collapsed on the floor. in the case of involvement of health professionals when does it rise to the level of national scandal. how many more revelations about physician involvement about research about approval of interrogations from people who are clearly injured to be injured again. how much more. the american public does not hear much about dr involvement in detainee abuse since the abu ghraib scandal both administrations have gone to great lengths to present detainee treatment as humane we're going to try that one on my right now they're going to treat him mainly. reacted in

a circle. the press has given tours that modern medical facilities in guantanamo and army psychologist who report on the condition of detainees make no mention of symptoms of trauma or. the diagnosis we see are the same ones we see in the state the main or most problem diagnosis diagnosis here are personality disorders. do you see any signs of disparate but in some of these highways. not really well. make that a few of them have may be. maybe a few of them. i can't i don't know really any specific details though where they have done anything. out of desperation. doctors that detention sites are divided between those who work in treatment

services and those who work under the intelligence command although they too are officially set. there are many reports of doctors in the medical services supporting the programs of the intelligence command. released detainee adel oh there's over one day i remember i was crying terribly from the pain the doctor turned up with pain killers but he said i will give you the medication but first you need to sign a confession that you're a member of al qaeda i told him i'm not a member of al qaeda and cannot confess to a lie he put the medication in his pocket and walked out of what's interesting is that the medical personnel guantanamo never go by their real names so they always rely on pseudonyms. you know dr scarlett you know dr geneva.

so it's very hard to identify medical personnel. journalists are not allowed to interview detainees in the detention sites reports of how detainees are force fed at guantanamo come from released prisoners and their defense lawyers. i represented there was a saudi national who was in u.s. custody. from two thousand and two until two thousand and nine he was on hunger strike as a form of peaceful protest and sort of his on lawful and indefinite imprisonment away from his family was from his life and also in protest of the torture that he had survived and and he said you know that he continues under a strike on to the united states to start referring to him as an enemy combatant. you know over the course of my two years representing him and meeting with them i

want to. you know his health fluctuated sharply you know we had some meetings where he was on a gurney you know there were some meetings where he could not move in where he was invisible pain i saw him vomit repeatedly so it was it was a physically traumatizing experience for him but somehow you know really almost magically he remained lucid throughout. you know initially force feeding was done on a bed. you know relatively unfettered position so the authorities went from a protocol that accommodated the prisoners and made the force feeding experience more comfortable more more tolerable to another protocol which was designed specifically to inflict maximum pain and discomfort so as to pressure the hunger strikers to suspend their hunger strikes. the subsequent protocol that my client described involved what he referred to as the torture which was

which was a chair which was a six point restraint chair where prisoners were restrained and the arms legs torso head and neck they took away lubrication they took away local anaesthetics they took away soothing lozenges all to make the experience as uncomfortable as possible . some of the men refused to come out. because they objected to being force fed and in a brutal manner and so they wish to remain in their cells and so what the what the medical authorities are guantanamo do at that point was to order basically a riot squad six man teams in full riot gear with padding shields. that's visors mace and they would basically march into

a sob as loudly as possible to intimidate them and terrorize the prisoner population and then they would go into the cell. and drag them out to the restraint . and then one of the u.s. military medical personnel would insert the force feeding tubes and a single feeding session would last you know two to three hours depending on how much nutrition was to be administered that experience was so traumatic that a lot of the prisoners developed inflamed nasal passages the medical personnel there would leave the tubes in their noses for days on end but he was in a position where that was the only possible gesture of protest that was left to. the people in guantanamo bay we have not forgotten about you even released the ball with you yet. the period of guantanamo is still very thick and on till the place is

closed down yet and that. we were able to get a federal judge to order the government. to either force feed misters or here in humane conditions on a bed. in a clinic and not in the restraint chair or justify to the judge to the federal court why it was necessary to force feed him in that restraint check but the other hunger strikers who were not subject to that order they were still being force fed pursuant to the old protocol and to my knowledge that force feeding protocol that's a protocol that is still alive and that is still being applied in guantanamo today . guantanamo after being imprisoned for seven years without charge. but shocker i mare

a leader of the hunger strikes remains in isolation the only british resident still detained at guantanamo. bay i'm dying here every day mentally and physically. i have got kidney problems from the fill feel water. i had lung problems from the chemicals they spread all over the floor. him already had three ticket forty because they sleep on a steel bed and they use freezing air conditioning as part of the interrogation process i have ruined this from the permanent twenty four hour fluorescent light. i have been made paranoid so i can trust nobody even my lawyer because the americans play with my mind. i would just like to die quietly by myself. i was no feeding no forced to use no help.

no intensive assisted feeding. from everything we've seen about how this policy of torture was designed and implemented that health professionals are a critical cog in the wheel and that if you were to take the health professionals out the system as we know it would have come i believe would have come to a grinding halt pad the senior physicians come out forcefully and more or less unified that that clinical practitioners were not going to participate or condone any of these practices that there could have very likely been at least a curtailment and a serious limitation of their happening for the army it would have meant that the

army surgeon general would have said. absolutely we are not going to comply with this it violates all our ethical principles it is wrong and not know medical people will be involved in these practices. some intelligence and military officials did protest the torture program in simple words your own soldiers language how did this happen for your leadership sir for the brigade commander. lack of discipline. no training whatsoever general antonio taguba was forced into retirement for his rigorous investigation of the abuses the military command severely punished sergeant sam prevents for refusing to retract his testimony about tortures at abu ghraib i do know of military doctors who. either directly or indirectly did resist cooperating voiced their dissent and.

they feel and i really agree with them that their careers one way or another were heard. in contrast the officers who developed and conducted the enhanced techniques program remain well protected the cia has provided doctors james mitchell and bruce jessen with a five million dollar legal defense fund in case they are charged with torturing detainees. we got professionals who are trained in this kind of work to get information that will protect the american people and by the way we have gotten information from these high value detainees that have helped protect you in two thousand and six president bush announced that the enhanced techniques provided invaluable intelligence but by then the program was so widely condemned that a high army official could publicly refute him without getting punished. i know good intelligence is going to come from abusive practices i think history tells us that

i think the empirical evidence the last five years hard years tell us so and moreover any piece of intelligence which is obtained under duress under through the use of. techniques would be of questionable credibility. and additionally it would do more harm than good when it inevitably became known that abusive practices were used as a guy speaking truth to power and they didn't deter dick cheney or george bush from doing this anyway a chemist's was laying down the laws here look my army is not new that if it's done that in the past it's going to stop doing that because because they don't work. it was a. very hard to take. that

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kicking right close to. the first strike. and i think you're. on our reporters' twitter. instagram. live. to be in the middle of. play. in two thousand and two f.b.i. and other federal investigators tried to stop the use of methods that military interrogators were adopting at guantanamo. the federal investigators proposed an alternative way to interrogate a high value detainee it was rejected by the military in favor of more physical

coercion the alternate plan remained classified until two thousand and nine but when we actually read the plan it was chilling it was not a model for an ethical interrogation but it was based on instinct instilling a complete dependency and ability over many months and i think what we're finding out is that what colonel larry james who claims to have abolished abuses of kuantan amoa in january of two thousand and three what larry james felt was abusive was only the most extreme techniques the so-called physical techniques slapping are banging against a wall not sleep deprivation and isolation and sensory deprivation. significant but incomplete reform banning extreme physical tortures but not some of the psychological abuses can also be seen in two thousand and six revisions of the

army field manual endorsed by the obama administration any interrogations take place are going to have to abide by the army field. we believe the army field manual. reflects that of our military there at we are by far. all that says we don't torture when president obama came into office he also indicated that the interrogations by the united states forces including the cia should follow the the parameters laid down in the current army field manual that's the same army field manual that carries appendix. with all of its different abusive forms of interrogation and it also is the same army field manual that changed the definition of the use of fear up from the previous army field manual to allow for the induction of new phobias new fears it changed the language of the previous army field manual which had banned sleep deprivation now

there was no such ban and my reading of the appendix of the. field manual was that it did open the door to some of these techniques and really mostly being used by the cia. the question a detainee abuse and the role that doctors play in it is no longer limited to the military or cia operations overseas detainees awaiting trial in the united states may be subject to special administrative measures or sams that resembled the isolation and deprivation found in guantanamo. do this special administrative measures supersede the orders of a doctor responsible for the detainees care and.

if extreme isolation is harming a detainee can u.s. prison doctors stop it although much is classified there is evidence that decisions by doctors treating detainees may be countermanded by government officials. when i hear about psychologists participating in syria a black site in the kidnapping of show i know that something is wrong in the state of psychology and how psychology is being used. many human rights and health care organizations have protested the role of doctors in the torture program in two thousand and five dr steven sharfstein the newly elected president of the american psychiatric association wrote to secretary of defense donald rumsfeld raising concerns about psychiatry is assisting interrogations at guantanamo.

well i mean what happened was inherently a word and response to my letter in the beginning of october i got a call would you like to go next week i guess that's the way things you know work in the military absolutely we landed and we went took a boat trip across the bay to the prison and then we had a briefing on the present very expensive one. we heard was that there was the there were these behavioral science consultation teams biskit teams they were and were never in the room when interrogations took place they were in another room they were listening in and they had direct way to to talk to the interrogators and to advise them about what what what ways to proceed and their role they emphasize was to try to establish rapport

with these detainees and not really stress them in any way. that you know so this that they were trying definitely to convince us that what they were doing was humane ethical you know on the on the up and up. dr sharpstein and his colleagues were not convinced that psychiatry's should assist in interrogations. i didn't think the psychiatrist of any competency to be doing this kind of work and we're trained to diagnose tree. we're going to be on the ethical. position of do no harm. what training do we have and interrogations and police interrogations or any of those kinds of issues in two thousand and six after much internal debate the american psychiatric association passed a resolution stating that it was not appropriate for psychiatry's to directly assist in the interrogation of detainees these american psychiatric association just drew

a lawyer and said now. and actually many i was contacted by a number of military psychiatrist say thank you because now we can say to a superiors i don't want to go against the the policy position and the ethical. rules of the association though the standards of the a.m.a. and the american psychiatric association are as they should be strong unequivocal prohibitions against direct involvement in interrogation but the fact remains that neither of those associations have taken ethical action against members who allegedly or directly involved in the abuse of prisoners in u.s. custody. only one professional association approved if it's doctors assisting interrogations the american psychological association or a.p.a.

in two thousand and five it followed the recommendations of its task force on psychological ethics and national security or and. so for us the question is not whether psychologists may be involved in these process he's it how psychologists may be involved in these activities in an ethical manner we know from records and accounts of what went on at the task force that there was no never was there a question a discussion about whether it's ethical for a psychologist to participate in these interrogations that that was assumed from the very first moment the a.p.a. has never except when absolutely forced to by by the public record that they're even problems in the policy psychologist profession has been intimately involved with the military intelligence establishment something that sort of invisible to all marge number of practical psychologist. a.p.a.

officials appointed a task force guaranteed to approve psychologist involvement in detainee interrogations. dr morgan banks helped to write the standard operating procedures and then you will for biskit interrogation doctors dr scott schumi attended the launch of enhanced interrogation procedures at the cia black site dr larry james was the first psychologist to advise on interrogations at abu ghraib. dr breslin fever another member of the task force majority asserted that a psychologist assisting interrogations has no responsibility for detainee welfare contradicting the most basic ethical principles of psychology practice america happens to be my client america's americans or who i care about i have no fondness

for the enemy and i don't feel like i need to take care of their mental health needs producing some pain just seems to be you know what pet first blush. something that would be wrong because we do no harm but if it does the most good for the most people it's entirely ethical and to do otherwise would be unethical. officials stress the organization strong resolutions against torture and claim that psychologists keep the interrogation safe ethical and effective in two thousand and eight thousands of a.p.a. members effectively rejected this claim and voted down the interrogation policy. in spite of this referendum psychologists still assist detainee interrogations and their work remains highly controversial. today behavioral science consultants and research psychologists have a prominent role in the obama administration program for interrogating high value detainees. there's been no accountability at all no investigation there were aware

no or term to question the doctors about what they do reveal what they did fully. doctors including those in the cia and military must be licensed by their state boards which are responsible for disciplining any involved in malpractise. to my knowledge to date there have been complaints filed against health professionals in california new york louisiana alabama and ohio. before professional boards licensing boards in all of those states. and not one of them to our knowledge has even investigated officially seriously investigated any of the allegations some boards have not bothered to give written answers but over the phone one consulted have said that

they don't have jurisdiction we don't believe that's true in any of the cases. the texas state board of examiners dismissed a complaint against dr james mitchell the psychologist to according to government documents led the team that water boarded a detainee eighty three tons until congress until the national institutes of health institute of medicine realized that this is arguably the single greatest scandal in the history of american medical ethics. and act that way. we will be. not even knowing what we don't know about. even knowing the questions asked.

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