as international experts scour the scene of a middle aged and plain disaster in eastern ukraine accusations and counter-accusations it made but the e.u. says it remains clear walk. down. families and communities mourn the victims of the tragedy with people from at least ten countries among the dead most of them citizens. and more questions than answers r.t. talks to aviation experts to find out what's behind many all duties of the faith groups malaysian boeing over the war zone in east ukraine. also while the world is in shock over the air crash and deadly military strikes on eastern ukraine continues sixteen civilians have been confirmed dead in the city of

lugansk. thanks once again for joining us my name is the harvey and you're watching r.t. international. experts from several countries are joining an international probe into the tragic crash of a malaysian passenger jet the wreckage site in eastern ukraine is spread out over a several kilometer radius white cotton markers have been placed where the victims' bodies have been found or two hundred ninety people on board were killed among them a teacher. it's believed that the plane was shot down by a missile however the european commission says it is as yet seen no evidence to confirm this the russian president and the chancellor of germany are they have agreed on holding an international investigation into the crash

a team of monitors from europe's main security watchdog as the arrived at the scene that was on friday earlier some of them complained that local self-defense forces were limiting their movements to the area but now they have full access international experts working there say they face a difficult task telling us to get this team. but it's not our job you're not investigating the calls for the also to speculate on it but what you're here for is to see what measures are in place what is a fairly new to the security. measures and what measures have been taken to do we've seen a human and most efficient way. now allegations have emerged of an identified people arriving at the scene apparently trying to remove the bodies and loot the crash site however the monitors say some bodies have so far only been moved to the roadside and non have yet left the sites while they've refused to do or any conclusions on whether there has been any looting self-proclaimed officials in the

region claim they're not touching anything at the scene. here because they have managed to get to the scene of the tragedy while o.s.c. monitors were exploring it and he filed this report. we are now way past that's when the four hour mark that the bodies of the people that said side of the crash malaysia airlines flight have been lying around here along with the burning debris you know they always see mission had already come here the spend about an hour talking to people and scouring the area now it's not just this area that's been affected the debris and along with the bodies had falling in an area around twelve kilometers here so this is going to be lengthy lengthy process for identification and for investigation as well and right now cue to take a look at what we have seen here so far and how this tragedy had affected the

people that live here in eastern ukraine this woman who was out working in her garden when her son sold her a body had fallen from the sky and broken through the roof of their house the badly mangled victim of the malaysian airlines flight has now been laying in in this kitchen for more than a j. at first i didn't notice anything and my son went out and said mom there is a body in the kitchen there was blas to everywhere i thought it was just a pile of rubbish but then i had this too that it was a human body without a leg and was arms twisted and broken it was a man who fell out of the play and through the roof it's a murder a real motive. my wife and i were having dinner when we heard a strange noise that sounded like clapping a soon as we went out of the house we saw a body lying nearby it must have fallen from a very high altitude the only thing left on the body was a t. shirt it was

a man the legs were broken i saw practically no blood now you can smell the odor or be here there are no words to describe it here's my house and it all happened right here like i was watching t.v. i heard a roar looking through explosions i would know and saw a spinning plane without a wing with something falling out of it the area where the plane crashed is near several mines that sustain people economically in the done as krege and so it comes as no surprise that coal miners were some of the first on hand to help but the scene of the tragedy. i've lived here with my family my whole life here where the crash happened i've been working in this coal mine for forty years and now i just want to help that's all there are thirty people in our ship and just two of them went to work the others came here to help new is thought rudd says of the victims are going to be arriving here shortly and no doubt they will be seeking answers but

it seems they could be in for a quite a wait to find out just how their loved ones were taken from them from on cost or a hard see donetsk ukraine. apart from the netherlands citizens of at least nine other countries are among the victims including malaysia australia and the u.k. tributes are being paid to the victims across the world in the malaysian capital where flight m h seventeen was heading there are scenes of confusion and anger is alexy now reports. we're now here in kuala lumpur where the mh seventeen plane was supposed to land scenes on friday where he was very emotional the relatives of those who were killed on that plane crash literally stormed the airport particularly the offices of the malaysian airline company demanding the lists of those who wore on board well most of the relatives of the mh seventeen victims have already flown to ukraine to identify the bodies of their loved ones the team of investigators from malaysia also went to key of the transport minister of the country is flying there tonight he just spoke to us about the investigation about

several irregularities the authorities have noted first of all the change of altitude they confirmed that the plane changed altitude from thirty five thousand feet to thirty three thousand feet he says this is a normal practice for the world but there is no explanation whatsoever why this time the air traffic controllers in ukraine told the plane to go lower and now the regularity is the destiny of the flight recorders because we've been hearing contradictory reports coming from kiev authorities that they either had the flight recorders then they said they did not have them the malaysian authorities confirm they have no information about the whereabouts of these flight recorders which of course would be instrumental for this investigation and last but not least they've also spoken that seventy five airlines flew for the same route just the day before . the crash but still the malaysian authorities were assured by the on ground they are traffic controllers that the route was deemed safe in fact they said that several other airlines were flying the same route within minutes after and before

the crash of course a lot of questions remain and many doubts remain and they of the malaysian authorities hoping that many questions will become clearer once they get access to the crash site and be able to conduct the investigation. despite the tragedy ukraine's army is continuing its offensive in the country's east the latest attack resulted in sixteen civilian deaths will bring the world months later this hour. speaking at the white house on friday the u.s. president claimed that there was firm evidence that the malaysian plane was downed by a surface to air missile fired from territory controlled by forces he also lashed out at russia for supporting the count it's a closer look at those allegations president obama said the missile was shot from the territory controlled by separatists in eastern ukraine evidence indicates that the plane was shot down by a surface to air missile that was launched from an area that is controlled by

russian backed separatists inside of ukraine moreover we know that these separatists have received a steady flow of support from russia having said that he also added we don't know exactly what happened i think it's very important for us to make sure that. we don't get out ahead of the facts. and at this point in terms of identifying specifically what individual or group of individuals or of. personnel ordered to the strike how it came about the u.s. president called for a credible international investigation and that is something all members of the u.n. security council are calling for including russia because nobody at this point knows who shot the missile the blame game is about who created the ground for this tragedy to happen and here we see a clash of different views the u.s. says russia is responsible because it supported the rebels russia says key if it's responsible because it launched this military operation in eastern ukraine and the

u.s. supported it at this point we had this vicious back and forth between everyone involved and not involved. and here are some of the media headlines appearing in the wake of the tragedy directly blaming blood putin speculation has been piling up over who is to blame ukraine's government has issued what it claims to be a leaked phone call that's between local militia fighters admitting to downing a civilian plane and in a very fine video circulating online now this purports to show a book missile launcher being smuggled out of ukraine after thursday's crash intelligence expert charles shubert says that the claims are lacking solid evidence one could so from the outset with some investigation the air of ground from which it was launched and of course that would give an indication even though it's accepted i think is to put it much of eastern ukraine is in a fluid situation in terms of who controls what any given time the ukraine government has released what it claims are

a number of evidence should lead for example it is said that it intercepted communications it says between people on the ground that suggested that rebels were firing or how to fire to or weapons and also ukraine government has in the past said that the rebels have these weapon systems i should point out that of course the ukraine government claims hours yet one cooperated in respect of these intercepted transmissions and also of course the prosecutor general himself the night that rebels have this system so it's fair to say there's a lot of confusion at the moment and really this really points the way to the importance of a thoroughly independent and a good fellow investigation to uncover all of the leads in this case despite the accusations being made there are still more questions than answers on the catastrophe and russia's defense ministry is demanding information from kiev explains. russia wants to know why the ukrainian authorities believe that the

country's anti government forces shut down the airplane and while of the country's opposition doesn't happen air force why have deployed surface to air missiles in the area and russia is also calling on ukraine to release its records of the military tracking from the day of the tragedy hand questions have also been raised over why allow the airliner to deviate from its course and fly over the battle ground these are the crucial issues that russia's deputy defense minister believes key of should clarify for a better understanding of what caused the tragedy i would like to express deep condolences to all people. who are in this currish to want to use this opportunity to blame anybody just for the like a few questions to my. colleagues from our forces of ukraine

while the investigation continues the accusations have been thrown from every direction to every direction and every budget understands that should be done very carefully otherwise consequences could be very dramatic but still we can see that there are more questions than answers in this tragic story. and there are many unexplained details surrounding the tragedy let's take a closer look at some of them first data from the flight radar service suggest that the play diverged from its original route is the map of the courses taken by other airlines earlier in the weekend as you can see the doomed flight that went further north than any other airline is that flew over ukraine it's not clear why it took that path and secondly it's also unclear whether boeing entered the zone of heavy fighting become balance between ukrainian forces and local militia has been ongoing in this area for months now since kier of launched what it calls an anti terror up or ration in the country's east and finally ukrainian controllers asked the crew to

fly lower than the height which was originally requested that's according to a statement issued by malaysia airlines it says eight seventeen was supposed to fly at thirty five thousand feet but was instructed to go down to thirty three thousand we asked aviation expert chris yates to give us his comment. it's a brave quest. line said not being prevented from flying through this this conflict. the international civil aviation organization i.k.o. based in montreal. was the last organization to declare the as space to be safe. that presumably based on information received from the ukrainian authorities is. based in. perhaps flawed intelligence to. the weaponry that insurgents on the border

may or may not. and so. a whole bunch of questions cropping up now which we each need says we need some fairly quickly indeed. stay with us he went on to international still to come the people of gaza facing the bloody consequences of israel's dramatic escalation. hospitals overflowed with civilian victims one in five among them is a child will report on the tragic conflict after the break where the death tolls now have reached three hundred twenty.

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hello again thanks for staying with us here on r.t. now as the world's attention remains focused on thursday's horrific plane tragedy in ukraine the latest deadly army shelling of the eastern city of lugansk is gun laws and noticed it's located just sixty kilometers from where the malaysian boeing came down and these are images from the streets of lugansk shortly after an artillery attack it resulted in the death of at least sixteen people including three women and dozens more wounded local officials say sixty people have now been killed in the city in the ongoing crackdown with more details is r.t.c. . one of the major developments is that the airport has been taken over by the ukrainian army now this was one of the most highly contested area near the city and they have entered but not before inflicting heavy damage on its we're talking about shelling from air shelling with missiles and artillery fire in one instance eight

people were killed ten years three when a shell has exploded in the middle of a pedestrian crossing. basically the city has been left without electricity without running water a gas five also has been hit leaving a lot of people without access to heat for cooking purposes for example there was already talk about humanitarian catastrophe in the city of lugansk but that is happening basically right on the heels of statements made by ukrainian officials before when they were saying that residential areas are not their primary targets what's happening in the seems to be pointing in exactly the opposite direction we reached a local resident by phone here's what she told us about the attack. the city came under mortar fire warnings were issued twice during the day and we had to seek shelter on the ground according to people at the scene most victims have shrapnel wounds they were only three torn apart. also reported raiding forces have

been patrolling this city and foreign troops in residential areas. in the past couple of hours moscow issued a list of u.s. citizens who are barred from entering russia twelve americans are targeted two of them for their involvement in torture at guantanamo bay and ten others for the abuse of detainees at abu ghraib prison in iraq moscow's blacklist was released two days after the u.s. imposed a new set of sanctions against russian companies. and we have more details on the tit for tat measures on our website as well as background on how ukraine crisis sparked the dispute head to r.t. dot com for all be on. the in the. on. and it's really a man was killed in the south of the country on saturday by a rocket fired from gaza he's the third israeli fertility since the start of the

current conflict which is also claimed the lives of three hundred thirty palestinians meanwhile there was tank a machine gun fire on the border this morning as these really army stepped up its ground operation gazan hospitals are struggling to cope with the influx of injured civilians. was who she was. the work of the body that. followed. was to the. was the was. israel's ground offensive is now into its second day targeting cross border smuggling tunnels used by hamas while the stated goal is to destroy militant

capability it's palestinian civilians who seem to be paying the price at least twenty more people were killed on saturday as the i.d.f. unleashed an intense artillery bombardment u.s. president barack obama has warned israel against further loss of innocent lives of the palestinians killed since the campaign kicked off last week one in five children already fear brings us this report from gaza. thousands of troops and tanks stormed into guards there in the early hours of friday morning as israel began its so-called anti terror campaign this is the. school in central gaza city we understand that over the last few days hundreds of families have come here to seek refuge from the ongoing escalation they're living in very very difficult conditions but that conditions better than being in the stream the dangerous neighborhoods brawny or is among fifty from the to monny family who sought refuge here i didn't know them and then i'm in the she doesn't last but. what i remember

the leg was going down and pulling in there and miss smith and if you notice that the u.n. says twenty two thousand people have been internally displaced and sought refuge. facilities since this latest bout of violence began last tuesday have consistently slammed into the homes of palestinians over the last two weeks yet israel maintains it's only targeting how mass infrastructure mahmoud's home was one of those hit they've attacked your home you remember the out while i was. it's less than a kilometer away from the israeli border and near a hospital that was being targeted here in the north of the strip these refugee camps are some of the most densely populated places on earth and when the shooting

starts people here suffer more than most but despite the danger not all are heating israel's warnings to evacuate i understand that you were told to evacuate by israel why have you not evacuated. because of the. idea understand their. homes are not the only targets damaged in this escalation on friday morning three airstrikes hit an office high up in a commercial building in one of the most developed dario's of the city. and i mean. just a promise i said that i would if it is it possible that people are firing missiles from your office this morning you. might make it

easier to say here how did you get. well we're filming in the center of the city for rockets fired just behind us from a well known local military. the israeli prime minister has given orders to the israeli army to escalate its ground operations in the gaza strip palestinians here remember all too well the bloodiness of the winter two thousand and eight now an invasion of the gaza strip this a month of ramadan a time that is meant to be peaceful palestinian muslims simply pray to god to protect them and their families harry fear r.t. . the israeli ground operation followed an egyptian brokered truce which allowed some aid to reach garza however that only lasted for five hours before exchanges of fire are resumed and my colleague you know neal spoke with alarm a stain deputy spokesperson of the israeli foreign ministry and we asked her why

the ceasefire and it so quickly. egyptians initiated a ceasefire and we respected it and we didn't shoot and guess what i'm shooting rockets at us and then that was a humanitarian ceasefire and we wanted the people in gaza to receive medical help to receive food through all kinds of supplies they need and the hamas still kept firing at us surely your government for saw this huge terrible human cost fortunately yes you have one side who wants violence more violence and more death and you have us who are asking them please let's stop it even though this is very risky for us they're firing on you because they think you're firing on them first we're looking at this huge loss of life it is clearly an palestinians the pictures we've been showing and better spreading around the world by stepping up the operation aren't you simply pushing in this into a spiral of violence that who knows when it could end we don't want the violence but unfortunately this is hamas is mission just more and more vital k.y.

the more that's fine and i just remember one thing the u.n. international law israel is obliged to protect civilians in the occupied territories doesn't this violate what you're doing the responsibility you have towards the palestinians yes we have a responsibility. to civilians in general and that's what we do before we attack we have flyers that saying that we're going to attack and this and sometimes we also abort missions you can look it up in our in our web sites we we have pilots actually a boarding missions because they're told that their children nearby and even though the next day this can be mean that these places are going to launch missiles at us . well the c.n.n. news network told its correspondent from covering the israeli palestinian conflict up to she tweeted that israelis with cheering as they watched palms land in gaza she later deleted that message spent on the four did already been retreating two hundred times comes up for another american network n.b.c.

will say we need this correspondent in the same region without explanation three more on a story visit our website. all. day with us next on this explores how the malaysian plane catastrophe is being politicized in global media some breaking news seven if you're watching us from the u.k. it's time for going underground in the booming corporate surveillance industry. if there's anything we're afraid of in the modern western world is an al qaeda or aids or something like that it's words just words especially on the internet morning radio shock jock the cumia from the opie and anthony show has been fired for a massive twitter rant that he made against a woman who believe that the radio host was taking mocking photographs of her and got aggressive with them who may claim to just be taking pictures of time square

now normally what you do outside of work shouldn't matter but with public personalities i can see how people want them to have good behavior all the time but the problem is that guys like him are put on the airwaves to have bad behavior what does the sirius x.m. company expect from people they put on air to be wild and raunchy this is typical corporate boardroom mentality well we want morning gigi's to be really crazy and shocking but not too crazy and sure hey i don't have a horse in this race i actually think the opie and anthony show is pretty dismal but when i see someone getting fired for wacky shock jock stuff that is in a way kind of part of his job well it just seems very hypocritical to me but that's just my opinion.

well going to break in a set i'm abby martin so yesterday the world witnessed a truly horrific tragedy unfold in eastern ukraine malaysian airliner was shot down killing two hundred ninety eight human beings on board one of the passengers were humanitarians on their way to an aids conference in australia unfortunately the media coverage from all sides has been truly truly disappointing within hours the sun immediately declared the missile as putin's and neo cons were given a platform across corporate media to seize upon the tragedy and resurrect cold war fervor urging the west to quote confront the russian regime look speculation on all sides in the mere hours after any large scale disaster is a poor and irresponsible journalism and does a great disservice to the two hundred ninety eight victims of this crime.