great scandal both administrations have gone to great lengths to present detainee treatment as humane. we're going to look at that with the like right now we're going to treat them mainly. to get beat up hope reacted to this or. the press is giving tours of modern medical facilities in guantanamo and army psychologist who report on the condition of detainees make no mention of symptoms of trauma. diagnosis we see the same ones we see in the state the main or most problem diagnosis diagnosis here are personality disorders. do you see any signs of disparate but in some of these high is. not really well. made a few of them have may be well. maybe a few of them. i can't i don't know really any specific details though where they

have done anything. out of desperation. doctors at detention sites are divided between those who work in treatment services and those who work under the intelligence command although the two are officially separate there are many reports of doctors in the medical services supporting the programs of the intelligence command. released detainee adele oh there's over one day i remember i was crying terribly from the pain a doctor turned up with pain killers but he said i will give you the medication but first you need to sign a confession that you're a member of al qaeda i told him i'm not a member of al qaeda and cannot confess to a lie he put the medication in his pocket and walked out of what's interesting is that. the medical personnel guantanamo never go by their real names

so they always rely on pseudonyms. you know dr scarlett you know dr geneva. so it's very hard to identify medical personnel were journalists are not allowed to interview detainees in the detention sites reports of how detainees are force fed at guantanamo come from released prisoners in their defense lawyers. i represented the saudi national who was in u.s. custody. from two thousand and two until two thousand and nine he was on hunger strike as a form of peaceful protest sort of his unlawful and indefinite imprisonment away from his family was from his life and also in protest of the torture that he survived and he said you know that he would continue as under a strike on to the united states stopped referring to him as an enemy combatant.

you know over the course of my two years representing him and meeting with them i want to. you know his health fluctuated sharply you know we had some meetings where he was on a gurney you know there were some meetings where he could not move and where he was invisible i saw him vomit repeatedly so it was it was a physically traumatizing experience for him but somehow you know really almost magically he remained lucid throughout. you know initial force feeding was done on a bed you know relatively unfettered position so these are these one from a protocol that accommodated the prisoners and made the force feeding experience more comfortable more more tolerable to another protocol which was designed specifically to inflict maximum pain and discomfort so as to pressure the hunger

strikers to suspend their hunger strikes. the subsequent protocol that my client described involved what he referred to as the torture which was which was a chair which was a six point restraint chair where prisoners were restrained and the arms legs torso head and neck they took away lubrication they took away local anaesthetics they took away soothing lozenges all to make the experience as uncomfortable as possible . some of the men refused to come out. because they objected to being force fed in in a brutal manner and so they wish to remain in their cells and so what the what the medical authorities are guantanamo do at that point was to order basically

a riot squad six man teams in full riot gear with padding shields. helmets visors mace and they would basically march into a sob as loudly as possible to intimidate them and terrorize the prisoner population and then they would go into the snow. and drag them out to the restraint . and then one of the u.s. military medical personnel would insert the force feeding tubes and a single feeding session would last you know two to three hours depending on how much nutrition was to be administered that experience was so traumatic that a lot of the prisoners developed inflamed nasal passages the medical personnel there would leave the tubes in their noses for days on end but he was in a position where that was the only possible gesture of protest that was left to.

the people in guantanamo bay we have not forgotten about you even released the ball with you yet. the period of guantanamo is still very thick and on chilled up ice is closed down. and. we were able to get a federal judge to order the government. to either force feed misters or here in humane conditions on a bed in a clinic and not in the restraint chair or justified true the judge to the federal court why it was necessary to force feed him in that restraint but the other hunger strikers who were not subject to that order they were still being force fed pursuant to the old protocol and to my knowledge that force feeding protocol that's a protocol that is still alive and that is still being applied in guantanamo today . here was released from guantanamo after being imprisoned

for seven years without charge. but shocker america a leader of the hunger strikes remains in isolation the only british resident still detained at guantanamo. bay and dying here every day mentally and physically. i have got kidney problems from the fill feel water. i had lung problems from the chemicals they spread all over the floor. i already had three ticket forty because they sleep on a steel bed and then use freezing air conditioning as part of the interrogation process i have ruined it from the permanent twenty four hour fluorescent light. i have been made paranoid so i can trust nobody even my lawyer because the americans play with my mind. i would just like to die quietly

by myself. i will no feeding no force tubes no help. no intensive assisted feeding. from everything we've seen about how this policy of torture was designed and implemented that health professionals are a critical cog in the wheel and that if you were to take the health professionals out the system as we know it would have come i believe would have come to a grinding halt pad the senior physicians come out forcefully and more or less unified that that clinical practitioners or are not going to participate or condone any of these practices that there could have very likely

been at least a curtailment and a serious limitation of their happening for the army it would have meant that the army surgeon general would have said. absolutely we are not going to comply with this it violates all our ethical principles it is wrong and not know medical people will be involved in these practices. some intelligence and military officials did protest the torture program in simple words your own soldiers language how did this happen for your leadership sir for the brigade commander. lack of discipline. no training whatsoever general antonio taguba was forced into retirement for his rigorous investigation of the abuses the military command severely punished sergeant sam prevents for refusing to attract his testimony about tortures at abu ghraib i do know of military doctors who. either directly or

indirectly did resist cooperating voiced their dissent and. they feel and it is i really agree with them that their careers one way or another were heard. in contrast the officers who developed and conducted the enhanced techniques program remain well protected the cia has provided doctors james mitchell and bruce jessen with a five million dollar legal defense fund in case they are charged with torturing detainees. there or we got professionals who are trained in this kind of work to get information that will protect the american people and by the way we have gotten information from these high value detainees that have no protection in two thousand and six president bush announced that the enhanced techniques provided invaluable intelligence but by then the program was so widely condemned that

a high army official could publicly refute him without getting punished. you know good intelligence is going to come from abusive practices i think history tells us i think the empirical evidence the last five years hard years tell us that so and moreover any piece of intelligence which is obtained under duress under through the use of the abusive techniques would be of questionable credibility. and additionally it would do more harm than good when it inevitably became known that abusive practices were used as a speaking truth to power they didn't deter dick cheney or george bush from doing this anyway but kemas was laying down the laws he looked my army knew that if it's done that in the past it's going to stop to it because the work.

of terrorism is becoming increasingly internationalized the local governments which may be the case in afghanistan i'm very limited in. what how do we really strike a balance here in. fighting broke out in the east if i did not want to be peaceful if you. look at this but success. seven years old it's one of the largest cities on the east coast of america you got about one hundred people here just because of. the cost of housing in this area especially. i believe as an american we have

a rights. possess public land until something is create. that's my house you see back there live in it's adams who well groomed we spent tens and thousands of dollars us and if we hadn't done that we wouldn't have been home and i want you to understand we don't just hold the you know people of density we don't know anybody who needs help so tell your friend to just give us a more secure mortgage as they are never going to get a sense of the internet when one fell swoop got a place to live once on monday i'll be out here with my dog and. it was a. very hard to take a. chance to get on here. that he never had sex with that or make their feelings. that.

it was. kicked. click to the people. in two thousand and two f.b.i. and other federal investigators tried to stop the abuse of an ethics that military interrogators were adopting at guantanamo the federal investigators proposed an alternative way to interrogate a high value detainee it was rejected by the military in favor of more physical

coercion the alternate plan remained classified until two thousand and nine. well when we actually read the plan it was chilling it was not a model for an ethical interrogation but it was based on instinct instilling a complete dependency and ability over many months and i think what we're finding out is that what colonel larry james who claims to have abolished abuses of kuantan amoa in january of two thousand and three what larry james felt was abusive was only the most extreme techniques the so-called physical techniques slapping are banging against a wall not sleep deprivation and isolation and sensory deprivation. significant but incomplete reform banning extreme physical tortures but not some of the psychological abuses can also be seen in two thousand and six revisions of the

army field manual endorsed by the obama administration any interrogations straight players are going to have to abide by the army. we believe the army field manual. for flights of our military air at week by roger. all that says we don't torture when president obama came into office he also indicated that the interrogations by the united states forces including the cia should follow the the parameters laid down in the current army field manual that's the same army field manual that carries appendix. with all of its different abusive forms of interrogation and it also is the same army field manual that changed the definition of the use of fear up from the previous army field manual to allow for b. induction of new phobias new fears it changed the language of the previous army field

manual which had banned sleep deprivation now there was no such ban and my reading of the appendix and of the. field manual was that it did open the door to some of these techniques are really mostly being used by the cia. the question a detainee abuse and the role that doctors play in it is no longer limited to the military or cia operations overseas detainees awaiting trial in the united states may be subject to special administrative measures or sams that resemble the isolation and deprivation found in guantanamo. do the special administrative measures supersede the orders of the doctor responsible for the detainees care and.

if extreme isolation is harming a detainee can u.s. prison doctors stop it although much is classified there is evidence that decisions by doctors treating detainees may be countermanded by government officials. when i hear about psychologists participating in syria a black site in the kidnapping of sure i know that something is wrong in the state of psychology and how psychology is being used. many human rights and health care organizations have protested the role of doctors in the torture program in two thousand and five dr steven sharfstein the newly elected president of the american psychiatric association wrote to secretary of defense donald rumsfeld

raising concerns about psychiatry ists assisting interrogations at guantanamo. well i mean what happened was inherit a word and response to my letter in the beginning of october i got a call which i like to go next week i guess that's the way things you know work in the military i said absolutely we landed and we went took a boat trip across the bay to the prison and then we had a briefing on the present very expensive one. we heard was that there was the there were these behavioral science consultation teams biskit teams they were and were never in the room when interrogations took place they were another room they were listening in and they had direct way to to talk to the interrogators and to advise them about what what their work what ways

to proceed and their role they emphasize was to try to establish rapport with these detainees and not really stress them in any way. that you know so this that they were trying definitely to convince us that what they were doing was humane ethical you know on the on the up and up. dr sharpstein and his colleagues were not convinced that psychiatry is should assist in interrogations. i didn't think the psychiatrist of any competency to be doing this kind of work and we're trained to diagnose tree. we're going to be on the ethical. position of do no harm. what training do we have and interrogations and police interrogations or any of those kinds of issues in two thousand and six after much internal debate the american psychiatric association passed a resolution stating that it was not appropriate for psychiatry is to directly

assist in the interrogation of detainees these american psychiatric association just drew a lawyer and said now. and actually many i was contacted by a number of military psychiatrist say thank you because now we can say to a superior is i don't want to go against the the policy position and the out fickle . rules of the association though the standards of the a.m.a. and the american psychiatric association are as they should be strong unequivocal prohibitions against direct involvement and interrogation but the fact remains that neither of those associations have taken ethical action against members who allegedly or directly involved in the abuse of prisoners in u.s. custody. only one professional association approved of its doctors assisting interrogations the american psychological association or a.p.a.

in two thousand and five it followed the recommendations of its task force on psychological ethics and national security or. so for us the question is not whether psychologists may be involved in these process he's it how psychologists may be involved in these activities in an ethical manner we know from records and accounts of what went on at the task force that there was no never was there a question a discussion about why there was ethical for psychologists to participate in these interrogations that that was assumed from the very first moment the a.p.a. has never except when absolutely forced to by. by the public record that they're even problems in the policy psychologist profession has been intimately involved with the military intelligence establishment something that

sort of invisible to all margin number of practical psychologist. a.p.a. officials appointed a task force guaranteed to approve psychologist involvement in detainee interrogations. dr morgan banks helped to write the standard operating procedures nine you will for biskit interrogation doctors dr scott shoemaker attended the launch of enhanced interrogation procedures at a cia black site dr larry james was the first psychologist to advise on interrogations at abu ghraib. dr breslin fever another member of the task force majority asserted that a psychologist assisting interrogations has no responsibility for detainee welfare contradicting the most basic ethical principles of psychology practice america happens to be my client america's americans or who i care about i have no fondness

for the enemy and i don't feel like i need to take care of their mental health needs producing some pain just seems to be you know what pet first blush. something that would be wrong because we do no harm but if it does the most good for the most people it's entirely ethical and to do otherwise would be unethical. officials stress the organization strong resolutions against torture and claim that psychologists keep the interrogation safe ethical and effective in two thousand and eight thousands of a.p.a. members effectively rejected this claim and voted down the interrogation policy. in spite of this referendum psychologists still assist detainee interrogations and their work remains highly controversial. today behavioral science consultants and research psychologists have a prominent role in the obama administration program for interrogating high value

detainees. there's been no accountability at all no investigation there were aware or no attempt to question the doctors about what they did reveal what they did fully. doctors including those in the cia and military must be licensed by their state boards which are responsible for disciplining any involved in malpractise. to my knowledge to date there have been complaints filed against health professionals in california new york louisiana alabama and ohio. the four professional boards licensing boards in all of those states. and not one of them to our knowledge has even investigated officially seriously investigated any of the allegations some boards have not bothered to give written answers but over the phone one consulted have said that

they don't have jurisdiction we don't believe that's true in any of the cases. the texas state board of examiners dismissed a complaint against dr james mitchell the psychologist to according to government documents led the team that water boarded a detainee eighty three tons until congress until the national institutes of health institute of medicine realized that this is arguably the single greatest scandal in the history of american medical ethics. and act that way. we will be. not even knowing what we don't know about. even knowing the questions to ask.

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