destroyed me socially by running a lot of rumors about me in the press the articles that speak about me are always incriminating very negative articles where many things are invented and so they want to destroy me at the media level so belgians will finally have a very bad image of me and say well. he's a villain or is the really the wrong louise only someone who fights against the system in place to try and reveal the truth. physical threats do not yet exist for the moment in the coming months one a stone will say right now you have no political party yourselves who are your support terrorists your allies one of the people you appeal to. well listen i have served there in parliament as an independent m.p. but two months ago i found it a political grassroots movement called rise up belgians and this movement is aimed at all citizens it is true that first and foremost we relate to the disadvantaged

across the middle class in belgium just because these people today are the first who are the victims of zionist and ultra liberal policies of our governments in place and especially of european policy so these are the first people who join us but also many people who are resulting from the second third generation of immigrants who feel that they are given no place in belgium of today and are therefore stigmatized just as i am stigmatized and despised well join me and so rise a belgians is today truly a dissident movement that brings together people who have difficulties in everyday life in society who perhaps do not find their place because society does not want to give them one and who are especially stigmatized. right so let's talk about your political stances for a moment you're against any money being sent to syria what does it mean he just won

here of to stand back and see how the work plays out in syria like gayle all cities . no i think that europe should not finance the war in syria and it is exactly what europe is doing today. europe with the united nations well obviously today we see european states shamefully financing terrorist organizations that are there for the sole purpose of overthrowing a power in place the legitimate power of bashar al assad which is a legitimate power in a country where everything was going well before the foreign invasion because that's pretty much what we have today in syria it's not civil war but a foreign invasion in syria one is trying to destabilize the region and i don't have to tell you who is of course behind this project if syria folds and other muslim countries has fallen in the few last months well this will be a positive for israel and positive for the united states and its allies and the

loser will of course be a wrong that we absolutely try to isolate by all means on the international scene so there it is me i'm not for us doing humanitarian work well i think that first we should be humanitarian in our own countries because in europe should not hide from the faces of people sleeping in the streets and who die of cold during the winter. unfortunately our governments do nothing to help them and so it's a little hard to send money to syria even more so when this money is not for humanitarian purposes but that ultimately it is hijacked to serve the interests of terrorist organizations. as it is since you've also said that humanitarian aid is a ruse to actually provide rebels in syria with cash it was you have a proof of what you're saying. but you could listen all i know is that from the outset our governments did not want dialogue with bashar al assad they have just

like the case in belgium immediately recognize the rebels as the only official voice in syria i find that it is particularly shameful it is a case of very serious interference in the politics of us already a country that i cannot tolerate on top of that it is obvious that there are certain interests behind it. we should not destabilize countries as we see fit. it is clear that there are interests but it is always difficult to bring forth evidence for all you need to see is the reality on the ground and also the news over recent months we see very well that there is a desire to destabilize the region. it is not trivial people therefore we must always see who benefits from the crime it is always difficult to provide evidence when those who implemented these dust of the strategies are the leaders obviously well placed to eliminate and eradicate such evidence. maybe question how exactly das catalysts in the middle east benefit here up.

listen we are do not forget that the european union is a zionist project we have here within the european union no more national sovereignty all countries have lost their national sovereignty for the benefit of the european union that is to say to the benefit of the technocrats. who are not elected and who determine the policy of the european countries it is an absolute denial of democracy it is a real scandal that nobody talks about you need to know that people like her also and others are not elected they are appointed it is tragic if it happened in any other country in the world they would cry out dictatorship we leave today in a dictatorship in europe and thus this dictatorship has an international vision since it defends international projects i believe that international zionism is well known it is to defend the expansion of israel in the middle did so but you

often use an ism men's and mystic ideas when you speak so why exactly would israel out of all countries benefit from an unstable middle east. because it is them who have everything to gain obviously we can very well see that israel is allowed everything today israel is one of the countries which has been the most condemned who can see literally at the level of the human rights organizations and it is the only country that is never sentient. to care about we're talking about israel that is joe graphically surrounded of arab countries to have recently seen regime changes in favor of fundamental islam i really don't see where is the benefit for israel in that. yes absolutely because as they're not henry levy said the arab spring is good for israel and thus it is clearly in this policy here at the same time in those countries that surround israel with the

radical islamist governments it is clear that we will quickly go a step further in a few years you will see that we will have to intervene in these countries on behalf of the defense of the exes of good and therefore for the protection against terrorism what is happening today in egypt and libya we put radical governments in place and that is extremely dangerous and the goal of course is to set up all the basis for future intervention that will still allow israel to obviously increase its power in the region we further surround israel with powerful suited terrorists and continue to give israel weapons to defend itself even continue to oppress the palestinian people on behalf of the so-called fight against terrorism. if we go back a little to syria right you also say interventions by european countries are neo colonialist stick in its nature how exactly is neocolonialism relevant to syria.

well listen it's pretty simple i think that syria is a country that is true typically very important from the economic point of view also you know very well that syria must be used to enable the transfer of gas that comes from these famous supposedly muslim countries in which i dispute the muslim character to supply power to our european countries today since gas primarily comes from russia and the east and therefore allowing gas to pass through syria would be a big economic gain of course and therefore syria today as other countries such as mali as the central african republic are today the victims of a global economic conspiracy which is attempting to destabilize regimes which so far i would like to remind you have never posed any problems three or four years from now no one will ever consider bashar al assad a dictator of course it is comical from the moment that economic interests come to

play the friend of yesterday may become the enemy of today. she's to put it down to just last question before a short break what do you know that most of your countrymen support the idea of interventions i mean surely they can't all be croup sarabia it's what you it is you . no i know in fact the belgian people do not support any military operation there were several polls that have been published and sixty five percent of the population were against it but polls are still very bad because if the belgian people are against military intervention in syria today it is not for the right reasons it is primarily for economic reasons you should know that in belgium we always ask citizens to make more efforts and second feiss our purchasing power continues to be restricted and therefore obviously the citizens did not want to see money spent in

a war that does not concern them but of course there are some countries where public opinion is in favor of military intervention and that public opinion is simply manipulated by the media and the political world of course give syria and bashar assad a very bad image we make him seem like a muslim terrorist moreover this excuse of the muslim terrorist is practical since it allows plenty of interference at the international level and therefore it scares the population we say to european citizens you see if we leave bashar al assad alone then tomorrow there will be terrorist attacks in europe this is outrageous it is a crime who are trying to manipulate public opinion and that we cannot accept i know the less believe that it is a now that citizens think for themselves and that they get information about what syria was before we invaded that country it was much better it is exactly the same case in libya where we made gadhafi out to be a bloodthirsty tyrant whereas he was simply a man who made his people happy with policy is in the interests of his citizens and not with policies that serve the interests of the global economy like the policies

advocated by our leaders be they european or american or israelis. so they put us all up. in the hole in your club down so we'll be back after a short break with the whole week belgian m.p. to talk more about the future of europe stay with us. for the. lead it was a normal and very hard to take a look at the long. long have you ever had sex with the perfect

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one day economic consequences of leaving a catastrophic for belgium that get this whole seeks to keep it. pool of them all equal sic listen for the moment the economic consequences are already tragic for the citizens you know our buying power is restricted to a considerable degree and we do not have more freedom today it should be known that the budgets of various pollens today of various countries of europe are no longer in the hands of elected parliamentarian's but in the hands of officials who are irresponsible and therefore it means we will always try to tax more so it is clear that at the economic level to leave the european union will not be easy but to remain in it is a bit more difficult and is even more serious in my opinion for the rights of all the population of the european union so i think that we must have a little bit of courage it is clear that there will always be difficulties but you know we'll leave very well before the european union before the european union

belgian was for example one of the major world powers where very far from that today we have a debt that is phenomenal more than four hundred billion euros i don't know if you can imagine what it means in terms of money which is fair on. and so we lived without the european union previously and we can take back the reins of our country take away our national sovereignty and offer a future of better quality to our citizens better than in the year of those being built today because it is completely antisocial and to democratic and introduces on a daily basis the rights and freedoms of european citizens. while still doing that right but at this point everything is so interlinked and interrelated is there really any advantage to europe returning to different borders or occurrences. wanted to have that wall. this is opposed to several i think that it will enable each member state to set its own policies and the us not to be subject to the dictates of the european union

a very simple example today because of the european union our states can no longer borrow from their banks at a zero rate which means that we have to borrow on the financial markets it is because of this that the debts of the various european countries have not stopped growing and what do we notice. it is that many european countries of they're not on the verge of bankruptcy they are in virtual bankruptcy how do we repay four hundred billion euro's it is totally impossible so today it is vital if we want to have a future and give a future to our children to leave the european union unless the european union really becomes an institution that protects the rights of the citizens of europe and puts in place mechanisms of social protection but we are very far from that. there is no coordination at the level of european legislation you need to know today that belgian french or german worker is in direct competition with workers

from the former countries of the east such as romania bulgaria where wages are ridiculously low we talk about four hundred euro's so obviously our companies really k. to other european countries and it is still our laborers who are the victims of this intro european competition which is catastrophic there have never been so many factory closures in europe never have there been so many bankruptcies of entrepreneurs it is such a disaster that today any positives avoid the only positive that exists is that when you go to france you don't have to change currency any more but it's ridiculous compared to all the evils of the european union i prefer to go to exchange my money to do my shopping in france paris or london than undergo these daily european dictatorship and this restrictions of our buying power. close of a deal you've mentioned nationalism and the rise of nationalist movements in europe and of course nationalism and immigration go hand in hand so is immigration working

for europe because many economists insist labor from abroad is essential. and. this is the precisely that is why i am against nationalism patrick and to me the essential value is patrick has to be proud of one's country to be proud of his colors. does not mean to be against each other and it is a big problem of all these nationalist movements which we see developing everywhere in europe and i understand it is europe itself that creates these nationalist movements but i am fully opposed they create hatred and rejection of the other. and so i do not believe that immigration is the real problem facing us in any way we have around as the immigrant population that came here forty fifty years ago we must respect them we must view the descendants of these immigrant people as true europeans as belgians as french there is no distinction to be made between them

because precisely what we fear is that if we continue to stigmatize this point with the foreigners who are in our country and there is no change in anything then we will enter a civil war. it does not have borders outside of europe no matter who enters europe and i would also like to denounce those who cry out about the damage of immigration and who defend the neo colonial policies today at the international level when we are going to the war in afghanistan when we make war in the central african republic when we let populations die of hunger in various african countries do not be surprised to see the populations of these countries come to ask for help in other countries who intervene in their country of origin. so it is a bit hypocritical to put the blame on foreigners or immigrants while we ourselves are creating global disorder. sometime talk a little about hysteria measures also

a lot of economists say that the worst of the crisis has passed doesn't that mean a sturdy worked. i think that the charity measures will never work because in a small example when a business needs to develop it must create new things it must innovate it needs to invest it should put money at stake. just the opposite if a businessman were to behave like our politicians he would go straight to bankruptcy and that is what our leaders are doing the austerity and the crisis they are practical the crisis for me i'll tell you it was invented by the leaders of the world the new world order. group finance because we can very well see that these banks and the financiers are emerging as winners of these financial crisis and who's making toasts who's feeling the consequences well it is obviously the

citizens so i do not think that the territory measures have had their effect they simply allowed certain shareholders to fill up their pockets and to further empowering. and now we see that in europe we have a two tier society the very rich and the very poor there is no longer a middle class today in any case it is completely disappearing now the people who work who have good wages find themselves with financial difficulties because here the purchasing power decreases and decreases and decreases and the debt increases obviously so i think all this was well thought out and i can tell you that we are not at the end of the crisis and that within a few years there will be a new crisis that is already in visaged at the european level that we know very well there is already a directive which is circulating and advocates the taking away of ten percent of the money that is deposited in the savings accounts of european citizens and

moreover why putin and to policy that works and that allows some people to feel their pockets. as long as european citizens do not rise up and do not put an end to this plundering of their resources and their quality of life it is clear that our leaders will continue to defend the same policy the expense of citizens. were talking to laura louie member of the belgian parliament talking about the future of europe and what it holds for the european union and this is it for this edition of i will see you next time.

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