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at least allows some political diversity your political system is affecting us such is the respect for that old call any way you're speaking to me from is that both political leaders of the main parties year of high of president obama's advisers david axelrod and jim messina i think that was the guy ten years ago was involved in a. homophobic campaign in montana or maybe that's the other way the idea is a politician is that what we need is that glamour and gloss of american political intrigue it's not helping both bodies deeply unpopular apathy never being a polling turnout at the most recent council elections so despite all of your wonderful obama white house people coming here probably a great expense being paid for by party members on the tories and the labor benches . they fail to enthuse certainly young people and more and more people generally
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in this country. are. journalist thank you for coming on break you know a lot about down. thanks for watching you guys are sure to follow me on twitter at abbey martin join me tomorrow night break all over again. so. we can. choose the. choose. choose the stories to. choose.
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when i grew up. demeans a forest on. my playground. i knew it intimately. people say this for just quiet or a. forest. music in the forest. music is in the tree. when you cut down the street stream making a thousand each i was. all that means is that tree is seeing in
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a thousand different places.
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greenpeace has been campaigning on forest issues around the planet for a long time and when we came into alaska we were willing to get arrested for our cause. the option at this point is for folks to worry the longer you stay the higher degree of law enforcement is a bit of it will just carry the remains of the. soul when we showed up in southeast alaska formally as an with a gigantic ship that said greenpeace on it with a rainbow certainly miss apologies and certain power players were very hostile to
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us. this many reasons to want to protect the southeast alaska. these are ancient forest that have been evolving for thousands of years and they're being clear cut. clear cutting is the practice of taking every single tree. so what is left is stumps for as far as the eye can see. the majority of logging over the last five or six years actually takes place on private lands. most of it native corporate lands. and the majority of that caught has actually bad sea alaska logging corp. by.
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but i had no use for greenpeace but i am familiar with greenpeace from my whaling days and they didn't have the greatest reputation with indigenous people. i think. we've had a not necessarily a confrontational relationship but it's it's had its ten small months with with greenpeace. a clear cut. they will justify why they clear cut but that's what they do that's what we're trying to stop. our relationship to the land and our relationship our cultural value says that we
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review and but we also utilize the land. they won't listen to me unfortunately they wouldn't listen to me. and so greenpeace decided to send a year of true documentary crews covering. what products are made from these species. and lo and behold we noticed a very sliver of a supply going to very famous musical instrument manufacturers.
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well these are said to spruce tops. very light there and strong. to make a fantastic soundboard guitars. i've been making guitars for thirty five years and ten years into it i realized that i was going to see the disappearance of some species of would happen in my lifetime. the six generation chairman and c.e.o. of my family's business the martin guitar company. this is a d forty five and what's amazing to me gold ninety one of these are the world works through my grandfather would have been involved in the manufacture of this not only do we have one but two i've never been in the same room with two printers martin the forty five's at the same time adirondack spruce top brazilian rosewood
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back and science the top of our line this one is nice if you happen to know of. one hundred sixty five thousand dollars in your wallet. guitar builders chose the woods they chose before my family got in the business of making guitars those woods were then extremely exotic imagine trying to get ebony from africa and rosewood from brazil but no one has since found any better woods. they nailed it. the great woods that that are the terrorists are made out of we have to ensure that that wood is available so that we can continue to to offer people a great musical instrument. one of our historic and most
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successful gibson acoustics ever is a j two hundred it's just got it a unique sound but beautiful safe to spruce top is as you can see just gorgeous and you can you can hear the tonality of it as i as i lightly that it's just beautiful . prior to us convening the initial meeting i think they all die as a crazy person. you know jokingly i remember saying to them we're not going to ram a boat into a tree are you was i a member of greenpeace you know no i mean as a sort of doing my saying you know i've got stained hands i use this word we all do it i want greenpeace showing up on one front or no but i came and i met these people ok so we'll try. and use of this. surely there is that ship. as you feel whole
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year old construct. selfless love. they said well we've taken a look at what's going on in alaska and based on the rate that they're cutting these big trees if they don't stop and take a deep breath and think about this they're going to cut the last tree in our lifetime. and that caught me up i mean what they asked was would we be willing to form a coalition to help the talk was a native american corporation which we had no idea existed. in this corporation is called c alaska. we're due to day to see if we. are as. they said would you mind helping to try and at least have everyone sit around and talk about slowing down the rate of harvesting this clear cutting that's
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going on before it is too late this is about making the business survive. greenpeace scheduled a one week vote of the entire southeast alaska region. my boss came to me and said hey nick we have this opportunity we've been working with the music would coalition and they're actually going to go as a group up to see would you mind going for me going to spend a week in alaska and i said well i guess i could suffer through that if you really need me to. and when i realized who i was with and the conditions they were going to be and i was pretty overwhelmed frankly. i was with
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a bunch of competitors selling around the thomas national forest and i was concerned by how they might act towards me. we saw some pristine uncut force there the biggest trees i had ever see there's kind of a wow factor to that. there's a pupil trees up there that you could build out and say a prayer underneath. probably shed a tear while you're doing it. but these guitars are made up of a tree to fill so now that's beautiful and. their house to be a win win in there and that's the trick for me i just had a whole new appreciation for for nature and what a what a gorgeous area the sea alaska folks have there.
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and. the future. economic ups and downs in the final months they should learn to deal sang i and the rest because i take it will be everything going on for me. right from the scene. from the first street. and i think picture. on our reporter's twitter. and instagram.
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to be in the know. i wonder if allegations of propaganda also represent a form of propaganda because what you do is essentially dealing to my i think the fourth without looking at the context without looking at this problem and found the information. that is what i think the real problem i think that the political columnists paid to play which distorted the reporting on the whole don't be a crime crisis i think to a certain friend. on the left me on the side. you know i think we have almost you know i'm basically sourcing the whole of the reporting in florida and i think there's a need for that more to have a pump and discussion about. the
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tongass national forest is the largest initial force the united states. is the largest on fragmented walk. coniferous temperate rainforest left in the world. i'd say arguably it's one of the most important if not the most important national forests. these trees have a real value ecological value in the ecosystem services they provide. they are very important for a lot of wildlife species for things like water habitat and salmon reproduction.
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that biodiversity is is priceless it's disappeared from so many places on the planet. and. these big trees here are sick of spruce and they're probably between three to six hundred years old and they can't easily. the recreated. the really big trees the really large spruce stands like this that were really targeted by logging only a small fraction of those are left. if you can imagine an entire landscape like this being logged the scale is announce.
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the first impression i had was don't know what these environmental us are talking about because all i see is trees trees and trees and trees and trees and then we went our lab and all i saw was. trees cut as far as the eye could see. and you realize oh. you could really cut those trees down it's possible. but i inquire well how long did it take to harvest this section that's as vast as could be over five years like wow just a huge impact on all of us we just kind of sat there with our jaws open. all it was was a little bit of green grass and mud and
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a bunch of stumps things and pieces that were kind of cut. i had never seen clear cutting anywhere before and the next question i asked myself was why would somebody do that. we need to convince the sea alaska board of directors not implementing sustainability program because that could easily supply our industry with wood for the foreseeable future. so after seeing the effects of clear cutting boy i mean we were just convinced that we really had to take a stand. my . this isn't. easy. we want to
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carry the rooms we want everyone to know. that this is our year. and the guitar industry first approached us we were to certain what they were all about. we got acquainted with the coasts and wanted to help regulate how we were logged. i could not see past them here if i own the whole. then nobody outside my home should come in and tell me well this is this is the way you'd better run your house you know. it was kind of like we were here to find out why you're clear cutting i think how we were perceived and maybe we actually felt a little bit that way so the questions came out about will help us understand why
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you clearcut. see alaska flew us all over in helicopters for us to understand their forestry operations for you to fly down to challenge straight away to dry ground good. food is the stewardship there why this life that go here. that thing this different here in southeast alaska as compared to other for us is. this region was largely undeveloped.
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it's not a deforestation thing it's here it is a harvest thing it is changing the ecology. we use clear cut logging because it's cost efficient it's just that the in terms of recovery of all you know. we can take more volume out and have it be all be economic we have a responsibility to provide some sort of economic support for our communities and it has affected our forest management harvest and our harvest. we use words like harvesting but i prefer to view it as mining because i believe that in order to harvest something you have to have been engaged in growing it. i don't believe that you're harvesting trees. by definition that are grown for
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eight hundred years because you know many caves you don't. have anything to do with that. this is something that i really think we need to talk about for guitar would. be the practice of fair cop chambre harvest and se is something we're going to have to do and i'm just going to say that on a corporate plane. the economics there's a whole bunch on the street that's just so that is a management issue and. when we i'm going to show you a fannie study pixel he said he'd look at it from our point of view to create. to make a guitar top we need a three hundred fifty year old six first tree so it might behoove you to think about saving some of those trees so that we can see to use those many years in the
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future because the trees really valuable to us. you can't uncut those trees. can always come back and cuddle which can uncover. this is all about relationship building on all sides three different cultures coming together environmental culture in the business culture and the theological perspective. so the relationship has evolved from an inch by inch and a kind of culminated and celebration which the last corporation. organizes and runs saying get high and. stand c.n.n. . people of the land welcome to celebration we have
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some special guests among us almost every guitar has a seal as spruce on the top and these people came a long ways at our invitation. bob taylor taylor guitar i have a taylor guitar. martin guitar i hear great things about this guitar. it's got tall someplace thank you for being here and if we had the time we'd ask for a little concert but i'm not so sure that we have the time. we look forward to reconnect to our eye and sisters and celebrating who we are as clean get hired and since yeah and. live.
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you have to remember that our people all were brutally forced to assimilate to western culture. people like myself or adopted kidnapped from our homes and put into schools where we would learn the american way the capitalist way.
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people were suffering and. there was great hope around the development activities and corporations. not. that we didn't want to make profits we had wanted to make profits. but i would say we'd never had complete faith in decision among our people. i have never seen any money returned to this economy. through town here there's no economy in developed it's strickly or resource extraction. and liquidation. so wasn't for us sneaking out and maybe here in sand.
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everywhere. they don't have to rely on that. but do they care that we believe so because they're going to be taking all the temblor that supports all the spam and. joining the corporation shouldn't be confused with. being part of a culture. it's outrageous sale have any real core values i mean whether it's that is to say are going to go trim down the whole country i mean and then watch. the forest lying grew up with this and there are going to be there again. my children will never be a mostly experience it. expects the liberals are ok really could throw some of our
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trees but we're going to make sure that we rebuild our land back to something like world one. we haven't been able to do that. the people aren't in control. the dividends that were you see from seal outskirt certainly muslim that. provide me with a living room. when i have no oil slick. we see twenty three thousand acres cuts and. four soloists that breaks our heart. to see that it hurts.
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