faces changing the world lights now. old pictures of today's events. on demand from around the globe. up to. fifty. oh welcome to sophie and komi sophie shevardnadze the united kingdom independence party has shocked the british establishment coming first in the here of parliament elections good news for those who want to see the u.k. live the new well the length of founder the party isn't thrilled and is launching a new turn a day of dr alan scare at their original hero skeptic a historian turned politician and he's my guest today. a european swing to

the right is troubling brussels regions maverick you keep is gaining points a total all as another euro skeptic blog is propping up on the horizon this time on the left side of the political mainstream. do they have better answers when will the u.k. see the end of us territory is a british exit from the e.u. a real possibility. dr alan scat founder of the new deal party here a skeptic politicians scholar it's great to have you on our show today welcome now i'm just go going to go ahead and start here the one who found it ukase into benton's party you're also its biggest critic now a days because you left it but this year they're of their highest success yet twenty four members say it's in the e.u. parliament that people have voted for it are those people to be criticized as well no i think the people who vote for me that its approach has to be addressed in the

european parliament the dozens of you keep m.e.p. sins going back to nine hundred ninety nine they didn't do anything constructive the just go to take the money the expenses pensions. the leader of this claim these taking over two million pounds in expenses although he hardly ever turns up doesn't go to key meetings he avoids key debates as did most of the others to peace have been put in jail for fraud. really a very sad reflection of protest politics the the not very bright people vote them in breach of. the european union and its institutions are so you're saying it's a purchase vote but what somebody about that i mean all it comes down to is that people want change now. but the don't articulate any politics any policies.

the behavior of the hollywood i mean they don't make a case for british. exit it. would really just a bunch of not very bright people getting as much money and expenses as the as they could possibly get. the represent of. the son of the electorate five percent so that's about nine percent of the electorate as a whole makes no difference to what happens in that you feed parliament where there's an overwhelming majority or federalists who treat them with contempt which they deserve and if they say they don't believe in the european politics and european institutions that we shouldn't be there but yet. because they want to make money over the will my view now i see you're still. kind of against your

apparent problem and but and back when you were founding the u.k.p. also refused to send members to the european parliament because he didn't want to legitimize but now the euro skeptics from all over the continent are there so has your opinion changed. yes i. make no difference because in a small minority the. liberals the christian democrats have an overwhelming federalist majority inside the paula would a lot of your skeptic group that was voted in this. bizarre right wing people who is islamophobia be. who don't really attract intelligent discussion or they're not really the kind of people that you want to be associated with you wouldn't want joe big from hungary or new dawn from greece even. france to be represented to

a cause that any sort of decent rational person was associated with so my great fear is ukip associated with all sorts of people and by their own contemptible behavior merely bringing the euro skeptic pools in britain and europe into disrepute and that's important because we may have a referendum here in a couple of years on britain remaining in the coming out of the european union and the danger is. that the extreme views not of ukip and its allies will undermine. the cause of britain coming out and i'm worried about that now your current new deal party aims to pressure the left into your skepticism while you keep just the same thing from the right so it seems like you do need them despite loading them. oh i mean i understand i thought i mean i set up the

party originally to put pressure on the conservatives who than pot in order to move in the euro skeptic direction and indeed the conservatives have done that and they still will probably split over the question of. david cameron may lose the election lucy's prime ministership of europe the party i saw was supposed to be a mainstream rational decent democratic party appealing to the whole breadth of the british electorate all classes all races all religions and one luke said opinion polls of british people and their views of coming out of the e.u. up until about four years ago there was a majority about fifty five percent who said they were in favor of coming. through all the bad publicity the new kids have attracted to the race is an extremist views that majority is. minority of about forty foot seven forty eight percent say my

fear is that instead of the still putting pressure on the tories by. creating such a still it might be that in a very narrow for referendum they'll be so toxic the. sex of the population will vote to stay in rather than support you can yeah well that's why duty it is necessary i know but whatever the reason if david cameron has promised a referendum on credit checks it what do you expect from that kid gets better happening do you think it will ever take place. i think there will be a referendum in the next two three years for one thing it's quite possible that the federalists inside the european commission and the federalists inside the pollard would. want to push further towards the goal of ever closer union in which case a new treaty would be required and of a new treaty is

a quadruped have to be a referendum and to be very difficult. to make that and in a referendum given political conditions in britain as cameron's own pledge of a referendum will that's entirely dependent on david cameron winning the next general election that doesn't look too like the present i'd put my money on labor just. but he might win if he wins and doesn't have a majority it's not clear he could referenda bill through. but what are your thoughts why would he make this promise and at first place i mean did he always at him become a genuine euro skeptic or is it really all for the votes. oh no no no david cameron has no principles. if you examine these record speeches and what he's written over the course of his political career opportunistic and contradictory. he

just exudes should be to be decisive no he just likes it he's not there because he has an ideology because he is of prepared a set of principles he's there because he wants a business. so he's opportunistic and because the fish is inside the conservative party largely in the do calls well i will the rise of ukip then he made promises which he thought would start a full debate to inside the tory party. and remember you can put he got to that it's a bit you're going to go up to that situation because the lib dems were into a coalition and then though you could put new policies is the became the default party of protests which the lib dems used to be up but about that referendum just a little bit more happy that it was speaking how big of a blow what a british accent be for i think your opinion. well i think would be

a huge blow. it would be revolutionary and i didn't sing britain would be the only country the thing would be followed by all those this sumption sometimes made that if britain would come it would be britain against the rest of the european union but the no way of knowing how much of the european union would remain i mean i think it would fold as soon off there would be an unraveling and you know you would who would melt but it could be fluid all sorts of possible alternative you could all use but are you sure that if britain staying you nobody will fill the consequences in their wallets i mean are you not fazed by the warnings of economic turmoil i'm talking inside britain of course no i do think it made much difference we just trading. in the germans wouldn't want to stop selling

us because in washing machines the french would still want to sell as well and cheese and whatever else this. they sell twice as much straws as we sell to. if they wanted to trade will already seeing which wouldn't be in their interests they would suffer twice as much but quite frankly i mean i think the whole thing could be sorted smoothly if we could have an amicable divorce. would make much difference when you make it sound so easy well i'll just out there we're going to take a break now well we're back with dr alan scott scholar here a skeptic politician a founder and now a new deal party after a short break stay tuned with us. hello

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now we're back with dr alan scott here a skeptic politician historian good to have you back now i've heard you criticize you write so if that you are so on democratic bureaucratic and corrupt as you say it is why do you think most europeans will still have a favorable view of it and they don't really want you to go anywhere. but the fact is that most europeans don't understand how the european union works the like the idea of be european in some sense that means that the civil law is westernized and have enlightened values. but. you know if you said is there any great need for the how can you justify. this going to vague things but isn't it nice to be friends with paul from in doesn't have any diplomatic influence in the world it doesn't have a democracy in it it's the democratic. very clear you know what it

does and why it should be there why we need it you don't think it has a problematic power in the world for example cameron says that if the new k. we leave it will list political clout on the continent are you alright with that and you certainly wouldn't be making a nice thing about our decision making. i mean you don't need engaged in political decision making in the e.u. if you do want to be in the e.u. should you worry about being engaged in its political decision making i'm not talking about i. am not talking about decisionmaking i mean i'm talking about european diplomacy as a whole that makes difference on a global scale but there isn't but there isn't any european diplomacy as a whole i mean it's all supposed to be concentrated in the under the strange figure . who's never been elected to anything in

a life come speak french and you know it was a kind of joke when she first got the job as a kind of compensation to britain because they wouldn't give it to. i mean i did say well i mean europe doesn't really have much influence in the world we have no defense budgets we have no the british army and forces have been nothing the french of a few troops but they come do very much when they went to when we wanted to take the lead in libya britain and france to be utterly dependent on the americans but did you. feel like to feel like they hear a piano leaders are in you in general is utterly depending on american foreign policy or do you think europe can make its own decisions independently doesn't make any decision. and force anything i mean it doesn't really matter what european views on any of what they're going to do this really is saying the european union's don't listen to them should they rainy and we could we do mean if the european

union got very upset what can you do about ukraine for example do anything to do. blunders i mean the germans and others recognize. as independent countries also in one thousand nine hundred started off the wall i mean this record that international diplomats. it talks about soft but in fact it doesn't really have a record it gets money in foreign aid but. that's just taken usually by corrupt dictators and in the world now i guess i mean i can really see. i did see what it does i mean i don't see why we need it i've got no idea what it's supposed to be doing it's a ramshackle wannabe superpower hasn't got any whose economy is in relative economic decline its growth rates about one percent it's all going and. the

percentage of world g.d.p. it represents is. and it's going to get. as many column b. germany has a population crisis over the next few decades the german population will decline by about twenty billion they'll be as many old age pensioners and workers and the economy will sing like a stone. i mean it's true it's bleak economic the. i just don't see why people get excited about it. i want to get back to whatever it problems i used to have a current version of ukip is anti immigrant while your new party support certainly people do understand that you regard european immigrants you don't regard to european immigrants as threat i mean for example the issue of european immigrants allegedly competing for the jobs of the british citizens is that not a problem i mean if you live in london immigration is actually.

keeping london of transport infrastructure in terms of people working in supermarkets and in terms of postal services the of the national health service the national service couldn't survive with guns. and it's people you know who are dependent on public transport public hells of public services who come to do these things privately the you know are dependent on the immigrants who actually work in them but. this seems to get mentioned in all the evidence it's the. immigrants in britain contribute positively to the public. the very very much less likely than the british nationals themselves to. benefit and that is even in it's politically in london and the educational standards in the schools of gold

because of the presence of immigrant families and another pos the country is clear that further immigrants there are more jobs and more job opportunities and in areas of the country which new immigrants but in which the fear of immigration is at its height there are fewer jobs and fewer opportunities for natives tell me what about the islamification on the country and the threat of radicalism and do you not regard that as a concern it is a growing problem throughout the year and that's perfectly true. again the government belatedly is taking steps. but. because you were in favor of immigration for be a doesn't mean you were in favor of you had these taking over the cubs or the. well one could argue you know one could find a link. between the free flow of immigrants and growing muslim population in london

and hero but as far as england is most most yes but most of these people are british the born in britain they have british passports and the immigrants. have been it in a two by british policy in the middle east and have been in the boy. to riches no but here born here stole from the people who did the bombings and born here. in the yukon say that stopping immigration will stop this what you have to do is make sure the education policy. is direct to muslim children in british schools the top liberal secular values. there's a case to stop the faith schools altogether i think for example david pemberton about anything that we know about the sounds of the country needs to be far more

mass killer in promoting british values what do you think do you believe immigrants have here doesn't in any way of life depends what you mean by british values and when david cameron finds it difficult to define but we ask him when he just says things like tolerance play. i think those things are quite universal values i don't know of what are british values for example maybe. not having sharia courts in your own country which are essentially a parallel set of laws what do you think. well i agree that there is no british well you have you should be cool but david cameron's government and the eagle system is of putting the agree to them. and the government is making arrangements with. sharia loans or will finance mortgages etc could be given to muslim citizens in a way that codes with printers i want out of up another hot topic

which is to scottish referendum what do you predict for it do you think scotland will go it alone. well i'm scottish yourself and i have a home in the scottish highlands. one of the problems of scotland and this is related to the e.u. . not about this the sunday times and i press this point but it doesn't really get anywhere but it's a very vital one that is the case against the scottish nationalists the independence lobby and the is the they're all fake and we alex salmond isn't promising independence all these doing is promising that scotland would become a separate province of the european union scots would even possible european union possible scottish law would remain subordinate to you peon law scottish agricultural prices for scottish farmers would be decided in brussels scottish fish

quotas for scottish fishermen would be decided in brussels scottish social policy every policy. soon foreign and defense policy and probably energy policy including the declining resources of school to show it would all be controlled by brussels so he's offering a deal by scotland would become like greece or portugal and you know become a minor. economy inside the european union and would have its budget way into the euro zone which will probably have to have its budget controlled by commissioners in brussels and by germans say he's making. small province of what the greeks already see is greater germany and he's calling this independence it's a farce but cameron and miliband and clegg can't say this because the restrictions that would remain on scotland inside the e.u.

of course they support as restrictions on england and the rest of the united kingdom say we can't how. the proper debate independence because the fact that scottish independence won't exist that scotland will just become a tiny province of the e.u. was about seven m. e p's in the european parliament as opposed to fifty six and piece in the british one all of this can't be mentioned because you can't criticize the e.u. if you're in one of the big things but just a yes or no question do you think the scots will vote yes or no. this story tony just law i think. all right al i have to go blue because. that's our that's all the time we got left thank you so much i'm sorry we had to interrupt the conversation but i'm sure we're going to get a chance to talk to you more in the future maybe in september after the referendum thanks a lot for this interesting insight we're talking to dr alan scat scholar politician

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