i mean. in life there are and there are but. this is r.t. international this ukrainian warplanes reportedly bomb a town near the crash site of the malays even passenger jet despite the president's ban on his deliveries. reporting to the government forces have handed over the flight data recorders to the officials probing the crash while the train carrying the bodies of flight m.h. seventeen victims reaches hard. completing them the first stage of its journey. russia's defense ministry presents radar evidence that a ukrainian fighter jet was in the nearby airspace at the time of the disaster and circled the crash site. and western media insists they know who's to

blame heaping accusations on russia citing evidence from ukrainian officials social media and the internet. good evening my name is kevin zero in face to be with us this hour it's now nine pm here in moscow. the ukrainian army has reportedly been launching attacks on towns and villages in the east which kiev a declared a no combat zone it's an area around forty kilometers wide around the site of the malaysian plane crash one resident told me that they're still being bombed. my friend's holiday home was shelled from rocket launches and that's what they found in their backyard hit their garage two cars down luckily no one was killed

but then time village has been raised it's no farther than ten kilometers from here and the president promised us the forty kilometer no comfort zone i took the shell with me to show it to the international observers working on the side now my way here i start to find a chance and shortly after wards the sounds of the forms explode and my mum just called me and said they had been bombed. not. the bodies of the victims age seventeen finally meantime making their way towards creation this train here called the train of death has brought the remains now to the city of heart a call of from there be flown to the netherlands roman cossar of reports. that two hundred eighty two bodies that were recovered from the site of the crash are right here and were later taken to the city of saurez where there were cats and refrigerated train cars have now reached the town called here in ukraine while

members of the always see monitoring mission who are here in ukraine here at this site and observing everything that's going on said they were completely satisfied with the transfer of the bodies from the city off. of i have watched. the train and the wagons and i'm. thinking the story itself the bodies. group of quality meanwhile malaysian experts have also arrived on the scene they have already got a hold of black boxes that was done late last night by the self-proclaimed governments all five eastern ukraine here. the malaysian airlines boeing seven seven seven crashed in east ukraine last thursday old two hundred ninety eight people on board were killed among them eighty five children it's hope now that the plane's flight data recorders will help shed some light on what exactly happened they're being hounded to the united kingdom for decoding according to the ukrainian government meanwhile key west and they does have been criticizing the self-defense

forces in ukraine's east hindering the investigation the work has been made more difficult by the presence of separatists. repeatedly prevented international investigators from gaining full access to the wreckage as investigators approached they fired their weapons into the air. initially investigate his had trouble reaching the crash site which is in the middle of a conflict zone but michael boasts q. from the o.s.c. mission that's monitoring recovery effort says that's no longer the case we didn't receive any obstruction and as most of you saw we had security cordon around us most of the time and we did visit the railway station twice our passage to the affected area was incredibly fast as most of you know there are a lot of checkpoints along the way our observations were that we did not see any perimeter of security in the place there was clearly were noticeably less activity

and the emergency services were not longer present and the tents used for what they said were planning purposes had been removed. the intensification of the fighting in east ukraine and the mh seventeen tragedy came up at today's emergency meeting of russia's security council headed by president putin to the conscience of a look to what was said. the president says that russia is to ensure a full scale and transparent investigation into the h seventeen crash in eastern ukraine the one that will be available to the international community and moscow says that it is ready to facilitate such a crash investigation however that seems to be not enough. we are being called on to influence the self-defense forces in southeast ukraine i sit in we will do everything possible but russian steps alone absolutely not enough

to give authorities have to be called upon to follow the basic norms of decency and to enter a ceasefire during the time of the investigation the president is calling for a key of to at least act appropriately as its current actions are not assisting the investigation but rather slowing it down and the president is also pointing at the un going situation in the area very close to the city. as the president says that ukrainian troops attacked self defense. and now it's almost at the same time as government forces were handing over black boxes from the crash to international experts and investigators working at the scene. did a coaching of one as the investigation into the crash gets underway russia's defense ministry has provided evidence that kiev may have had a hand in the tragedy it's made public its own data from the area and it shows a second craft in close proximity to the malays in plane air traffic control failed

to identify which according to defense officials suggests it was a military jet. if you're not that useful at five twenty one pm and thirty five seconds another mark of an aircraft appeared at the point of the boeing crash this aircraft was steadily monitored by radar station. and detour in the sky during the next four minutes of having spotted the jet in air traffic controller failed to identify it as the aircraft most probably didn't count yourself identification system which is characteristic of military aircraft. well this is one of the satellite images released it shows ukrainian missile systems being deployed from a base some distance from the crash site but in the next photo taken on the day of the tragedy one of those missile launches is missing it was detected by a satellite near where the plane came down and this graph here incidental to it all

shows how radar activity in ukraine peaked on the day of the crash possibly indicating the use of ukrainian systems ukraine's president for his part denies that the country's military was involved in the downing of the plane talking to c.n.n. petro poroshenko said satellites near defense systems were monitoring the skies of ukraine and he insisted that data from them will confirm that all ukrainian planes were on the ground at the time of the crash the u.s. says there's intelligence to back up their accusations that east ukraine militias and russia but it's holding back from making any public the state department asked why. well you're willing to present publicly that backs up your version of the story which may well be the correct version of the story but all you need and while well it may well be but i think you know i don't know and you know. because i haven't seen your evidence that shows that the missile was launched from rebel held

territory but you're saying but the only thing you're willing to put out publicly is the social media accounts i mean the social media that's part of it right but there is social media account that says that the disputes that are the claims to present a different a different version so what was that immersion be mad why don't you there are many many many theories but you're saying not all you're going to meet me a logical well i would point out though all of the accounts that do not support your version of events now wrong and all of the ones that do support it are right because you make assessments based on a variety of intelligence in a variety of information some of which we can talk about publicly and some of which we can't accusations from state officials was spurred by much of the mainstream media which is putting all the blame for the plane crash on russia long before an official investigation is reached inclusion accounts and looking into what some news outlets passing off as facts. hours after the tragic crash of m h seventeen a toxic mix of politics and speculation filled the airwaves and headlines worldwide

with the western media already determining who to blame this is not a case where terrorists are operating without an address or home base it's called the kremlin is it time to stand up to russia's president once and for all blame is largely on putin and i think we have to hold him accountable international monitors say they now have all been access to the war torn area where the plane fell and are now working to reveal what exactly happened to m.h. seventeen but in the court of public opinion the investigation itself may have already been discredited they may be stymied in the investigation because they don't want to have the real proof of the fact that they actually shot this aircraft down there have been reports saying that already some of the black black boxes had been recovered and were in moscow there has been no confirmation that the black boxes were even heading to moscow many unconfirmed reports have sprung up since the crash a tape was widely circulated in the media with conversations between who were said

to be ukrainian rebels as well as between the rebels and allegedly russian intelligence officers discussing a plane crash here has also provided a preview of what it said was the launcher used to down m.h. seventeen about to be smuggled into russia these recordings were only very fine by the ukrainian intelligence service hardly an impartial party in the conflict the obama administration has put out its own version of events saying a missile was shot from rebel held territory but presenting no evidence to back it up the media does not treat all sources equally either and in the court of public opinion innocent until proven guilty does not always apply. got a check on our team washington d.c. . so the media and certain politicians are quick to blame. government forces on russia for the crash but u.s. defense on list of nolan told us they're throwing out versions of events to see

what happens next the news media is twenty four seven three sixty five which means it needs a constant stream of. controversy and that's how television is run at least in the united states and i think some other western countries as well and i think you know with these things are often tried in the media before the investigation is done and i think that's been the case here washington says it's cold intelligence data proves it was a missile launch they say all the or trying force that launched it they keep talking about this but where is the proof nothing substantial has been put forward at all yet while intelligence agencies i mean it could be legitimate that they're hiding the sources and methods and it could be that it's not legitimate and that this is you know well let's just put it out there and see what happens the problem is nobody is neutral in this site you have both sides supporting various sides of the ukraine and so both russia and the united states have

a stake in the outcome i think the the upshot of all this is going to be more sanctions and more european saying russia and really some of the blame should lie on the government of ukraine for not closing the airspace and you can't expect to fly over a war zone and not be in danger. while the international community moles who's to blame for the tragedy the heartbroken relatives of those on board are mourning their loved ones the dutch prime minister says the remains of and made seventeen victims will be taken to the netherlands on wednesday peter all of it is going to meet one grieving family. i don't forward with. the people of iraq to pay tribute to a family that's restored was part of the very fabric of the community just families so within the whole community wouldn't a whole city so everybody knows someone here has been coming you know for years so you're quite shocked restaurant owners pose for fun jenny died in the crash along

with these laws mother and sweet boy only this cabin wasn't on the flag now he's left it up the pieces you can imagine how big the losses lost his parents his grandmother. works in the restaurant also. hope you can manage to. go on like you spend it outside the asian restaurant floral tributes iowa those who knew the family concerned more with making the dead wrist the national climate about investigating the tragedy the meeting is that which are the bodies. goodbye to them on the proper way ultimately what memorial service is like the one going on behind me show that even in its darkest hour the people of the netherlands are coming together to show that they stand as one peter all of a rotterdam. malaysian investigators are on the way to the crash site and have

narrowly avoided coming on the fire the ukrainian army unleashed and to me strikes on the region's capital still a stronghold of anti-government activists killing five civilians and wounding many more details on that on the way then also to. number of palestinians killed in israel's offensive passes six hundred as the u.n. secretary general pushes for a cease fire to. this is a medium leave us so we leave that maybe. by the sea motions to cure the other party visible. shoes that no one is asking with the guests that deserve answers from.

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logan and i was driving from the malaysia crush site the ukrainian army shelled and bombed the regional capital of the self-proclaimed donetsk republic it also hit the guns to the capital of another restive eastern region over a dozen civilians have been killed many others have been injured just to warn you there's some graphic images coming out in the video has been said into his films by the locals. good luck. i. think i'll. let you know what. tonight is has been under constant shelling indeed by the ukrainian army and remains

a stronghold still for anti-government activists graham phillips next has a war on what's going on and i was sitting out on here in donetsk outside the city central ministers a building which is firmly in the hands of the pro dinette activists as is the entire city of donetsk we have in the city limits in some places that's a kilometer ramparts fortifications there's a collapsed railway bridge with wagons across it is not completely impassable and it is not be the receiving end of shelling approaching the city today there were plumes of smoke billowing up into the end that was a factory complex in the city center sheldan ukrainian military we also had the railway station here reportedly on the receiving end of shelling with reports of casualties there and fighting going on here throughout the day at the city's airports. ukrainian parliament voted to draft more recruits to the conflict zone in the east now the decision was opposed by one opposition member who spoke out against the move. his microphone was quickly switched off when he was pulled from

the podium would be more prone to ongoing term political of the website up to the point. the u.k. said to hold a public inquiry into the death of former russian f.s.b. officer alexander litvinenko poisoned nearly a decade ago the first to go could shed light on who was behind the assassination. the report alexander litvinenko as many of you will remember was a former f.s.b. officer who died in london in two thousand and six now some of his family say that they believe that he was working for m i six at the time of his death but he was allegedly poisoned with radioactive polonium after drinking tea with two russian men in a london hotel now the new investigation is set to examine whether or not russia was behind his death and the home secretary theresa may said that she was hoping

that the inquiry would be of some comfort to alexander litvinenko is a widow last year a judge ruled that indeed a public inquiry with its wider powers is exactly what is needed to try and get to the bottom of how alexander litvinenko died now the timing of this is very significant it comes at such. point in relations between the u.s. u.k. and russia in the wake of the crash of flight m h seventeen over eastern ukraine now ministers in westminster have reportedly said that the timing of the inquiry is pure coincidence but what a coincidence it is. well first your listeners believes the case is yet another british should punish moscow. this comes on the very day that britain is trying to push other members of the e.u. to impose tougher sanctions on russia this is just one more stick that the u.k. government if they can be russia and so i think it's no coincidence that all the

comes out just five days after this terrible plane disaster in ukraine it's all part of this russian phobic campaign and at the u.k. government will be hoping that bringing this back into the limelight the time to evolve people against russia and so it's a political decision not leave. israeli warning shots have been fired at a building in gaza city were foreign journalists a base there are no casualties but the building which is situated in a residential area was evacuated israel earlier warned it will not be responsible for journalist safety in the area but it's gaza civilians who've been affected most since israel's operation began two weeks ago the offensive so far as claimed the lives of six hundred five palestinians to lucy evening israel's last thirty people twenty eight of them i.d.f. soldiers. the.

other. i put it. out for. the world the world the business is going to give. you. the yellow sanderson's. but it is good to know that. adding to the civilian toll was monday's tank shelling of a hospital in central gaza which killed at least five people one norwegian doctor volunteering in gaza wrote an open letter now drawing the attention to the injuries witnessed by the medics he describes lakes of blood emergency rooms with the wounded a constantly arriving much gilbert's appeal to western leaders to take a closer look at what's happening arguing that spending just one night at a hospital where he works would be enough to change their minds very fear talk to

him. what israel is actually doing it's applying an immensely disproportionate force which we see not at least the nostril i mean when we look at all these vern bodies i think they use an ira a different grenade and charges. both of the bombardment of buildings and destroying of whatever hobbit out there is and to call this sort of on to person although i have facts. and this roughness of shrapnel is a really hard to treat because it takes number one the deadly if they penetrate your cave it is it's called the chest abdomen they would cut open with blood vessels and you bleed to death within a short time depending on the size of the trouble but if it doesn't penetrate like we had all these children would have hundreds of shatner's that you have to sit and extract one by one and it's extremely painful and of course it's dangerous because you can have infections so it's an irony of weaponry that they are using all the time. what is your response to the general the general situation of violence

especially in this context of what's almost a cycle almost of every few years this happening. now and that's that's really a good question because it seems i think i heard one say a spokesperson for i.d.f. saying that everybody who has a backyard needs that you know said you need to to mow the lawn every now and then that's what we're doing basically every third year we have to cut the grass to gather meaning killing people. in a way this is a huge obstacle to peace because it it it sort of moves everything backwards backwards backwards instead of finding you know what can we agree on like said if you want peace you have to talk to enemies this is not talking to enemies this is make your enemies really untalkative. the f.b.i. is pursuit of terrorists as it seems crew served to create them out of law abiding citizens we talk about that next report by human rights watch also says american

muslims are the security agencies top targets report liars got the story. well whatever you want to call it the reality is that hundreds of american muslims are being arrested and prosecuted for taking part in crimes manufactured and orchestrated by the u.s. government a lengthy report released by human rights watch finds that nearly all of the highest profile domestic terrorism plots post nine eleven featured direct involvement by f.b.i. informants who recruit the targets and induce them into taking part in would be terrorist attacks now most of if not all of the targets are muslim the role that the f.b.i. informant or agent provocateur plays is that he sets up the plan he provides the weapons he encourages the target and even at times induces him or her by promising cash to carry out the would be attack now human rights watch focused primarily on twenty seven cases and found the following that the federal bureau of investigation may have created terrorists out of law abiding individuals by conducting sting

operations that facilitated or invented the target's willingness to act in one case a judge said the government came up with the crime provided the means and removed all relevant obstacles the report also says that in aggressively pursuing terrorism threats before they even materialize u.s. law enforcement overstepped its role by effectively participating in developing terrorism plots now as of two thousand and eight the f.b.i. had roughly fifteen thousand paid informants about thirty percent of the nine eleven terrorism cases are considered sting operations which informants played an active role in recruiting the would be terrorists and setting them up to commit the crime. for this break.

in florida the debate over. whether illegal immigrants should be able to get driver's licenses is heating up one group called the living with angels says that they should be allowed behind the wheel to support this view they use a classic argument that comes up a lot in the media they say that not a lot of people for it are legal so if you're not legal you can't have a driver's license what's with that this is like when people say well we should legalize drugs because people use them anyway or we should legalize prostitution because people will do it anyway so essentially i think they mean that since everyone comes here illegally anyways we may as well let them drive so if enough people do something we currently consider illegal does that make it ok maybe sometimes but in the case of illegal immigration rolling out the red carpet for people to come to a nation illegally just empowers more people to come and it certainly spits in the face of locals and legal immigrants who do obey the rules of bureaucracy so here i would say no to driver's licenses for illegals in florida yeah there might be millions of them in the usa but that doesn't justify society bending over to make

their lives comfortable if you want to drive in america be born american or become one the legal way but that's just my opinion. and i marinate this is best and these are some of the stories that we're tracking for you today. first up is the sometime auto loan and the new subprime home loan well now the all signs point to yes so what can we do to make sure that this problem doesn't end like the last one with the stuff coming right out and dr

speaking is on the show the heterodox economist that. down with me earlier today to talk about the b. i asked report among other things and today's big deal i'm joined by the host of the big picture here on r t mr hartman tom and i are discussing mergers and monopolies i won't want to miss the moment that it all starts right now the. prime mortgages those are so two thousand eight but subprime auto loans those those are very in fashion right now now in the five years since the aftermath of the financial crisis all of those to people with tainted credit have risen more than one.