tv Documentary RT June 9, 2014 2:30pm-3:00pm EDT
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just a passing story. that in a band leader of france is from the us are not welcome to the program it's great to have you here i am in a similar bend last time we spoke you predicted in the elections you become the number one party in france and here we are your number one so what's the very first thing you're going to do if. the first thing that i will do is constitute a group in the european parliament to be able to prevent any new advances towards european federalism which i consider to be profoundly antidemocratic i believe that it goes against the sovereignty of the people and the economic social and international interest of france. so along with our allies will now be able to provide a new voice different from the one which dominates and the european union to form a more. talk a little bit more about the european elections now when you look at the bigger
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picture you are skeptics are in a minority in the chamber and they aren't even forming a bloc yet so there wasn't really a victory so to say why do you think there is so much talk in the press as well. in this political earthquake that has taken place. we. want to follow the rules of operation of the european parliament will oblige the left wing and right wing parties of the parliament the european peoples party and the party of european socialists to come together to defend their stances against the euro skeptics. i think it is a moment in history where it will become apparent that there is no right or left wing that all this as a farce that in fact they defend the same ultra liberal vision the same vision of a federal europe the same vision of pursuit of the sovereignty of the people maybe we have to go through this so that the people become aware that this left right
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fracture that was so much to them is truthfully speaking political through it believe me we saw the faces of the people here in brussels who saw us come pouring in i think they believe the tall presence will decided they change their appearance of the european parliament and evidently all of the details that will take place in the parliament. how big is the problem of this year commissioners you want to get rid of like has this hour to issues so serious. sovereignty is the foundation of democracy without sovereignty there is no democracy because having the freedom to cost a ballot and the ballot box is one thing but if the people you elected with your ballot have no power because the actual power was transferred to a supernatural body then we are no longer in a democratic process and this is exactly what we are currently going through i think it was a nine hundred fifty seven and the national assembly mendez front said that there
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are two ways to establish totalitarianism either all of the powers are united together or we transfer all the power to a supernatural body well that's exactly what they did by building the european union they transferred the sovereignty of the people to a supernatural body that is not elected and has no legitimacy and that imposes its will on the people this is true for our territorial sovereignty we're no longer in control of our immigration policy since with all of our borders are open this is true for the monetary sovereignty since we are no longer in control of our currency our budgetary sovereignty it has just been transferred to the european union but also our legislative sovereignty since currently eighty percent of the laws which are voted in the french national assembly are actually a transcription of european directives i consider that france is a free country and it should stay that way and since we're home to all of our liberties we should fight to get them back from the hands of those who stole them without our knowledge and against our will. just
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a little while back there was talk about the nearly rising super powers the european union in this election shows that the blog is far from being universally approved superstate. we'll hear about never unite now. europe is not at stake it is the european union that is at stake europe exists and it consists of nations whose wealth lies in their uniqueness their sovereignty their freedom and democracy so i'm for a unit of nations so i wish that tomorrow we can constitute a europe that could expand but to countries that have preserved their sovereignty and would work together on corporative projects this is what works and this is what i want to implement but in order to do this we have to dig construct this european union. it's not very long time ago i was talking to a member of an alternative for germany party and he says that he wants to divide
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the euro zone into the rate schnorrers and to poor south. do you think this is a solution. no i think this is utopian i think the twenty trying to stick lost on the structures that it was forty from the beginning as far as the euro since this is really about the euro they want us to make a northern europe and a southern euro zone but in this case what is their advantage for southern countries to continue to have the euro imposed on them it would be better if they reestablish their national currency and adapt the level of the national currency to their economy to boost driver's employment and that supports now if germany wants to keep a euro monks iran that territory that is their responsibility if they see their interests that they're free to do it but we have no interest in integrating a sub-zero structure. so you've also said that you want to defend french interests
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in the case germany what are those french interests or chairman policies infringing upon. crystal let things be clear i am not a demand of this one make any sense i cannot be mad at germany for defending their interest i simply find that their interests are divergent from ours it is that simple i criticize the french leaders for not defending france's interests and for defending germany's interests for example in the case of the euro we can see that the euro was created for and by germany the euro is custom tailored but in a way that fits only germany and not any other country of the european union what would. i want something tailored for me and for this i want a national currency is specially since currency is a part of the sovereignty of that one currency one country this is the way that ninety five percent of the countries in the world function by the way if tomorrow
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we go back to our national currencies german marks would be overvalued compared to the euro our new francs would be devalued compared with the euro and went down for benefit and germany would be at a loss currently germany is profiting from the euro since they have a currency which is structurally devalued which gives them a considerable competitive advantage of. this european union has fallen under the domination of germany since germany has managed to impose its views on all of the other countries. and to and martin from the point of view of the economy of employment of society who have suffered a considerable loss in the last few years and will not continue to accept the suffering of the french people to placate madam. you know so you're not a big fan of this charity palaces in your opinion are ruining heroes but where else needs to be done to combat the debt crisis that. surely not to do this in any
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case because the austerity policies that have been implemented have shown not only their injustice but their futility their own efficiency the abortion of their stars the policies is greece just look at greece we sense the greeks back to the middle ages. they use unemployment rate is at sixty percent thirty percent of the rest of the workforce a drop in unemployment compensation the drunken salaries a drop in civil servants by mrs no longer have access to appropriate health care zusak rates have doubled and there's been a fifty percent increase and the infant mortality rate is this progress is this what we have promised this is a disgrace it's scandalous. it doesn't reduce the deficit or debt. greece's deficit and its debts are still increasing this is why i say that the austerity policies are both inefficient in attaining their objectives which is reducing deficit but they're also profoundly on just real and almost inhumane when
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look at the fact that in some hospitals in greece when women come to give us that given they have baby only in exchange for a bill to pay for their delivery. but every bit as good as it could you want to see as they had a european commission. it was almost completely don't care that all interchange of all this is a legend for you for your files would tell them to look at cetera while in reality all the same completely the same the president of the commission as the want to know the prison that's it but he is that to enforce the outlook ation of the rules so whether the warden is if you will apply the rules inside the prison this is exactly what the head of the commission does what collins is who will best apply the ultra liberal policy the transfer of sovereignty the expansions they want to
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impose on various european populations the signature of the transatlantic treaty with the united states which refund money contest and which will fight tooth and nail and. came up civil cool a point that it was we're going to take a short break right now we're back with matt into the band leader of france's national front just out about this war and i mention of you publicist and what she thinks needs to be changed stay with us. from a kid of ukraine has a new president and he's made it clear that no new ideas on how to resolve the country's dire problems but a show called says he wants
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and we're back with many of ben had old friends he's one this year now it's great to have you back on our show sure about. that so let's talk a little bit about the events in ukraine now you've called the e.u. and democratic monster which has made things worse whether it's offers of partnership to q. and a how exactly. listen obviously when the european union made this partnership proposal to ukraine this basically meant a rupture of their relationship with russia it was a kind of blackmail that could only fuel the divisions of ukraine since we know that within the country there are citizens in the east which look towards russia and some in the west which look towards the european union were well aware of this
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and few willing these divisions was obviously putting in place conditions for a danger of civil war says the european union started initial fire and since then has only aggravated the situation via threats blackmail and sanctions which we can clearly see do not contribute to bringing everyone to the table to find a peaceful and reasonable resolution to this conflict. that to us seeing that here i've had an understanding of that division between the east and it was like you're sad because sometimes you get an impression that europe had no idea what it was getting into. by definition it is not up to me to defend the competency of these bodies to not know this would be tragic such to political ignorance seems astounding to me nevertheless the result is that the european union did not play the role that it could have played and it contributed to aggravating the situation . what is really a shame is that countries like france no longer have
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a diplomatic voice because here is a conflict in which france if it had kept a strong political voice a balancing voice like the one i wanted to recover what it could totally manage to overcome these difficulties. the diplomacy of the european union is a catastrophe and not only in ukraine each time the european union participates on the global stage it is usually either to create a problem or to aggravate. it. and as far as sanctions go against russia teasing it's a sign. foreign policy is subordinated to the u.s. how far do you think they will take those sanctions. i'm wondering if i don't know maybe eventually the european union will have to face reality and come to the conclusion that it's not do it advantage to bend to america's well. in any
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case that is what i hope because these sanctions have contributed to strengthening everyone's opposing positions which makes no sense we were completely aware of the fact that russia faced with these sanctions wouldn't say oh well if it's going to be like that no problem do what you want that doesn't make any sense the sanctions that were imposed including those imposed on russian deputies and even the president of the duma which are even more problematic a rupture in historical traditions on a diplomatic level. generally do not sanction deputies because they are the expression of the people so i am under the impression that there are no more rules except maybe the ones imposed by the united states which once again defend their own interests but their interests are not our ways. it can ukraine ever become. a member and do you thing it's.
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obviously not obviously. when the european union promised to let ukraine become part of it it clearly contributed to the class aggression of tensions within ukraine ukraine will not become part of the european union or won't tell tales ukraine absolutely doesn't have the economic level to become part of the e.u. going and once again it is a long way down the list i'm opposed to any new expansion so i say this with no judgment whatsoever i threw friendship towards the ukrainians so i went to my friends to the table of nightmares that i want to leave the european union i come to invite them to join me in your bed but also say the economic levels of ukraine are so low compared to our ways on a social level so it would be once again and ancient european competition which would be insurmountable for our country i think their average salary is around
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three hundred euro they can imagine that they would face competition that will once again excessive brain economic and social tensions within the european union. so i think it is a law it is a promise that we knew full well that we would not keep. the g seven condemned russia for the situation in ukraine without more sanctions which is one why our question leaders calling on russia and on putting a turn to violence now the government in kiev i mean they do have a newly elected president right now so why not ask him and the government. was still that's a good question because we are at the culmination of a cold war that has been fought against russia by the united states to which the european capitals have completely submitted on an international level it's as simple as that under shame as well. and i would like to seize this opportunity to
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express my compassion and my sadness and my disgust to see. these civil victims in the east of ukraine. who are dying surrounded by the general indifference of the european political world and media. it is a real scandal which is happening on our doorstep and you're right to say that from the moment she crane has legitimate government it is the government which must take responsibility. but for this would need to demand to do cranium the government dismantle and design arm the reigning militia which would most likely embarrass a number of people. if you listen internationally ukraine were accepted and recognized by all the major powers in the west despite the civil war that's going on in the country and the fact that there was no vote in the country's rebellious to east region it at the same time elections in syria were branded
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illegitimate even before they were held. we resources yes but this has been happening for years i mean this auction such decides who is on the good side and who is on the bad side and this country change a tiny moment oh well the good guys of today will be the bad guys of tomorrow and maybe the bad guys of today will become good tomorrow if washington decides that it is to their advantage to make them good it is a shame since there is a substantial amount of mistakes that have been made at an international level under washington's influence especially in syria who are the only ones among the french political parties to oppose intervention in syria the first and only ones here from the beginning exactly but who are arming islamic fundamentalists who would if they did win implement a reign of terror like they did in libya this was once again because of us we
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helped them come to power. this is the american method the international american method they defend their interests or they think that they are defending them since sometimes they make serious mistakes which is terrible is that european countries no longer have a say in thing was there are no more sovereign nations in europe that can be the voice of reason for peaceful settlement of conflicts the voice of balance between different interests of different nations. if president obama said to security of america's european allies who say chris and promising to boost u.s. military deployment and exercises around europe does security lead this kind of support this. to defend ourselves against whom while you know that we are for leaving nato for france leaving nato we have a goalie and vision of what international politics must be like we are for
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developing our relations with russia without breaking ties with the united states we believe that france must maintain its relations with all of the world's great nations and we do not want to be imposed with a way of seeing things by anybody we aspire to have the freedom to determine the quality and the level of our international relations but didn't found ourselves against whom when we asked this question to a french politician his answer was china it's almost makes you laugh we can clearly see that as a matter of fact this is an opportunity for the united states to carry out its military integration and maybe tomorrow economic and to gratian to extend the scope of its influence the free trade agreements that the united states wants to sign a tele price is really just another way to tie the european union in the quest identity of a way to the united states this is once again a lot of independence not to mention the catastrophic consequences that this free
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trade agreement would have for us in terms of agriculture industry defense etc so this is much more a jew political treaty than a purely commercial or economic treat. if you buy that and finally madame le pen obviously after your success in the european elections everyone is wondering if you're going to run for president in two thousand and seventeen. listen if the followers of my movement put their trust in any since we have an upcoming congress in november well i will run to be reelected as the how to front nazionale if i'm re-elected as the head of the offender then i will obviously be a candidate for the future presidential elections which may take place earlier than we expected to either the presidential or the legislative elections given the extremely low level of support for the president of the republic françois and longed for although i believe really using the presidential elections could take
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place earlier than scheduled alone could resign eventually rebuild because this group that's just want francois launce friends say have raised the question to figure out how they can hold on for another three years while sustaining such heavy losses in the all of the elections organized in the meantime and having just a sixteen percent popularity rating among the french population. i strongly believe in an early dissolution of the national assembly the results of this event a slate of election give the same results as the european election well the political party of the president of the republic which has all the power the state the national assembly the senate the regions thousands of municipality is one gathered less than fourteen percent of voices then i don't see how the president of the republic can continue like this in any case the question arises is will this double but i finesse difficult for them as ben thank you very much for the entry
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into everything gave told. us we're talking to many look bad french politician a leader of the national front and the number one party in france thank you very much we're talking about the future of europe that's it for this edition of so i think i'll see you next time. if. the tried to play. a pulling out of. your life for the short preaching every minute.
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