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to have you with us here on t.v. today i'm wrong researcher. oh welcome to sophie and komi sophie shevardnadze the united kingdom independence party has shocked the british establishment coming first in the here of parliament elections good news for those who want to see the u.k. live the new well the length of found a part isn't thrilled and is launching
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a new turn a day of dr alan scale at their original hero skeptic a historian turned politician and he is my guest today. european swing to the right is troubling brussels regions maverick you keep is gaining points a total all as another euro skeptic blog is propping up on the horizon this time on the left side of the political mainstream. do they have better answers when will the u.k. see the end of us territory is a british exit from the e.u. a real possibility. dr alan skat founder of the new daily party here a skeptic politicians scholar it's great to have you on our show today welcome now i'm just go going to go ahead and start here the one who found it you kazan to benton's part. you're also its biggest critic nowadays because you left it but they say are at their rates their highest success yet twenty four members say it's in the e.u. parliament that people have voted for it are those people to be criticized as well
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no i think the people vote for me that it's a protest vote to be interested in the european parliament. be in dozens of you keep m.e.p. since going back to nine hundred ninety nine they didn't do anything constructive the just go to take the money the expenses pensions. the. just claim these taken over two million pounds in expenses although we have a few dozen key meetings he avoids key debates as did most of the others to piece have been put in jail for fraud. really a very sad reflection of protest politics the the not very bright people vote them in breach of. the european union and its institutions are so you're saying it's their per test vote but what about about that i mean all it comes down to is that
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people want some change now. but the to kill it and you politics and the policies. behave in the hollywood i mean they don't make a case for british. exit you would really just a bunch of people getting as much money and expenses that as it could possibly get . the representable. of. the electorate to five percent so that's about nine percent of the electorate as a whole makes no difference to what happens in that you feed parliament where there's an overwhelming. majority or federalists who treat them with contempt which they deserve and if they say they don't believe in the european politics or european institutions that we shouldn't be there but yet. because they want to make
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money over the will my view now i see you're still. kind of against a are a pair problem and but and back when you were founding the you keep you also refused to send members to the european parliament because you didn't want to legitimize but now the euro skeptics from all over the continent are there so has your opinion changed. and made no difference because in a small minority the. liberals the christian democrats have an overwhelming federalist majority inside the paula would a lot of your skeptic group that was voted in this. is a right wing people who is islamophobia the. who don't really attract intelligent discussion or the not really the kind of people that you want to be associated with you wouldn't want joe big from hungary
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or new dawn from greece even from the us and france to be represented to cause any sort of decent rational person was associated with some like great fear is ukip associated with all sorts of people and by their own contemptible behavior merely bringing the euro skeptic pools in britain and europe into disrepute and that's important because we may have a referendum here in a couple of years or britain remaining in the coming out of the european union and the danger is. the extreme views not of ukip and its allies will undermine. the cause of britain coming up and i'm worried about now your current new deal party aims to pressure the left into your skepticism while you keep does the same thing from the right so he seems like you do need them despite loading them. oh i mean i understand i thought i mean i set up the party
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originally to put pressure on the conservatives who than pot in order to move in a euro skeptic direction and indeed the conservatives have done that and they still will probably split over the question of. david cameron may lose the election loosies prime ministership of europe the party i saw was supposed to be a mainstream rational decent democratic party appealing to the whole breadth of the british electorate all classes all races all religions and one looks an opinion polls of british people and their views of coming out of the e.u. up until about four years ago there was a majority about fifty five percent who said they were in favor of coming. through all the bad publicity the tragedy you could have attracted to the races
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a new street was views that majority is. minority of about forty foot seven forty eight percent said my fear is that instead of there's still putting pressure on the tories by. creating such a still it might be that in a very narrow for referendum they'll be so toxic the. sex of the population will vote to stay in rather than support you can hear about well that's why the new deal is necessary i know but whatever the reason if they would cameron has promised a referendum on british accent what do you expect from that kid gets better happen and do you think it will ever take place. i think there will be a referendum in the next two three years for one thing it's quite possible that the federalists inside the european commission and the federalists inside the pollard would. want to push further towards the goal of ever closer
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union in which case a new treaty would be required and of a new treaty is due to have to be a referendum and to be very difficult. to meet that and in a referendum given political conditions in britain as cameron's own pledge of a referendum will that's entirely dependent on david cameron winning the next general election that doesn't look too like the present i'd put my money on labor just. but he might win if he wins and doesn't have a majority it's not clear he could referenda bill through. but what are your thoughts why would he make this promise in a first place i mean did he always had and become a genuine euro skeptic or is it really all for the votes. oh no no no david cameron has no principles. if you examine these record in speeches and what he's written over the course of his political career opportunistic and
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contradictory. he just exudes should be to be decisive no he just likes it he's not there because he has an ideology because he is a place a set of principles he's there because he wants business. so he's opportunistic and because the fish is inside the conservative party bardsley in the do calls well i will do the rise of ukip that he made promises which he thought would start a full debate about the tory party. and remember you can put he got to that place but it you're put it got to that situation because the lib dems went into coalition and then though you could have no policies and the became the default party of protests which the lib dems used to be. but about that referendum just
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a little bit more apathetically speaking how big of a blow what a british accent be for i think your opinion was it would be a huge blow. it would be revolutionary and i don't think britain would be the only country to come i think would be followed by others this sumption sometimes made that if britain were to come it would be britain against the rest of the european union but the no way of knowing how much of the european union would remain i mean i think it would fall as soon afterwards there would then be an unraveling and you know you would you would melt but it could be fluid all sorts of possible alternative you could arise but are you sure that if britain length of stay. you nobody will fill the consequences in their wallets i mean are you not fazed by the warnings of economic turmoil i'm talking inside britain of course no i do think it
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made much difference we just truly do truly mean the germans do wouldn't want to stop selling those calls and washing machines the french would still want to sell those while you need to use and whatever else this. they still twice is not straws as we still today. if they wanted to trade war really seeing which wouldn't be in their interests they would suffer twice as much but quite frankly i mean i think the whole thing could be sorted smoothly and we could have and we could all do fools. would make much difference when you make it sound so easy well i'll just out there we're going to take a break now well we're back with dr alan scott scholar here a skeptic politician a founder of you and now a new deal party after a short break stay tuned with us. on
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the scramble to save iraq as the baghdad government loses control over much of the country is calling for changes in the regime all along the region's borders are said to be redrawn. and we're back with dr alan scott here a skeptic politician historian good to have you back now i've heard you criticize e.u. right so if that you are so on democratic bureaucratic and corrupt as you say it is why do you think most europeans will still have a favorable view of it and they don't really want you to go anywhere. but the fact
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is most europeans don't understand how the european union works the like the idea of being european in some sense that means that the civil law is westernized and have enlightened. but. you know if you said is there any great need for the e.u. can you justify. this going to vague things but isn't it nice to be friends with paul from in doesn't have any diplomatic influence of the world it doesn't have a democracy in it it's that you wanted democratic. very clear you know what to does and why it should be there why we need it you don't think it has a problematic power in the world for example cameron says that if in u.k. we leave it will lose political clout on the continent are you all right with that you certainly wouldn't be making. a decision making.
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mean you don't need to engage didn't political decision making in the e.u. if you do want to be in the e.u. should you worry about being engaged in its political decision making i'm not talking i. am not talking about decision making i mean i'm talking about european diplomacy as a whole that makes difference on a global scale but there isn't but there isn't any european diplomacy as a whole and when that soul supposed to be concentrated in the under the strange figure. who's never been elected to anything in a life come speak french and you know it was a kind of joke when she first got the job as a kind of compensation to britain because they wouldn't give it to. i mean i did say well i mean europe doesn't really have much influence in the world we have no defense budgets we have no the british army and forces have been nothing the french of a few troops with come do very much when they went to when we wanted to be didn't libya
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britain and france to be utterly dependent on the americans but did you. feel like to feel like they hear a piano leaders are in you in general is utterly depending on american foreign policy or do you think europe can make its own decisions independently doesn't make any decisions. and fools anything i mean it doesn't really matter what european views on any of what they're going to do a budget this red is saying the european union's don't listen to them should they raney and we could we do mean if if the european union got very upset what can you do about ukraine for example do anything to do. blunders i mean the germans and others recognize. as independent countries also in one thousand nine hundred started off the wall i mean this record that international
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diplomats. it talks about but in fact it doesn't really have a record it gives money in foreign aid. that's just taken usually by corrupt dictators and in the world now i guess i mean i can really see. i don't see what it does i mean i don't see why we need it i've got no idea what it's supposed to be doing it's a ramshackle wannabe superpower the hasn't got any whose economy is in relative economic decline its growth rate it's about one percent it's all going and. the percentage of world g.d.p. it represents is. and it's going to get. it's many calling me germany has a population crisis over the next few decades the german population will decline by about twenty billion they'll be as many old age pensioners and workers in the economy will sing like a stone. i mean it's future is bleak economic for the. i just don't
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see why people get excited about it. i want to get back to whatever it problems i used to have a current version of you keep this anti immigrant while your new party supports the theory people so do understand that you regard to european immigrants you don't regard to european immigrants as threat i mean for example they share of european immigrants allegedly competing for the jobs of the british citizens is that not a problem i mean if you live in london immigration is actually. keeping on the. of transport infrastructure in terms of people working in supermarkets and in terms of postal services the of the national health service the national service couldn't survive without guns and is and its people you know who are dependent on public transport public hells of public postal services who come
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to do these things privately the dependent on the immigrants who actually work in them but. seems to get mentioned in all the evidence is the. immigrants in britain contribute positively to the public. the very very much less likely than the british nationals themselves to. benefit. even in its politically is in london the educational standards in london schools of going up because of the presence of immigrant families and another pos the country is clear that for the immigrants there are more jobs and more job opportunities and in areas of the country which have new immigrants but in which the fear of immigration is at its height there are fewer jobs and fewer opportunities for natives tell me what about the islamification on the country and the threat of
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radicalism and do you not regard that as a concern it is a growing problem throughout the year and. that's perfectly true. to him the government belatedly is taking steps. but. because you are in favor of immigration for be a doesn't mean you are in favor of jihad these taking over the culture the. wild one could argue you know one could find a link. between the free flow of immigrants and growing muslim population in london and here up but as far as. most most yes most of these people are british the born in britain they have british passports and the immigrants there may have been is in a two by british policy in the middle east and they have been. the brother to riches society i don't know but they're here they're born here most of them the
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people who did the bombings and seven seven born here. in the yukon say that stopping immigration will stop this what you have to do is make sure the educate. it's see. it's so direct to the muslim children but your schools the top liberal secular values. there's a case to stop you face schools altogether one thing for example david pm urged them to but it's not legal but the sounds of the country needs to be far more mass killer in promoting british values what do you think do you believe immigrants have to be here doesn't in any way of life would depends what you mean by british values and when david cameron finds it difficult to define but we ask him when he just says things like taller and play. i think those things are quite universal values i don't know of what are british values for example maybe. not having sharia courts
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in your own country which are essentially a parallel set of laws where you think. well i agree that there's no british well you have you should be cool but david cameron's government and the eagle system is of the agree to them. and the government is making arrangements with. sharia loans or will finance mortgages in such it could be given to muslim citizens in a way that codes was sure you printers i want out about another hot topic which is to scottish referendum what do you predict for it do you think scotland will go it alone. well i'm scottish yourself and have a home in the scottish highlands. one of the problems of scotland and this is related to the e.u. . i wrote an article about this the sunday times and i press this point but it
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doesn't really get anywhere but it's a very vital one that is the true case against the scottish nationalists the independence lobby and the. they're all fake and we alex salmond isn't promising independence all these doing is promising that scotland would become a separate province of the european union scots would even possible european union possible scottish law would remain subordinate to you p n law scottish agricultural prices for scottish farmers will be decided in brussels scottish fish quotas for scottish fishermen would be decided in brussels scottish social policy the every policy. soon foreign and defense policy and probably energy policy including the declining resources of school to show would all be controlled by brussels. offering a deal whereby scotland would become like greece or portugal
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you know become a minor. economy inside the european union and would have its budget if it were into the euro zone which will probably have to have its budget controlled by commissioners in brussels and by germans say he's making. small province of will the greeks already see its greater germany and he's calling this independence it's a farce but cameron and miliband and clegg can't say this because the restrictions that would remain on scotland inside the e.u. of course they support as restrictions on england and the rest of the united kingdom say we can't have. the proper debate and dependence because the fact that scottish independence won't exist the skeleton will just become a tiny province of the e.u. was about seven m. e p's in the european parliament as opposed to fifty six m.p.'s in the british while all of this can be mentioned because you come to the e.u.
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if you're in one of the big cities but just a yes or no question do you think the scots will vote yes or no. this story tony just law i think. all right al i have to go blue because. i'm sorry that's all the time we got left thank you so much i'm sorry we had to interrupt the conversation but i'm sure we're going to get a chance to talk to you more in the future maybe in september after the referendum thanks a lot for this interesting insight we're talking to dr allan scat scholar politician original founder of the united kingdom independence party and now the new deal party we're talking about why you can't make so little difference in a european problem and also why the united kingdom should leave you that's it for this edition of soaping call i'll see you next time. if you think you.
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