with a shot to win one more like the knicks i don't think i wouldn't put it past him going in search of another one thousand nine hundred eighty six and i believe personally that's going to get done in new york all next on larry king now. going to larry king now joining us i do producer retired n.b.a. star redfox bricked is a three time n.b.a. champion with the los angeles lakers took home titles in two thousand and two thousand and one and two thousand and two he's also acted in television shows i was in films like holds his most recent project the film off season and the lengths morrison story is available for rent online and that video dot com we'll talk about that lots of other things let's get right to things current is good have a good final his spurs heat i think so

a rematch is always always exciting i work the finals last year and i all all the way up and to the point it really hit the shot as i was ready to go down and watch the spurs celebrate i think a dynasty completed with tim duncan and tony parker manager nobley i'd gone from complete hatred of them in competing competing against them to admiration and was actually rooting for them in that series if i admitted it. and alan didn't known travel. if he got off the n.b.a. if traveling wasn't what is travelling your orders if it wasn't for given so often i guess you could say he might of there's something about two finals that are incredible probably because they're indoor winners a stanley cup an n.b.a. . the crowds of foley it's pressure every second what's it like to play in a seven game series when i can think of two two seven game series in particular one

against supporting trailblazers in our first run in two thousand and two a championship we were down by fifteen points at all i dug ourselves out of that hole to go on to the n.b.a. finals when our first championship that was i didn't sleep that night i had a baby a few weeks earlier and it was my my my first daughter but yeah the match of the two the exhilaration things id the stress i think i lost maybe like ten pounds in a week just from from that stress and then the other one was cycling a king series in western converse or is that one one for the ages and the same same thing you know you get a living the only only solitude you have is when you hit the floor. the hours between forty and you know hours in between games is a nightmare because you just you can win a comparison to hockey playing every other night without king is series with the galaxy i was unbelievable i just got into it actually you know once you get it would you can't turn it right phil jackson turned me on to it we spent the last few

weeks you know discussing his new journey in new york with the knicks and we watched it we watched the hockey game and you know born in canada so you think i would have some hockey background but i didn't really i never really got into it like they can they do it again. i respect the heat i don't think they're the same team and no team is from year to year but. i like i like that le bron james has risen to a level where where he understands how to will his teams to victory i just think there's something about the spurs team the depth. the return would say revenge but the opportunity a second chance to redeem themselves really they're helping parker though they do they do need a healthy parker or they need at least like he gave them the other night nineteen solid minutes even if it's not tony parker like minutes that we've grown accustomed to seeing they still need about their they can't well think they can win without

him it's hard to compare errors this era to better is the brawn the best ever if we track it we aligned his career so far up with the other greats of the game up and to this point i would say yes. i think there's still some long job but it has to show up for him to take that that mantle and be the king of not just in name but the king of all time his greatest player he z's deftly track in that way for sure how would you defend him i got a chance to actually didn't wasn't i don't know how successful i was at it if i recall but he how would i defend him amen i'd try to match my my willingness to be physical with him but that doesn't seem to you know if you're with him at this stage of his game when he was younger it did he doesn't mind being touched and bumped and and have shots i guess i'd try to deny him the ball but i mean who's

who's been successful that he's going to go get off the roof off the boards and take the full length of the court itself and there's overall picture of greatness where do you put koby. you know i'm biased you know i have three rings due to kobe's greatness and she kills greatness and what we did together but i had him i really had him on track until his injury so passing with a heated minute or not chasing karim's record i think he has you know five championships i still saw one more somewhere in there i thought the lakers would find a way to you know a really low quickly which of the storage we dug and if he ended up with six rings and done all the things individually he was on track to do and played twenty years the longevity in the consistency of of play i didn't i didn't see that match by anyone other than kareem so and to do it as it as a two guard you know was was even more impressive to me not being

a big man so where is that now unfortunately is the interests letterman slot of him probably in the top ten. you know he kobe is very bright you know yeah sure you know i don't think a lot of people know that do you think at the end of a career he might go to another team with a shot to win one more i wouldn't i wouldn't say i would not put it past like the knicks like the knicks i. you know a lot of that if you really of. i think we're still in new york right now. and i think. finishing his career in the next two three years here in l.a. if there's not a real opportunity for him to to win a championship here the thought of him leaving may shock laker fans i don't think i wouldn't put it past him going in search of another one or two championships and i believe personally that's going to get done in new york you know i really do and i and i don't i just believe in phil i've been around him and i know that kobe's had

his greatest success. with phil in a leadership capacity so reuniting of the two i don't think is on realistic thought but what about phil jackson i've known him for some time and not intimately what is so special about him. boy. what a he's. he's connected spiritually so i threw i think something great in the game he's been on that journey for years for himself so i think he has a. a balance there in his life that's a foundation that i think a lot of us are still searching for maybe i know myself i'm still searching for i had a journey was you know with him as a player that set me closer to an understanding of what worked for me so i think there's a there's a silence there for him that makes it easy for him to connect to

a collective group consciousness and then steer it steer it in a way that leads in the case of n.b.a. players group of men that make millions of dollars it's not hard to play for. no not for me i would add a willingness to turn myself over to whatever direction he steered the ship i've just been that type of person in my life when it comes to to you know feeling fortunate enough to be on the right team and i just know when they directed my can be directed well what's so special about the triangle. equal opportunity a. there's a flow to it it's a dance to it that incorporates everyone unlike some of the some of the teams i watch now in the game to just a lot of still individual attack which i don't think is the optimal approach to winning basketball games but the triangle just creates a temple and a rhythm creates unity creates the opportunity we're all parties or field involved

and therefore you you're not easily predicted how do you assess the whole clippers story. you know a lot was a lot to digest in the midst of the playoffs i didn't know donald sterling personally although i know a lot of his personal health issues come into play. and i don't judge people i didn't i would argue long i don't feel. i feel sorry for the situation i feel really disappointed that that all involved. have had to experience such such a untasteful can racism exist in a black oriented league man oh it can exist it exists did you see it when you played i think if the street flows in all directions i don't think the but that i think is our current state we strive to improve.

daily i think as a society but we regressed some days and his move forward at all i don't i'm not delusional off to think that it's not still in society but has to be buried so you couldn't be a racist coach in the n.b.a. q could you calm would you communicate with. i think those are the guys sometimes that that don't succeed it's not that they don't succeed because they're racist but i think you have to care about your players and if you have if you have that your core sound belief of dislike for ethnicity or the individual because of their background that's going to be a disconnect you won't win you won't win and so therefore you have those you have those moments and i think professional sports in general not just the n.b.a. it lives there it just lives there we recently did a hell of a panel show on the n.f.l. xnu ruling on the n.

word when you make it that you think you can work i hope it works i hope it works. can it work will it work. i think communication is non-verbal huge chunk of it is nonverbal i think if you if your belief of of of someone is to that level you don't even have to say the word is going to reach it's going to read but that's a good start. like the gays and sports we have now in the n.f.l. or in the n.b.a. think that's coming and they think it will be sept i think it's been here except and some of it it will will grow with time. jerry jerry jason collins and i think michael sam michael sam recently in football brave men for stepping out and that being a voice and standing for their own first standing for themselves and being role models for other gay men and women who who are in the workplace that want to be

expressed so the acceptance now and the growth comes from their teammates and the rest of the league he says always been here you know gay players i didn't know gay players i just know as i have as i have evolved and as an actor and being around being around hollywood and working with gay men and women the understanding of of just the community itself gave me insight into how difficult it's been for gay and men and women to live and how covered they've lived for so many years and so i just i just i just look at and i think it has been asked of been gay men and women just haven't felt safe enough to express themselves in a more come open do you think it's going to be accepted readily and then be a locker rooms i think you have to demand it. i think you have to just demand equality in general you have to be a great player no calls no no we get to be a great player the separation of your skill. job versus you

know your personal life those it's hard for those not to cross it's hard for me to be a teammate and not interact with a fellow teammate and not know something personally about about them i just think that. that the message probably reach which is the bass is. greater if it is a like with martina navratilova had come out when she was in the midst of her playing. it takes a great player i think to to galvanize the masses after the break we'll hear about ranch newest film all season no and tomorrow some story don't close the. america and join me. for things that impartial and financial reporting carry on for

news and much much. only on going bust and. i'm. not i'm big corporation mind. you i'm frank. about mine and i'm the family that for the public's right. to lead. by. my guess is rick fox his newest project is off season the election marson story available for rent online at the meo dot com this is this as the only place is going to be available without is there such a person as lex marson or is this

a fictional story he's a fictional so it's a fictional story but he's made up of about eight different characters throughout my career oh really i played with and. actually go and alter ego i was pretty pretty well based it's you with me if i without the raids without the training wheels off if i let myself go let's see a clip from lex marson story off season watch you hundred times this summer do you really think that you will exercise its option for another three years that's enough no more questions i guess but you've got some us thirty games this season due to injury your point production is down what do you expect i'm surrounded by rookies on and off the court one of my off the court antics do you feel the distracting let's don't answer that i do off the court is my business and do you really think that your age you can combine aviation by age old hell is this talk about my contributing retired goalie top five guys what to get acting. i guess natural good looking tall l.a.

and then into the i got into it i went to school for radio television a motion picture so i always had a desire to be in the field of of entertainment but it took it took the movie eddie with will be goldberg in the off season a lockout season that that was a celtics story though it was a mixed news that i had to celtic the next i was a next door atlantic player and i spent two months with will be will be goldberg richard jenkins and his friend of the late as for you know great great cast other actors like mark jackson actors other players like mark jackson john salley who has acted. the late belleek sealy who passed away in two ancients who passed away we all spent two months down the shoot this movie and i got to talk to crew and directors and actors and really those three people would be richard jenkins and dennis farina are worth three i spoke to the most and i fell in love with it and i knew that others are like about it group dynamic storytelling. playing

a role same things i get from being a part of great basketball teams but also just to self discovery the journey of bringing parts of myself to characters i got to learn more about myself i've got to get outside of myself. and be a little more extroverted instead introverted is alexa commit a comedy yeah. let's morris in the off season stories a comedy our character is think of the most extensive functional guy. but the best player in the league only is the best he's the best player in the league but he's never won he's as dysfunctional as it gets once the season is over so keeping him under wraps between june when he doesn't make the job as it is in which i was it from april to when he has to get back to training camp is like wrangling a while a lot of it all seems very few most of it is all said and most of it is in the offseason. but they got to get him into shape and when i say they the p.r.

director and the trainer are assigned to him they come and live in his house the lakers the knights the nellie knights so the team does live in l.a. and he he looks at his off season as a cation and he is not about work it out he's not about anything other than finding the fun in these two young men the trainer and a p.r. director have to get him to do this i remember you acted while playing with the lakers and then i did and that was a you know that was an opportunity continue to get my foot in the door and get experience in the off season so that when i was done playing i'd actually have. you know some experience and i'd have some understanding of what would be expected of me on set i grew and took acting classes and took lessons in the off season but i got was fortunate to work a lot between seasons the toughest part about leverage is that athletes careers end when most careers begin yeah that when the cheering stops you'll never be as

famous as you were when you were playing does the n.b.a. do enough to help people afterwards. they've gotten better. i think they do a great job of educating the athlete from day one in providing the programs as they go along in their career to prepare them for life after sports we have approved we have a retirement association what i would like to see is more more require more of those programs being required as they're playing. definitely on for that and post career i think that can step up. to another level i think there are definite needs to be in place especially within the first two three years first two years if we're going to say you know budgetary was the first two years have passed it's a critical time for athletes because all of that is said to the point they're dealing with in

a lot of cases ninety three percent of them get divorced they're dealing with now for the first time scheduling their lives twenty four seven where you know we're pretty structured exactly it's day to day our our game is we're told where to go where to be for eleven months out of the year and so having to fit our time with constructive. you know things to do is difficult for most athletes and then being at home in the family twenty four seven is a new thing. and and then that quiet sitting in quiet you know twenty thousand people in arenas and even loud jet engines that this stimulation goes from you know high levels to very very small amounts and is it hard to watch after you've played i didn't i didn't watch for the first year didn't go to game until the one of the last games my second here. i got away i really did it was it was it had that on the on the on i had lost in the n.b.a.

finals so it was hard to want to still be around but physically you know getting my body back to a place where i felt healthy you dating a fellow actor plus additional any plans to marry. we were. well you know i've been married ones in off season which yeah she's an off season she's not a she's not necessarily high on marriage. it isn't no she's she's not racing she's not a bride zilla which is which is fine you know it's i mean i only have i have to have a son that's nineteen from freshman l. of you and daughter that's fourteen little school i close with them yeah yeah my son actually is is really close too close i think he'd like some space from that but. my daughter and i actually said at fourteen out she's into boys i consider it a success that she still talks to me about about them that's good yeah so i really

i really stay close i'm sure you're a father father yeah yeah try to be other don't i hope they'd say that they have some social media questions or it joshua jay thirteen on twitter they called you sweet feed in the film holes what do they call you in the lego locker room foxy but that was that was chick her chick her call the foxy and everyone went with it and bobby blaze seventy four via twitter wants to know was odd a tough show to work on ours. it no because it was tom fontana it's some of the great actors that you see working the day on other t.v. shows i was there and foundation of the original eight episodes that went off and. you know was in it for a number of years it was great it was great and it caved kase nine to eight on twitter how did you meet jake and amir from college humor that was my son my son was a huge college you were a fan of jake in a mare and he said you know and being

a dad i wanted to know what he was into i found out who they were and i went and did some videos with them and now we're actually hopefully going to get a t.v. series off the ground ed helms as executive producer and we'll see if we can get migrate over t.b.s. to make it kane dawson on facebook what do you think your best basketball skill was . selflessness and a willingness to turn myself over to the team concept the defense you know was was a defensive. you know basketball i.q. guy so in the last minute you want to take the best player yeah oh i want to avoid eight minutes i want you you had i had to have the best it was a badge of honor for me to take on regardless of who that player was sometimes feel what you had died asked for tim duncan sometimes and it's like no of that i sometimes get a few you know that i've ever read a blog or shot them score rather steal the ball was

a big shot blocker but rather steal the ball now little game of if you only knew ok my mother first girl you kissed yes this year thius theists yeah those are the way where is the baba symbol of places really how is school i was in the fifth grade so that would be and slate by today's standards you haven't know what how to get a girl pregnant because i grew up in the church so they scared me they scare me did you ever know what happened to her adult hosier first car buick skylark was your first job i worked for my dad it i suspect or his business of this person you know how to defend charles barkley. the muscle man he was pretty rough he was wide but he was also athletic was he also was he did he jab a lot was he did he torrent and he talked a lot he talked a lot but in a jovial way he had fun. you never you never felt threatened by his trash talk

favored arena play and besides staples. i got to boston garden and great western for a city with the most brutal fans. boston. because they're great. when you're winning but when you're losing five stitches here my face it stitches over here people threw things at me you does a tough place a place it's all stuff you never stop yelling right right but that's different throwing. stuff but it's not basketball what sport football tight is dream costar. someone that's too tall female tall i just saw all these there are and she's she's great so let's see the western movie did so it wasn't funny it had thought that i thought the strength of it was the relationship between the two of them i laughed i laughed at times prada sports moment. probably sports moment.

probably but sadly ships earned an easy one for me because it's what i pursued by being drafted rugby all around it or north carolina actually making it from the bottle island in the bahamas all the way to indiana and then to north carolina and then be drafted by red our back was pretty what keeps you up at night my kids. i think you're most in my or outside of bastable outside. i like. like federer for a long time i still do and i was out and the last of the day most under-rated and be a player. most under-rated i think charles barkley for years is a bit on the ready still and he still gets a lot of attention in the hall of fame but in all i think he's a superstar of the keys as well as your pre-game ritual well i had. had to have

three advil it's always a little always at its root sticks of a bubble this is good because it kept my mouth from cotton and helping get dry well those those those two things i had to do thank you rick always good seeing your mother with a big thanks to my guests were thoughts make sure the gadgets newest film all season the likes mars and story it's available to rent online video dot com as always you can find me on twitter at kings things we'll see you next time. a. very hard to take. on.

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