necessary to find a humane solution. you know it's a pure coincidence but i'm a journalist i'm thirty five but i also happen to be a board member of a moscow hospice so people that i work with very tightly they are actually confronted with lethally ill kids every day kids who die every day and when i talk to them about euthanasia they tell me that they yet have to come across at child who wishes to die because that hasn't happened yet in our case. could force will be. quite frankly it was more there are such cases because some kick will fall to very fortunately for that was it's not the same person who is facing this type of situation every time fifty of the secure very fortunately it is not the same families. i don't know but i can tell you that it's reassurance tell

us that this type of situation exists. and that unbearable suffering exists made existed because none is the number of cases that arise in the an extremely important number. the answer is no you know what you very fortunately the answer is no or no but there are cases and it is necessary to respond to them now this is the reality city the sort of hill. and you know in two thousand and two when the law permitting ethan asia for adults was passed we have heard arguments saying that we did not care enough about the patients keep saying that's the reason we propose this type of solution but yet if they could pick a metaphor what is that it really is for me i can say that we do this because we truly care it's what you are putting this amendment through parliament to allow a solution which is both euthanasia and tell it you care and they will feel both

adults and children really care givers and doctors who continue to tell us that this choice is needed they want to support people at the end make sure. to do a circus who will have you had a situation where parents ask for their children to be killed three thing in asia. not of with parents not with my immediate circle. i want to remind you again that i am a doctor and as doctors we can be confronted with the situations that are highly different the situation with the citizen because we find ourselves in a situation similar to the experience of someone emotionally close to us. it's not because we find ourselves in this kind of situation that we take initiative but we take this initiative because we want to fix the overall situation

existed that's what is most important but why and why i'm so pissed to find out your personal opinion on experience is because this is a very personal law it's a very emotional law it's a law that for many crosses ethics or morals so i don't know if you have any children but if you had any children i mean would you allow them to decide on matters of life or death i can answer your in any case see that if god forbid i had a child it would end up in this type of situation and i want to point out that by this type of situation i mean a child a teeny film whose suffering is related to an incurable disease who will die in the near future if such a trial and you can ask me see it and then to he's or her suffering i would respond positively. and i believe that's it's the entire population in belgium when asked

to answer a survey posing the same question also replied in an overwhelmingly positive manner . i want to repeat that it isn't the fact that we want to end the suffering of a child. which is outrageous. suffering itself that it's outrageous what is outrageous is that all children are suffering because children are dying. what these are true is that there are children who are suffering from cancer what we're doing is precisely preventing this scandal and thus preventing the suffering of these children and teenagers but we're still talking in general terms take us through an average case which ends and someone being here tonight what are they suffering from how long does the decision take. driven to exult grew.

not fall i will give you an example. if a child is suffering from a cancer which he did but equally affects children i don't want to give any exact narcisse what we know about these cancers affecting children leukemia or cancers for example. nothing do with him should we provide them with a chemical therapy to help them we provide them a second kemah ferric the third one by the day there comes a time for such patients that you know if they had been clued in for example of these seeking young people with brain tumors for there comes a time where we can no longer ease the suffering and there is no hope for a. number of us who've need nischelle we know that death will occur and it's coming soon that he exists a number of such cases exist here law will fulfill more under these conditions these children a cubit they turn out to be more mature than many dolts could see them all but for

some sleep because they're facing disease precisely because these children are about to die city if he does he even has his own phone. if you would you care little since you're saying that there aren't so many cases then why bother with the law why not just go case by case basis because the minute this becomes a law if you know that there will be plenty of room for error for abuse because not all doctors are completely honest not all of them are totally professional or dedicated to their profession and i'm sure that it could force well. listen quite frankly frankly i don't know who you are talking about. nor a key there is a law in belgium that has existed for ten years we made a law that makes it possible for a doctor to make the last humane gesture for a patient who is suffering this is at the same time we stablished an evaluation

commission to which all the phoenicia cases should be reported for ten years but there has been a regular report made by this commission that the never has this commission found abuse that is an important element and then you know those who talk about abuse i think that they have rarely faced this situation themselves. we know what it is like for a doctor or for a caregiver or for the family is the point to take into account the year requests there are being made by patients and relatives in case of an incurable disease the songs to be able to hear them out and to respond to them positively will go full sister when we know what it means in terms of patient support as a gesture it is the gesture of euthanasia. i think that we finally realize that abuse cannot exist by the bus because the burden of it is i would say the emotional

empathetic burden thrilling to this gesture of the six truly important to keep and i believe that those who. actually there are those who for their reasons are obviously opposed to euthanasia. i want to recall that the laws in belgium and holland in luxembourg these laws. aereo freedom put in place guarantees to prevent abuse but do not force anyone to make the gesture if they don't want to. still believe that when we talk about the specious that the gold sort the children or teenagers give these patients or request. it is a very humane gesture to carry out their request. to take. several we're going to take a short break now and we'll be back with philip now

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and we're back with fake mal belgian senator supporter of fellow lounge euthanasia for minors a good to have you back out mr now so just to precise there won't be any age restrictions in this law. if there are restrictions that are not connected to each tied to the understanding that the child or the teenager may have the situation that's why we kept as a criterion the capacity for the sermon now the words we have to ask a psychologist psychiatry sed it was not connected to the situation to assess the but if there was a quest that was made by this miner that he saw that repeatedly suffering from an incurable disease after treatments that have become unnecessary if that request of it was made with fool understanding that is there were i repeat that we found that the maturity of the children who are this suffering the maturity of children facing disease facing death he's often greater than that of many adults so it's really the

psychologists who decides on whether a child is in the right condition to decide on their own life right. exact that will don't exactly that's how it is written in the law. that's a person from the outside dogs that you know psychologist is psychiatry's determine see if the moderate has an understanding of the situation if the moderate is making a request which he or she is fully aware of the get involved. and this minor can be four or sixteen right. it's hard obviously if you understand that a miner who is four years old is a bill to make a request of this nature of being perfectly aware of what he's asking for that the set of all it's not the role of the legislator in any case to determine how these

things could be evaluated by specialists and we have a fact to be assurance that these specialists are able to determine if the child has this capacity for understanding or it will come at the end you as a doctor what do you think at what age does a child become able to take such a serious decision. because he could be that the you do understand that as a legislator i have proposed that there be a report on the state of awareness of a child because he says you need. so. that there is a right of each for this you know i would have suggested that we said it would you say no big thing no we consulted with a bunch of specialists many of whom are doctors and psychologists that he could and we have consulted lawyers and the old told us that we should not introduce an age provision but instead he said what in this criterion awareness is so they suggested

this because they consider that each case is interviewed. so it is impossible to determine an age limit they don't. so i can answer your question that so are kept the condition of awareness the ability of discernment who needed it that the said in the morning he didn't tell them said well you know a lot of people who are opposed to low will tell you that minors don't have the right to drink or vote or get married but if they have an incurable disease does this really give them the competence to make such an adult's decision. but imam you're asking me if i know if a child is aware and capable of understanding he's a reverse situation put it can i would like to remind you we are not in the child's shoes we are not suffering from an incurable disease which causes pain in my that yet for which multiple treatments were given that have led it's a nothing people wanted we have to remember this. so you know it's easy to have

a definite answer to make a decision like that in the place of someone else we are not in the same situation . we don't make decisions for those for whom we care for those who are working closely with patients those who know you know proud of they can actually according to the law decided in their heart and conscience to respond to a formal request positively i think that's the right way to do it st that means not the legislator who will more merely be at the bedside of children or adults who are suffering it is the medical personnel who will have to solve the problem but at least the law allows them to respond he mainly to those requests falls this is about the possibility for everyone to choose at some point not to accept this suffering and to say it is certain point. is enough sets he said she and

consider that one can finally asked to die or do what the so that the suffering stops or nothing gets in the end if freedom is that it will be a freedom that is related to human rights humans in general. for centuries we've evaluated. people who are condemned to death of an hour before they'd be pulled the executed for let's say offensive opinions the weren't just executed but don't be put to death with pain and only horrible suffering if you fall for it and well we follow a process that is exactly the opposite approach but you don't have a strong supporter of the abolition of the death penalty in all the countries of the world i'm opposed everywhere doctor and always to all forms of torture i'm opposed to the bell you mean i think that pain is pointless except when it is

a no. signal a signal of diagnosis. for the rest of the approach fits into a battle of into vigil versus. a discussion of humanity against this vision of society a society that would condemn to death which would execute the use of pain our approach is the next stage when we see that one can avoid the inevitability of this pain a few of the few but when it is unbearable it was the duty of humanity to do so and to allow one to do so called of us it discomfits of acute looks what are you going to do with a palliative care like gall everyone who works in the field will tell you that if there is a request for euthanasia and palliative care is available if you would no one ever choose is use an asia yeah on that but if the national debunkers i med to cure it.

well i will tell you this in two thousand and two when there was a vote on the law for the good i tabled legislation two pieces of legislation well this one of which involved the implementation of palliative care and the other concerning the possibility of patients benefiting from euthanasia and so my belief shared by the majority of the population in the majority of the caregivers. in our country it is to consider the implementation of pallets of care but it's one but that's not because we have implemented pelleted care that automatically first this palette of care eliminates any request for euthanasia so one does not exclude the other and then there is the freedom everyone seems to consider that at a certain point pellets of kerry isn't enough not really want to clarify that if we you know as a doctor and caregiver firstly that poor old patients who come to consult what is

the primary approach the pro-choice to treat them will be and to try to heal them that's the primary approach it will be second approach if that's not possible if you still recognize at some point the source is not possible and that the disease is too strong and if we can't treat the disease patient must die we must enable them to die in the most dignified way possible and to die in the most dignified way possible can be done either through palettes of care or through a request for euthanasia even the best belet of cure doesn't eliminate the requests for euthanasia in any case it's their responsibility a choice which is left with each patient that's what's important to freedom of ethical in our society that positive response based on individual choices based thinking about ethics of you witnessed any cases where a doctor refused to use it in asia on

a client of he'll. maybe you know so of course you know there is no element of. the laws we are voting on keeping we open a space of freedom that makes it possible to give a positive response to request for euthanasia it will key to prove when we speak of freedom we also speak of freedom of conscience for everyone feels keyed and so it's provided for in the law that if a doctor refuses. to sleep has the right to do so. it is the conscience which dictates if he will accept it or not the soul of his he's conscience that will tell him he agrees to support it patient to the end or that he's unable to do it because of a philosophical or religious imperatives of course there were refusals he said that in these cases when a patient makes a request and the doctor refuses in full right and some do give up well i did some

horton to continue to care about that means that when confronted with a patient's request if the doctor refuses the calls and i think he has the obligation to actually on their request to someone else because at some point he ultimately refuses to support his patient is that yes you will it's a rule that applies not only here you know in that assent when we take on a patient but we have an obligation of responsibility focus it and when we can no longer provide this support we also have the obligation to see that this responsibility is covered by someone else. but get go into it one way because you don't see an ethical issue for example paying a doctor to and someone's life there is no i think a problem there. listen we don't pay someone to end the life of someone else as if it was isolated it's never isolated and in fact if you

talk of doctors are paid for giving cared about supporting people and if you mean man or a doctor. or team is responsible for a patient each time a different individual and an individual who is suffering. there at the end of the road when there is no way that support will use the essence self assuming responsibility one speech that up so what are you saying about payment courses i think that anything done professionally deserves compensation who could thing otherwise much about your doctors receive payment for taking responsibility for their patients. and they understand what that responsibility entails. oh mr mouse thank you very much for this interesting interview we're talking to phillip our belgian senator who is actually a proponent of a law for minors it's been great talking to you and will speak to you in the next

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