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documents released by the washington post expose of the fight as a court has granted espionage approval for one hundred ninety three countries barely every single country in the world another we know that the n.s.a. has been recording every single phone call made the bahamas and afghanistan it's clear that no country is out of bounds for the n.s.a.'s bulk data mining capabilities but of course there are four countries exempt from u.s. snooping is according to pfizer they don't present any quote valid interests for u.s. intelligence predictably they also happen to be america's partners in crime none other than the u.k. canada australia and new zealand otherwise known as the five eyes for their countries that the u.s. is explicitly working with to carry out planetary surveillance i don't know about you but i'm outraged that spies have been given carte blanche to turn global society into a system of the watched and the watchers and let's break those five guys.
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was. very hard to take. that. with you know through actions of the swat team the amount of militarization of police abuse is it suddenly kind of looking a little bit more like on every street corner but i think this article in politico is is spot on because the wider that got gets that much quicker in order to control the populace are really going to see a police state or the populace is going to rise up and say enough is enough you know inflation is extreme we can't afford to eat we can't afford to provide for our families so we're going to go after the people that put us here we're going to go after the people that have everything you know that are taking away from us it's very you know absolutely and i think he also you know he kind of foreshadows and he says that there can be a tipping point where the masses are going to be you know this relatively crappy status quo for the masses to basically dangerous levels of uncertainty and i don't think that it's completely unpredictable one that's going to happen it is yeah i
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mean you can see the writing on the wall i mean you can see that other countries and like he very clearly stated you could see a drop history and i think the u.s. is at a very dangerous tipping point right now this is my opinion but as i look around you know occupy didn't go away and occupy is very good things very peaceful you know protests but eventually even the most peaceful protests can suddenly turn violent vicious even though people like you and myself you know and myself we don't want to see violence should we don't believe in that but in situations throughout history france or french revolution things like that when the gap between the rich and the poor gets so wide eventually people take to the streets it's like j.f.k. said when you make peaceful revolution impossible violent revolutions and navigable tyrell one are also talks of the failure of trickle down economics i love the talks about this because it really is an abysmal failure and he talks about something called the middle out economics his main tenant is actually raising the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour and he says that that was actually alleviate a law. out of this any quality that we see do you agree with that i do actually you
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know and i'm not an economics but i'm a commonsense guy and when when when a populace has money to spend to me that keeps the economy going you know yes it's important to save but realistically when you look at like henry ford and you mentioned in the article and read for when they were creating the model t. he realized i have to pay my employees who create this car enough to be able to buy the car they're creating because that keeps the the circle of life going that keeps people you know buying and spending which i think is what any good capitalist economy thrives upon is buying and spending not saving savings important right but realistically we have to keep spending and and look when you're the super rich what more can you buy at a certain you want ford yeah you horrid and then you know look you're only going to buy or x. amount of pounds you're not going to be there's no super rich guy and i know this is a keep the economy going so you have to give some back and i think we've seen that the trickle down system doesn't work because it just sits at the top we need to grow it from the middle oh that's very important and yeah and you can look at
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wal-mart you know having all of their costs subsidized by a taxpayers and he says the thing about us business people that we love our customers original employees who are and i wanted to just wrap this up by saying you and i know how hard it is to broach this kind of topic without being marginalized as an idiotic socialist but really what i love about this guy's articles here he is the top point one percent or top zero one percent are and he's saying i'm a capitalist plutocrat and i'm also advocating for a socialist policy of a raise in the minimum wage i mean what do you think but his point that this will be good for capitalism of course raising the minimum wage is good and i don't think it's a socialist issue look at the end of the day you have to look at how you can take care of people you know just taking care of people is not like a right or left thing and it's a thing you should be trying to do in your heart as a society as a as a good whether it be government or business you should be looking at society saying how can i make some money but at the same time take care of people so you know if these businesses and these people who don't want government. all don't want government taking care of people great well then let's have businesses step up and
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do that maybe if they close their tax loopholes and and actually charge them and actually pay their fair share of taxes we wouldn't have to take from other areas or fix the you know in our to raise the right and wrong not let up in the right thank you so much tyrrell benatar amazing to have you on as always coming up i'll talk with the guardian journalist what kind of one is so interested in protest movements say ten. per.
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humans. this is why you should care only. the military industrial complex has guaranteed the pentagon is heavily involved in many if not most of this country's major economic and political decisions but you might not know that the defense department's also heavily interested in cultural and sociological aspects of the world too in fact in two thousand and eight the d.o.d. launched the minerva research initiative multimillion dollar program to quote improve d.o.d.'s basic understanding of the social cultural behavioral global forces that shape regions of the world of strategic importance to the u.s. but according to a recent article written by guardian journalist offering some men the pentagon is
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working in conjunction with major u.s. universities to militarize social science and prepare for global civil break down there enough is join me to discuss the minerva initiative and i started by asking him about one particular study that set out to discover why protesters don't become terrorists this is a really interesting study because this is where they really did blur the boundaries a lot so recently the study was supposed to be focused on looking at what ought what are the things that kind of stop surveillance who support so-called radical causes to quote the project what was stops them from getting involved in kind of crossing that line and becoming involved in some part of terrorists activity or some kind of political violence so the idea was that what they would do is is allies normal every day kind of social movements peaceful n.g.o.s to try and understand what is what is it that stops them from becoming involved in political
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violence but what was really interesting and disturbing about the project is that even though they kind of said that that was the point of the research when they actually categorized these acts of. so they were studying they specifically categorized peaceful activists as supporters of political violence so even if you are not engaged in what might be described as to the violence if you were a member of a group that is somehow questioning the status quo or or calling into question government policy or being active on the environment or calling into question corporate policies then you could be seen as a supporter of political violence so this is really what was really disturbing about this was the way in which the boundaries between activism. social movements and kind of radical causes were somehow being equated with terrorist activity or threat to national security which is really worrying and there's absolutely no grounds for that kind of conclusion to be drawn when we look at who is i see
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involved in terrorist activity what in your mind of the biggest dangers of weaponize in social science and cultural anthropological studies well i think one of the biggest dangers of course is that by absorbing civilian institutions into what is actually a very narrow parochial military agenda what is happening is that objective independent social science scholarship is you know on these issues is being prevented instead what so then we have this and i've experienced this myself and my colleagues in social science have experienced it where there is now this you know there's those people are academics like anybody independent media anyone activists are you know they need money they need funding for their research now all the big money is coming from the security industry in the defense industry so you have the defense industry in effect controlling the discourse controlling the discourse in counter-terrorism on security studies on international politics these are crucial subject areas that students are going into their learning from and the idea really
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is that we want our students to be getting an independent and impartial understanding which can input in a meaningful way into policy which can give policymakers good. tools to really understand the way the world works and make good decisions instead what's happening is we have these this very narrow agenda which is co-opting not discourse co-opting not research really you know kind of constraining it and that's where we have this very orwellian trajectory towards controlling information and essentially determining what is what kind of truth is legitimate and what kind of truth is illegitimate right just using these studies to exploit the cultures that you want to seize upon. the nerve of program has also been used as a method for studying societal breakdowns due to climate change this is extremely fascinating considering that the pentagon is the largest polluting institution in the world why do you think defense officials are suddenly so interested in studying the societal impact of climate change well that again it's
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a very good question because as we know in terms of meaningful action to address climate change scientists across the board have been have been telling us that you know even our current emissions reductions targets are just not enough and they will still guarantee disaster not even you know even the administration's recent measures which are most welcome are still again within that danger trajectory at the same time however we've got the plans or go on funding this kind of research which is really about trying to track what are the consequences when climate change does happen how's that going to make societies kind of more vulnerable. you know the kind of extreme weather events that we've been seeing of the last few years how is that going to make them more vulnerable and what kind of planning do we need to put in place to ensure that western interests u.s. interests on damage and this takes me back to the minister your friends research that i was talking about which of course is in a very very insulated with the pentagon you know we have
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a special relationship here with the u.s. and the u.k. and that research is looking very much of how we need to maintain the functioning of the global economy and access to distant. resources access to potentially endangered supply chains in the context of climate change in the context of all of these other kind of. uncertainties such as energy depletion or economic crisis so this is really about how do we maintain business as usual how do we keep the system going when costs increasing when dangers are increasing how do we also of course when that's making more and more people angry and upset and they want change how do we keep things going and how can be a hockey would be aware of where those things are going to hit and where those vulnerabilities are going to hit in the future so you can be prepared this is actually again about empowering the existing system which is actually creating these crises rather than transforming that system so that we can somehow prevent
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all mitigate those crises in that city and maybe transform things for the benefit of of most of the people on the planet instead this is about really unfair and in effect this is that this is a defense manifesto for the one percent right right now exactly and on the other hand you see the establishment actively suppressing information about climate change this is highly disturbing not because you wrote an article about the i.p.c.c. which is the united nations' intergovernmental panel that releases the most comprehensive reports on climate change but according to your article these reports of actually been diluted thanks to pressure from the world's superpower countries talk specifically about how these reports are diluted and what evidence there is that this is happening so there's been a number of reports talking about how the various elements of the i.p.c.c. some summaries for policymakers have been diluted so that it doesn't apply to the large body of technical reports which is like goes into thousands of pages that's not what we're talking about here what we're talking about is the summary documents which are presented to policymakers and that's supposed to obviously determine the
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policies that have been decided and you know what we need to mitigate climate change etc the problem is that the policymakers themselves appear to be actually influencing what they're being presented. in those summaries so what we're what's been happening yeah and this goes across the aisle and there's been a lot of debate about the mitigation reports but less attention has been paid to the out short scientific assessments for the impacts of climate change so that the article that i wrote was looking at information that i got from a guy called david was or who was a previously a review of the i.p.c.c. in two thousand and seven and this time around he had contact with a number of leading scientists who were involved in that process where the working groups. with policymakers to finalize the summary and in that he said. he gave quite a lot of detail i've seen how a number of leading most very powerful countries who happen to be the countries
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that were most responsible for greenhouse gases and he said this with the united states china saudi arabia interestingly he said saudi arabia actually led to the kind of push to really water down the summaries and he said that what they were trying to do was dilute the extent to which the impacts of climate change was seen to be. leading to drastic consequences in terms of the need for greenhouse gas reductions so that was the upshot and they actually asked the diagrams to be removed and they called for diagrams which were projecting emissions to the missions trajectory over the last over the next couple of decades they were they wanted that to be watered down and they also wanted detailed. data on the nature of greenhouse gas reductions that were required over the next few decades to be watered down as well so this was very very worrying and
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a lot of independent academics who were members of these working groups and who were giving advice that many stages of. these processes actually came on the record in a number of publications. not just the guardian and actually confirmed that this was happening and they were very worried there was a real effort here by the most powerful polluters in the wild to essentially water down the kind of. policy prescriptions that might be asked upon them in order to avoid dangerous climate change it's just unbelievable that we can't even trust the u.n. to provide the severity and scope of the problem here and i feel as i know that you responded to russell brand's call for revolution i want to get wrap this up by kind of getting your assessment on what the hell we can do is it just a matter of completely operating outside the system at this point nothing is i recently interviewed a very interesting guy by the name of robert steel who has an exemplary record in
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the intelligence community he's a former cia case officer and he also co-founded the u.s. marine intelligence command which is one of the major u.s. intelligence agencies and this guy basically is a pioneer of what he what we what is known as open source intelligence which is effectively not gaining intelligence used to secret methods but gaining intelligence through public information public sources whether it's open research universities or research that is how would it in some form in the public domain in using not so informed decisions and what he's argued is that most of the intelligence that is gained from secret methods is actually lost a useless as he says only three to four percent of it is actually operationally useful so most information is out for useful for decisions government level is actually open source and he's been campaigning for this for a lifetime in in his interview with me he actually said that he believes that the preconditions for revolution and by that he meant
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a complete overhaul of the existing system is actually present in the united states and in britain and in many western countries and he based this on. his graduate thesis that he did in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight he produced a very interesting kind of matrix on the on the preconditions of evolution which you can find on my guardian article which is available online and he basically said that he believes that all we need really is a trigger effectively for you know something like lock out version of a tunisian fruit seller the trigger that's going to really catalyze people to take action but also i asked him you know what's to prevent this from becoming you know something which is which is quite regressive and violent and you know as we've seen in the arab spring things haven't exactly gone very well over there in fact things are in many ways going backwards and he said well you know there's no guarantee of doubt console thing but he said there's a lot of reason to hope if we look at a lot of the developments that are happening in politics and economy in ideology
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and information he's told he's been highlighting. real life changes that are going on now where we've seen participatory methods opening up and a whole new innovations in how to organize ourselves socially how to mobilize and social media how so basically develop a kind of new ways of doing things economically whether it's big client with his virtual currencies whether it's using the internet to communicate with each other there's a he's pointed to a whole range of really exciting new paradigms are currently emerging i think he's dead on and so are you not fees you're constantly writing these mind line articles for the guardian everyone check it out now feeds ahmed thank you so so much for sharing your insight on the world. that's our show and thanks for watching you guys be sure to follow me on twitter and i think martin i mean to nominate break the set all over again.
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