hate corporations have no feelings corporations don't care about you or me corporations only care blood profits. we're going to visit with barbara and we're going to keep trying to see if we could come to a mutual come so it's a song a lot of things because it's important to us. began to visit i mean we still don't know what it was all about this is where gibson

makes its finest and most expensive instruments are housed in this building you'll you'll love it clarence if you're a guitar guy it's pretty special we have a unique opportunity because we're making musical instruments. but it's a very aggressive goal trying to get a big corporation to change the way they look at this business practice. you know. it's never been a possibility in the history of the world that i know where the property or the dear boy grows is tribal so that someone would say well we couldn't we could come up with a management plan that could last generations into the future and if we have a few miles to get out of going to the city i just told you of the demise of five

other species just in the last hundred fifty years this one has a chance to. b b there are patches. and then i came in one place and i think it was taylor and i looked there and i saw you know a wall full. spruce. and i was you know i was really blown away at the role that our resources played in the music industry. is a very. it was i think. they have or they have. reason to be concerned about good would you all believe how beautiful and i don't want to be. you want to tell us how to do things. bring us some kind of an economy of

a to order place what we want to do bring us in a calm economic plan and there are fifty ways everybody's got an issue in our threesome greenpeace we're trying to save this forest the guitar guys they want music quality sitka spruce forever seal asco wants to be a profitable company where is the common ground the common ground is over the resource so we brought to the table the forest stewardship council the f.s.e. as a solution for the f.s.e. is basically that seal of approval for good forest management it's got the fs c. logo you're trying to impact this forest as little as possible but still be profitable and there's there's a hope that there's a greater cause there are you guys to set up in the fall at a future not only that of be a good business and. i think you already know or think.

it's all israelis for all your hospitality are there race there or maybe we're going to go back home and think about our would take action is that i have to stress it does have to me. economically meaningful for us and i'm. interested for. seniors.

the music would coalition does exactly what we hoped it would do which was bring a sense that a. beauty. to the whole thing. my understanding is that c alaska like no way that that raw material was transformed in to something that has a history and a heritage and is part of culture. we use twitter blogs and. it's not very much. a fraction of a percent. but we seem to be probably the lion's share of the prize and so we're helping maybe cast

a vision for that. you know we use see what that would becomes or something that resonates in people's hearts about music about musical instruments and it becomes important. i think one of the kind of fundamental assumptions of this campaign was that if we get everybody in the room at the same time and you know metaphorically lock the doors there's a lot of common interest if the campaign is going to succeed is still anyone's guess there are all. other politics plays in the tongass.

we have a bill in congress tried to true. final settlement awarded. a. large. area that generated. legislation.

creating the distrust is the term. that our was practices and therefore. it was says. what is in the position. nearly out of trees now. say well you should look at all those trees or you should look. maybe we would not have been able to advance maybe people's interests far as we have if we had done some of that. the chamber is coming to a halt if we don't want to receive the final settlement from congress. and we have to we need help to do it or we can just do it on our own.

when. you're feeling. thank you all for coming in very very briefly a little bit about see alaska where they are where they said to spruce we'll give you an update on this u.s. because land bill they have approached you in the past and they will approach you again basically seeking congressional you know your your support i think that our coalition has probably moved from a posture of i don't know if i trust these guys to. i think i do trust these guys at least that's our best bet to get where we're wanting to go if you agree with that from greenpeace point of views. from the greens here is going to do it have to make it is you know if it's risky and again it is up to each individual corporation depending on their personal opinions to decide what level to support this i know

that they have been on a journey and they're in a place now that's light years away from where they were. last october f.s.e. forestry professionals went up to southeast alaska and unless i'm utterly blindsided i think we're still in the game from a business standpoint if they can pull this off they want to do it. i think the news and see alaska and the progression of this certification process. is encouraging is still a lot of work to be done each meeting it's great because we move a little bit closer to a resolution there's a time factor there that we it's an unknown but we hope we can get something done soon. the auditors came in from the sea. and we spent weeks with them flying around

everywhere to be able to see what is doable and what is not doable. they've given us a plymouth report and we're now in the process of evaluating that. the biggest challenge that we face is the sustainability equation and because we don't have all of our land and we don't have all of our conveyances we're really in this kind of incomplete position. see alaska prepare the overview and it boils down to sort of one thing and that's clear cut and if there can be a meeting of the minds and a negotiation that allows the clear cuttings to be smaller this is going to be the crux of the matter if it were going to be no we're going to go in and just take it all down the way we've always done we don't really want to modify that plan that might be. a deal buster.

it's like you know when the bullets to stop. because it's like. a backpack that. moment so it's almost like there's a beat. and then you just see the big sound it's like a base. right on the sea. first street. and i think picture.

on army orders. i know c.n.n. the m s n b c news have taken some slightly but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate oh. that was funny but it's closer to the truth and might think. i'm ok it's because when full attention and the mainstream media works side by side the joke is actually on here. coming up. at our teen years we have a different press the go out because the news of the world just is not this funny

i'm not laughing dammit i'm not ok. if. i got a set of jokes that will handle the stuff that i've got to. your friend posts a photo from a vacation you can't afford. to different. the boss repeats the same old joke of course you like. your ex-girlfriend still pens tear jerking poetry keep. norris. we post only what really matters. to your facebook use feet. right up there to attend the tree ceremony and of course it was an opportunity for

us all the film and gather into the future of the project. because the clock is taking. the see around i made it sure did all right good deal nice to be here that's. the only way it was ever going to work is for everyone to try to get through all the. that every side says. seems like maybe between eighty and ninety or ninety five that all. are sitting with stone when you say that. martin and taylor. group some thank you very much for coming here. they're our family all still there came a long ways to see all we do think we're going to fall

a tree today. forest spirit. all good corps nice song. list some. turn your ears toward me. to call and we're going to say thank you. how could you pray over all those things are going to cut down some more of our career. than the prayer.

you've created for me you have the ideal of doing that you say. and your thank you note for those uses. one with a preamble and they're praying over our ministry. down you know how can you. please. thank you so much all of you for coming. there's been an awful lot of times or i bit my tongue to the point that i think. because this is always only has been a very delicate campaign. and if. you're not be sure or if you're

too aggressive. you know if you're going to break par. in any number of ways. with the guitar guys care about it is that best see certification. and that's what we haven't discussed. at all. i don't know where the no we are. after this see alaska tree ceremony i think the relationship hit a speed bump. and greenpeace decided that we were going to start opposing the sea alaska land bill. we did this because of the only that matters is the forest we have not been able to have

a good conversation and i went to environmental us where we could really talk about this. when their bill was being put before congress pretty much the entire environmental community signed a letter in opposition to that particular bill. and we're greenpeace and at the end of the day we we have to call them as we see them i'm just i'm just not happy with environmentalists they just don't understand i don't understand that i really don't i'm not going to say that you know. some of them would rather drink poison than. get certified we talked to them and we've been forthright and all of our plans we've come to them and said this is what we're going to do or out i hate to say i. said it. played cop

white man speak with forked tongue. from the news channel five that's what. bought the company well known for helping make music is striking a different chord with federal investigators agents strong several gibson guitar locations today as part of an illegal implored investigation the company is under investigation for allegedly importing protected wood from madagascar an island nation off the coast of africa and by mentalists a evony and rosewood trees have been also harvested and are now in danger federal agents strong gibson's mass monroe plant and its headquarters agents spent the

entire days using guitars wood and other items even though charges have yet to be. illegal logging is tied to some of humanity's worst places. the drug trade civil war slavery. it's an evil scourge and it finds its way into the international marketplace. the fact that it is gibson guitars a member of the go allision for also long. the irony was this was blighted. absolutely it was it was a shock. i think it shows that that. many times the issues that you face. are pretty pretty

big. we are verifying you know the filth the legal origin of of all the with that we use. we have a lot to protect us endangered species and if it separates the legitimate operators from those that consciously or unconsciously were supporting illegal logging that's a good thing. if they did it's like you know you if you do the crime you gotta do the time. that makes the dynamic more difficult for the music would collision. now nobody is supposed to talk. we have not talked with anyone in the coalition and i probably won't until there's a resolution.

as far as. i have to tell you that my my sense is that there is confusion and disarray at this point. it's terribly frustrating you know because i thought we had some momentum i thought we had some agreements we haven't moved any further with f.s.b. we've gone through the plumber very work we still remain very interested in going green right now where just focusing on our land legislation the guys who are

supposed to be working on for a certification have been to our our legislation the land will be. the most preeminent issue for us and so we're not going to quit we will not stop until it is done. now it seems like yeah yeah yeah well just wait just wait it's like well what are we waiting for what are we waiting for these i think they're two separate issues you know can't you can't you do more than one thing at a time but there are it's really not my decision. i'm in a kind of an awkward point now where greenpeace house too. so maybe you know we have to. formally. let the coalition go. but in force informally i think i can just pick up the phone

and we can get the band back together. i for six years ten years or so fig trees left for at least now with the land that they have. and. that's right around the corner. so i will say the guitars are simply going to change i'm going to make another little news flash for all you guitar players out there that beautiful two piece top that you have with really perfect grain perfect this perfect that. that's a bit of vanity that we're going to all have to shed here pretty soon. when we have to live for us we felt that life. and there were rules

laws in the protocols that govern all these things. you may know now how as we get from there are cool here. we need to go with inner selves. and come out as we were before. we need to gain their respect to spare for everything.

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