but he did rather well. today on larry king now he's everywhere these days it's a meal hirsch you are a workaholic an actor being a workaholic is that's a very rare thing you're shooting a really crazy chaotic scene and you're you know half worried about you know billy kicking down the door with an axe on you in the mill of the take one direction that sean gave me going into the wild where i asked him questions and he said don't make me do your homework for you and i think that there was just a good piece of advice about self-reliance plus you know you always hear like a chain you know but i think until you hold the baby you don't really know what you present at the birth i was there the day after all and the next one cut the cord that's all next on larry king now.

welcome to larry king our special guest the meal hearse the to refigure actor you know him from savages killer joe and his indelible role in into the wild now he stars as clyde barrow and bonnie and clyde on the history general lifetime and a emmys simultaneously it's a first for these networks you can also see a meal in two upcoming films twice born and lone survivor and the third the motel life is in soit theaters now will soon be taking on the role of john bolasie in the late actor's untitled by a pike as well he is kind of where i was was going on with you i you know if you're a workaholic it sounds like a lot and while an actor being a workaholic is that's a very rare thing. you know i find that it's just i've had a lot of time in between these movies coming out you know. an actor will make like

one or two movies a year and you know would say the shoot is maybe thirty five days on one movie or forty five one another that's still you know only eighty days of the year that you really work would come out in big they all may get delayed or that you know on some of the smaller movies like twice born in the motel life the release date gets pushed and all the sudden there's a feeling that oh i did i actually want to will gears theatrical tannic him as a little kid which is up and topanga canyon it's a really great place to be introduced to acting you know you're running around in nature in the wilderness making your own costumes doing shakespeare eight nine years old so i remember why you want to. which is fine i think that that's the that's the main thing you know i created a character i think what i was four years old with my sister and people go what was your first job and i go like making money ok it was acting they were walking happy and i was when i was four years old my sister made the tickets for

a character that i created called funny cowboy and for fifty cents my parents would pay and i would basically just set up a bunch of props around the room and be like i'm funny cowboy and just trash the whole room. and that was it but let's talk about we talk about a lot of it was first told first about killer joe one of the bill while those crazy is insane to movies i've ever seen directed by bill for it's a romantic comedy. when you got the script what did you think well. when i first read killer joe i didn't know about the play or the tracy letts of it all you know the guy who wrote the play he also wrote august osage county which i had seen and actually love to be gone and it took me a minute to put it together but when i read the script i didn't quite realize that it was a comedy so i'm reading something that i think is the drama and then off with the page and all that's kind of interesting and that's all that that can't be right

that's that's kind of funny that's that in the chicken bone when i get to when i got to the chicken bones scene i was that kind of crazy to do. i mean it was especially with billy friedkin directing it you know i feeling open as yours yeah. you would never know it because he is you know he just has ferocious energy and he's such a character selfies like the mad wizard behind it all so you're on your you know it be one thing if you had like some flatliner director who's like you know. but with billy you know you're shooting a really crazy chaotic scene and you know half worried about you know billy kicking down the door with an axe on you in mill of a take now bunny cried tell me about this we all know the famous movie in warren beatty movie they've done away. it was a genius when i got famous from that movie did you see the movie before you took this project in oh i sort of pride myself on being a little bit of

a film buff at times and i had always been a little bit ashamed because i had the d.v.d. for years and i was always like this is the classic bonnie and clyde and i just never got around to watching it so as soon as i was sent the scripts i said well now i definitely can't watch it because actors if given the right place in the right time will be parents to other actors you know so if you see you know. an actor who's seen marlon brando in a streetcar named desire might as well not bother trying to play the part because it's going to be a lot harder so you didn't see it i didn't see it just subsequently yeah as soon as we wrapped production and filming i watched it and i loved it i mean it was it's night and day from from robbers and i was actually shocked out different our version was is so so well in the arthur penn version you know there's comedic undertones to the to the whole movie and especially to beatty's character of clive his client is kind of a much more up there smiling kind of joke

e you know kind of goofball doofus kind of at times kind of guy and we felt. our client was a lot darker more stoic type of person and some of the research that i had done in preparation for the role you know clyde barrow was sent to prison for over a year and you know it's documented that he was raped and beaten in jail so my version of clyde was someone who was not in the first definitely not in the first one you know but you still have the friendship broaden the two couples and yeah yeah there's there's we there's a lot of parallels in terms of certain scenes where i'm like ok there's there's frank amer in the scene and there's bonnie in the scene and about lines up but the night that i read the scripts i felt like this was a pretty good. and i went out to a party up in the hollywood hills and my friend invited me to and i walk into the backyard and lo and behold sitting at the table was warren beatty and i had met him

one time before so i went up to him i said hey mr brady how you doing i was going to war and he was he's very very friendly very good guy and i told him i said you know i might i might do this bonnie and clyde project and he was nice about it and i confess that i hadn't seen his version i don't think he was thrilled at that but i think he who watch shows though if you will how does it come to play on three networks how did that worked out well what i think it was was originally it was just history and lifetime and i think that they wanted to create the network wanted to create some kind of and try out what would happen to the audience if we put it on two different networks you know the history channel is much more male oriented it was on history annie and lifetime alter and they added a any. mid shoot at that point when they had the third network we were just at the actors were i think a little bit confused you know we're like three now or so it's

a lot more to play it three times the money yeah. not like a break the lens and things that would be a bond. you're. going to. need more of a close up you way back there hard to see are smart. you know. listen six. months back when. you get there. how do you counter the fact that he was so popular in the country. you know i don't think without bonnie and clyde barrow would have ever been nearly as famous i think that he had aspirations to be

a great bank robber like john dillon sure who he really looked up to but he didn't have the skills as a criminal he didn't have that skill set but bonnie was charming and charismatic and had a really wild imagination there's a lot of poetry that bonnie actually wrote when they were on the run which is pretty it's not great poetry but it's compelling in some of it's actually used as a voiceover in the movie i think that so we were famous course there were a couple i think it was because they were a couple you know i think that the couple ness of them coupled with the fact that they were in the depression and the people were able to look at the moments like there were these mythical robin hood figures you know they were robbing banks in the banks you know as far as the public was concerned where the people that were you know foreclosing their houses and taking their farms and things and we were on the show was three years ago and two i was on c.n.n. and you had just climbed mount kilimanjaro it was for charity yeah it was for it was for musician in canada created

a charity called summit on the summit so we were basically climbing to raise money for this clinic for different clean water charities that they can i had kind of picked and. i had about two or three weeks to train and i didn't i didn't really know what i was getting in myself involved into and halfway up mount kilimanjaro i became horribly sick i got a really really bad infection so they put me on all kinds of steroids and antibiotics. so i was really little essentially limped up to the top of mt tell me to do it again i would definitely do it again i wanted to do it again you know it's oh it's a lot of fun even when you're sick it's still fun so i can imagine how much fun it is if you want to like up there. well at the very tippy top on the roof of africa it was cloudy that day so we couldn't see anything unfortunately but a little bit lower it's so you feel like on top of the world it's really good really peaceful feeling. you know you just feel like you're in it and venture how

did you come to go to haiti was friends with him before you know it was it was for we knew each other from you know working together on into the wild. and milk so he called me a little bit after that night i went down for twelve or thirteen days and it's amazing what he's done down there organization j p h r o that he set up and seeing how much that's grown in the years since and he's really he's done a lot of amazing stuff and seeing him first town and there how he you know managed it was pretty impressive you know you kind of a person like to be involved yeah i mean i feel like i feel like i should be more you know i feel like that's something you know i always feel like i should be doing more because your generation trying to guess rap as being not selfish yeah the generation selfie you know i think that there's a there's a i think that all a lot of the technology that we have as much as it would makes it it makes it

easier it makes it easier to be connected but at the same time i think it also makes it easier to be self-indulgent a little bit you know you've got instagram and twitter and facebook the potential for spreading information and for helping people i think is actually a lot greater because you just have more communication but there's something about you know everyone feels like they're starring in their own movie or something that you can slip into sean penn is an incredible person he really is what he is and he's really don't think yeah i mean the little person one hundred percent committed to what he's doing. respect him a lot you're a new father yeah yeah i had a son with a month ago month yesterday what's his name valerie this is our valerie yeah how did you come up with valor well you know my nephew is named honor and i love i love this time and i was honor yeah and i was thinking of just different words and that word just popped in my head and different names and i wasn't like i just it was

a spur of the moment thing you know i went i went through all the names and. recall writing value you know what's it like i've had many experiences in fatherhood it's great i love it i don't like he's just. you know you always hear like oh you change you know but i think until you hold the baby you don't really know you know i mean he's just he's adorable and you also know that for the first time in your life someone's one port and then you yeah and totally dependent on you yeah yeah it's it's a great it's exciting you know and i think one of the things that i i really enjoy is the idea of just you're looking forward to so many different things you know when once you no one's going to walk one is going to start talking you know wins again that we were you present at the birth i was there the day after all there after. he came a little early on the next one up the court coming up the man is everywhere i mean

a lot of conquering hollywood and easy five films of the. next. maybe use your own time if you don't hurry chorused you know response to really.

everyone in my life that i cared about their goal much and then. i came to skin well. i was so national champion in track and field and also i was able to go and qualify for the olympic games. you know nine hundred eighty eight i started to experiment with other drugs i had lost all the financial means that i. was really on the street. black market can't. break. through. the bed with a male her she got bonnie and clyde coming on three networks in december for two

nights you know is your first television movie no i did one when i was younger when i was twelve years old i was in a little movie called gargantua and i also actually played young harry houdini in the t.n.t. original movie could be me but i was i'm maybe thirty seconds of years on a child star ok you get three days out what is motel life about motel life is a film based on a novel that will leave long road starring. with stephen dorff and there we play two brothers. in reno kind of down on their luck guys who. doris character jerry lee accidentally hit and runs a kid so for the first time he's on the run you know he's worried about going to jail and i have to get him out of harm's way and it's just it's a nice tender drama about two brothers he's a great actor about the two brothers you know just depending on each other you're probably cruise's lover and twice born for me and was like we're going with her

she's fantastic she has such a great sense of humor we would always have a bar deemer javier was around he's. he's incredible you mean the two of them together it's ridiculous and then you got a lone survivor about a failed navy seal team mission with my buddy mark wahlberg and. people what are you in this it's based on the book by marcus luttrell we go into afghanistan a four man team to do recon on a taliban commander named a mob show so we go in there and we actually we put up we're in the mountains looking down on a village and there's a. team or a team but there's a go herders the goats climb through our little hides and they see a some we're basically it's a soft compromise where the mission if we let them go are they going to run back to the village and let you know two hundred taliban know that we're there or you know

are we just going to kill him or like what what do we do so it kind of becomes. you know that type of proposition on what happens and there's a big debate amongst the seals and ultimately the decision that we make to let them go you know the taliban immediately swarm on us and a lot of the movie is a really big long firefight are you shot many times many times in the film. john belushi has when you start shooting that well i think we're hopefully around. yeah may june yeah i mean really. i've been watching s n l the early seasons lately do you like comedy we are love comedy like i like being so young in the business you seem to i mean you're not affected at all. you had you didn't have too much too soon not at all now in a certain sense some of the early films i did early projects they weren't

necessarily successful and looking back on it that maybe was a good thing for me you know in the long run so you weren't recognized walking down the street no not at all where you grew up here yeah i went to hamilton high school robertson and intend you know do you know the one i'm talking about you know rob. i'm going to hamilton have a great drama depart they've got a great drama department and they've got a really good musical theater to pour in but it was the north's right friend i worked for him for years in radio really theaters that norman j. patterns i opened the other with him really correct you have a put some great musicals on and never will i'm so i saw them my sister my sister was the one that was actually in the theater at him and she was she played juliet in school policy in theater and she's got three kids and she lives in puerto rico now so she's like full time mom probably best known for into the wild a tremendous movie to bed change you i think so i was a tough shoot it was it was tough and you know i think sean made it purposely tough

for me but it was nowhere near as tough as it was for for someone actually doing something like that but it was an incredible experience to get to go on the road for that long with this group of people with shawn as the leader. we want all we were in alaska we were in california were in arizona we were in oregon but one man movie though at times it felt like you know we had it was great you know sean is a fantastic director with tons of great ideas a great movie. we have some social media questions for a meal her shoe courtney join on twitter wants to know which actors you admired both presently all from the past well for me you know top of my list the shawn band i mean you know getting does getting to see him act as i did when i worked with him in milk and getting to see how he is when he directs and getting to see how he is you know as a human being in the contributions that he you know gives back to society like with

what he's going to haiti and he's just a model model actor i knew harvey milk and he was perfect i mean. that molly go boom tweets what or who did you study even perfect prize accent on lone survivor the lone survivor marcus luttrell the real life navy seal he's from around dallas and i really i love his accent i would always hear is accent on the set when he would be giving advice or you know telling us what to do and so i modeled i want to of i want to a voice coach in hollywood and i said and i played him tapes of marcus on you tube and i was like this is the voice of what i want to say i want clyde sound like marcus luttrell because it's not just the accent there's a certain cadence and a kind of confidence to the way that marcus speaks so we just we used his voice i think i told mark as a one point use of lego brother when you get it down there you use it when you go home. the accent i think sometimes you know holliday granger who plays bonnie in

the movie she's british so she would really try to stay in that accent all the time because you know she has this underlying paranoia that her britishness is just going to burst out of her at any second you know so we would actually stay me accent together all the time that color my memory was you know what sort of roles are most inspiring to take on. well for me i really love i do find particular enjoy enjoyment portraying people who have lived in real life it think that there's so much appreciation that you can. have for you know discovering the details in the past that someone has had in talking to people you know they knew and like in lone survivor for example getting to talk to danny dietz is friends and family you know on the phone skype ing meeting in person like that i really like there's no work ordering of cloud barrows there's no recording of clyde barrels when did he live ninety was born in one thousand nine hundred thirteen. but no

record could have been a recording of him i think that there was the there's there's not a whole lot of photographs either. be a rock go on did you come from a creative family how did your parents feel about your career choices yeah my mother she's an artist and she does lots of paper cut outs and drawings and paintings and you know my father certainly has an appreciation for the arts was he do i think he's i'm like a he was my manager for a long time you know he's like a bit of a producer you know he's kind of he does his own thing that could be thirteen tweets how does it feel to be so handsome does it get annoying after a while wow that's very flattering question no it doesn't. ok we finished the show with a game called if you only knew where the first girl you kissed yeah oh yeah thirteen . and. well she's married to someone in the military now so i don't think i can

really name or name because i might get something come of that after moser first that emma emma was the school. yes what kids' names didn't make the cut that hunter was the name we almost and hunter was a name that my parents had almost a great name we had a producer just passed away from home to one of the great name of valor is a great thing hunter is a little aggressive in the name i think if you're not i do what would you be. you don't know anything else with acting i don't know i think i think maybe i like to draw i do like to draw some maybe it was an artist sometimes you get there from your mother quality you most appreciate in other people honestly i think most eyeopening travel experience and going to haiti was i'm like. well i didn't i've been to the congo for

a week and i've been to zimbabwe but going to haiti the destruction of what had happened there was just very apparent and that was it was horrifying and sad and. you know you're seeing that much destruction everywhere sists shot is just shocking sean of and talks about the wonderful people of haiti yeah everybody you know people are so optimistic there and people are in such good moods. it's very since firing people that you know here there may be you know they have everything going for him but they're in a bad mood you know best advice you ever received the thing that springs to my mind is. it's actually it's not even it's not even i wouldn't even say it's advice it's one direction. that sean gave me and in the while we're asking the question this is very related to acting this isn't like a life advice thing but i asked him if you could actually related to life as

a question and he said don't make me do your homework for you you know i asked him some question about the backstory of the character or something like that and i think that there was just a good a good. you know piece of advice about self-reliance do you want to do is an actor try to think i know some actors do this of what this guy was anthony quinn told me if we play someone sixty years old he would think what was he like when he was twelve. i do i mean you know i've played a lot of real people now in there i often times even when i'm shooting a scene or preparing it or rehearsing a night i wonder and sometimes it's so infuriating so i ask what was the sky really like and are we getting are we getting it wrong you are the one being what was tried bera like when i was a kid all the time when he was a kid in a lot of times oh mike what was clyde like when you're shooting this scene what was this guy really like there's no way to truly know and you know you can try your

best to be as accurate as possible but at the end of the day there's times where you're still wondering and you still keep you up at night and then you find this character once and suddenly one day he decided that this guy lost his father early and it changed the way he saw him. but he bet he invented that yeah he was great guest so thank you dan let's let me alert bonnie and clyde on lifetime history and a and e. is everywhere maybe c.b.s. also take it you give me goosebumps. you have no it's not to watch this and remember you can find me on twitter with kings things we'll see you next time.

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