lives of the ordinary people russia's foreign ministry has compiled their report and human rights violations in ukraine since the start of the armed conflict the man behind his work the mistress commissioner for human rights. was my guest today . those who suffer most from war are those who take least part of it with the ukrainian army on the offensive will the civilian plight in eastern ukraine get worse who can stop it and how and who should be held accountable. for russian foreign ministry commissioner for human rights is great show today now we're going to start from the latest news the killings of the russian journalists it's a horrible tragedy obviously. but there's a full fledged war going on in ukraine is it really possible to find who is to blame and who is responsible for the killings well obviously. what it thinks it

takes first of all political will. on the part of kiev authorities grew authorities. diffidently we. think that it is horrible it is absolutely miserable to shoot at drove us anywhere because they are performing their professional duties they are not taking sides. and they're not participants in the conflict but they are civilians and what we witness. eastern ukraine right now is. is military operation which is being waged against not just. people with. against. just huge in ukraine but russian side screw guarding journalist russian side is convinced killings are deliver it. was a. italian journalist with his translator also killed why do they rush inside that

is killings are deliberate well first of all all. drone is i mean they have markings on their clothes they have markings t.v. or press markings on on their vehicles and. there are numerous witness reports that we have obviously information which is in the open today that they are being persecuted that the russians are in them as have been persecuted by russian journalists our journalists in general not only don't level the russian we because attacks on journalists they have continued for for a while and. let's remember british journalists who are there who work that you do for who are absolutely and who was if i'm not mistaken and there and he was also have to have that. several russians on this have been killed three russians others

have been killed in exactly the and then it's at the end of this as well there was there it is impossible not to see that you are shooting at journalists because once again we are clearly marked and. given that information we have all the reasons to believe that. these are deliberate actions and let's not forget that what is happening in other parts of ukraine these are be driven this is basically which we come to because they are key you authorities they are hunting down. ukrainian drone it is not russia ukrainians on this who. allow themselves to speak. against the the the official lay against the official lead or at least to try to do to. put three more or less objectively the picture of what is happening inside ukraine today so it is it is full fledged attack on the freedom of the media

and of freedom of speech when i touch upon the refugee situation as well there is evidence thousands are fleeing the conflict zone and instead here crane by the un asked and this number is one hundred and ten thousand are those numbers accurate well. obviously the it is difficult to count but. this number is closer to the real picture and you know that the russian the respective russian authorities they have estimated that almost half a million people have fled to russia but. leave the initial un figures are much lower than one hundred thousand the u.n. presence is in the eastern ukraine and obviously is not significant. they don't have many more knitters and so they have i i do think that they

figure so obviously and all that they are they are much much. the state department says that there is no evidence to back the un take it is written figures regarding a refugee flow from eastern ukraine could u.s. monitors been write it into law knitter maybe to clarify the situation well i believe that. there are some of us wanted to receive this far as the voice even is for this because. let's not forget that we mean presidents wanted to work in presidents is not be un presence there is the always. they have several hundred monitors like you have. no i think it's not the mets or all of us are presented to us in the morning to give it is as such i think it's a political line they're watching to the stake has been taking they do everything possible not to. not to. see the facts.

or to misinterpret the facts. so they i understand that this is unfortunately this is part of the political game this is part of the information war and we take it as it is we did it as it is obviously what we what we hear from the department of state only on this is relation with if you jeezy's. is unthinkable you know it's difficult even to comment on this so. it is a far cry from the from the real situation. ukraine prevents many to cross the border from the crime to russia know what happens to those people doing out their fate well because i found well the feed is it is not difficult to foretell the the fate i mean when i was. on my way to tell you today

i had to just another report from the russian media that. the blue green ian security forces and the national guard which enables basically new and outs elements of the extremist elements ultra nationalists they restarted shooting at the refugee convoys or just the civilian cars in which people were trying to flee the has did it is and to cross the russian border games will do is unfortunately are being numbered in hundreds and in civilian casualties over the past several days only after put a. restart it's restart it's the military could be oh you've compiled a report the white book that details here and rights violations in ukraine. why do you think anyone outside russia will actually save us report seriously because from what we know everything that comes out of moscow ariz last class family and it is dismissed in the west as credible well you see in the in the west i think that we

have to differentiate a little bit who is in the west if you speak about the official quarters and the official circles yes in the washington in some of the european capitals obviously they will be happy with our new book they haven't been happy with the first one as far as human race defenders are concerned that we have received a positive reports from many of them positive signals that they have read our first book the telephone the first book the first of white book by the russian foreign ministry useful. in their activities and i think that's where we are pretty much of the mystique that this second wave will not be condoned by those in the west who seriously and practically concerns about human rights situation but i mean the main goal of this report is to start investigation what happened with the first but what

are the chances that carriage of the investigation what are the chances that the investigation will be started and even if it is started what is your and goal what do you want to achieve will do you agree with the they have reported several times that they have had the started in this sniper the sniper case so-called yes even in the huge massacre in a b s in new orleans some on some other or some other tragedies you know there's a good citizen that there's a good tax on civilians but there was investigations made there. objective nor professional so definitely what is needed is the very significant international participation in there was of this that you did a lot of those but you leave us to get off we see you we have council of europe which has established we. respected group. aimed at helping facilitating the investigation we have you m.

other internationally as well as it is not an easy path but i am a little just as a diplomat special it was up to as a as a human being as an observer. interested observer absolutely called for the. quite a number of people will be brought to justice. this is it will happen everywhere that. we're going to take a short break right now where we're going to take a break by well we're back we'll continue to talk to wolf question of foreign ministers commissioner for human rights are there talk about who's responsible for the ongoing violence in rest of ukraine and if there's a chance to end the war stay with us.

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good to have you with us here on teacher day i'm researcher. and we're back with gus thanks in the wolf russian foreign ministers commissioner for human rights talking about ukraine now you mentioned the sniper case in the first part of the program why do you think they should have snipers aligned on hasn't. been resolved why hasn't it been investigated properly because they have been used by a certain political groupings of forces or for specifically political businesses

to rock the boat and they rock the boat and they helped the cycle situation will. change of power who. was there a bottle of the part of the machinery that's why people who are now with power even chieveley perhaps i'm not so much interested in at least not yet in. disclosing. its roots but once again. ultimately i'm sure it will be it will come to the surface so the. and we will discover i mean we have the international community we will discover a very interesting facts but. violations go both sides there as human rights watch for example says that the self-defense forces are also in the abducting people

attacking them some cases have been torturing them have you looked in these reports as well well our report is is focused on the most crimes and. most significant i would say violations of human rights and there were the principle of the rule of law and those violations have been committed so far primarily by the by the government forces by the extremists all those by tendons of his bike illinois he created by killing whiskey by the right sector. we do not deny that certain certain. violations also might have been carried out by a by the by the opposition forces or let's call them. you know by people who are. who took up arms in the southeast. but you know this is the war this is the arm called the by the way the human rights watch i think for the

first time openly qualified. the this is usually agreed as the internal conflict. and it is important because we have been saying this for for a long time and not all our international partners and colleagues have the courage to admit this it means the geneva convention as a political it means that the norms of international media and law are equal. but the shortcuts to do stopping there were allegations is to seize violence is to stop violence is to stop the military to ration which is being waged and this is what the the believe decoration and the geneva agreements are about. but you said three number one in you say asiri that those responsible for this hideous crisis are mostly the right sector groups they all the ones who are volunteer battalions from the west but these groups are these people aren't necessarily under the official

camps control so how fair is it to blame the official care for what these people are doing and. the officials you see the ukrainian authorities are still under the obligation to do this design and does bend the illegal armed forces from ephraim's and the right sector is one of them. so it's part of the next little girl you know . so the planes which have bowled me we administer to buildings the residential quarters via under keeps control. and there are there is evidence we hear that they have been interceptions of the or because of the over the can the stations because the pilots have b. and b. and the operators you know. if the tanks which are there a pretty much end to end there with the ukrainian army they're pretty much under control and they're being executing the orders which are being given by the ukrainian defense ministers officials you know and the offices if it means that

large portion of responsibility. rests with key thought it is you know if the if the extremists and you know new enough is operating in some cases outside gives control is just another. factor which necessitates. their disarming disbanding and bringing to justice the the the members of those of those formations the army of the the those who will those who will fight the civilians who kill civilians so then you know that the next question from the west would be who is responsible to call who would be the authority responsible to disarm the self-defense squads in a strange way well they're still defense forces in the in the ukraine definitely. because all eyes are looking at russia you know right up to the well russia is not a is not will first of all the president. has said more than once that we do not

have control over those. over those their forces we are not there as russia you know they are fighting in the ukrainian territories territory first secondly i was talking about effective control so secondly definitely. eat is to be part of the whole dissolution. if you read the. believe declaration it speaks about about stopping all violence and definitely leading down arms. and we'll let as they're respected by both sides it is a supplier it is up to them if it is even is not respected them the only alternative is the agreement of the conflict what we see now as we speak is the aggravation of the conflict. and huge increase in the number of civilian casualties so as minister lavrov said that already you know each and every day all

of. the without cease fire brings more and more casualties among the civilians because the most vulnerable people in this zone of conflict of the civilians well the state department spokesperson says that they reason this is for any crane didn't really work out is because the russians have not taken the steps needed it for at the end of to implement a cease fire they were backed by president parra shankar horses at that russia is not fulfilling its promise as what exactly is expected from russia the russians not once you get russia's other participant of the of this conflict we have sad and we are doing what we have pledged we are definitely. calling on the civil defense forces we have actually called on them to respect the first. and definitely they have been waylaid as unfortunately on both sides but you cannot compare the scale of those violations you know it is with. military

aircraft are being used. and they shoot you know indiscriminately this is a huge way of you know you cannot compare it to kalashnikov fire you know but but at the same time although anyway leif was bad but no no what it was the it was the part of the government of president bush and of himself who actually. took. huge critical responsibility to do not to to continue. fire and to resume and iterate the reason. so basically. this is. this is what happened and this is a fact which is difficult to deny. what we hear from the department of state well you know. if we let you put it in this way we are no longer suppressed pretty

much may what we hear from that about this is very unfortunate we hold that we still hold that the united states government will will. starts looking at the situation in a more realistic and constructive way and once again whatever we can do we are doing but. the ultimate responsibility for the. for reaching the ceasefire for stopping the the the. facilities rests with the kiev government to give authorities and obviously if it is down and definitely we are confident that the defense forces will follow suit but it should be steady if you don't both science you know both sides then go takes to just a follow up his deputy secretary of state after a new line has sad that it's russia that is to blame for it they had to share a ration at the situation in eastern ukraine you know that. you

know she. also said at one point that she was distributing those you know cakes to everybody not just to europe my dumb activist but to to to to also to the militia. you know officers you know. officers you know so she definitely knows better but. seriously speaking i think that it is crucial time for all concerned parties for all parties concerned i mean globally you know. for all parties concerned to. start serious efforts to influence both sides of the conflict to lay down arms to stoker's that it is and to start. to start a full fledged political process dialogue aimed at considerable reforms and aimed at finding compromises which will cater to everybody's interests and to the needs

of the soul of the entire population of ukraine including south east i think this is you know there are political games the praise for political games. is is dramatic you know and. you know when. small children are being killed on a daily basis i don't think that anyone of the united states anyone you respect if all of a political everybody from the political views nobody wants this to happen i'm sure we can just say that they have servers are praised and objective and a lot of terrorists why one day what's a find and they also say of the little children doll area is so much for a you know you see you know we have russia we have support it's always the mission whole happen and we continue to do so then i think this points of roughly fifteen russian forces of russian gas well this morning to us in the in the in the mission

we think that they have a critically important meant it and if the hopefully build integration is. implemented we see we'll have under the declaration you agreed to will to play but . so far the only force right you are as well as the u.n. observer mission reports they have not been. they have not been. objectified off they have become. months they have become more complete. a bit more but not completely complete sort of photo told you that also they are not the still can do a lot of sets. that's also a play lesions of human rights by the extremists by the ultra nationalists and by the authorities by the. way the ukrainian. army.

is still. at them you shoes which have nothing to do pretty much with the human rights situation in ukraine so we have our problems we continue to have problems with their reports but i think. hopefully. we will also be more instrumental. in this situation. would be the parties. to assist i think it's very important political role which was he used to play or maybe you have one of those little directives because tense in belgrade fresh and foreign ministry is sad commissioner for human rights thank you very much for this insight because he has put a report together called white cloak examining all of the human rights abuses that took place in ukraine for the past months we're talking about face human rights violations and what should be done with it that's it for this edition of sophie and

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