well here at home are are they employed distraction tactics with this whole credit suisse business we'll let you decide. tokyo based mt gox was once the largest because an exchange in the world now it appears to be bust the question today however is whether the whole propos currency movement has been dealt a fatal blow max kaiser the dynamic of the kaiser report here on our t.v. is a crypto currency evangelist and he thinks the mt gox episode is good for crypto currency is because it strengthens the community by a limiting exchange with poor systems and controls max has his own crypto currency max coin so i began by asking him to give us the full deep read on max going take a look. is next generation cryptocurrency cryptology is

stronger it's faster there's a lot of money moving into alternative currencies like. this is one of the fallout from the bitcoin situation with mt gox people realize that they need to diversify into other coins other crypto coins and max coy is immediately one of the most popular alter currencies as they're called are crypto currencies in the market and we've got some surprises coming from. friends to the cryptology that will place it probably the salute cutting edge of crypto currency is if i want to invest in max point what do i need to do for the layman if it's just someone watching today what would they do to go get some coin. well there are a number of exchanges that offer max coin including m. c. x. now which is the first major crypto exchange to offer it there's a lot of crypto trading going on right now people are trading in and out of bitcoin

they will acquire bitcoin position then they'll go to an exchange in the choir max coin position so once you enter the crypto world you're free to trade in two out of different currencies but you have to make that first move out of fear and into crypto so most people go through big coins and once you have a bit coin that's kind of your gateway into these other alternative currencies like max coins so the market capitalization day one got up to five or six million dollars there's a several million that have been created or mind already people are mining these things in the twenty four hours a day they're making money mining mack's going and they're going to exchanges they're exchanging them for other alternative currencies for bitcoin and this entire crypto market is really becoming quite significant and i'm not surprised that you're seeing a lot of the established banking industry quite nervous about what this portends for them right it could mean a lot of negative things on their side but you know with mt gox having imploded is

a big question going to zero that's the real question will big coin go to zero. no i don't think that's the case to say to imply that mt gox blowing up it will impact the intrinsic value of fifty point is incorrect because bitcoin itself the cryptology and the protocol is as a value well beyond how it's traded on a one exchange in this case mt gox i think it's showing a remarkable resiliency in the face of the mt gox collapse if i remember if you look at like world com and ron lehman brothers bear stearns those are paper ponzi great empires that collapsed is zero or near zero because they were there's no intrinsic value whatsoever with crypto with going you have one of the major exchanges mt gox going through enormous difficulties but there's still

a tremendous value people are buying it knowing that the long term value is very good you've got second market in new york a very sober launching more advanced trading platform to mt gox was really a toy. exchange where they were trading virtual trading cards from a few years ago they were never really in a position to be a serious trading platform so this is not a surprise really and the value of the big going to stuff is holding up very well and i expected to make new all time highs in the next six to nine months. what you say to those who say that you know for any crypto currency has no intrinsic value. well that's correct because the cryptology is extraordinarily valuable internet age where you can harness the network of tens of thousands of computers to go through the algorithms in the protocols to decipher the machinations required to mine

a bit coin and this at the end of the day has value above and beyond what is. see technically has no intrinsic value if you talk to paul krugman at the new york times he'll tell you that well yes the u.s. dollar has no value except it is backed by men with guns. you know this is not really a currency so much as a license to invade countries star wars create kleptocrats become a monopolist it's not really a currency the u.s. dollar is not a currency the us dollars a license to commit war crimes pretty much backed up by psychotic warmongering pentagon that's not really a currency gold is a currency silver is a currency bitcoin is a currency the dollar is not a currency the british pound is also another license to invade in the extra exploit and extort it's not really a currency for say has no intrinsic value. max we can always count on you for those

sound bites like warmonger in pentagon so thank you now i want to ask you how do you get people other than true believers to transacting crypto currency when it fluctuates as much as big as i mean what are you doing to tackle this on the front of maps point well you're saying adoption of the currencies in countries that are undergoing tremendous stress so in cyprus they're now opened a coin bank and a crypto bank which is now just like any other high street bank that's doing business purely in point you've got venezuela active in bitcoin you've got eastern europe russia active in bitcoin the ukraine apparently is active in bitcoin so countries on the periphery that have been disenfranchised by the money center banks who are backed up with men with guns remember that's where the fee accuracy is about they now realize that as a store of value as a way to transport their money they're adopting crypto currencies so when this will end up in the center of the global economy in the g twenty countries that will come

later but it's already happening in africa and europe and south america they're already adopting bitcoin is becoming a way of life because they realize it's a great store of value great way to sudden money and it's a great way for economic freedom economic sovereignty and the established bankers are really running scared i think this is what's behind a lot of the recent. kind of increase in banker suicides we've seen about twenty bankers have committed suicide the last few weeks i think that they realized the jig is up bitcoin is here crypto currencies are here that they can't compete with crypto currency the they fear having to actually work for a living and not just get printed money from the government and pat themselves huge bonuses so they're taking the cowardly way out they're killing themselves and this is what you'd expect in a club talk or see that's fed by the money printing and quantitative easing so quantitative crypto currencies are really pushing aside the malevolent in fl. and psychotic bankers who do nothing but pat themselves huge bonuses start wars and

create huge wealth and income inequality max you've mentioned that countries on the periphery they've really adopted decline and embrace state or their own crypto currencies but do you think most governments will see crypto currency is as a threat and try to ban them you kind of said yes but i would love you to expand upon that. flow that a lot of as you point out governments and people are adopting bitcoins for example in iceland they developed or a coin which is a crypto currency for the people of iceland you have them as a coin in the united states for the nation of the indigenous population indians are a look oh to nation are creating their own coin in scotland they're trading scots going again to establish their own sovereignty and service of will there be a pushback from the established governments in the established banking industry of course there will be but they have really no ability to stop this wave of

innovation just like they can't stop p.d.p. file swapping they can't stop bit torrent they can't stop the internet is that they are there when they're going to be fighting a losing battle so this is unfortunately for them. not going to be pretty i think again that's why a lot of these bankers are killing themselves because they realise that they're never going to win this battle against crypto currency they're taking the cowardly way out i say don't kill yourself compete on an open you know be a capitalist compete with script don't just throw yourself off a building you know try to be more like a capitalist. that was max kaiser host of the kaiser report here on our t.v. now you want to miss the second part of my feeling them tomorrow find out why he says the head of one big bank should be behind bars but time now for a quick break but stick around because that guy right there he's going to be with us after return obvious figure to dean baker there it is about the u.s. economy and asking him to explain some of the trends in the u.s. wage and consumption patterns that we've been seeing and in today's big deal i'm

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while the housing bubble was inflating macroeconomists dean baker was warning people of the problems as far as back as far back as two thousand and two was a while before it actually popped and he was also a frequent and boucle critic of the policies which caused the bubble to inflate in the very first place now after the bubble popped and the recession he anticipated crushed the employment outlook for the us dean has turned his focus to jobs we want to talk to him today to get his read on the jobs picture the u.s. economy and the housing market dean thank you so much for being here one of the few people can say i actually called the crisis before it happened because a lot of people say they do but they really have to have a paper very early on how serious. this is in the interim well don and i want to start by asking you now the economy the economy was growing above three percent all

through the second half of last year now people see one percent growth for the first quarter what is going on here can you give me some explanation well there's two things going on i think the main force is first off the growth and second half of last year was inflated by inventory cumulation with very very rapid pace of inventory cumulation i think anyone could think there would be continued so if you pull out the inventories the growth was somewhere little over two percent so that's kind of the underlying growth rate that's what you would expect it to fall back to once you have the adjustments so there's two stories here as we get into the first quarter one of the slower pace of inventory cumulation that means a drag on growth that's a negative second thing whether i was really whether i keep to i don't know i was too poor for the longest time to start preparing let's listen we're going to we always get bad weather in december and january so that's not news but this was definitely worse and i'm saying that because i got stuck in minneapolis there's a story you know because i personally felt everybody but no it definitely was i would say through january it wasn't noticeably worse but through for. worry definitely was so so i would say that was had an effect slowing growth you know

half a percent maybe as much as three quarters of a percentage point so i think weather really did have an impact given the weather it had something to do with extreme weather in places that aren't familiar with it it wasn't like a lot of snow in new york where they can handle and there can accommodate it was atlanta and other that's right you had a lot of areas in the south that don't typically get such severe winters right so the fact that i mean that's why i was pulling it originally so that you know that new york got snow or boy you know that shocker that happens in january so that's not news so it is when you get in atlanta it shuts down much of the south ok now dean i want you to take a look at these two charts that we have right here there from the same data site now the first one if we get those back out there right now it shows the real wages plummeting during a crisis and then rising again recently however they plummeted once again and now the second chart we're going to pull up it shows real consumption expenditures also plummeting during the crisis and then picking up briskly and then flat lining you

can see there from twenty eleven onwards what do you make of the differences between these two charts. the wage story this is very striking to me we've seen very weak wage growth really for the last three decades the one period where we actually saw good wage growth was the end of the ninety's right you know where we had low unemployment that's you know i think really fundamental so we've seen very weak real wage growth you know depending on exact time period stagnant or even falling slightly in terms of consumption people are able to maintain their consumption to some extent or even increase it to a large extent because of this increase in asset prices so this was the housing bubble so part of the story of the housing bubble was that it's people's house prices went up they were borrowed against their homes and they sustained or even increased their consumption now that house prices fall and consumption of course is falling back with it right now do you think this. this this chart that we just had up it kind of demonstrates the problems with aggregate demand oh no oh yes. you know this is this is the basic story that you know we're stuck in

a situation where we have any adequate aggregate demand this is something economists basically dismissed as an issue for decades they just didn't think it could possibly be a problem and now we're having you know economists very pramod comes like larry summers talking about secular stagnation that's basically the story and until you know that the story i was saying is ok with three ways out of this one you can have another bubble thing in the right mind would want not that secondly we could have large amounts of government spending government deficits which we have to some extent but not nearly big enough the third way is to get the trade deficit down which strikes me is the best the most rational path to go unfortunately there doesn't seem that much interest in that either in policy circles but that's the my view how we get you know aggregate demand back up and hopefully would see wage growth again dean talk to me about this how what about trade how would that work we will start with trade when we have a deficit around five hundred billion that means that money being generated here it's spent overseas china mexico wherever it might be not creating demand here so

it creates a big hole in the manner how do you fill that the best way to correct the trade deficit is get the dollar down because the dollar is what determines relative prices if the dollar falls by twenty percent other things equal all these foreign goods cost us twenty percent more that means we'll buy domestic goods rather than foreign goods people will hate hearing that now well we've done this before and there is no other way you would just that so the people are paying more course we're all going to you know we'd rather get cheaper imports but on the other hand i mean a lot of jobs for people and they won't eat that they want to well put actually there will be a lot of opponents to that and that thought but it you stated it quite well now why do you think people's consumption patterns are so static in the face of all the their relation and wage an income growth that we're seeing right now why why the static well there's a couple things i mean one is people are largely set in their ways but also a lot of consumption is pretty much fixed month to month you know you're not going to move out of your home you know that's a big portion of consumption your health care and there's a lot of things you know if you have a car you're making. arraignment says

a lot of things if you think about where your dollars are going an awful lot of what you spend month by month that's pretty much fixed you know you know people always have an option to go to dinner or something like that so there are things like that but to a very large extent consumption is fixed and that's what we really do see big ups and downs in consumption you know over over short periods of time right it's not like vacations are going to. going to cross that pattern it's the big the big ticket items now i want to talk about this you wrote a piece with jared bernstein on there is called replacing excuse me let me get the title right getting back to full employment a better bargain for working people now in this i want to i want to ask you. how do we get to anything close to full employment you talked about this a lot in the piece and i read it was fascinating but i want you to explain kind of to our viewers how do we get back to that well the key thing is we have to get demand up and you know we just went through the three ways again my best stories get the trade deficit down and get the dollar down no there is another route that

we talk about well but in the book and maybe this is the most promising way politically is to actually reduce the supply so one way to do that is through work sharing which is actually you know our model here is germany germany people often look at the unemployment it's five point two percent they go well booming economy you know their economies grow no more than our economy the reason why they've maintained a low unemployment rate in fact lower than before the crisis is that they get employers to keep workers on the job when they see a fall off in demand and they cut back hours so rather than laying off ten percent of the workers they cut back hours by ten percent and that's a very good way to go it works and this kind of i we're running out time but i want to quickly mention this you are you know supporters of modern monetary very they've long called for replacing unemployment benefits with job guarantee and that reduces the social issues associated with forced i don't mess what do you think of this kind of idea i know that you're you're into it well i'm willing to experiment with that i want to say replace it because you have to see what they looks like if you're talking about having millions of people being played by the government you

want to make sure you could do that when there was a blow up in your face jeanne i'm so sorry i wish we had more time i have a lot more questions and you explain this very well but that is all the time we have for now please come back very soon that was macro economy is dean baker co-founder of the center for economic and policy research time now for today's big deal. in today's big home sales are up and edward harrison knows about it and he's going to to talk. about it now we're going to be discussing january surge and home prices you know what has happened kind of on one hand mortgages applications they did mortgage applications that's what you do you fill out to buy a home they've been at their lowest levels in nearly two decades and this means not as many buyers are in the market heading into the spring season which is usually

the busy time of year when it comes to buying homes so i got her start up asking new home sales are up but the more job creation seem to be weak what's been driving this recent recovery in home prices if this is the case in terms of buying a home in two thousand and thirteen things were looking up home prices were going up but actually the rate of growth has been declining in home prices recently and the interesting bit is we're talking here about new home prices new homes are only seven percent of the market existing home prices or exit existing home sales i should say are at eighteen month lows so you have mortgage applications you have existing home prices down that's ninety three percent of the market you know the fact that we have new home sales that's not really that big a deal right it's not it's not as important as they're reporting it to be a lot of exile that's found want to take a look at this graph really throw it up on the screen if we can now the bottom half of the graph shows how big of a drop in housing prices each city experienced at the top half of the graph shows

how much each market has recovered have las vegas miami and phoenix the biggest drop and i mean they tend to win this stuff and the best recovery and so i thought the bubble bursting in these housing markets you know how how can this happen again you know it's happened before how can it happen again and can you explain what's happening in these markets because they are volatile markets they're crazy markets and there's a lot of jokes made about them but how do you how do you predict what's going to happen with the bottom fell out of these markets and no one was there to pick up the bottom and people came in. and investors real cash investors came into the market i think we actually even have some graphs on that you know it's either phoenix or las vegas we can put that out there that out we can show that some of us you know what we see here i think this is this is the one for phoenix or it's the overall market you can see that those are all ok of cash investors was increasing

as we had the increase how we have grown as well as very ones that are you see that . here's the interesting thing. is you can see it's up except the part at the bottom is showing that even though vegas is still going up and we see big a sort of a harbinger of what happened elsewhere because they lead in terms of the way down and in the way up the cash buyers are now increasing and so people are starting to get out the cast by smart money you know our money is getting out of that market and yet we still see that things are going up so the question is is this a harbinger of you know the market softening somewhat not necessarily the market going down but the home price appreciation softening so when you look back at what dean baker was say about aggregate demand or whatever being there to the degree that it's been it's been boosted by the housing market we have potentially

a headwind in terms of getting that getting that g.d.p. growth so the question is why are they point out the smart money and why you know that it's you explained it kind of put it you'd think that they'd ride it longer you know well the smart money the reason that they're smart is because they see every one of his sisters going to the market when you're plumber tells you that this is the they've decided these markets have risen enough they've gotten their money you know they bought at a low price now they're sort of the high price and rather than get greedy and take everything that's on the table take the chips off the table move on to other places where they think that there's a better return so real quick thirty seconds what do you think is happening with the housing mark. twenty fourteen what do we have to. have a softening of the pace. so i think that the mortgage application slowdowns would continue and then therefore the year over year changes that we see in things like the case schiller and x. are going to come and so eventually will be. ed thank you as always have wished we could talk more about this but that's all for now however you can see all segments

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