story made for the movies playing out in real life. jesse ventura is going off the grid we want you to join him he's opinionated of course outspoken american original bucking the political system and doing it in a bare knuckled no holds barred way yes he ventura has a lot of his mind and he's ready to un load it's all on this edition of politicking . politicking jesse ventura on larry king or a t.v. has a new show featuring the former governor jesse ventura the show is called off the grid and that's exactly what jesse is doing he'll join me from his secret location

and welcome to ora t.v. jesse good dad be aboard larry it's great to be here i can't believe that we did an interview probably a little over a year ago when you told me this is where i should be and lo and behold i've ended up here on or a t.v. it's fantastic and i'm indeed off the grid larry and will be moving around constantly so they can never get a fix on me when i broadcast back into the united states ok we're going to talk about off the grid in the next segment we're in a concentrated some politics in this obama's job approval rating is sitting around forty six percent does that surprise you. well it's not really because having been an elected official you realize that whenever you make hard decisions you're going to get people angry at you a lot of people are one issue people so if you go against them whatever that particular issue might be all of

a sudden they don't like you for the other nine things you might do good so you never do hold you know polls like that fluctuate like the wind larry they're going to go up and down depending on which way the political wind happens to be blowing how do you assess how he's doing well i've been extremely disappointed in him because you know he ran to change their ass and benami change were the same country we were under george bush we're still involved in these ridiculous wars we're still we've got everybody under surveillance and all american citizens seem to be potential terrorists that's why they're watching us i guess and that's an amazing thing too larry how can they do that when they do it with my money i don't want them watching me with my money oh gave president obama recently told the new yorker by the way in a fascinating article this is quote there's no doubt that there's some folks who just really dislike me because they don't like the idea of

a black president the flipside is that there are some black folks and maybe some whites who really like mean giving me the benefit of the doubt because i'm black your reaction to that. well i'm certain you know i'm certain it's true to some extent for me it's not i could care less black person white person woman whoever runs the united states of america i will be critical of them i will also support them when it's there to support them and many things like that so. i don't necessarily put a lot of credence in that you have said that the n.s.a. leaker edward snowden who remains in russia on a temporary grant asylum is your personal hero why well he's not necessarily a personal hero but i think he is indeed a hero i can't say personal because i don't know him but to me he's

a hero larry because he caught our government breaking the law and violating the constitution it took great courage to put himself on the line and make this wrong doing no one to the american people and we have every right to know it we have the right to know when our government violates our constitution and our bill of rights and that's what makes him a hero because of the courage he showed in bringing it if if snowden doesn't do that we're still all under surveillance and it's business as usual can anybody sit here and tell me that it's a good idea to have all americans put under surveillance they treat us like we're all potential terrorists and what we're forgetting larry is the main thing they work for us were the boss can you imagine the employees putting the employer under surveillance only place that could possibly happen is in united states government

so why didn't he run why the need to stay and face the music stand trial out of me will my to support him why go to russia. well you know i can't answer what his thinking was clearly he wanted to keep his freedom what he could get out of it and decided the best way to do it it seemed he did it with a lot of a forethought they tell us the best is yet to comment we haven't even seen the best is what i've been reading about hearing about so what could have pot what could possibly be worse larry do they have a photograph while we're all in the shower is that what the government has achieved today i'm not sure i don't know what could be worse than what i've already learned but he obviously felt that he couldn't get away with it by staying in the united states and i can honestly say that i blame him you also have said that if you have the game but if you have president snowden and bradley manning would be pardoned immediately yes a little in there yes i did because they are whistleblowers they are people who

have exposed our government for government wrongdoing for violating our constitution and bill of rights and the government needs to be held accountable it's that simple what gives them the right to violate the constitution what we need now larry our laws were some teeth in it when we catch a government person and let's have investigations where the government doesn't investigate itself when when when we find a government official has violated the constitution at minimum they should be fired if not jail time how come you know it's like it's like everything when we lied to the government as citizens we can go to jail when they lied to us all that's right we go to war when they lie to us don't don't exert law into the stick all the time and the editorials in the new york times and the guardian in london have called for clemency for snow not get you to agree with that absolutely by the way salute lee i

agree with many many concerns about the olympics in sochi security and the like how safe are they would you go. if i were an olympic athlete yes i would it's a chance of a lifetime it's probably the only chance you'll ever have to compete in the olympics i remember back in one thousand nine hundred eighty when we boycotted the summer olympics in the soviet union and my good friend brad rang him sue had won the two hundred twenty pound wrestling greco roman world championships the year before was not allowed to go because of politics in a gun he never got a chance to go after the gold medal so absolutely we should go but when you go as a visitor there's this security the security surrounding this concern you. know i would think that the security of be very good over there i don't think russia wants a black eye in the world and not only that but would i go know larry because i

don't even fly today because of the gestapo we have in the airports i have metal in my body so i'm treated like a criminal every time i go to an airport so i refuse to fly so it be pretty hard for me to get over there unless i want to jump on a liner and after all i'm people getting sick i don't think i'm too quick to want to jump on one of those ships right now all right you are the governor once did you ever tie up a bridge in minnesota because you didn't like the mayor of one of the cities what do you make of governor christie and bridge gate. well i'll tell you it just shows it shows you exactly that they put their parties first and not the country or the people of this city i'll give you an equal example i was trying to put light rail in to minneapolis to bring us into the new century of transportation how are we going to be a big city without mass transit you've got to have it the republicans were my biggest opposition to it and when i took it to the leadership and i tried to

explain that it would go through this neighborhood where most of the people were on welfare and i would give them the opportunity to be mobile and to get jobs you know what the response i got back from the republican leader was i don't have any want to elect a down there i don't give a damn and i sat back and i looked at him innocent but i thought after we're all elected we're all supposed to work for the state of minnesota see they forget about that stuff larry they forget they're there to do the people's work and they allow their political parties and shows that these two parties put their parties in front of the people of the country it was unclear but did it surprise you that a bridge would be tied up for the three days because someone had a bad feelings about a mayor not supporting a governor in the election well it just shows to the level that democrats in the rib ludwick can still go to larry when you're dealing with street gangs like that look what happens for the first lady barbara bush one of my good friends said she

hoped that her son jeb wouldn't run in two thousand and sixteen citing the kennedys the clintons and the bushes she added if we can find more than two or three families to run for high office it's silly you agree with that. you know what i never thought there'd be a day since george w. got out of office that i would ever agree with a bush ever again but lo and behold i stand barbara bush you have governor jesse ventura's full support on that position and she is absolutely correct we are not england we don't have royalty here why should only a certain few families get the opportunity to higher office in this country that wasn't what our country was formed upon our country was formed in a citizen government where you you're a citizen you bring your life experiences to bear in washington and then there's another novel concept when you're don go back to what you used to do like my good

friend senator angus king independent of maine did he got done being governor he went back to the private sector for eight to ten years and now he's back as a senator again but i'm sad but there are some who say of jeb bush ran against hillary clinton we would probably have a very good race well thought out no backstabbing good issues to concern bright americans or the make of that well i would say if jeb bush ends up against hillary clinton that's going to pave the way for jesse ventura to be the next president i.e. say of that with a campaign you would end that race as an independent. i'll put it to you this way i larry if i run as an independent i'll be a true independent and i now can do it right here on or about t.v. if i want to because i have the way to talk to the people now. what what it would

require though is like i've said i would it would be required that i get ballot access in all fifty states and that's going to require a grassroots movement from the country where the show me they would want me to come back for them in the grid you taken me back to ninety two and my guess was ross perot and he said the same thing put me on a ballot in every state now run well that that's what's required if you're an independent because it's different in every state they make it that way so that you have to jump through all the hoops so that they don't get a third choice but the way public sentiment is right now larry i mean i would run on this i would offer the people of america challenge them to elect the first president since george washington the father of our country. that doesn't belong to a political party imagine that and i think the way it is today you could win on that issue alone we're talking with governor jesse ventura on this edition of politicking with larry king yes he's gone off the grid we'll come back and talk

about that right after this. if you take a look very hard to take a. look again. at that fact that here make their feelings. cute. but. the people.

i've got a quote for you. it's pretty tough. to stay with that story and you can get this guy like you would smear that guy's head of working for the people in the mainstream media working for each other right right. up on. the bed rather.

than politicking with larry king our weekly edition and our special guest is jesse ventura he hosts off the grid on ora t.v. i explain that. what do you mean by off the grid well what i mean by off the grid larry is i'm down where there is no electricity and there's no paved roads every all my electricity is received from the sun and so i am not dependent upon any type of government service to provide me with my electricity or anything to make the show available that's called living off the grid so then how can i see you doing now for eight years while you see me because we have electricity but we have electricity from off the grid. so you are in

a secret. i could be i could be in cuba for all you know larry. you know shell in fact my cameraman's we have a director here named fidel and i have a cameraman over here named shea i'm not. not your show is broadcast into what you've called occupied america what are you talking about. america well i'm trying to get people to wake up that you know i drive in and out of the country by car every year because i don't fly anymore and when you come back into the united states it reminds me of going to checkpoint charlie and trying to get into east berlin the only thing missing today are the army tanks and i think they're on their way at any time i just think with our loss of freedoms and what they're doing in our country that i've seen happening now especially in the last decade it's really been accelerated i think that we are a lock down country right now i mean look at the bill that mccain unleavened put

through on the defense bill where they turn the united states military is now free to operate inside the united states come on larry we don't need the military operating inside of our country what purpose does that serve is said on this show that you're going to brazil and stories that people need to hear that they won't hear anywhere else like give an example what you're going to what you're going to talk about. oh i'll give an example we have the death of a great professional wrestler a couple months ago by the name a more recent mad dog fish on and so on my show i'm going to give you stories about things that i did with this crazy man maurice mad dog fish on for all of those wrestlers wrestling fans out there you know i'm not i'm not just going to talk politics i'm going to talk life to people what it's like you know down here what it's like to physically touch gray whales in the wild which i've now done being off the grid but you're not going to be able to do things like that on the grid so

that's one of the great things about idol off the grid great idea one of the people you're talking with during your kickoff week is the former congressman presidential candidate my friend ron paul here's a sample of that conversation let's go to the future a little bit i hear a lot of rumblings that your son rand may make a run for the presidency is that true well it's true that i've heard about that on the media and people ask me about it but i don't have any inside information because my guess is that an individual. you know like rand who has is well known now and his views are out there my guess is that he probably has a ways to go to make a final decision of way makes the decision so early but he's being asked that question a lot and i think when you look at the other candidates looks like he could

do a pretty darn good job well you know it might be kind of interesting if it ran does run defeat took his father for vice president wouldn't that be interesting you know that be a little weird i don't think that's that's going to happen and you have written and spoken admiringly of ron paul in the past what he liked about him. well i liked ron paul when i was doing my t.v. show conspiracy theory he talked to me he was one of the few guys out in the cannon building that would always make time and come on the air be honest tell me how he felt and give me whatever information he could get i view ron paul as a man who doesn't he's not political the way most of them are and worried about his political career he truly believes in the country believes in the constitution he believes in the bill of rights and he's forever fighting for them and he and i have a great many things in common we have our differences but we certainly can overlook those and agree with each other and support each other i find dr paul i miss him not being in congress anymore what about his son. rand i don't know that well i

haven't followed him like i have the father but you know i'll learn more about him affairs for as word filters down through me off the grid because i do keep track even off the grid of what's going on up there on the grid people are saying that he is a potential candidate on the republican ticket you see that. you'd have to ask the republicans that larry i don't try to get into republican and democratic business too much other than to criticize them because i don't want to be one of them and i don't want to be part of any decision making they might do you said in the first segment that you would run for president as they say if you were on the ballot in every state why would you run why would you why would you go into that or adjoining your off the grid you got to have the life why. well i'm still patriotic larry i'm still

a united states citizen and i believe strongly when our forefathers said we were to be vigilant and we were supposed to be a citizen government for it to work. i don't think i have much to worry about because i don't think it's possible to get ballot access in all fifty states. not without spending boatloads of money to do it so i think i'm pretty safe in making that statement there's one other little stipulation to you'd have to be allowed in the debates because if you're not allowed in the debates you have no chance of winning and unfortunately guess who decides who's in the debates the democrats and republicans got in why you haven't heard of perot that in the base yeah he got ya but that was in ninety two when they were under the national league of women voters that then the dems a republican congress immediately took it away from them and they formed the federal debate commission which was run by two former hondros of the democrats in the republicans is that is more writing on the wall do people need to see you said

in the pez that it doesn't matter what party has the presidency is still feel that way absolutely because they're both bought and sold by the same corporate interests when you cover like when you put on a football game if you bet on both teams you're not going to lose any money and that's exactly what they do they pay off both sides at their respective conventions they've got all their bases covered they pick the two candidates and then they evolve the people to pick the one out of their original two that are already picked no it doesn't make any difference people should see that clearly after george bush and barack obama because there isn't anything different between the two of them if you ran to join or be a vice presidential running mate. right now i would choose angus king the senator from maine all right the independent got two term governor and i would pick angus king and lee and he is the best he's

a brilliant man he went back to the private sector for eight to ten years he owes nobody nothing so governor king would be my number one choice during his debut week twenty against was gary johnson has been a guest of ours the former governor of new mexico he was the libertarian party's presidential nominee in two thousand and twelve has a small excerpt of that i for one jumped for joy at the courage of the people of colorado in washington when it was put to a vote voted to decriminalize and make marijuana legal do you feel like i do that this was the breaking of a huge will that's going to break down now and end this ridiculous war on drugs i do jesse i think that this is the tipping point i think california is going to be the next state to follow and the tipping point did you know a couple things one is when everybody gets on an airplane from new york to go to denver for the weekend to chill out states are going to take notice the other thing

is that colorado gets it you know citizens of denver many years ago voted to decriminalize marijuana on a campaign based on marijuana being safer than alcohol having drank having smoked pot neither of which i do today but having done that i've always maintained that legalizing marijuana will lead to less overall substance abuse because people will find this such a safer alternative than alcohol or other drugs when you think of people like gary johnson. well guess i'll tell you what i think about people like gary johnson i proudly went to the poll and cast my vote for him larry i will tell you unequivocally i voted for gary johnson for president of the united states last election because i felt he was the best man for the job. doing this show off the grid and jesse that you're going to rile up a lot of people. i don't know but i know it riles me up so

if if that's good enough because i love the idea of doing this off the grid because nobody's telling me what to talk about larry when i had my short lived stint at m.s.n. b.c. before they threw me in the dirt because i because i didn't support the war in iraq every day the topics would come down from up stairs that they told me i had to talk about so it isn't really your show when you do the shows on the network like that it's the network show and you just happened to work for them i love or of the t.v. because so far nobody's told me nothing i've been able to talk about i'll get myself in trouble which that i can deal with but m.s.n. and as n.b.c. is a liberal network why would they throw you off if you're against the war in iraq since i presume they were against the war in iraq because they weren't at that time at that time it was two thousand and three and they were trying to be fox lite. they

they had just hired phil donahue and they took phil who was their highest rated show and they threw him off the air to i don't think it mattered whether you're a liberal or democrat at that time you had to support the iraq war or you were not getting on the air phil donahue and i can attest to that what do you make of twenty four hour cable news cable of c.n.n. and fox and emma's and b c. it's great entertainment i don't call it much the news i look to russian t.v. and algis are a much more for my news than i do any of those those are great shows if you want to see a political agenda and if you want to host it well you know push that agenda that's all there more entertainment than they are actual walter cronkite wouldn't be working at any of them larry how about interacting with the fans would you like ordinary citizens you want regular people to be in touch with you absolutely we're going to do segments every show i've asked jesse where i will get they will tell me

what the quick and guess what larry it's not going to be like a presidential debate they're not going to give me the questions three weeks ahead of time to where i have all the spin doctors write out all the answers for me like they do in a typical presidential debate oh they don't give me a question house they don't give him a sure as hell do jesse days or is a zero nine jesse they don't give him the question but koch they've been called george bush with an ear piece in that time where they were given to me answers to an ear piece because he couldn't think of it may have been a man's of a jesse year and the military are antiwar why are you dressed in military garb i'm off the grid i don't know i just think this is this is how che guevara would dress and you know and i are you hiding from someone do you think someone sent a shot at you know you could camouflaged. that's why i'm off the grid larry i can't

do this show and talk about what i'm going to talk about up in the united states they're locked down up there i have to be free this is very larry you're old enough to remember radio free europe should do this is this is internet free america with jesse ventura broadcasting across the grid off the grid back to the united states jesse's allowed to speak freely here without drones hovering over his head and tracking him down we have only a few moments left it's so hard to draw you out jesse every time you with this is good because the mammy tamiya down the middle no strong opinions do you honestly ever miss being governor. yes absolutely i do governor was a great honor i served it to the best of my ability for four years you mistakes like i put in the first leg of the light rail in minnesota i redefined their whole property tax system i cut license tabs to a flat rate of ninety nine dollars

a month instead of a six year graduated sales tax so it's fun to accomplish things while you're in office and that's why if i chose to go back in office i'll do it with a clear head to accomplish things again if i so decide to do that if this ever happened but yeah i miss being governor plus you've got bodyguards larry everyone has to kiss your ass we're out of time love you jesse. thank you larry always a pleasure we thank jesse ventura for joining me today remember you can see jesse's new show at ora dot tv a new show posed at three pm eastern today is through fridays and you never seen anything like it on t.v. or the web well my viewers out there i want to hear from you join the conversation on my facebook page and share your thoughts on twitter by tweeting king's things and using the poll politicking head say that's all for this week's politicking with larry king.

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