place on private lands. most of it native corporate lands. and the majority of that caught has actually been see alaska logging corp. but. i had no use for greenpeace but i am familiar with greenpeace from my whaling games and they didn't have the greatest reputation with indigenous people. i think. we're in for now and not necessarily a confrontational relationship but it's it's had its ten small months with with greenpeace. a clear cut. they will justify why they clear cut but that's what they do that's what we're

trying to stop. our relationship to the land and our relationship our cultural value says that we review and but we also utilise the land. they won't listen to me unfortunately they wouldn't listen to me. so greenpeace decided to send the year a true documentary crews covering. what products are made from these species. and lo and behold we noticed a very sliver of a supply going to very famous musical instrument manufacturers.

well these are just cruise tops they're very light they're still going strong. fantastic soundboard guitars. i've been making guitars for thirty five years and ten years into it i realized that i was going to see the disappearance of some species of would have been in my lifetime. the sixth generation chairman and c.e.o. of my family's business the martin guitar company. this is a de forty five and what's amazing to me we've got ninety one of these are the world works through my grandfather would have been involved in the manufacture of

this not only do we have one but two i've never been in the same room with two printers martin d forty five at the same time adirondack spruce top brazilian rosewood back and science the top of our line this one is nice if you happen to know of. one hundred sixty five thousand dollars in your wallet. guitar builders chose the woods they chose before my family got in the business of making guitars those woods were then extremely exotic on imagine trying to get ebony from africa and rosewood from brazil but no one has since found any better woods. they nailed it. the great woods that are the terrible great musical instruments.

one of our historic and most successful gibson acoustics ever is a j two hundred it's just got it a unique sound but beautiful safe to spruce top as you can see just gorgeous and you can you can hear the tonality of it as i as i lightly tap it's just beautiful. prior to us convening the initial meeting i think they all die as a crazy person. you know jokingly i remember saying to them we're not going to ram a boat into a tree are you was i a member of greenpeace you know no i mean as a sort of doing my saying you know i've got stained hands i use this word we all do it i want greenpeace showing up on my front door no but i came and i met these people ok so we'll try. and uselessly teach.

you that sure there is that shit. is useful whole year old construct. this. they said well we've taken a look at what's going on in alaska and based on the rate that they're cutting these big trees if they don't stop and take a deep breath and think about this they're going to cut the last tree in our lifetime. and that caught me up what i mean what they asked was would we be willing to form a coalition to help the talk was a native american corporation which we had no idea existed. in this corporations called c alaska. where you deign to see if we. were honest the market was ours for trade. so they said would you mind helping it is through that this is about making the business surviving.

greenpeace schedule of these alaska region. my boss came to me and said hey nick we have this opportunity we've been working with the music would coalition and they're actually going to go as a rube up to see last up would you mind going for me you'd have to spend a week in alaska and i said well i guess i could suffer through that if you really need me to. and when i realized who i was with and the conditions they were going to be and i was pretty overwhelmed grey frankly. i was of the bunch of competitors selling around the thomas national forest and i was concerned

by how they might act towards me. we saw some pristine uncut force there the biggest trees i had ever seen there's kind of a wow factor to that. there's a beautiful trees up there that you could kneel down and say a prayer underneath. and probably shed a tear while you're doing it. but these guitars are made up of a tree to somehow that's beautiful and. there has to be a win win in there and that's the trick. yeah i just had a whole new appreciation for for nature and what it what it just area to see alaska folks have there.

it's like you know when the bullets to stop. because it's like duck duck duck duck go back back back. home so it's it's almost like there's a beat the blue and then you just see the big sound it's like a bass. i know c.n.n. the most n.b.c. fox news have taken some not slightly but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's close and for the truth and might think. it's because one full attention and the mainstream media works side by side the joke is actually on here. at our teen

years we have a different brain. on the phone because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not how. you guys talk to the jokes i will hand over the stuff that i've got to. i'm abby martin the stories we cover here you're not going to hear any right other big story that extra have wild and tough there's a reason they don't want you to know about an airport and all three said we should be completely outraged now let's break the set. the tongass national forest is the largest national forest the united states. is

the largest on fragmented walk. can there first temperate rainforest left in the world. i'd say arguably it's one of the most important if not the most important national forests. these trees have a real value ecological value in the ecosystem services they provide. they are very important for a lot of wildlife species for things like water habitat and salmon reproduction. that biodiversity is is priceless it's disappeared from so many places on the planet.

these big trees here are said to spruce and they're probably between three to six hundred years old and they can't easily be recreated. the really big trees the really large spruce stands like this that were really targeted by logging only a small fraction of those are left. if you can imagine an entire landscape like this being logged the scale is announced. the first impression i had was don't know what these environmental us are talking about because all i see is trees trees and trees and trees and trees and then we

went out of bed and all i saw was trees cut down as far as the eye could see. and you realize oh. you could really cut those trees down it's possible. but i inquired well how long did it take to harvest this section that's as vast as could be all five years like wow just a huge impact on all of us we just kind of sat there with our jaws open. all it was was a little bit of green grass and mud and a bunch of stumps things and pieces that were kind of. i had never seen clear cutting anywhere before and the next question i asked myself was why would somebody do that. we need

to convince the sea alaska board of directors not implementing that sustainability program because that could easily supply our industry with wood for the foreseeable future. so after seeing the effects of clear cutting or i mean we were just convinced that we really had to take a stand. my god. this isn't. easy. we want to tell the rooms we want everyone to know. that this is our. brand think it's our

industry first approached us we were too certain what they were all about. we got acquainted with the coasts and wanted to help regulate how we were logged. i could not see past them. if i own a home. then nobody outside my home should come in and tell her well this is this is the way you'd better run your house you know. it was kind of like we're here to find out why you're clear cutting i think how we were perceived and maybe we actually felt a little bit that way so the questions came out of it will help us understand why you clearcut. see alaska flew us all over in helicopters for us to understand their forestry

operations for you to fly down the challenge straight away to dry ground did you know who is the steward you're there why this life back up here. that thing this different here in southeast alaska as compared to other for us is. this region was largely undeveloped. it's not a d. for station thing it's here it is a harvest thing it is changing the ecology. we use clear cut logging because it's cost efficient it's just that the in terms of recovery of

all you know. we can take more volume out and have it be all be economic we have a responsibility to provide some sort of economic support for our communities and it has affected our forest management harvest and our harvest. we use words like harvesting but i prefer to view it as mining because i believe that in order to harvest something you have to banning caged and growing it. i don't believe that you're harvesting trees. by definition that are grown for eight hundred years because nobody gave you don't. you have anything to do with that. this is

something that i really think we need to talk about for guitar would. be the practice of for chamber harvest and se is something we're going to have to do and i'm just going to say that on where playing. on the economics there's a whole bunch on the street that's just so that is a management issue and. when we i'm going to show you a penny study pixel he said he'd look at it from our point of view to create. to make a guitar top we need a three hundred fifty year old six spruce tree so it might behoove you to think about saving some of those trees so that we can see to use those many years in the future because the trees really valuable to us. you can't uncut those trees. can always come back and cuddle which can uncover.

this is all about relationship building on all sides three different cultures coming together environmental culture in the business culture and the sea alaska perspective. from seoul the relationship has evolved from inch by inch and a kind of culminated and celebration which the last corporation organizes and runs saying can't hide the same c.n.n. . people of the land welcome to celebration we have some special guests among us almost every guitar has a seal ask a spruce on the top and these people came a long ways at our invitation bob taylor taylor guitar i have

a taylor guitar martin guitar i hear great things about this guitar. it's got all someplace thank you for being here and if we had the time we'd ask for a little concert but i'm not so sure that we have the time. we look forward to reconnecting to our ancestors and celebrating who we are as playing to get hired and simms yeah and.

you have to remember that our people all were brutally forced to assimilate to western culture. people like myself or adopted kidnapped from our homes and put into schools where we would learn the american way the capitalist way. you know our people were suffering and. there was great hope around the

development activities and corporations. not. that we didn't want to make profits we wanted to make profits. but i would say we'd never had complete. decision among our people. i have never seen an a man return to this economy. through town where there's no economy being developed it's strictly a resource extraction. and liquidation. for wasn't for us. here and salmon. everywhere spanish. they don't have to rely on that. but do they care that we only have so because they're going

to be taking all the temblor that supports all the spam and. joining the corporation shouldn't be confused with. being part of a culture. that's outrageous sale have any real core values i mean whether it's that is to say are going to go trim down the whole country i mean and then what. the forest ranger grew up with this and there are going to be there again. my children will never be a most experienced. expect to live burglars are ok we're going to cut through some of our trees but we're going to make sure that we rebuild our land back to something like oil one. we haven't been able to do that. the people

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