world. science technology innovation called in these developments from around russia we've got the future covered. feel when i see a ship playing with all the trees. makes my heart break.

because there's nothing left to take it they're going to come back far more. corporations to love corporations told hate corporations have no feeling. corporations don't care about you or me corporations quick profit. we're going to visit with and we're going to keep trying to see if we could come to

a mutual come so it's a song a lot of things because it's so important to us. began to visit i mean we still don't know what it was all about this is where gibson makes that stuff finest the most expensive instruments are housed in this building you'll you'll love it clarence if you're a guitar guy it's pretty special we have a unique opportunity because we're making musical instruments. but it's a very aggressive goal trying to get a big corporation to change the way they look at this business practice. you know. it's never been all civility in the history of the world that i know where the property or the

wood grows is tribal so that someone should say well we couldn't we couldn't come up with a management plan that could last generations into the future and if we have anything else to get it to me it's a bunch of told you that the lives of five other species just in the last one hundred fifty years this one has a chance to. b b there are special. and then i came in one place and i think it was taylor and i left there and i saw you know a wall fall. and i was you know i was really blown away at the role that our resources played in the music industry. is a very. it was i think. they have work they have a. reason to be concerned about good would you all believe how

beautiful and i don't want to be. you want to tell us how to do things. bring us some kind of an economy but the order place what we want to do bring us in a car economic plan and there are three ways everybody's got an issue in our threesome greenpeace we're trying to save this forest the guitar guys they want music quality sitka spruce forever seal asco wants to be a profitable company where is the common ground the common ground is over the resource so we brought to the table the forest stewardship council the f.s.e. as a solution for the f.s.e. is basically that seal of approval for good forest management it's got the fs c. logo you're trying to impact this forest as little as possible but still be

profitable and there's there's a hope that there's a greater cause there are you guys to set up in the fall at a future not only that is via a good business and. i think you want to know where i think it is a that's all israelis for all your hospitality are there races or maybe we're going to go back home and think about our would take action is that i have to stress it does have to me. economically meaningful for us humans are you interested.

the music would coalition does exactly what we hoped it would do which was bring a sense that a. beauty. to the whole thing. my understanding is that c alaska like no way that that raw material was transformed in to something that has a history and heritage it is part of culture. we use twitter blogs

in europe it's not very much. a fraction of a percent. but we seem to be probably a lion's share of the prize and so we're helping maybe cast a vision for that. you know where you see what that would becomes or something that resonates in people's hearts about music about musical instruments and it becomes important. i think one of the kind of fundamental assumptions of this campaign was

that if we get everybody in the room at the same time and you know metaphorically lock the doors there's a lot of common interest if the campaign is going to succeed is still anyone's guess but there are. other politics plays in the tongass. we have a bill in congress tried to true. final settlement toward a. large. area

that generate the. public interest legislation the. day on the. most. creating the distressed. harvest practices in their forest practices. in the position. nearly out of trees now. say well you should have cut all those trees or should the fast well maybe we would not have been able to advance maybe people's interests. as we have if we had done some of that. the chamber is coming to a halt if we don't receive the final settlement from congress.

and we have to we need help to do that which i just told on our own. when. you're. feeling. thank you all for coming very very briefly a little bit about see alaska where they are where they said to spruce we'll give you an update on this u.s. because land bill they have approached you in the past and they will approach you again basically seeking congressional you know your your support i think that our coalition has probably moved from a posture of i don't know if i trust these guys to. i think i do trust these guys at least that's our best bet to get where we're wanting to go if you agree with

that from greenpeace point of views. from the greens who just want to do it have to make it is you know if it's risky and again it is up to each individual corporation depending on their personal opinions to decide what level to support this i know that they have been on a journey and they're in a place now that's light years away from where they were. last october f.s.e. forestry professionals went up to southeast alaska and utterly blindsided i think we're still in the game i'm a business standpoint if they can pull this off they want to do it i think the news and see alaska and the progression of this certification process. is encouraging still a lot of work to be done each meeting it's great because we move a little bit closer to a resolution there's a time factor there that we it's an unknown but we hope we can get something done

soon. the auditors came in from the sea and we spent weeks with them flying around everywhere to be able to see what is doable and what is not doable. they've given us a plymouth report and we're now in the process of evaluating now. the biggest challenge that we face is the sustainability equation and because we don't have all of our land and we don't have all of our conveyances we're really in this kind of incomplete position. see alaska prepare the overview and it boils down to sort of one thing and that's clear cut if there can be a meeting of the minds and a negotiation that allows the clear cutting to be smaller this is going to be the crux of the matter if it were going to be no we're going to go in and just take it

all down the way we've always done and we don't really want to modify that plan that might be. a deal buster. i wonder if allegations of propaganda also represent a form of propaganda because what you do is essentially diligent to my i think this force without looking at the contacts with al looking at this. case and that's not what i think of a real school problem i think it's a political culture to play which to school to the old old old old ukraine crisis i

think to a certain friend. like me on the side either you are the only thing to be able to last you know i'm basically sourcing the whole of the reporting. i think there's a need for the whole discussion about. please.

crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want. it up there to attend the tree ceremony and of course it was an opportunity for us all the. future of the project. because the clock is ticking.

but she made it and i'm sure it is all right good deal nice to be here that's. the only way it was ever going to work is for everyone to try to get through all the. that every side says. seems like maybe between eighty and ninety or ninety five. yeah are sitting still and when you say yourself said. martin and taylor. group some thank you very much for coming here. there are family all still there came a long ways to see how we do think we're going to fall a tree today. forest spirit. lissome.

turn your ears toward me. she should like to call her to say thank you. how could you pray over all those trees are going to cut down some more of her career. than the prayer.

you created for me you have that ideal life doing that tree. and your thank you note for those uses. one with a preamble and they're praying over on my street. down you know how can you. please. thank you so much all of you for coming. there's been an awful lot of times or i bit my tongue to the point that i think. because this is always a bonus but a very delicate campaign. and if. you're not be sure or if you're truly grimacing. you know you can drink. in any number of ways.

with the guitar guys care about it is the best see certification. and that's what we haven't discussed. at all. since i don't know where the no we are. after the seal ask a tree ceremony i think the relationship hit a speed bump. and greenpeace decided that we were going to start opposing the sea alaska land bill. we did this because of the only that matters is the forest we have not been able to have a good conversation and i went there environmental us where we could really talk about this. when their bill was being put before congress

pretty much the entire environment community signed a letter in opposition to that particular bill. and we're greenpeace and at the end of the day we we have to call them as we see them i'm just i'm just not happy with environmentalists they just don't understand i don't understand that i really don't i'm not going to say that you know. some of them would rather drink poison them. get certified we talked to them and we've been forthright and all of our plans we've come to them and said this is what we're going to do or how i hate to say after. we've said it. played cop white man speak with forked tongue.

from the news channel five just what. the company well known for helping make music is striking a different chord with federal investigators agents strong several gibson guitar locations today as part of an illegal implored investigation the company is under investigation for allegedly importing protected wood from madagascar an island nation off the coast of africa and by mentalists a evony and rosewood trees have been also harvested and are now in danger federal agents john gibson's masterman road plant and its headquarters agents spent the entire day seizing guitars wood and other items even though charges have yet to be . illegal logging is tied to some of humanity's worst places.

the drug trade civil war slavery. it's an evil scourge and it finds its way into the international marketplace. the fact that it is gibson guitars a member of the go allision are also long. the irony was this was blighted. absolutely it was it was a shock. i think it shows that that. main times the issues that you face. are pretty pretty big. we are verifying you know the filth the legal origin of of all the

with that we use. we have a law that protects endangered species and if it separates the legitimate operators from those that consciously or unconsciously were supporting illegal logging that's a good thing. if they did it they you know you if you do the crime you gotta do the time. that makes the dynamic more difficult for the music good collection. now nobody is supposed to talk. we have not talked with anyone in the coalition and i probably won't until there's a resolution.

as far as. i have to tell you that my my sense is that there is confusion and disarray at this point. i. think it's terribly frustrating you know because i thought we had some momentum i thought we had some agreements we haven't moved any further with f.s.b. we've gone through the the plumber very work we still remain very interested in going green right now where just focusing on our land legislation the guys who are supposed to be working on for a certification have been to our our legislation the land will be.

the most preeminent issue for us and so we're not going to quit we will not stop until it is done. now it seems like yeah yeah yeah well just wait just wait it's like well what are we waiting for what are we waiting for these i think they're two separate issues you know can't you can't you do more than one thing at a time but there are it's really not my decision. i'm in a kind of an awkward point now where greenpeace has to do. so maybe you know we have to. formally. let the coalition go. but in force informally i think i can just pick up the phone and we can get the band back together.

i for six years ten years or so fig trees left for italy now with the land that they have. and. that's right around the corner. though i will say that guitars are simply going to change i'm going to make another little news flash for all you guitar players out there a beautiful two piece top that you have with really perfect grain perfect is perfect that. that's a bit of vanity that we're going to all have to shed here pretty soon. well when we have to live for us we so that life. and there are rules and laws and the protocols that govern all these things. you

may know now how do we get from there or here. we need to go with inner selves. and come out as we were before. we need to gain their respect to be used for everything.

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