that includes the fifteen crew members also on the plane with nine britons four germans three filipinos and a canadian. this is the latest pictures coming out of kuala lumpur right now as families have gathered in the country's central airport shortly after they found out exactly what had happened and many became angry and demanding to see the passenger manifest desperate for news of their loved ones but the worst hit has been. lost more than a hundred and fifty of its citizens relatives desperately trying to find out what's happened to their family members a boy could now reporting from. relatives and friends would have gone to bed last night hoping that everything that took place yesterday was just a dreadful nightmare but holland has woken up this morning to nothing short of a national tragedy as you said the majority of the passengers on that flight were

nationals and that flight took off from here where i am in amsterdam people airport before it crashed in ukraine and the scenes we saw here yesterday absolute devastation of the devastated passengers relatives just trying to obtain information about what had happened to their loved ones and the grief and the shock of coming to terms with their losses it was just unbelievable we also know that a number of the passengers were headed to melbourne for an international aid conference with a sense of shock last night but this morning the country has woken up to the tragedy and the reality of that very high death toll from holland correspondent. francisco at the scene of the crash earlier you sent this report this morning. in these kilometers that is around is that you can see several pieces of the aircraft

the antique here said that they don't have the capability to shoot an aircraft who is in a distance of ten thousand meters the government open an investigation it's a situation that is very important and has important political connotations because here in the last days there was a big comeback between the militia. and the granny armed forces u.s. intelligence officials the very quick to say the plane was down by a surface to air missile but not specifically blamed on the side the american vice president joe biden has said that a team of specialists will be sent to assist ukrainian authorities with the investigation more from washington the reaction. is going in a church and. u.s. officials believe it was a surface to air missile that shot down the malaysian plane over ukraine the u.s.

is not pointing the blame thinker just yet president obama spoke with the ukrainian leader. we can be sure that the blame game in the coming days and weeks is going to be vicious there are questions as to who had the capability to do this the ukrainian military certainly has the capability a launch like that would require a team of specialists as we hear from many experts and there is another question why was this malaysian airline flying over the conflict zone we know that u.s. airlines had been avoiding the area for some time to size me because it was deemed unsafe what kind of instructions that this plane would see from the. well what exactly was happening inside the cockpit just moments before the tragedy hopefully we'll get more answers when investigators get hold of the black box of course one of the main questions at this point is who is going to investigate this the u.n. secretary general spoke out calling for an international investigation one of the concerns moving forward is that the investigation could eventually be politicized the blame game is for lawn in the media even before any facts have been established

. or let's cross over to live pictures right now to kuala lumpur we go away officials from the government are discussing well what happened with this malaysian plane also whether or not it was safe to take the flight in the first place let's listen in. so we know. what you know right know. you were. taken from the flight was on the record books for you and we. will indeed be one of the reasons why some agent is now there's no distress call and he's confident in the right you know i grew up in the right. group you. were. going to be limited. to the bottom of. it was going to be when he. just.

before the beginning. of the boat will be used and the exit doors. in. the room. no you just mentioned you to be as i mentioned his home in the city it would really do you good with the cave down and out of there you would do this. so he goes he got a shoe is on the wall in the. green. we see all. this. so that there is a jew with the motive we. apologize for jumping in here very quickly these are live pictures coming straight out of kuala lumpur with officials from the government discussing the demise of the malaysian aircraft m h one seven that went down in eastern ukraine officials saying that no distress call was made officials also

saying that many other international airlines were taking that exact route and there was apparently no international cause for concern what more details on this at r.t. dot com and throughout the day here or not see international. now some of the accusations against antigovernment fighters are based on a single tweet which was reportedly posted and then deleted from the social media account of the don't yet people's republic the tweet was allegedly of both from anti government forces and they're taken possession of an advanced system capable of bringing down the plane however in an interview to the ukrainian media here the prosecutor general actually denied the weapons had fallen into the hands of militants and then another allegation coming from ukrainian officials is based around what they say is an intercepted phone call between antigovernment fighters in it they purportedly admit to shooting down the plane. now if indeed this passenger jet was shot down there are a few weapons in the region with that capability one possible example is the book

surface to air missile system and several former soviet countries have the weapon including ukraine it has the ability to intercept up to twenty four targets at the same time all within a distance of forty five kilometers an altitude of twenty five kilometers in fact it's projectiles travel up to twelve hundred meters per second as of yet there is no confirmation this missile system was the cause of the crash. and aviation expert chris yates is almost certain the tragedy was caused by that of a missile strike. there are total sorry. that would indicates whether this is a missile strike or otherwise. that will be presence on the way remnants of the fuselage if when a proper analysis is done of the lines a jolly good safety record being made. for that was operating the boeing triple seven. often described as

a war of course of the skies. up until earlier this year with the law also delays in m.h. three seven zero. the line most have a serious safety related incident for some considerable number of years so there's nothing to spring springs to mind mind that could indicate that this waltz a safety related. it had to be. probably a missile strike and international investigators haven't arrived at the crash site yet but the ukrainian authorities and some western media very quick to blame anti kiev fighters for this tragedy across one of marina port nine takes us through some of the rather wild speculation in the media. a shocking tragedy claiming the lives of nearly three hundred victims before and investigation even begins the lack of

credible facts has it prevented many in the west from jumping to conclusions according to the sun newspaper the russian president is personally responsible for downing the malaysia airlines plane in ukraine and accusation some u.s. officials are doing their best to feel if it is a result of either separatist or russian actions mistakingly believing there was a ukrainian war plane i think there's going to be hell to pay and there should be there does seem to be growing awareness that it probably had to be russian insurgents now how we determine that will require some forensics but then if there is evidence pointing in that direction the equipment had to come from russia either the missile came from it's a missile that came from russia or it was from the separatists and it's a buke style bissell i mean this came from russia russia has their fingerprints all

over it either way why stop it fingers according to the daily mail russia's hands are soaked in blood some journalists conveniently camouflaged their blame with a question mark headline after headline asking if russia is to blame very few bothering to enquire about ukraine's possible role in the plane crash the new york times on the other hand reported ukraine's accusations leaving no room in this article for russia's position the u.s. nato and russia have all called for an investigation to be launched to establish the facts many media outlets have already created their narrative even if it means bypassing the truth marina port ny r.t. new york and charlie mcgrath the founder of wide awake news he believes the western media outlets rushed to choose a scapegoat. in light of the fact that nearly three hundred people just died i hate

to jump into bashing but since you asked the question i will this is a western backed regime inside a key appear cziko is absolutely put there by the united states by the e.u. by the international monetary fund they say you know like i said the ukraine is not in the forefront of the people's mind in the west it's going to be now and when i was monitoring coverage on this earlier today they give you two options for what is happening inside ukraine it's either russia or pro russian separatists fault you know they're forgetting the fact that ukraine right now the ukrainian government is showing civilians is showing in urban areas and hundreds and hundreds of civilians have already been killed and killed at the hands of the ukrainian government so you know the fact that the media is not reporting the truth on the ground is not surprising at all because this is the western media who is towing the western propaganda line keeping us updated to directly from the russia ukraine border and our correspondent every night in the sky well at this point it does seem that there

is information coming in that to be self-defense forces from the self-proclaimed donetsk people's republic that are also working on the scene in fact some of the first ones to be at the site of the crash there are reports coming in saying that they have recovered a second black box now exactly where those boxes are heading from there on is not yet clear there have been there has been information that the self defense forces wanted to transfer them to moscow for investigation so however we do know that there have been increasing calls coming in from e.u. officials from the secretary general of nato calling for an international investigation into this horrific tragedy and we also know that always c.e.o. observers are said to be heading to the site of the crash so perhaps the recovery of the black boxes is something that will take us one step closer to finding out the reasons and the actual causes off this disaster. well ukraine's army does have some history of actually shooting down civilian planes within

a culture of an hour looking back at a fatal mistake that occurred during military exercises in two thousand and one. the case has similarities to the incident indeed it happened thirteen years ago two thousand and one and two were a russian plane was carrying sixty six passengers as well as twelve crew members and was flying from tel of based in israel to. now somewhere about the black sea it happened that the russian ground control center reported that its last contact with the jets asked the plane disappeared from the reader and very shortly after it was revealed that the plane went down into the sea of course of the investigation was launched and there were conflicting reports and i do remember there was one when the pilots. are meeting in a plane that was flying above pretty much the same area as he actually saw the

russian jab before crashing into the sea and his so how the exploded the number one reason behind the incident was a possible terrorist attack that's what the investigators first thought but then it turned out that the crash happened due to ukrainian amiss that broad down the plane and that happened accidentally during military exercises military drills happening at the same time in a while basically this seems area now i have to mention that ukrainian military forces really didn't know i had quite heated the that they were at fault however international. investigation was carried out in international society acknowledged that was the fact that there was a ukrainian ukrainian mistah and that brought down that russian plane and that happened back in two thousand and one the instability and conflict in eastern ukraine so if you makes it difficult to confirm some of the claims and details that

continue to pour in here of the channel they're using what we do have however we've pieced together a chronological order for. at twelve fifteen pm local time flight m h seventy with two hundred ninety eight passengers and crew on board to call from amsterdam airport on a scheduled trans continental flight to kuala lumpur and for twenty one pm local time radio contact with the pilots of the malaysia airlines boeing seven hundred seven stopped and the jet disappeared from radar there was no warning or distress signal of any kind the jet was last recorded as an altitude of ten kilometers of eastern ukraine a region racked by civil conflict and fighting within the hour the fate of m.h. seventeen had become clear the jet had disintegrated in the air they breathe from it falling over a wide area anti-government forces arrived and secured the crash site within the hour confirming that there were no survivors by seven pm local time both kiev and

the anti-government sides had washed their hands of responsibility the government claimed that they're not carry out any anti air operations while a self defense spokesperson says that they simply did not have the weapons that could reach that higher by ten pm ukrainian time fighters in the east claimed to have found the black box the flight's data recorder promising to handed over to international investigators more again as the. some observers are saying the complexity of the conflict in eastern ukraine will make the investigation into the plane tragedy even more difficult about their pain you know variation expert julie and bright. what i can't understand is why malays you know ways allowed their seven seven seven to fly through what is a combat zone and it's flying at normal height round about thirty two thousand feet and at normal speed now there are several theories but it will probably be

a big missile that actually brought it down if it was a missile it looks judging by that it was actually hit by a missile but we can't confirm this it would have to be a large miss my understanding is that ukraine government has large missiles but the rebels only have manned packs which the missile fired on his shoulder so might have been what they would call a lucky shot and they might have seen a bleed a big black outline in the sky thinking it was a transport aircraft a military transport that is possible but i would have thought that the ground troops ground forces would have actually had radios and they would actually have a fair indication that it was a commercial airliner above them is either a horrible mistake or a catastrophic mistake or somebody clearly wanted to take that aircraft out during a phone conversation with barack obama vladimir putin called for an unconditional cease fire to be declared in ukraine with immediate effect and our reporting edward

calorie. the kremlin spokesman dmitri told the british newspaper the guardian that it's stupid to presume that russia is culpable and the president vladimir putin has said that ukraine has to bear responsibility for this tragedy it happened over ukrainian territory and if there was pace any soon ukraine then this would never happen and now this is what the president had to say earlier that we have to do everything in our capability to make sure an objective picture of what happened was made public and known to people in our country as well as the people of ukraine and the whole world what happened is completely unacceptable and no one has the right to walk away with me to give you conclusion what happened if. i want to point out that this tragedy wouldn't have happened if there was peace on the ukrainian land at least if the fighting hadn't had resumed in the south east without any doubt the

state on whose territory this happened must stand responsible for this horrible tragedy the kremlin has said that it won't make any further statements until more details are known about what exactly happened. to bring about the top of our breaking news story here on r.t. international and corpses scattered across an area covering fifteen kilometers and the aftermath of a malaysia airlines passenger plane crash in eastern ukraine on thursday all two hundred ninety eight people on board of died locals saw bodies raining from the sky and the remains of fewer than a half of the victims have been recovered this is how i witnesses describe what they saw. i saw a piece of the plane fall about four hundred meters from my apartment when i went to check it out i saw scattered bodies from a distance of looked like debris was falling but as it turned out it was people falling out of the aircraft the only deal it was terrible when i saw it first i saw

smoke and fire going the firemen started to put out the flame and. there were children too there were bodies to see here and there and the plane on route from amsterdam to kuala lumpur was a flying over part of eastern ukraine where kiev continues to wage it's very heavy crackdown on the anti government forces there the plane then disappeared from radar shortly before entering russian space ukraine's president accused antigovernment fighters of dolling the plane with a rocket calling it a terror attack but militia groups say they don't have access to those types of weapons that can actually take out an aircraft at that altitude now the nationalities of the majority of people on board the crashed malaysian airliner have been identified more than half of the passengers exactly one hundred fifty four actually were dutch and other thirty eight victims were malaysian including the fifteen crewmembers also on the plane nine britons four germans three filipinos

and a canadian. these are some of the very latest pictures from kuala lumpur as families have gathered in the country's main airport shortly after they found out what happened and many became angry demanding to see the passenger manifest desperate for news of their loved ones. so worst hit has been the netherlands which lost more than one hundred fifty of its citizens. can now reporting from the schiphol airport there in amsterdam for the very latest from the point of departure . relatives and friends would have gone to bed last night hoping that everything that took place yesterday was just a dreadful nightmare but poland has woken up this morning to nothing short of a national tragedy as you said the majority of the passengers on that flight were dutch nationals and that flight took off from here where i am in amsterdam people airport before it crashed in ukraine and the scenes we saw here yesterday absolute

devastation of the devastated passengers relatives just trying to obtain information about what had happened to their loved ones and the grief and the shock of coming to terms with their losses it was just unbelievable we also know that a number of the passengers were headed to melbourne for an international aid conference with a sense of shock last night but this morning the country has woken up to the tragedy and the reality of that very high death toll from holland. and aviation security expert richard blum he told us that while experts are figuring out all the details of the crash the incident says more about the dangers of having a war zone in eastern ukraine. i think technical experts need to document in terms of how big the debris how many pieces once burned. you can make deductions in

terms of whether there was an implosion or an explosion on the part of the aircraft and again i think this really isn't the mystery story it goes back to frankly again what is functionally a war zone and there are political issues and military issues and that's where through. again it's not a mystery it's really a question of what happens how people are affected throughout the world because of what happened in eastern ukraine. ortiz spanish correspondent francisco gator was at the scene of the crash earlier he sent this report in this kilometers that is around is that you can see several pieces of the aircraft. antique here said that they don't have the capability to shoot an aircraft who is in a distance of ten thousand meters the ukrainian government open an investigation it's a situation that is very important and has important political connotations because

here in the last days there was a big comeback between the militia and here and there or grania and forces and u.s. intelligence officials are claiming the plane was down by a surface to air missile but have not specifically blamed either side the american vice president joe biden has said that a team of specialists will be sent to assist ukrainian authorities with the investigation from washington with our teams going eighty two. u.s. officials believe it was a surface to air missile that shot down the malaysian plane over ukraine the u.s. is not pointing the blame finger just yet president obama spoke with the ukrainian leader. we can be sure that the blame game in the coming days and weeks is going to be vicious there are questions as to who had the capability to do this the ukrainian military certainly has the capability to launch like that would require a team of specialists as we hear from many experts and there is another question

why was this malaysian airliner flying over the conflict zone we know that u.s. airlines had been avoiding the area for some time precisely because it was deemed unsafe what kind of instructions did this plane receive from the ukrainian air traffic control and what exactly was happening inside the cockpit just moments before the tragedy hopefully we'll get more answers when investigators get hold of the black box of course one of the main questions at this point is who is going to investigate this the u.n. secretary general spoke out calling for an international investigation one of the concerns moving forward is that the investigation could eventually be politicized the blame game is full on in the media even before the new facts have been established. and we spoke to charlie mcgrath the founder of wide awake news he believes the western media has quickly jumped on to a very easy scapegoat. in light of the fact that nearly three hundred people just died i hate to jump into bashing but since you asked the question i will this is a western backed regime inside

a key appear chico is absolutely put there by the united states by the e.u. by the international monetary fund they say you know like i said the ukraine is not in the forefront of the people's mind in the west it's going to be now if when i was monitoring coverage on this earlier today they give you two options for what is happening inside ukraine it's either russia's fault or pro russian separatists fault you know they're forgetting the fact that ukraine right now the ukrainian government is showing civilians is showing in urban areas and hundreds and hundreds of civilians have already been killed and killed at the hands of the ukrainian government so you know the fact that the media is not reporting the truth on the ground is not surprising at all because this is the western media who is towing the western propaganda line. to our other top story today here we're not international events of certainly taken a turn for the worse in gaza after israel launches a massive ground operation and one of its soldiers has been killed it's the first

israeli military death in this part of the campaign which began late on thursday for the offensive was also left to well several palestinian casualties. that who. knows the old very well the that the. this is going. to. look at. these images right here showing the bodies of three children who were reportedly hit by artillery fire they are among that more than twenty palestinians who have died since this ground offensive began earlier on friday there were heavy bombardments across gaza with locals reporting tanks crossing the border is ready warplanes also reportedly hit a building a housing several media organizations rockets are still being fired by militants

into israel israel says its ground troops are now trying to destroy tunnels being used by hamas to infiltrate the country and harry fear has more on the situation. we understand that one of the primary objectives of the operation is to destroy the tunnel infrastructure which is used by the fighters here israel sees this as a counterterrorism operation i spoke to one of the hamas. spokespersons and they said that israel's operation will also massively result in a large number of civilian casualties and he described israel's intent towards gaza as deliberately going after gaza's civilian population it's not at the moment exactly to what scale this ground invasion or incursion is going to materialize but we do know there have been incursions into the northern area of the strip specifically at least the beit hanoun area we've also received unconfirmed reports that as a result of those incursions there have been specific casualties as

a result of those ground troops moving in. the israeli operation follows days of shellings with hamas launching rockets in return nearly two hundred sixty palestinians have been killed most of them civilians including dozens of children and there was a short humanitarian truce on thursday but the exchange of fire resumed as soon as it. but we are back in just a sec with more details from eastern ukraine the site of a tragic airliner crash. reversals

of fortune and stalemate the harder the western backed regime in camp assaults the resistance in the east the more the resistance is able to push back washington support of a military solution is flagging as well as pushing close off you where. this is about making the business survive. corporations don't love your parishioners told hate corporations have no feeling. corporations don't care about you or me corporations will occur but. people come to untouched forests and leave massively for the sake come on.

we're not going to quit we will not stop until it is done what is more precious music more moon. coal for an unimpeded international investigation after a malaysian airlines passenger jet crashes into eastern ukraine killing all two hundred ninety eight. relatives of the victims overwhelmed with grief. the netherlands alone lost more than one hundred fifty of its citizens when the boeing seven seven seven came down. the government forces are accusing each other of bringing down the plane you're an aussie international we take a close look at the blame game that's well on the way.