welcome to set the i'm going to not say right wing party the parliamentary vote with british voters throwing their support behind here a skeptic you keep a blog but will the card of success transfer into something bigger well david colburn member of the hearing in parliament for scotland is my guest today. then you win the euro skeptic you keep party took the recent do you elections by stool suggesting that britons are getting fed up with mainstream politicians in london in brussels. is this the beginning of the end for britain's euro story will you keep success force change to big parties or was it merely

a fleeting protest vote. david. scottish. thanks for joining us it's great to have you on our program today now we're going to start from the latest news day european commission has demanded a six billion hike to a budget from the u.k. now where is that money going well it's a very good question where is the money going they don't seem to know whether the previous money's gone for nineteen years they haven't been able to all that the accounts. well now you guys after the elections have twenty four places in the european parliament is set enough to do anything to change anything well the problem of the european parliament is being a member of the european parliament is like being a eunuch at an orgy the problem is you don't actually have any real power you can suggest legislation you can only react to it so what i will be doing is doing my best and my policy will be to highlight the more ridiculous aspects of the rules and regulations to try to bring in and try to our best choose to stop that which we

can just say we're twenty four members that should be a lot a lot better than it was before we have a good team here they're good quality they're all very united very together and we will be making a mark on the not only just in one part the u.k. but believe the whole of the u.k. including scaf and wales and we will be able to take the case for all those policy united kingdom to the european union. talking about what's going on inside the u.k. now i remember in two thousand and nine european elections your party had similar success got very good points but it failed to win a single set in a parliament later in a general elections are you afraid the same thing may happen this time round. i think there's a great change in the united kingdom i think people have had enough of the establishment parties. they have mucked it up they've made a very bad mess of the whole thing people want to change and i think we've know on

the brink there's a sort of almost like a revolutionary change in the way people are looking at politics in the united kingdom and i think that they want ukip to come and break to form a two party three party system and i think that we are brought to a breakthrough in a major way at the general election well you're still pretty controversial especially with the establishment i mean shadow foreign secretary douglas alexander suggested people have turned to the u.k. as a protest vote do you believe there's some truth to that. well i should think they have time to as a protest vote but it's more than just that it's a rejection of the establishment which have led us to the financial banking catastrophe we had recently who have not made a very good job of getting out of it. a professional political class that seems immovable and quite frankly people have enough they want to change they want to be to have their own safety seem to be ignored by the political class they want real

people in parliament and that's what you keep going to give them now let me ask you this let's say you keep doesn't make it into parliament this time around but other parties who do they adopt some of your policies in order to win the votes would you consider that as a success for you well obviously but i can't think what parties those might be i think ukip in the kingdom is. basically the third party no we were the first party in the european elections and we hope to carry that through become the first party in the major kingdom obviously we relisted. to win some seats in the general election our objective is to hold the balance of power. and in terms of creating a larger platform in the european parliament i mean you would still need support from a group in the parliament are you or are you not going to ask for a block with francis from there. but with who we are the more we are trying to form

a block. for our leader is doing at the moment he's very good sort of thing we should be getting somewhere we're making headway so you can very good but these things you run up to the why are there you don't ask me another question about how it's going to require ones that are actually that was i was asking you about a specific platform if you were going to actually unite with france's front with math and look ten. we will not be doing business with the party. that says. we just sort of thing then otoh sort of people and quite frankly that would be unacceptable but the trouble is in the european parliament european problem makes strange bedfellows you have to get into into bed with all sorts of people you wouldn't want to take home to see your mother but that's what i'm saying i cannot set differences aside and work with not enough time for say for the sake of a bigger cause. because. they were

a socialist party and also the they have a lot of history degree of anti semitism that sort of thing absolutely unacceptable to you can't we are in that party we don't believe in that sort of nonsense and it's certainly not our way of doing things it's very british and we certainly would have nothing to do with it ok so david cameron has launched a real complaint to blogs on care from becoming europe's next year a commissioner is that something also supports. the last person we want to see is mr you're running your piece an absolute catastrophe of the first water obviously cameron's trying to save face by claiming who look we stop at the bridge and someone equally appalling i can assure you of that. it will be someone equally bad cameron will try to make some big. clever i've been i've stopped. but that's not going to wash with the british people people who will

see it all before they've had it all before and all the candidates standing for that position are equally appalling. but this is probably not the only point that you agree with you and cameron i mean cameron also says he plans to hold a referendum on leaving the e.u. curbing immigration is also on the conservative agenda so what's the big difference between your parties at the end of the day. there difference is that cameron almost at the last time before the last european election and didn't deliver it cameron promise with again that he promises it after the general election when the light who did you not going to get late to anyway so quite frankly is an empty promise and this is a major promise made last time nobody believes him you know the nickname is cast on camera he has cast iron guarantees which doors he's not going to give a referendum the man say you're enthusiastic the last thing he's going to do is give a referendum on the in the road to the european union the only party that is going to do that is you can't say you don't think that our friend is going to take place within two years even though he promised it would. no i don't think you he has no

intention whatsoever of the man that cameron is a you are enthusiastic he has absolutely no intention of giving anyone a referendum about anything he didn't do it last time he will do this time ok about you that are great here are skeptics so you're all for leaving the here opinion would do you not think that it would have certain reference actions and consequences for the u.k. we're a very least economically. well of course that one consequence is but will be the positives far outweigh the negatives we'll be able to organize our own economic future we won't be tied down by the european union when it comes to international trade treaties. we will be burdened by the enormous burden of laws rules and regulations which you know cause europe to be the school monster it is i mean the reason that europe is going going down over time is because the rules

and regulations are killing it strangling business and competitive and to business and you only have to look at the disaster that's taken place in spain italy greece to see the contrast to this were we to everyone else absolute. you know something we should definitely get away from we don't want the euro the year is a catastrophe we have but you know one has only or else you know how we're here i mean i would think that u.k. is in a very very religious position compared to other countries you don't even have the shango to sell but you do have a great trade going on with all the european union countries and all the privileges step the european member trade i'm going to chance do you think you'll be able to get hairy gay friends already so yes. yes well we the germans want to sell mercedes to was we want to buy french champagne and they want our goods so you know cause trade is going to continue as per usual is not to be any difference you know everybody wants to do business we don't need to be linked to each other as one

great nation to be able to do business we did perfectly well before the european union to do perfectly well after it ok and so the british accent how big of a blow would it be for the here appeal uni in itself what do you think. britain leaves probably will be a multiple for the european union because we're going to find the money at the moment the main countries are supporting european union britain and germany. and quite frankly i don't think the european union will be able to to stagger on in its present form if at all after we leave basically it's bankrupt it's out it's on walkable there are too many people wanting money out of it not enough people willing to pay money into it so quite frankly economic mess is a catastrophe it's not an economic currency it's a political currency it has no proper economic foundation and as such it's created disaster in southern europe million people marching on madrid complain about

unemployment. tools being thrown around and athens and talking about breaking up into constituent parts it's been disastrous for europe. so you're saying if britain is to leave then that will be the end of the e.u. well we're going to take a break right now hold your thought there will be back with david culbert here keep member of the european parliament for scotland is up more about the challenges britain faces at home and abroad stay with us.

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doesn't sound anything. to teach creation and why you should care about. this is why you should care only. we're back with david coburn here kate member of the european parliament for scotland it's great to have you with us now david to you fail there are disadvantages to being a single issue party what i mean is that if the u.k. leaves the e.u. what then for he ok. well we hope to take over government in the u.k. i mean we've been advancing steadily the next general election we have the trampoline of coming number one in the in the european election would be looking to take a lot of westminster seats and we were looking to form

a government in the united kingdom as soon as we could get enough people in parliament to do so. i understand that you would want to be in a government and take westminster states but what would be your agenda in terms of if the main issue at hand is gone and the united kingdom leaves the european union what's the second biggest. how well. it's more than just two european or and two european union that's not what we're about we're about an entire change in the way britain is governed and we posed to the to the current political class we want to remove these this professional class labor conservative it liberal democrats all the same sort of people cameron clegg you know. they're all the same sort of person in the end of them ever had a proper job in their lives we want to see real people going to real life experiences now that sort of people who stand for as members of parliament for ukip that sort of people we want people are fed up with professional politicians

professional political class they won't real people who had really experience is running the country and that's what we stand for that's great we want that is very very and what would you know what would you offer to people different that what cameron doesn't offer to them or any other professional politicians. what what what is it what is it going for and what you really are offering to the people in terms of agenda well you you keep you keep support from all different parts of society we try to greet you of labor voters coming towards us and if you believe the party no role no longer represents the working man. of middle class bleeding heart society the conservative party are only interested in big business they're bought and paid for by big business unless rules are bought and paid for by the european union one assumes they buy it so quite frankly the only party that really seems to represent. a change in the way the country is governed is ukip for

what i understand you people also supports a five year ban on immigration to settle alongside a system of temporary work permits what do you think was it they mean creation issues that want to hear a pin the first place well the european european open door immigration policy has been a catastrophe and we have open door immigration we simply can't have it we can't budget for schools we can't budget for pensions we can't budget for anything if you don't know who's coming into the country or how many people are coming to the country it also creates a great deal of problems socially and in terms of salaries people the bottom of society feel that their salaries are being are being crushed. you know they're not on the same much money they were before there's a lot of competition coming from elsewhere that's simply not on you can't have that sort of thing going you know there's an o.e.c.d. research that actually found my grants each make and that contribution of two

thousand dollars a year to the british economy do you simply just not believe that. well migration watch came out with different figures everybody comes out with different figures about this yes the. immigrants i vi were living in remaining was a country that i would be heading for britain as fast as i could be heading for spain or greece or any of the european countries which are bankrupt at the moment thanks to the european union and the euro to be heading for the u.k. every one of the better lives but it's not a question of that is a question we cannot just have unlimited immigration it's not fair on the people who live here at the moment we want to give everyone the opportunity if they can contribute something to the economy but we cannot have just mass open door immigration it's impossible now off the economic subject but still has to deal with immigration another interesting thing in britain is sharia courts and the sheriff street patrols in britain what are your feelings about that from early on

acceptable there is only one law in great britain and that's the queen's law that's it the queen makes a law. in great britain is over and we cannot have other bodies making any other form of law it's utterly unacceptable to come to britain they come because they respect our institutions and they want to live on there are institutions so the officers should respect those institutions we can't have a state within the state that is utterly unacceptable but do you feel in general the islamic extremism or the islamization of europe is as a kid a problem from for britain as it is for example for france. well i mean this is a very very big question. if people are coming to settle in you're in western europe or the coming to settle in england or in france they should respect the laws of those countries they obviously bring something of their own culture with them

which is always the general spice of things makes things more interesting but those are the set of laws and the ways of doing things in those countries and we just kept people coming along and changing things in that way especially in ways which we consider myself to consider to be utterly unacceptable what do you think about the scottish referendum in september do you think it's staying in the u.k. or it's leaving the u.k. what are your feelings. well scott scott to make up their own mind but my personal belief will be seventy thirty or sixty forty against independence for scotland we've had the three hundred year old alliance has a three hundred year old lines with england which is benefit both countries and enable both of us to punch above our weight on the world stage we have brought liberal democracy to the world we've got parliamentary government a lot of a lot of the world. and we have brought peace to the world we've fought together the russians against fascism in europe we've done lots of things together what's

not to like about that mr samad is not offering independence anyway mr salmon who's the leader of the scotia national party of. offering a rule from brussels because he wants to remain part of the european union he wants to rule from brussels and financial rule from frankfurt independence well let's say the u.k. survives the scottish referendum do you think there'll be a change in the i think well will ok and do you think things will stay just the same or there will be a drastic change in the governing system. nothing to be discussed after the scottish referendum at the moment is a bidding war between all the parties offering the scots lots of different sort of . goodies quite frankly you don't doing that we want to make up their own mind they're quite people do not them by themselves. let's talk a little bit about a topic that actually worries us the most in this part of the world which is ukraine and now one of the leaders of the movement in ukraine issued an appeal for

help to you keep expecting your party will understand mr ukraine's to reluctant to be part of the e.u. do you understand where these people are coming from. well no i would quite frankly that this whole business in the ukraine quite frankly is is caused by the european union and particularly cathy ashton who's quite unqualified for the job is as the european foreign minister whatever she's called this is the european union trying to do a bit of empire building extending into the ukraine and making offers which the cattle fulfill because the european union hasn't got money to rebuild the ukrainian economy they lead the ukrainians and so false sense of security which you know is absolute nonsense. when when the the wall came down when russia changed from being a communist nation the general idea everybody understood where the demarcation was between the russian zulu influence and the european zone of influence in the west

and sort of influence that's been respected here to for but you know this is not respecting russia's territory or indeed russia's zone or sphere of influence and i think going about interfering with that and making russia feel uncomfortable is creating problems throughout the european union is worrying people right on the front is from poland to install a new frontier our concern about what the european union are doing in the in the crimea we should leave it strictly alone it is not for us to interfere and that regard mr putin is a very strong man i don't respect everything he's done a particularly disagree with what's happened about homosexuals in russia i think that's quite appalling but you know he is a strong man he runs the country you must be respected and russia is a strong nation which we must respect and there are big players in the world stage we can't go around fighting with them and the european union simply don't

understand that their empire buildings go out of control and it's caused merely a very very serious situation as amateurs getting involved things they do nothing about it now cameron's threaten more sanctions against russia over the whole here crane in crisis and they share the country will go along with that i mean especially taking into consideration how much russian money they're raised in that states and british economy as of today. i think it's a nonsense oldest took for tat sanctions against russia russia is a sovereign nation and we can't do business with russia if we if we treat it like that some sort of pariah we simply can't do the sort of thing we have to respect russia's integrity we have to respect from tears and zones of influence i think this is not the way to go about things of russia people should talk quietly in the corridors of power we should not be having a shouting match with megaphones this is absolutely not the way to do things now here he was later recalled to strip rosell of partnership with ukraine

a massive predication he said this demonstrates danger of foreign policy what do you think maybe joining the could now help ukraine. no i don't think so i don't think your opinion has got the money to do with it who's going to pay for this is going to be the german the british taxpayer well i'm afraid we just don't have the money to stop propping up the ukraine we have enough troubles in our own economy that was the comment thinks he can prop up the ukraine and he's crazy quite frankly we should not be getting involved in this we don't have the money to deal with it and we don't have the ability to deal with it and we should not be interfering and the russians russians the russians of influence it's a very bad thing thank you so much for this interesting interview we're talking to david carr burns member of the european parliament for scotland we're talking about whether you should stay within the european union are not that's it for this edition of said think oh we'll see you next time.

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