president obama says the u.s. immigration system is broken and kind of the thickest acclaimed actor producer director and social activist edward james olmos is here to tell us what he'd like to see from the president and congress as they tend to limit gratian reform plus the sub syllabi safe we'll have security assessments from russia's ambassador to the u.s. and a high ranking congressman just back from russia all next on politicking. of the politicking on larry king and we start the show talking about immigration joining us here in the studios my friend the acclaimed actor producer director

social activist edward james olmos big story in tuesday's washington post new momentum in congress for a broad overhaul of border control laws demanding that president obama hauled deportation of millions of american young people the white house has consistently said that obama cannot illegally expand the effort what do you think of all this. well. dog meyer it's impossible to move forward. this has become a political issue to gain votes on both sides and i got to tell you this is really what the issue becomes whenever humanity is placed behind politics we have a big issue and the issue is that a lot of children a lot of families who have come here for years been here for decades are getting separated more than ever in the history of this country under any president we're

getting shipped they're sending people back now that should make a lot of people happy and i'm sure a lot of people that are watching and us and that's good that's good they should have been here the problem is none of us should have been here if that's the case we all immigrated here if you all come on eddie don't start that when do you stop that when you tell the native american indians excuse us for taking over the entire situation here never no that's old news we're talking about today you want amnesty for all i would like to see something done immediately the humanistic aspect of what we're talking about. the separation of families the inconsistency why are they coming here larry out of a need that coming here to get rich the coming here to survive you have water on one side and you have no water over here they're going to go where the water is and that's the simple direct are you saying the obama administration is not an advocate of of ending all this the stupidity as you call it on the immigration issue you can

go bomb has been bad on your side. my side is not side it's humanistic how do you assess obama assess him as being someone that has spoken very clearly on issues that are good for him and his party and i got to say the democrats are very pro your side well they're prone respects of trying to make things happen but guess what they haven't been able to and the reason is because of the separation of the different parties in this country why are you blaming obama because under his watch if the buck stops with him under his watch more people have been deported now than they've ever been deported in the history of this country but he's advocating reform he wasn't specific but he's advocating reform of the whole immigration situation well. is he strong enough to make it go through what he was originally is what do you want him to do honestly logically honestly he would have to sit down with everybody on both sides and work this thing through no one point the senate

had a bill that they pushed through an idea and of course it was stopped in the house and now we've also had a situation where today there's a bill that's coming out that has come out on behalf of the house i think and they're turning around and saying that we should do it in the way but it's not comprehensive and in any sense of the word those who buy build yes and that's not comprehensive so what do you want obama to do you want to call a people he's been trying that for years didn't let him keep doing it i would rather have him battling it out in that room then not talking is the way it's going to be done they have to come together this this government has an issue and as soon as it becomes politicized that's the name of our program here politicking as soon as they start politicking nobody gets anything in any respect the who loses. humanity. can he do any executive orders to your knowledge on not

a lawyer i'm not a lawyer either but i got to tell you i don't think you can i think he could throw the book at him they would tell me he's breaking the law you know and i'd be interesting to see what he's going to do but i don't think he's going to be able to do anything i think he's a pretty good as falling into a very very difficult lame duck because it does the good is the obama administration has deported nearly two million she's undocumented aliens that's the highest rate of any presidency by the way is that a surprise to you yeah yeah especially since he's said so much at the beginning of his administration for that to be the issue and i understand he's trying to enforce the fact that he's here to enforce the laws of the country and he's showing that by doing that in hopes that then the opposition to the requests that he makes will come and say well he's doing a good job of what he's trying to do so let's try to help them out but they're not doing that but isn't the opposition with a growing percentage of latino voters in this country which is going to be they're going to be in two thousand and fifty the majority. don't you think that most of

the side the tide is turning in your way my way meaning you're saying that listening tough immigration laws that we're going to look at how we cannot have we cannot we have to deal with the issue that's at hand right now if we don't come to terms with the fact that right now people are getting in the state of complete frenzy people are scared really scared. of being deported to being you know trying to children being separated from them and they say well then why don't all these people go back if they went back larry. people went back this country would be a shock as to what would happen they made a movie about it a day without a mexican everybody should see it. and then the chaos rescue total i mean the young people is no reason why a child who was brought here the people sealed and that's ridiculous that that you

know you can say that but there are people watching your program right now who are just throwing stuff at the television because basically this is a very very very controversial issue because you talk about laws and the laws of the land have to be changed low a person who emigrated under the laws probably if he's not working let's say is angry at someone coming here illegally you know getting a job exam that's who would blame him for being angry my father was angry at that you know he was legally here and it took him a long time to get here and he was always angry at people who came he would they weren't didn't come here the right way he always was and i would tell him dad why are they coming here let's stop for a second what exploitation caused or what deficiency caused this and they said well that's the country that countries fought women who is exploiting latin america why did we get to this point in the first place why isn't latin america especially the mexico a first world nation why isn't it and then you say well because the people who live

there don't want to change it know that it's true it's the powers that be they don't want to change in the powers that be are people who are under the influence and under the understanding of the how they got to be powers that be out of the what was happening here in the united states of america less soon the senate pass comprehensive reform that would provide a path to citizenship for eleven million undocumented in the measure stalled in the house it's right the path to citizenship do you see that coming is that is that a road where. i can even see them stopping the immigrant the return let alone making a way for them to be here and legally that's i have a big problem with this it's going to be something that can become very destructive to a country that already is i'm praying that they can be. i'm praying that there is a possibility of causing people to have been here on the day when the senate made sense they did it i thought it did but the house said no and i understand why it

said no politics why is it willow that the republicans in states where there isn't hasn't been a heavy impact generally oppose this right there so how you ever going to overturn it unless you elect a new congress and that ain't going to happen not right away it will happen though because basically like he said before by the year two thousand and fifty everything is going to change. this past weekend republican paul paul ryan who ran for the vice president said the possibility of a broad immigration bill reaching obama's desk is clearly in doubt you've been involved in this a long time how you kind of discouraged yeah i'm discouraged because inevitably the art system is failing the humanity in which we live in my known ones happy i mean. both sides are completely beyond any kind of feeling of success or any kind of hope both sides i mean the political

structure here is another dogma or i told that i said that from the very beginning do you talk to republican friends i love them yeah i love or rob a good friend what do they say to you they say that what the usually go the status quo you know that there would be the law should be upheld and people should understand it and then you get some radical radical situations that happened like that happened in arizona there's a situations that i feel basically if we don't start looking at them from a humanistic level not a political level we're going to be a lot of trouble. and the humanity always takes second billing it's never been first there's first is when there's maybe an earthquake or there's a tsunami you know. but but a lot of people say they're for reform even though you say well sometimes republicans say they're for reform everyone knows it's a problem right yeah and therefore they want to say that they're for reforming it yes and but on the no say well the put more stopgaps up at the border build more

boy you want i have done this i've known more than almost anybody other two people we went down that a border already we're on the border and there are people jumping the border when we're on the border clear i may have let members looking at your film i say that you know basically this is just me and i'm not an expert at this i will tell you this i've lived a long time i'm sixty six years old and i've been doing this a long time and i've seen the unbelievable differences that have happened when people really do care and really do try to make a difference and right now we're not trying to do that we're trying to really enforce a situation that's going to completely demoralized this country while you're successful actor producer you have so many credits you're telling award nominee i want to stand in the liver as been seen by more people than any movie ever made in the united states why why why do you get so upset about this you just set. i mean

really what no i mean. this is not. my issue this is not a political issue that we treated as if it was a political issue that we treated as if i have some vested interest in this i do from a humanistic aspect. humanity is losing because we can't come to terms with why people are coming here we cannot block the border if you think there's a whole lot of latinos coming here you wait when they open up china you wait to see how many people and there are already started we did a movie go for sisters telling on sales he deals with the fact that there are so many people coming in here now and who are coming in are the chinese or asian that are coming across the borders now and they pay lots of money thirty to fifty thousand dollars to get across. that's a lot of money and these guys are getting

a cross and they told him to they meld the into the so was your answer. just i see get ready because as soon as they open the doors to china and people can come and go out to china and chinese finally get to turn to sing la let's just let our people go we have so many billions of them anyway it would be hard to be anti changing immigration and win the presidency don't you think very hard i think so i think so yeah i would think the tide is turning toward the human estate i would hope don't you think i do yeah as i wouldn't be here wouldn't be a lair and i got to tell you i applaud you i applaud you for going on still only doing what i consider to be work that has to be done and you didn't come bless you proud to call you a friend thank you thanks to james for joining me on this very important topic immigration coming up next on politicking the russian ambassador of sea united states on security questions and political questions surrounding the olympics and

later a high ranking congressman just back from sochi don't go away. i marinate join me. for india in park and plan for carry on from here and much. only on bus and on. our course. there's lined up. on. my.

of the politicking joining us now from washington d.c. is the russian ambassador to the united states surrogate keys liked we thank you very much for joining us mr ambassador the obvious first question with the opening ceremonies coming friday night how safe is soucie. thank you very much mr king for inviting mean into your social and it's save it save because we have undertaken old in this measures in order to deny. terrorists that would be terrorists any chance of success and we are going to succeed in that so it's going to be a wonder fall. they hide they for a sportsman for a younger generation that i have hope it's going to be remembered by them and by many other people including your viewers as something very spectacular positive

joyful there has to be though some concerns with all the threats with the kurds as previously in the as a month or so in moscow how much security is in place. wow result lot of his security that were put in place and. certainly terrorism as a global phenomenon. so when you talk about think about terrorism threat it's equally applied to russia as it applies to your country and i will just to point you to the recent superbowl that was so well protected and i understood that your law enforcement also take that kind of threat on challenges very seriously so russia is a responsible country and we certainly have a lot of assets to deploy which we have already done and we're pretty comfortable

that everything will be fine it's reported that these games will be the most expensive ever of the fifty billion could it mr putin alleges that businessmen officials close that are president stole billions in olympic funds are you concerned about the charge about corruption. while i have heard this but nobody was able to present any evidence of it so when it comes to the prize there for the lindbergh's many people overlook very simple thing for us a lympics it's not only the games which are very important and we attach a lot a lot of importance for these games as a as a festival of. sports festival of friendship between people and it's going to be so but also what is important in two weeks the olympics will be over but everything that has been created for the olympics including the

infrastructure are going to stay and they're going to stay to be used by russian people and mind you so it is a wonderful resort area that a long needed additional investment and the olympics is the proper vehicle to attract a lot of investment into the region and make a significant change the it is embezzler the chairman of the house intelligence committee mike rogers call on the russian government to be more cooperative with three olympics intelligence sharing according to him we don't seem to be getting all the information we need to protect our athletes america has offered to provide its own security become what do you say to this that there has a bit a lot of cooperation on the security end first of all those lympics are going to be held in russia. so it's our responsibility to ensure that the security is provided for all and we're going to circumvent russia has

a lot of capabilities to deploy for these purposes minium much more than maybe some other countries third the reason ongoing dialogue. aeration between law enforcement russia and other countries including the united states and if you hear it was the representatives of the administration of the united states are suggesting that certain they would like to have more i think he plays i think time but they are very much satisfied with the quality of interaction with the russian law enforcement and i would say that russian law enforcement also feel the same. u.s. state department is warning american athletes to not wear united states year outside the venue. think that it creates fear. i don't know i'm not responsible for the guidance that state department is issuing because had i been interested to do so i would have done

a little bit different but i think that american sportsman can feel safe in their league thinks as anybody else is russia concerned that the president obama is not going the vice president does not going the first lady is not going is that this they regard that as some sort of snub whoa olympics and when i invent where we invite those who are willing to come and we're going to have about sixty leaders of states member of the olympic movement we're going to have about eighty five countries participating in sending they do we gave so it's up for each and every country to decide who they want to send to these delegations to this event so we're pretty comfortable with the decisions that the united states take because it's for them to decide whether they want to be at these. first of all of sport and

. trenchant or not are you going no unfortunately have more to do and my dopers to work here. we thank the ambassador we thank him for his inside of the sochi olympics now joining us from capitol hill with a different perspective is the chairman of the house foreign affairs subcommittee on europe eurasia and emerging threats the republican congressman from california dana rohrabacher just returned from moscow dana thanks so much for joining us chief organizer of the two thousand and fourteen olympics claims that the site is the most secure then you on the planet do you agree. well of course that's not the case and i would have appreciated and i would have supported having the olympics someplace else however with that said i think the russians made their determination they were not going to at all we can in the face of

a potential terrorist threat and so they've stepped up and i think that we need to make sure that when it comes to standing against radical islamic terrorism that we step up and stand with them i agree with her actions are you concerned about american citizens attending i'm not concerned about it because i do believe that there. i do believe that the russian government has done everything that they can possibly do to secure that area and now it's right near daga stan and down in the caucus areas so there is a inherent danger that exists there however the russians have decided president putin has decided that he is going to make this happen and it's going to be safe and they have expended their enormous resources in order to secure the olympics and people asked me whether they should go and i have recommended to

friends that they attend the olympics if they if that's the thing they like to do because i believe that they will be relatively safe there what worries you the most . well what worries me the most is that you might have some radical islamic terrorists to. will try to down an american plane whether a an airplane or something like that or blow up a people on their way in or out of the olympics and. that's the one the player that i would do our ever with that said there is a great deal of cooperation going on right now i know mike rogers would prefer the be more cooperation on a higher level but during my recent visit i talked to various people involved and i've been briefed here as well and there is a significant level of cooperation not higher level than we've had before in trying

to prevent this sort of radical islamic terrorism from taking the lives of innocent people no matter what country they come from who would like to attend the olympics and whether that was the ambassadors said when you come down to it though it is still russia's problem security is rush's area well when. president putin of the russian government decided that they wanted to have the olympics. and that they were willing to. expend the money of the resources necessary they knew that a large chunk of that expense was going to go into security and i don't think that they have hesitated to spend the money that's necessary to secure the olympics the president's not going the vice president isn't going the ambassador said that i think sixty major heads of nations are going to go do you think the president should go. yes you know i think that the president number one we should not

politicize and there have been several groups that have been trying to politicize the olympics trying to say russian policy. towards their gay community in russia. that that political decision on russia part should guide whether or not we attend the olympics a lot of politicizing the olympics and i don't think that's right so i think that that shouldn't prevent us and when it comes to the threat of radical islamic terrorism i think that while i would have preferred not having the olympics there if the russians step forward and they've decided and it's been decided that's where the olympics will be i think it's really important for the united states to stand shoulder to shoulder we're not with just the russians but any country that's under the threat of radical islamic terrorism we need a dotted front and that would be a perfect way to show their radical terrorists around the world that the rest of

the world is united against them what do you think about the president's idea he included openly gay athletes former participants in the olympics in part of the united states official delegation i think that that's the president's prerogative and i would suggest that that is somewhat politicizing the event trying to insert that issue however if the president wants to make that statement and that's his prerogative as the elected representative of our country and. i'm not complaining about it but i wouldn't have done that you're just back to it's costing the russian government fifty one billion dollars you've been dissociate you think it's a good investment well let me just note i was in moscow when not sochi i just got back from from moscow where i met with their intelligence people and and others. i think you know i think that as i say because there's an inherent risk. i think it

might it was a it was not a good decision on the part of the russian government or and mr putin to insist on having this olympics i mean it's sort of hard headedness. it's going to cost them a lot more money than if they would have perhaps had the olympics more of a summer olympics in an area that was not in the caucuses which is so close to the radical islamic terrorists who they have to have now guard against tunnels in another area what are you thoughts on russia granting. this is silent temporary asylum to edward snowden. well since you know snowden is a mixed bag with snowden many people many americans and i am included in that. are not upset with mr snowden for informing us and in and drawing the attention of the american people that there was over surveillance on the part of our own government

of our own people and i think it's ironic that mr snowden is warning a population against over surveillance by their government of their of their own of their private lives and then he flees to russia which is through out my entire life was the country that over surveilled their people but i don't but now that i don't have a disagreement with or i'm not upset with mr snowden for that but since he did that since he is disclose that to the american people he is also disclosed other information that is very damaging to our intelligence operations overseas and it's one thing to disclose over surveillance of the american people it's another thing to disclose the details of some of our intelligence operations overseas and i believe that was a betrayal of our people and that he should have done that they know as did c.f.c.

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