what happens when you find yourself at war at a very young age because of the stuff was that. when he was captured by the mujahideen in afghanistan ended up spending twelve years in war torn country serving as a personal bodyguard of the most powerful anti taliban leader ahmad shah massoud how did he go from captive to brother in arms what made him go native and why did he come home to rush out years later well nic i was strongest here in the studio to tell us his personal story. twenty five years ago the troops left afghanistan some soldiers however stayed behind captured in a forum unsure of who is friend or foe stuck between two worlds what does it take to change sides in the war how can you survive in captivity and can you ever. welcome to the show thank you very much for finding time your story is amazing and

i know that you also go by another name. that's an islamic name which you consider your home country afghanistan or russia i have two home nations. russia is my first home the real one but i see afghanistan as home now as well. as you were only eighteen when you were sent to afghanistan did you realize where you were cooling and what you would face once you're there still needs. i knew nothing until they sent us to a boot camp in turkmenistan after six months in the boot camp they told us we were going to afghanistan. when you were told that you were happy there did you have any idea what it would be like they told us there was war were realize that afghanistan was another country but we had no idea what real war was like of course we were

curious to see it with our own eyes but when we got there it was like we're on a different planet with all the mountains and gunfire around us and first we were intimidated but still we were curious to experience war firsthand because prior to that everything when you about war came from books like little boys but i did not see any action i was on guard duty had bugs air base of course so you were at this base yes that's right for how long about six months but if you were at the base the whole time how did you get captured we went on leave if we headed to a nearby village to get some fruit without permission on our own would already have been there a couple of times before and it was fine but on the fourth time we were caught in an ambush we were walking along the street and a few afghan boys ran up to us saying sure i'll be sure i'll be which means soviets we asked them where the local store was where we could buy something and they said it's over there we can take you there and then as we were walking at some point

they disappeared did they like to you and i mean why did you trust them we never imagined little kids could trick us into an ambush that i would trust of them and it up captured how did it happen there were three of you yes that's right and how many people did they have they had many people there were two groups in the area immediately one of my friends was wounded in both legs another one was wanted and i was wanted as well and they surrounded us with their assault rifles and they kept shooting over our has to keep us down and they started yelling at us. telling us to get up and walk i could walk and my friend could walk but the other one the one who was wounded in the legs could not walk and they killed him so there was nothing we could do so they've they just tracked your way to an unknown direction they took us to a village there were two groups there so they divided us one took me and the other took my friend so you were left all alone among afghan which i had seen and they

too cute to their camp and what happened next what was it like what does a camp look like i was terrified the fear was a lie felt they all had beards turbines on their heads armed with rifles yelling at me in their language the first things they showed me in the village were the bodies of soldiers and officers they had executed just lying there in the square i couldn't understand what they were seeing but i knew from the gestures that they were telling me that the same thing would happen to me so you think it's the end of your life and yes i thought i was going to die because look up with then they started moving me from village to village at night and i started thinking that we have to they won't kill me behalves they would ask for ransom. and where do they keep you. initially when they captured me in parwan province they kept me in a shed by. sometimes they would put me in a pit and then they took me to puncher and then. they took

me to a village called luck that's where i met their leader masoud. they brought me to him and i was standing there exhausted bleeding with dirty and bloody bandages my teeth broken. they took me into a yard there were a lot of people sitting there a lot of people with special one of the mujahideen who used to be an engineer spoke a little russian he told me say hello to these people and i don't know why but i saw one person who looked different from others or there were about thirty to thirty five people there i don't know why i don't know how to explain this but he looked different so i walked straight to this man to greet him first. apostle. and this was a much address it at that point i didn't know it was him. i thought i just thought i should say hello to their leader first and then two others when i approached him

they grabbed me and pulled me back the guy who spoke russian asked me why did you go to him first so i said he seems to be the most important person here i just thought i'd to greet him first and that's when masood left and told them to let me go they let me go and i said hello to him and then i went around the yard and greeted everybody. that's right how were you treated did you eat decently or where you've beaten and starved to death did they treat you like a slave. i don't know why but the beating stopped after that incident they let me get washed up gave me some clothes bandaged my wounds fed me and took me to a house where i lived it was only later that i think it out that this was the house of my suit himself and all those people thirty to thirty five of them were all muscles guests. well what did they tell you that you were going to die but they didn't tell me anything. and as days passed i started hoping i would

survive which of us is your life after you met my suit changed right. well it didn't happen overnight. i was captured during the first punch air offensive. it was followed by the second offensive when soviet troops and pro-government forces attempted to bring the puncher valley on the control. that's the plane and then called his field commanders from all the provinces and told them to bring their prisoners to punch air. there were six of them but if and i was number seven. i was relieved to see some fellow russians. it was good not to be alone because we didn't know what was going to happen next told the prisoners why a translator the war is about to start i decided to set you free you can go

wherever you like to the us iran pakistan switzerland or elsewhere it's your free now everyone was happy. he just wanted to say you're free. they sent everyone to pakistan first and then to other countries. so all of us prisoners got together there were russians turkmen and uzbeks. but we didn't trust each other we never revealed our real background or one guy told me his name was son and that he was from ukraine but that wasn't true and when you know i am originally from the crust and our region but i told him i was from ukraine in my name was no straw of the sea. and we didn't trust each other so all the guys said they were ready to go to pakistan. and some wanted to go

to switzerland and france. only me and another guy stayed with me but you did you stay like being a prisoner in afghanistan. in those days. soviet prisoners of war fear they would be treated as traitors if they came back home so i was afraid anyway i still had hope that one day i would return and that's why i didn't want to go to any foreign country that i knew i was soviet troops were still fighting in afghanistan. where message and the other was heading surprised by our decision that yes it was when the second punch air offensive was launched and must suit told the local population in the pan share valley to move to the north of ghana stand on something he followed them and i went to the living he had five bodyguards they were old afghan men and i was his sixth bodyguard. by the time he told you be

my bodyguard here for do the job. know as we were approaching the mountain pass he gave me a gun about. a month or so was a show of confidence in you. probably so he gave me a gun and told me i would go with him. up with that was quite a long and steep pass. i was the first to climb it and so i said down on a rock and waited for them to catch up but they were going really slowly they go about twenty steps and then rest for a while and then continued and suddenly an idea flashed in my mind i decided to check the ammo. and i think the magazine in the rifle and additional magazines were full with a massive one hundred twenty cartridges. and the gun was in

good condition. and then i saw the flares of signal guns which men saw the troops or pro-government forces were near in the precincts and they were busting a preterist in the courts and then i thought maybe i should meet them. it's going to interrupt our programming to bring you this it's a press conference being held by russia's defense ministry officials are making a statement on the deadly crash of a malaysian airlines flight this seventeen tense let's listen there's only. seven sound sounds. of if you give me one and then you've got someone who looks a little thought holding up to do it that it was going to use it for the next year please pay attention there to do me a ski area the aircraft even did determine corridor and down each deleted

from its route to the north. really don't look similar we're going to need a little are going to be good or just the nose just a little to do it and the next indonesian from the let's move to all the corridor was fourteen kilometers. but then usually. when you're. doing a pretty deal or with all of. them we can see the point seven seven trying to make him and you are back to the determent air corridor. zuck want to hear much of the one your mother used to keep watching the news bill battle the militia and crew didn't succeed to accomplish this maneuver. soon enough or to lose you dear so if you feel that was good year for my dear one of the some of the loves of lots of issues like you know new people follow the circle of rights

you get another whole five hours twenty in a speech the stupid fall of an aircraft we'll see it was fixed and five hours twenty three pm the any aircraft disappeared from the wanted to arse off russian red arse. who appreciated. the going is a process but if you can lead a ship to deposit a billiard ball here glasgow would just be a jerk we're going to tell you what. was medication that was fully want us all the cream and if a control system in the appropriate tools we can't ask these right now we can only house up after us decoding all the flight recorders so-called black boxes and we go with the a.t.c. service. bunch of dummies who didn't do shit and well as years go boy and get. rid

of all those books like obama. seal grainier museum one of the new let's shoot the bullet preacher pretty near but i keep it he didn't want to know but it's up there my dear i couldn't tell that dave's at the day of the aircraft's accident the demolition boeing seven seventy the forces all the anti aircraft just sounds all the offices of the great close to the dome this area can see it's it's all streets or for anti aircraft. defense battaile help leaves and one. if you're building seven was hit one of the silly not that it's a good thing to do if you do you're one of the. bigger bullets or tear the feeling of this system can strike the targets only a distance of up to thirty five kilometers and up to twenty five kilometers away

and as you. let you. go through it we're going to miss you we're going to those little good english and have a good worker but if your vocal about women leave you then you're. near the real thing why and against whom did the ukrainian forces deploy such power and take the aircraft to sounds close to doing it. we know that rebels have no. not skinny. but also some of the out there to people again way me of the photos here boy i'm good but. here's the you gotta keep it cool pics of one of you see you here. on this big show we can see there the leg of the flight and the supposed place the destruction of the aircraft are situated in the area of alteration. of antique aircraft missiles system book and while all the armed

forces of ukraine love you needed to cause major cities here i didn't eat meals to follow here syria particularly no but a woman who plays the part of me now you got me we have some space shots oh the places where the air defense systems of the ukrainian art forms are situated in the sounds eastern pratt's of the country. the other major cities the impair the cuban it due to the bounce of them you're the first really picture so short so i did leave the fourteenth of july. here because a man will go where you have to look you're like your polo complex a book what are you in there. watching you on your turf sit on a supper near the belt on the first big chair you can see the watch it sees time for and to hear cried miss i'll see some book and run it eight kilometers

knows easton from who got us. here knows less than two from the gods let. some of. you deal with because it is very sure question we can see directly self proper auld launching systems to see some full already. love don't you care where we read it here but i deal with your coolness dancer. believe you're one of the new york you are here to syria. now the second show what you can see relocation assistance all the air defense. as a kid but kilometers to the north from donetsk most can't get give me. a call next dance or a target or another legionnaire. little bit on this shot you can see two

relocations systems and equipment not didn't seem clear. what cousin or. was he afraid of oil while you're sitting there then you're on the surface short you can see the position of big air defense equipment to the nose from doing it. let's give you could a feel good enough so horner knew why it was going north or why the little people struggling with the mocha walkable shifted if you do you can use a lot of the legionnaire when you're married he spits on it here quick you're. here to carry your gear give me just use of it here you get clear is the self. acquiring see some with smooth washing see you can see sixty pieces of various equipment and their equipment i

would sneak here the most are you are dealing with a few months of the work you did this is a shot of this same area but this shot was made on the sale inches of july but i didn't have the money or the dung or would go with the local a full foot you can see that these sloshing system is absent on these shores. yet. i don't. know what you're missing you will never. look into this if you let your pride. then you'll hear your voice meet you and your partner's near shock of nose in that but that. all these pictures number five you can see that by the morning of this same day in the area of the russian scare there is situated eight kilometers to the south from south to

arsk and five kilometers to the east from donetsk here you can see the battery in anti aircraft missile system situated with regard to the pool but you move what they hear because i was with my unit who believe the jury to hear come to you the way of all children. are not. so now we have to question why these batteries situated here in this area close to the territory controlled by the rebels and so close to the tragedy so you're here. you want to preserve you in there with you most of the what you would most of the shit. show but that here is a new one won't run your budget. and another shorts down on eighteen of july shorts of the same area we can see there the better to let these position

right before. government i would even like see most of them you're not simona well those lucky in d.c. are most of what it used here but i didn't look at for an extensive period this was the let's see who vote in my view the new public will bring civil. besides by the seventeenth of july they maximal at the ration over the ukrainian regular cations stations all for a cold night as eighteen. reached its maximum. must learn where needed to get lots of them but you're still a simple answer. you can see here in this picture that on the fifteenth of july seventh station board just lots of the what you would have within as small sixteenth of july eight stations worked i see much of the way you would have you here and on the seventeenth of july ninth stations worked i would say let's see

much of the unit you did see him a sort of water but i built a full extensive real space museum as you could get and also thought he would have the full clear and from the eighteenth of july there peroration solve the u.a.d. locations she sensed in this area broke down sharply and now we're only two or three systems poor d.d. working in this area she does the other night you show but its value to the outside so we need to find out what is the reason for these fact i didn't hear her deal with what they wanted to do they were done with all of those look up the north of where you were there ten years ago with a dear and i would like to control the use you assign a date on the. situation in the area of don't ask for that day. it was like that with video if you're done with a big you know computer field see i'm not sitting here bush you must set you free

to do what must cause the motive in this picture you can see the day itself objective control and during the period from five pm till six pm mosco time what the field would look at or look at it was fear of love get someone on your ship he would out of it is during this time there were three civilian aircraft making the regular flights in the air. but this is good can get in a single port of sim upsets in months and it was flight from cutting dougan to singapore at five point seventeen but he is but he is off by a sim lots of blood such a career it was a flight from paris to tie bay it's five going twenty four. here it is is i'm thinking of sort of the about kuala lumpur and the flight from also dumb to call them poor. girl with the boy says give us three of them

a computer well the move here is if it's sealed with a peer someone who the you could ask you will put it below. the other and the pro live here well as these go boy in here besides rational means all the air traffic control thinks. ukranian across climbing to the direction of malaysian point seven seven it is supposed that it was soo twenty five. well that he knew someone who could lots of dead of winter sussed out a lot of truth to particular those that he sounds from between suitland you five and one sail insensate one was from st to five kilometers. but slaves could reproduce to come what's a good spot for a bit of good government on this to get was a beer with this appreciation for according to its technical characteristics to

twenty five can briefly climb up to ten thousand meters so stuff you will start to look a little thinner for you like you tried lots of old little trees the self. as a mother would you put those at sea and know that when you go to the nuts at the q when you are going to go on to the dentist or do p.t. regularly it is equipped with air to air missile air see example that can capture and destroy targets all that uses up to twelve kilometers and up to five kilometers as guaranteed scott would seal it with someone who is single shot up over those that process those guns going of your outfit but i could just get a living human being not book to show when it was all just give them food and why did they call what aircraft slow this save the airline with the civil aviation and civil telestrator and the same threat level. cut deal where political theater near

the top of a little life to find they also put this question but there's you know but it's not anything for months it. will cover. it up whatever the feeling but i still feel it was a lot of it since you may see steam i've been use of several goes well with visit as a confirmation to this fax we have. done by the year all stoves all sound sure of the unified a.t.c.c. some if but to me to touch on it well those w. little girls that feel you know it and love you get it published this week will be commented by the general staff had to start you know my question to get. was i am i guess by the deal ladies and gentlemen here were the up with your own ideas rather course not on what i see is going to get out. while watching the material i'd like to know i've come to order but i was course goes online at center

you know see if you're modeling is out there one of those now there's a here today the federal and traffic control agency has acquired some objective control material from the rust off regional center of unified a traffic control system not done the videos are based here it is about ideas which i was going for months that i was going to stay on the market what are you and your brother there any of you do with your nasty just go do it now. but you know if you thought about it if you didn't want most course korea similar story you would have visited the us go about it with a video clip presents the air control information on the aerial situation in the region of the nest in that period from five hours nineteen minutes pm to five hours twenty five minutes pm moscow time on seventeen of july two thousand and fourteen. where they were built they will go out we have got one of those girls who are boarding soon for cindy said well we're going to show you

a lot of been going some got caught in the upper left corner it's a reduced a boarding savants talent to mock following through it from copenhagen to singapore . right there are we have got two of those most would not work through for serious if here is the other issue of a lot of the start of the war on port. angeles for and the reason was it aircraft it is a point seven seven seven mot which is on each week from amsterdam to kuala lumpur but of up you have got all those most vulnerable and symposium to force you see others are promotional go there to here and on a stright the reason a boy in seven seven each mocked me you can't swim from delhi to going in high. superheros go to food now. that in and out of there go through in there. so you see a lot of good news out there as those nigerian here in utah got on the ice he's

going to get out of here all three aircraft have been standing money towards that by the st rita's stations all theatrically control and ministry of defense with the russian federation. more than seems to assume this is the river so not only guess what that is going to say but i see if you get out of fear it doesn't get easier as you get on our boy in seven seven seven it's heading towards the city of russian federation state boundaries and east to cross it in the flowing of torn up. these these bitches are going to hear about oh it was going to hold now as they are now as up russia there but i'm a bit of i look at these these other. and their traffic control officer has been controlling the aircraft flight and to keep something quiet when it's white you were rivals to complain of there with the given ones. soon as the ships or the roads at noon will know that it is there that i didn't hear any of our guys who got

us going to going it's fair that i see is going to get our thing now as it were to produce the grotto so so notorious and i should be as chorus story short there i did not die world heritage is one of those tribes of them at five hours twenty minutes pm at the distance of fifty one kilometers from the russian federation city found to me and that as in most all three hundred decrease the aircraft study shows it speed abruptly which is quite distinctively to be seen on the t. bull's eye crossed characteristics but a body of water is clear though thought you were never a child see i'm not to sure some of the routes that they're going to look good that is good for people with news that are going to share in your boy where there is some nowhere near ours goes and i meet up here at five hours twenty one minutes thirty five seconds pm was the aircraft speed of two hundred kilometers all worked

at the point of boring crashed the recent new model of an aircraft to be seen. done about who is going to be here was a good show on the road they were going through in their bus time it was done here it would put into teaching your children your community this future is up russian authorities to hear more about are you sure. you were quite article which you knew more. news here or was gorgeous this. up was an hour now about all the one that struck about their way in the summer to. the krafts wars staddon money toward by redistributions of dentist and even sky queuing for minutes cubit the air control of this inquiry and the characteristics of the huli at the aircraft couldn't possibly get done because it's quite foreseeable that the aircraft had no second we did they did that.