually works i decided to speak to andreas antonopoulos founder of real live and co-host of let's talk a bit coin i first asked him to break down exactly how that claim works and why it's so important a decentralized system of money. between at first glance is digital money but if you look at it deeper you realize that that is just one of the applications enabled by an underlying network that allows a distributed system of computers to build a global assets ledger so like a list of transactions for the entire world to chose who will and swap equipment when and that's based on a really fundamental in french and that allows computers to coordinate in that way
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without the central office already and the thing is the central authorities and money traditionally are used as leverage of power either to inflate the currency and cause it to lose value which is essentially a form of confiscation or hidden taxation when your savings accounts depletes in its purchasing power because the central government is printing money to finance its own activities so you know the idea of a decentralized currency is important because it removes those leaders of power the people can exploit to corrupt the currency so in this global network everything runs based on simp. a mathematical rules fixed number of coins are issued every ten minutes and that amount decreases over time so that eventually only twenty one million bit coins will be issued and that creates a fixed monetary supply which has some interesting characteristics from an economic perspective but all of this is done simply by consensus it's impossible to cheat
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the system because once you've done the work it's in your interest to actually get the system rewards rather than try to cheat the system can you elaborate on how centralized systems don't exist in nature sure so presents a decentralized system and decentralized systems are usually the way nature organizes things so in nature you don't see hierarchical systems very much in fact usually what you see is these loosely coupled decentralized systems that create emergence and complex behavior based on some very simple rules repeated by thousands of members a perfect example of that is an ad colony like the leaf cutter ants where individual members are extremely simple organisms you can even simulate a single ant on a computer but you put several hundreds of thousands or even millions of ants together into a colony and they exhibit incredibly complex behavior that leave colorado for example farms aphids as a farm species like
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a domesticated species the way we farm cattle and that's an incredibly complex sophisticated behavior but it doesn't exist in any of the individual members it's something that emerges from the complex interaction of simple rules because when is a system that exhibits extremely complex emergent behavior but it's based on a few very simple rules that are followed by all of the members of the network someone who sits atop of a hierarchical system as c.e.o. of j.p. morgan chase jamie dimon he recently denounced to coin predicting that it's going to fail right now bit quiet still experimental phase similar to what the internet was in the early ninety's what do your response in diamonds prediction. it's very difficult for people who have lived their entire life in a hierarchical system especially at the top of a hierarchical system and gain the benefits that come from that including the ability to exhibit rent seeking behaviors and to avoid prosecution for fraud that would put other people in jail a long time ago and then be able to sit down and have a buddy buddy conversation with the secretary of treasury without anyone blinking
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an eye when they sit down and discuss competitive technologies and chuckle about them i don't think jamie dimon really understands but coyne but that's not surprising it's not his role to understand the competing technologies because really he's in such a comfortable position whereby he can just receive seventy billion dollars of free money from the fed in the form of corporate welfare and doesn't have to compete and you see this across the financial services industry work competition is stagnant really they compete on who can financial wise the derivative to exploit the market better or who can frontrunner frontrunners sales and stock transactions on the high frequency trading network but in terms of consumer innovation very little has happened in the last fifty years speaking of u.s. treasury secretary jack lew recently said that bitcoin gives individuals a place to hide and allow for the funding of terrorist activities what's your response especially in light of the two new york executives who were just charged
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with conspiracy to commit many money laundering excuse me by selling over one million dollars and quine's to the black market website so prone well because it actually offers a scale of anonymity to full disclosure of identity on bitcoin it's actually harder to do strong anonymity whereas it's easier to do strong transparency one of the things we've seen in that they quite network has the ability for charities and her public responsibility organizations or publicly accountable organizations to operate an open set of accounts and open books where everyone can see exactly what's go. and so if you want you can use bitcoin to deliver extreme fairness and transparency and so far there doesn't seem to be any indication that law enforcement organizations have any trouble tracking town transactions on pit coins using old fashioned police activities i think in fact bitcoin is far more transparent than our current financial system if you ask for
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example economists they have no idea what the full size of the hedge fund market is or what the full size of leveraged debt is because no one knows a lot of this happens on closed markets where there's no accountability while the price of bitcoin fluctuates day to day right now on one bitcoin cost seven hundred seventy six dollars how can this currency become accessible to someone who isn't willing to spend a small fortune on an unstable investment. so i think it's important to recognize that. one bitcoin is not necessarily the unit you buy just like for example at the moment it's probably about forty five thousand dollars to buy a bar of gold no one goes out and buys a whole bar of gold when they want to invest in gold what they buy is a fraction of it and you can buy a fraction of a bit coin you can buy as little as ten dollars on the markets i buy every week and i often buy as little as ten or twenty dollars in order to increase my investment and bitcoin so it's very easy to add to the markets and one of the easiest ways is
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to use a site like local biquad stockholm to find someone in your area who is willing to sell you a small amount of a coin for cash in a safe transaction with a full escrow capability so you can get cheated in a public place a park or starbucks and you can buy some bitcoin or you can take a product and service that you can offer and sell it to people for bitcoin that's also very easy to do so the market is much more accessible than think people think but a lot of the friction is really at the edges and it's caused by the regulators who are stomping on the whole of the exchanges not providing a lot of clarity in the regulation and making a very difficult for people. to transact between currencies once you're in the bitcoin system things become surprisingly fast and fluid an easy to use and so that actually ends up revealing the difficulties and complexities of dealing with old style currencies do you worry that decline will be like any other bubble and crash eventually and if so will other digital currency fill the void well the price has
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collapsed for types already so you know bubbles tend to inflate once and then kolob spectacularly they don't tend to go up in price and when they have a setback bounce back again just a few months later that is not you know the usual behavior of a bubble because it has already had four major crashes word quickly recovered regaining its old price and then exceeding it quite dramatically you have to realize that because right now at ten billion dollars sounds like a big issues tech stock but is actually a puny tiny little currency and in terms of a currency that is of furry small pool of the quiddity so every time someone sneezes in the media about bitcoin all of the teachers sloshes around and you get the price fluctuations what we've seen is that over time the volatility is decreasing quite dramatically as the volume increases as more and more businesses invest in bitcoin as more and more people like me who earn their income
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a hundred for cents and because to use it for day to day spending the price becomes more and more stable over time i don't think volatility is going to be a big problem meantime while people don't see in the background is hundreds and hundreds of startups that have significant in the innovation that are being invested in by mainstream investors and that are creating thousands of jobs right now so bitcoin is a little island of growth and jobs and opportunity and innovation in a sea of stagnant economy conditions across europe and across the world and across the u.s. i think that point has tremendous but. because if you look behind the price of the currency which can swing quite wildly the technology itself is truly revolutionary and disruptive and it has all of this potential for so many innovations in the financial services industry which frankly hasn't moved far beyond the one nine hundred fifty s. technology is like credit cards big coin is being used right now by thousands of
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people but is this type of currency really feasible unsustainable for the entire planet to use. i think that's an easy question to answer because it is already working globally because it isn't the hundred ninety fourth national currency it's the first transnational currency and sitting here today i pull out my heart phone and pay my subcontractor in bangalore india and they will receive payment in a few seconds i'll pay forty cents to send it they will have to pay nothing to receive it it will be in their smartphone pickling accounts instantly and kind of power can. trade it can revolutionize services and most importantly can start affecting some of the most exploitative markets in the world the remittances market where every here companies like western union extract seventy four billion dollars from the poorest people on the planet just to send money home and with bitcoin we have the opportunity of rebooting those flows of money and allowing migrants immigrant workers in this country to send money home or in other countries forced
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to send money home to their relatives without paying thirty percent or sometimes even forty percent and the poor of the country the higher the feet so there are so many opportunities in the current financial environment not just for innovation but for flattening the fees that are paying for risks introduced by a lack of technology in the existing industry well this movement of decentralizing technology is making people rethink a lot of things that are government in the way the world works how do decentralized systems fit in to the world today decentralized systems allow you to operate at large scale and achieve consensus so it used to be for example that media organizations could only work if you had one large national newspaper and it filtered all views until only a trickle of information reached an audience and it was carefully vetted and we've moved past that with the internet and created opportunities for more people to have a voice because the problems of scale that centralized media solved no longer exist
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in a world of ubiquitous communication so decentralized systems can console. those much better similarly i think in the world of finance we have all of these hierarchical institutions that are trying to solve problems of scale than the longer exist and bitcoin is a perfect example of the ability to achieve consensus on what's true but it's system at massive scale without the need for a central authority so as soon as the need for the central authority goes away the solutions that can come out of that are truly extraordinary thanks so much andrea's on to novelist founder of route eleven co-host of let's talk a bit quiet a really enlightening discussion. that's our show you guys thanks for watching join me again tomorrow when i break the set all over again until then have a great night.
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and kiev take the revolution into their own hunza saying they're fed up with the lack of determination among the opposition. the deep roots of ethnic disputes in the ukraine and will be in my then cuban human. also the us president delivers new promises for a better future in his state of the union speech but also address the public knows longer try to follow through on his words. business when i was a foreign companies are ready to rush back into iran taking advantage of the partial suspension of sanctions following last year's historic new agreement.
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