more on that in just a moment and c.b.s. is decision to stop selling tobacco products is a sign that we need to start taxing sugar and carbon the way we do cigarettes to tell you why and i'd still be to. believe. in tonight's greener and more it would rather take a look at the effect of climate change and overfishing on global marine biodiversity according to a new research out of every university in scotland global warming is making fish smaller the research which was reported on by the b.b.c. in january suggests that the maximum body length of fish including attic whiting place and soul as fallen by as much as twenty nine percent over those thirty eight years over the same period global ocean temperatures have risen between one and two degrees celsius something the aberdeen researchers say is more than just a coincidence as he told the b.b.c.

in general fish grow more rapidly during their early life when temperatures are warmer a consequence of rapid juvenile growth is that the is that they become mature at a smaller length and therefore don't grow as large as they would have in colder waters tricky size is one thing but can climate change result in something even more disastrous like a near extinction of the world's fish population eight years ago boris worm a professor at del housey university in nova scotia projected that by twenty forty eight the world's salt water fish population could be almost entirely depleted as a result of overfishing pollution and climate change so if you still think that will happen and what are the consequences of global climate change on salt water fish a source of food for billions of people around the globe. joining me now from halifax nova scotia is dr boris worm professor at the dollhouse a university biology department dr worm welcome. thanks for having on the show

thank you for joining us am i pronouncing your university correctly. you do ok eight years ago you and your fellow researchers projected that salt water fish could be really significantly depleted by twenty forty eight how would you characterize that do you still believe that. well i still believe that fisheries are global crossroads be depleting fish stocks faster than they can grow back but what we've done documented since then is that the rate of depletion is slowing in some countries particularly the rich and just rest countries i don't know investing into the rebuilding of fish stocks and bringing them back from the brink and making them more productive again the trouble is that a lot of the pressure is now shifted on to countries that have less capacity of dealing with countries in the southern hemisphere and the high seas and poor developing countries that have batted foresman and poor management and so that's a that's a growing concern right now that certainly not in safe waters here we're still depleting fish populations but we're also making successes and headway in some ways

so what's the net net of that what is the status of global fisheries today. so roughly about two off three fish stocks have been depleted beyond their potential max and put it to fifty that means they have to be brought back from an abundance that is too low two of three one of three is still in safe territory so that's not so good for the stocks that are in the in the us and europe and australia as you know and industrialized countries we see that the orwell level up to the ship is leveling off so they're not coming back in big numbers but we're not depleting them any further but in the rest of the world we still see that fisheries of being depleted and overall we see that catch levels are attitude dropping despite the effort the energy we spend at fishing is getting more and more every year so something's schooling wrong here but at the same time there's huge efforts trying to fix that what is the something that's going on. well it's too many boats tracing

too few fish and there's a long history of overfishing you must understand that global catches have increased for foldable last fifty years and it's something that the ecosystems that support fisheries can barely sustain and as you mentioned in your introduction the other things going on the temperatures shifting habitats of being impacted pollution is threatening marine life and all of these are compounding and really threatening the survival of the recovery of many nations of fish but also other marine animals affect your work focuses on fish for the most part but have you noticed a similar pattern among other marine now animals the marine mammals both for sure marine mammals are actually the poster child example so whales and seals we're exactly in the same situation the fish stocks are in now about one hundred years ago fifty years ago even whale starts of a massively depleted in many many seal stocks as well and because of strict management or regulation actually global moratorium on whaling those stocks are

coming back now not every one of them but most of them and so this is one example how we shifted from one species to the next sharks another example sharks are global to deplete and and actually in grave danger of extinction for a lot of species right now and we're just coming around trying to protect them so there's a lot going on but definitely remodels and sea turtle sea birds and all these species have been depleted historically but are now better protected and are recovering the most of the focus we have now is on fish stocks because that's where most of the danger is right now what is the bigger problem for the global fish and marine animal diab biodiversity is it overfishing or is it climate change and you know and how to each of them. yes yes so i think they're acting together so fishes squeezed in both ways climate change for example is making the oceans less productive and it's just. important how to its core were used to call coral

bleaching which is lead to high temperatures in tropical areas and at the same time we're taking more fish out of the sea than our growing back into two together can really squeeze this population both ways so there's too few adult fish to make lots of babies so speak and then the babies are not surviving well because of change of environmental conditions and what we can do about this is so obviously slow the rate of global warming so your stocks can adapt over time but also to rebuild them to a level that's more healthy to a population that's producing offspring more readily and is more robust and more resilient and this is something that's actually in trying now in u.s. history legislation and increasingly other countries are trying to emulate and also put in say large protected areas to act. places where fish recovery can really take off and then we seed some area of the areas that are depleted so there's a lot of things going on trying to fight this depletion of fish that's caused by

overfishing and increasingly also by changing environmental conditions i used to live in the u.s. pacific northwest and there was a lot of debate about farm fishing of salmon in particular that the farmed fish salmon were getting fish lice and that the fish place were then in fact in the wild salmon and it was hurting that population is what is the what is the status or the role of. fish farming in the overall health of the ocean and their biodiversity. well one thing we see is that as i told you fish the fish catchers have quadrupled since the one nine hundred fifty s. but have stagnated over the last twenty years and actually are selected declining because we have greening which the global limits of what the ecosystem can sustain on the other hand fish farming continues to grow and it's filling in some ways it's filling the gap most fish farming bill is land based on enough species like carbon to laugh mostly in asia but. increasing the number of countries as well and then

from enough mussels and other shellfish which is actually good for the environment because it's filtering the water and it's taking out stuff out of the water what's problematic is the farming of salaman in shrem and other carnivores so flesh eating fish and invertebrates that's actually relying to a large extent on taking fish out of the ocean and then feeding them for farm fish so that's not exactly putting the pressure on the oceans it may increase pressure so it depends on the type of fish from it can be helpful or harmful just as fishing itself there's this types of fishing that are sustainable and then those types of fishing that are hugely unsustainable are there any particular tipping points that we should be looking for. well you know i live in a region where there was in the norm is sudden collapse of the major fish stocks about twenty years ago the cod collapse a new from lent which put thirty thousand people out of work overnight and that was a tipping point because it happened very rapidly and it was irreversible twenty

years later that stock still hasn't recovered so we know that for individual stocks when we when we deplete them too far we may bring them to the point of no return but for fisheries as a whole i don't think so because there's about sixteen thousand different fish species and they all reacts like you differently so there's a large portfolio if you will of stocks that are reacting to pressures and as a whole if we keep that diversity of fish around they can adapt to change in momentum conditions and changing into changes in fishing but the point we made eight years ago is that we have to keep that diverse portfolio going we can't take one fish struck out after the other and hope that somebody will come up to provide for us instead at some point we're going to run out and that was the point we were really trying to make is that this biodiversity that we have is grew oreos colorful diversity of fish species is important to us it's not just important for the fish it's an important to feed us as well we talked about global temperature increases

we know that a lot of the global warming is going into the ocean but as the carbon dioxide goes up so is also a lot of the carbon dioxide it's acidifying the ocean what are the consequences of voting acidification in the minute we have left here so we'll come into oxide when it when it's dissolved and see what it forms an acid as you said and that's the tremendous harm to sea life particularly to shell forming organisms like sort of shellfish in the north west where you used to live now they're moving oyster shell fish are called an operations officer why because the larvae don't survive anymore because the conditions have gotten to this ascetic and similarly in coral reefs which have a skeleton that's made of calcium carbon that. they're increasingly becoming harmed by ascetics the waters so it's a tremendous risk that they're taking the consequences of fisheries i get time clear we haven't even begun to chart that but it's something that comes on top of

all the forms of pollution and then and it is a concern that's growing for sure dr boris warm thanks so much for being with us and. my pleasure. coming up c.b.s. is decision to stop selling tobacco products is an example of why the government should be in the business of picking winners and losers tell you why and how internets deleted.

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continued abusing customers and why we needed agency tasked with protecting our rights according to this report mortgage servicing companies have been forging paperwork illegally foreclosing on homes and even forcing borrowers to sign away their legal rights just to get a loan modification these companies are essentially the middlemen between banks and borrowers handling everything from mortgage payments to the foreclosure process but they have not been doing their jobs the c.f.p. be reported from several services companies were flat out incompetent and others are just ignoring the law because of these findings the c.f.p. band of these companies from participating in federal mortgage modification programs and collected millions of dollars for wrong consumers in the second half of last year to see a p.b.s. report shows that companies like this can't be trusted and the government regulation enforcement are absolutely necessary to protect consumers billions in

fines bad press even an economic collapse are not enough to stop these companies from preying on americans but thankfully the consumer financial protection bureau relatively new agency is now sticking up for us. it's the good the bad of the very very big new mostly ugly the good senator kirsten gillibrand on tuesday the new york lawmaker introduced her newest piece of legislation the family and medical insurance. leave act or family act is passed the family act would create a universal nationwide system of paid family and medical leave it is make sure that everyone no matter how much they make or where they were take time off to care for

a sick family member who should follow some of the job brands leaving past the family act as soon as possible to put the united states in line with the rest of the developed world when it comes to family leave policy after all even afghanistan has a paid leave system the bad laura ingraham broadcast a radio show yesterday the conservative pundit and fox news contributor who criticized supreme court justice sonia sotomayor for saying the term illegal alien was offensive it was. just a sort of my or according to drudge report justice sotomayor saying labeling illegals that criminals is insulting that is the supreme court justice an associate justice of the supreme court who swore to uphold the law federal laws and the u.s. constitution her duty is to defend the constitution why do we have a supreme court justice whose allegiance obviously goes to you know her immigrant

family background not to the u.s. constitution or as in title whatever opinions she wants to matter how offensive those opinions are but without facts so on his side it sort of may or is not an immigrant she's a u.s. citizen whose families from puerto rico but even if she were an immigrant there will be such a big deal and a very very ugly u.s. border patrol a san diego chapter of the organization is under fire today over photos surfaced of its agents showing little kids how to shoot at human like targets at a charity event last year here's a quote from a new a local news story on the counters. border patrol agents supervises young children hold paintball guns and shoot humanlike targets along the sandy. won a border fence in activity immigrant rights activists better deals calls disturbing it resembled it symbolizes who the targets are for border patrol migrants similar to these says rios the photos were taken last june at the annual san diego fallen

agents memorial five k. run a spokesman with the border patrol tells n.b.c. seven that it was a family friendly event were off duty agents held a variety of demonstrations yeah teaching kids to shoot at human targets that look like undocumented immigrants that sounds real family. very. thank. you such a. crazy alert suitable sex party this year's championship showdown between the denver broncos and the seattle seahawks at met life stadium in new jersey turned out to be a good old fashioned follow up last year a seattle fan the game wasn't all that exciting but that doesn't mean football fans were. finding some excitement on their own the web site pornhub dot com has released data on its web traffic over the course of super bowl sunday the results

are pretty interesting and how does denver and seattle area traffic drop as expected during the hours leading up to game six thirty kickoff the site started picking up viewers when the denver area almost immediately after the game and the seattle slaughter began. very important traffic increase rapidly during the game far outpacing seattle area traffic which dropped to well below average during the game and while web traffic got back to normal in seattle after the game ended denver area pornhub activity while above average suggest in the bronco fans decided to drown their sorrows and fake boobs and sweaty bodies all jokes aside though i'm happy brockett bronco fans found some way to enjoy themselves. audibles two of the .

big government is working today c.v.s. caremark the second largest drugstore chain in our country announced that it will stop selling all tobacco products that will cigarettes and chewing tobacco over the first although the move cost the company about two billion in annual revenue it's not expected to actually affect their overall twenty fourteen earnings their profit when asked about the decisions as c.v.s. c.e.o. larry murray told the associated press that his company had come to the conclusion that cigarettes have no place in a setting where health care is being delivered it's easy to pass off c.v.s. as plan to stop selling tobacco products is a clever p.r. decision designed to attract an increasingly health conscious american public there's more to the story than just good marketing c.v.s. is decision to just say no to tobacco is the latest success story of government stepping in to counter act the dangers of unregulated capitalism just forty four years ago in one nine hundred seventy probably forty percent of american adults

smoke cigarettes today that number has dropped to eighteen percent why is that happened oaken servitors libertarians don't want to hear it but hillary's american tobacco users drop since the middle of the twentieth century is government regulation since surgeon general luther terry released his landmark report on the connection between tobacco use and cancer and sixty four state and federal governments have unleashed a wave of regulations on tobacco they slap cigarette packs graphic warning labels they ban tobacco tv's ads on t.v. they've outlawed flavored cigarettes they've created smoke free areas and they've raised taxes on cigarettes purchases they were helped along the way by those pesky trial lawyers that the republicans love the eight and the basic fact. the matter is government regulation worked and it worked in the best way possible according to a recent study published in the journal of the american medical association anti-smoking efforts have saved over eight million lives in the fifty years since surgeon general luther terry announced the dangers of tobacco use on the most

effective ways to save lives has been raising taxes on cigarettes this is been proven by study after study as the usa today editorial board recently pointed out states with the highest excise taxes that is those states of the highest tobacco sales tax have the lowest teen smoking rates real simple and according to the center for budget policy priorities raising the price of a pack of cigarettes by just ten percent leads to a decrease in smoking a three to seven percent among adults and a decrease in smoking of five to fifteen percent among people under eighteen make no mistake about it if state and federal agencies regulated tobacco like they have over the last fifty years c.v.s. never would have stopped selling cigarettes and sure that c.v.s. takes in about one hundred twenty three billion every year in sales and it expects to lose two billion in sales from its decision to stop selling tobacco products a low buy refused to sell tobacco products it's most likely they're going to be

able to sell themselves more as a health related company and make up for lost tobacco sales by selling healthy products and other things with perhaps higher profit margins regulation and taxes of cut into the tobacco markets so botch that the two billion dollars sales loss nothing for them to worry about but c.b.s. his decision to stop selling tobacco products is more is about more than just cigarettes and it's about more than just one company's good business. it's an example of what we need to do to stop other dangers on regulated capitalism like obesity and global warming. if we want to do things like fight obesity and stop global warming then we need to do what we did to clamp down on tobacco use we need to use government regulation and taxation to actually change the behavior of people and businesses but we need to make it so costly for people to drink soda or for the companies to pump out fossil fuels that they radically reduce those activities

conservatives say modified behaviors a bad thing but they're wrong it's a good thing and we've been doing it since the founding of our republic alexander hamilton used tariffs during the george washington administration to get americans to buy american manufactured goods and today the federal government uses tax incentives of all kinds to encourage people to get married to buy a house or even have kids we should pick winners here and we should use the government to change the way people and businesses act because to do so is the best way to ensure positive outcomes for society for all of us picking winners and losers worked to clamp down on big tobacco and it will work to do things like fight obesity and climate change we've seen examples of that already all around the world picking winners and losers will also help pay for the costs to society of bad behaviors like selling or eating fatty foods and polluting the atmosphere and

someone eats a big mac and fries they don't just hurt themselves they hurt everyone else by raising national health care costs when a company burns coal the fuel power plant a company doesn't just dirty up the sky it settles you and me the taxpayer the cost of disaster relief needed to clean up after a quiet change fueled superstores the list goes on and on back when surgeon general luther terry warned americans about the dangers of the backhoe use fifty years ago the idea of a major drug stores chain like c.v.s. actually refusing to sell tobacco products act that it was inconceivable today it's just common sense. lets start doing to big sugar and big oil what we did to big tobacco so that someday soon people will think refusing to sell soda and refusing to use fossil fuels are just as commonsense as refusing to sell or smoke cigarettes. and that's the way it is tonight wednesday february

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