it. makes my heart break. because there's nothing left to take if they're going to come back for more. corporations don't love corporations told corporations have no feelings corporations don't care about you or me corporations we care about profit.

we're going to visit with and we're going to keep trying to see if we could come to a mutual come sense a song a lot of things because it's important to us. began to visit i mean and we still don't know what it was all about this is where gibson makes its finest and most expensive instruments are housed in this building you'll you'll love it clarence if you're a guitar guy it's pretty special we have a unique opportunity because we're making musical instruments. but it's a very aggressive goal trying to get a big corporation to change the way they look at this business practice.

you know. it's never been all civility in the history of the world that i know where the property or the dear boy grows is tribal so that someone could say well we didn't we could come up with a management plan that could last generations into the future and if we have anything else again it's going to be it's a bunch told you that the lives of five other species just in the last hundred fifty years this one has a chance to. b b there are special. and then i came in one place and i think it was taylor and i left there and i saw you know a wall full sitka spruce. and i was you know i was really

blown away at the role that our resources played in the music industry. where. it was i think. they have work they have. reason to become sure goodwood you won't believe how beautiful and i don't want to be. you want to tell us how to do things. bring us some kind of an economy of a throne or place what we want to do bring us in a calm economic plan and there are ways everybody's got an issue in our three some green peace we're trying to save this forest the guitar guys they want music quality sitka spruce forever seal asco wants to be a profitable company where is the common ground the common ground is over the resource so we brought to the table the forest stewardship council the f.s.e.

as a solution for the f.s.e. is basically that seal of approval for good forest management it's got the fs c. logo you're trying to impact this forest as little as possible but still be profitable and there's there's a hope that there's a greater cause there are you guys to set up in the fall at a future not only that is be a good business and. i think you already know where i think. it's all israelis for all your hospitality are there races or maybe we're going to go back home and think about our would take action is that i have to stress it does have to me. economically meaningful for us humans are his chances are. i've seen yet.

the music would coalition does exactly what we hoped it would do which was bring a sense that a. beauty. to the whole thing. my

understanding is that c alaska is like no way that that raw material was transformed in to something that has a history and a heritage and it's part of culture. we use twitter blogs and. it's not very much. a fraction of a percent. but we seem to be probably a lion's share of the profit and so we're helping maybe cast a vision for that. you know where you see what that would becomes or something that resonates in people's hearts about music about musical instruments and it becomes important.

i think one of the kind of fundamental assumptions of this campaign was that if we get everybody in the room at the same time and you know metaphorically lock the doors there's a lot of common interest if the campaign is going to succeed is still anyone's guess but there are. other politics plays in the tongass.

we have a bill in congress tried to true. final settlement awarded. a. large. area that generated. legislation. creating the distressed. that are was practices and therefore. this is. what is in the position. nearly out of trees now.

say well you should look at all those trees or should the. well maybe we would not have been able to advance native peoples interests. as we have if we had done some of that. the chamber is coming to a halt if we don't receive the final settlement from congress. and we have to we need help to do that and just do it on our own. when. you're feeling. thank you all for coming very very briefly a little bit about see alaska where they are where they said to spruce we'll give you an update on this u.s. because land bill they have approached you in the past and they will approach you again basically seeking congressional you know your your support i think that our

coalition has probably moved from a posture of i don't know if i trust these guys to. i think i do trust these guys at least that's our best bet to get where we're wanting to go if you agree with that from greenpeace point of views. from the greens recently to it is have to make this is you know it's risky and again it is up to each individual corporation depending on their personal opinions to decide what level to support this i know that they have been on a journey and they're in a place now that's light years away from where they were. last october f.s.e. forestry professionals went up to southeast alaska and unless i'm utterly blindsided i think we're still in the game from a business standpoint if they can pull this off they want to do it. i think the

news and see alaska and the progression of this certification process. is encouraging is still a lot of work to be done each meeting it's great because we move a little bit closer to a resolution there's a time factor there that we it's an unknown but we hope we can get something done so that. the auditors team from the office see. and we spent weeks with them flying around everywhere to be able to see what is doable and what is not doable. they've given us a plymouth. and we're now in the process of evaluating now. the biggest challenge that we face is the sustainability equation and because we don't have all of our land and we don't have all of our conveyances we're really in this kind of an incomplete position. see alaska prepare the overview and it boils

down to sort of one thing and that's clear if there can be a meeting of the minds and a negotiation that allows the clear cuttings to be smaller this is going to be the crux of the matter if it were going to be now we're going to go in and just take it all down the way we've always done and we don't really want to modify that plan that might be. a deal buster.

well but i will only react to situations i haven't read the reports so i'm not in a position to know i will leave them to the state department to comment on your latter point a month or so it's ok because all you're talking. no

more weasel words. when you have a need a direct question be prepared for a change when you punch be ready for a. printout of speech and down to freedom to cost. the fifty's with the economic ups and downs and the find out how long they belong to the old sang i and the rest because i take it will be a briefly on me. to speak your language. programs and documentaries in arabic it's all here on. reporting from the world talks about six of p.r.p.

interviews intriguing story to tell you. he's been trying. to find out more visit our big teeth dog called. invited up there to attend the trees ceremony and of course it was an opportunity for us all the. future of the project. because the clock is ticking. but she made it sure did all right good deal is to be here that's. the only way it was ever going to work is for everyone to try to get through all the. that every side says.

seems like maybe between eighty and ninety or ninety five. and when you say that. mark taylor. group some thank you very much for coming here. there are family all still there came a long ways to see all we do think we're going to fall a tree to be. forced spirit. lissome. turn your ears towards me. to call and we're going to say thank you. please.

could you pray over all those things are going to cut down some more of our career . than the prayer. you've created for me you have that ideal life and do it at your age. and your thank you note for note this use is. one with a preamble and they're praying over on my street. down you know how can you.

please. thank you so much all of you for coming. there's been an awful lot of times or i bit my tongue to the point that i think. because this is always only has been a very delicate campaign. and if. you're not patient or if you're too aggressive. you know if you're going to break par. in any number of ways. with the guitar guys care about is the fs see certification. and that's what we haven't discussed. at all. i don't know where the no we are.

after this see alaska tree ceremony i think the relationship hit a speed bump. and greenpeace decided that we were going to start opposing the sea alaska land bill. we did this because of the only that was the forest we have not been able to have a good conversation and i went to environmental us where we could really talk about this. when their bill was being put before congress pretty much the entire environmental community signed a letter in opposition to that particular bill. we're greenpeace and at the end of the day we we have to call them as we see them

i'm just i'm just not happy with environmentalists they just don't understand i don't understand that i really don't i'm not going to say that you know. some of them would rather drink poison them. get certified we talked to them and we've been forthright and all of our plans we've come to them and said this is what we're going to do or i hate to say i. said it. played cop white man speak with forked tongue. from the news channel i just what. i bought the company well known for

helping make music is striking a different chord with federal investigators agents strong several gibson guitar locations today as part of an illegal employment investigation the company is under investigation for allegedly importing protected wood from madagascar an island nation off the coast of africa and by mentalists a evony and rosewood trees have been over harvested and are now in danger federal agents john gibson's masterman road plant and its headquarters agents spent the entire day seizing guitars wood and other items even though charges have yet to be . illegal logging is tied to some of humanity's worst places. the drug trade civil war slavery. it's an evil scourge and it finds its way into the international marketplace.

the fact that it is gibson guitars a member of the coalition for also long. the irony was this was biden. absolutely it was it was a shock. i think it shows that that. many times the issues that you face. are pretty pretty big. we are verifying you know the filth the legal origin of of all the with that we use. we have a law that protects endangered species and if it separates the legitimate operators from those that consciously or unconsciously were supporting illegal logging that's a good thing. if they did it's like you know you if you do the crime you gotta do

the time. that makes the dynamic more difficult for the music good collection. now nobody is supposed to talk. we have not talked with anyone in the coalition and i probably won't until there's a presentation. as far as. i have to tell you that my my sense is that there is confusion and

disarray at this point. i. think it's terribly frustrating you know because i thought we had some momentum i thought we had some agreements we haven't moved any further with f.s.b. we've gone through the the plumber very work we still remain very interested in going green right now we're just focusing on our land legislation the guys who are supposed to be working on for a certification have been to our legislation the land will become. the most preeminent issue for us and so we're not going to quit we will not stop until it is done. now it seems like yeah yeah yeah well just wait just wait it's like well what are we waiting for what are we waiting for these i think they're two separate issues you know can't you can't you do more than one thing at a time but there are it's really not my decision.

i'm in a kind of an awkward point now where greenpeace has to do. so may be we have to. formally. let the coalition go. but in force informally i think i can just pick up the phone and we can get the band back together. i for six years ten years or so fig trees left for italy now with the land that they have. and. that's right around the corner. though i will say the guitars are simply going to change ugh i'm going to make another little news flash for all you guitar players out there that beautiful two

piece top that you have with really perfect grain perfect is perfect that. that's a bit of vanity that we're going to all have to shed here pretty soon. when we have to live for us we felt that life. and there were rules and laws and protocol that govern all these things. you may know now how if we get from there cool here. we need to go with inner selves. and come out as we were before. we need to

gain their respect to be used to for everything.

spits. you know george orwell once said the relative freedom which we enjoy depends on the public opinion the law is no protection governments make laws but whether they are carried out and how the police behave depends on the general in the country they have large number of people are interested in freedom of speech there will be

freedom of speech even if the law forbids it. such tried to. pull out of. your life or just a short changing every minute. oh well. my own life but. let's say. these cases. sometimes for nothing. this season and it's. still just you still can still be shot if you see the stage eight

look easy. but the speech was a. little . i'm abby martin the stories we cover here knock and other big story the extra headlines and talk news a reason they don't want to know about me that are important and telling the truth is that we. now let's break the set. well in the new little drama and a lot of these policies i think you're right. a

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