and that's why you can find large show larry king right here on r.g.p. . coming up on r t the investigation continues into the tragic downing of a malaysian airliner in eastern ukraine black boxes are handed over to malaysian authorities while bodies of the deceased arrive in ukraine controlled territory an update from the crash site. and human rights watch report finds a terrible trying to u.s. counterterrorism highlights cases of alleged improper profiling extensive sting operations and conditions of confinement war in the findings coming up. on hundreds of detroit residents have been without running water this summer now the city's water department will suspend the shut off for fifteen days more on their water

woes ahead. good evening it's tuesday july twenty second five pm here in washington d.c. i'm lindsey france you're watching our team america. the investigation into the deadly malaysia airlines flight seventeen crash is ramping up today in eastern ukraine the black boxes are now in the hands of presented as after and to care of rebels handed them over to malaysian officials late last night the remains of around two hundred passengers have been loaded onto a train and have arrived in government controlled kharkiv the bodies will next be taken to the netherlands to be identified artist or a man closer revis on the ground in eastern ukraine where fighting has not yet ceased. as i'm talking right now we just heard the sound of multiple rocket launchers being fired at a distance and that's basically been happening all day which is a clear violation often all combat zone it was announced by ukrainian president.

call now in terms of the bodies that have already arrived in. ukraine there are over two hundred of them there and the head of the dutch forensics team that was traveling with the train from the city of torres then to donetsk and then so hard called said that they're completely satisfied with the way that the bodies were stored and how they were transferred. watched. the train and the wagons and i. think. it's off the bodies. group of course of course the black boxes flight recorders or comment on as black boxes have been collected from the site said they were under the control of the self-proclaimed. people's republic here they have now been handed over to the malaysian authorities as happened. on a monday night sans malaysian authorities in their turn they will take these black

boxes send them over to british aviation experts and hope that will shed some light on what actually happened to flight m.h. seventeen now i always say mission i continue to monitor the situation here on the ground initially they said that they had had trouble reaching the side that's no longer the case right now they have completely full access and use they mark to thursday that's a malaysian aviation experts arrived to add this scene they had a chance to scour the territory they were there in fact finding mission and they also express said gratitude for the full access and for the level of protection that they received here in eastern ukraine meanwhile the head of the spokesperson for the. always see who is here on the ground say he said that perhaps it's time for those who have more expertise to find that he be here and he also added that this still haven't heard anything from the international aviation commission that

was artie's roman closer and as investigators and the public await evidence to determine what happened on the fateful day the malaysian airlines plane crashed into eastern ukraine the obama administration announced it will release some data from the u.s. intelligence community later today on the crash and the meantime the u.s. continues to endure address the investigation artie's america david pressed for answers at the state department briefing earlier today. today the white house reiterated it's believed that malaysia airliner seventeen was shot down by a sophisticated surface to air missile located within rebel held territory in eastern ukraine where a lot of questions at this point over how the u.s. came to that conclusion but white house spokesperson josh earnest did break down the evidence the u.s. has at this point take a listen we know that for months now heavy weapons have been moving across the border from russia into ukraine we know that the russians have been training.

russian backed separatists in the use of those weapons including anti-aircraft weapons we know that the separatists have claimed credit for shooting down three different aircraft in the last several weeks and we've seen the same social media reports that you've seen that indicates the separatists did at one point on thursday have possession of an essay eleven system. that is capable of reaching aircraft that are flying at high altitudes we also heard from the state department today i had the chance to ask the department about recent claims from russia that a ukrainian fighter jet was allegedly flying very close to the airliner i also asked her about reports of escalated conflict between ukrainian authorities and anti kiev separatists in just the last forty eight hours take a listen to what she had to say russia has recently been questioning a ukrainian su twenty five fighter jet that was flying you know more than three miles away from the boeing plane before it was shot down and they've sort of

suggested that it may have been involved they don't know but they're questioning they've done more than what. what evidence does the u.s. have to rule out that as a possibility at this point because i've heard reports that the u.s. already sort of knocked that out of a couple points first as we've said when you look at the kind of you know markings on the plane and how it looks like it was brought down obviously that's consistent with an essay eleven which is. fired from the ground i haven't seen any information that indicates the ukrainian jet we're still looking into it obviously the president of ukraine has said there was not but again we like to independently verify things for matt before you ask the question and so i haven't seen information that would indicate that and all of the you know the preponderance of the information that we've laid out in that the intelligence community will lay out was that this was an essay eleven fired from the ground from a separatist controlled area and there are also several ports that the ukrainian military has continued to issue attacks in eastern ukraine despite everything going

on with the investigation what kind of information do you have on that and has the u.s. said anything whatsoever to kiev authorities about a cease fire while the president of ukraine is committed to a forty kilometer cease fire around the crash site and i believe the fighting is outside of that forty kilometers i think he's held to it and look we very takes two sides so where there are attacks against the ukrainian people ukrainian forces they obviously have a responsibility and obligation to protect their people but it's my understanding that they have held the cease fire around the crash site state department spokeswoman marie harf also address russian allegations were guarding u.s. claims that american satellites show the plane was indeed shot down by a missile take a listen we've seen a history throughout this conflict of the russian government putting out just sheer propaganda false about what's happening we have a great deal of open source evidence and intelligence to back it up that supports what we believe to be true and we'll talk about that more in the coming thank you so lots of questions raised today regarding this incident and at this point we're

just waiting for more details to emerge reporting and washington david our team. senior u.s. intelligence officials say they have no evidence of direct russian government involvement in the shooting down of malaysia airlines flight seventeen now they say the passenger jet was likely felled by an essay eleven surface to air missile fired by russian backed separatists in eastern ukraine. that. russia created the conditions for the downing by arming the separatists the officials briefed reporters tuesday under ground rules that their names not be used in discussing intelligence related to last week's air disaster which killed two hundred ninety eight people they said they didn't know if any russians were present at the missile launch and they wouldn't say that the missile crew was trained in russia a senior official said the most likely explanation was that the plane was shot down by mistake and in an emergency meeting of russia's security council president putin address the situation on the ground in ukraine archies medina cochon of

a looks at what was said. the president says that russia is a red sea to ensure full scale and transparent investigation into the age of seventeen crash in eastern ukraine the one that will be available to the international community and moscow says that it is ready to facilitate she said she'd crash investigation however that seems to be not enough. because it was used in the wheel being called on to influence the self-defense forces in south east ukraine i sit again we would do everything possible to make a good russians the absolute absolutely not enough to give authorities have to be called upon to follow the basic norms of decency and to enter a ceasefire during the time of the investigation the president is calling for the key of to at least act appropriately as its current actions are not assisting the investigation but rather slowing it down and the president is also pointing at the un going situation in the area very close to the city of as the president says that

ukrainian troops attacked self defense units near the now it's almost at the same time as anti government forces were handing over black boxes so from the crash to international experts and investigators working at the scene. that was our to correspondent. since the crash malaysia flight seventeen communities around the world have offered up their love and support to the family members and communities of the two hundred ninety eight victims hit especially hard for the dutch who lost one hundred ninety three people president obama paid tribute to the memories of the victims of the crash by signing a book of condolences at the embassy of the kingdom of the netherlands here in washington and rotterdam artie's peter all of our takes an in-depth look at a dutch communities outpouring of support for one family who lost three in the tragedy. i don't forward the public so. the people of iraq to pay tribute to

a family is restored to these poles it's the very fabric of security this family is so within the whole community would need a whole cd so everybody knows someone here has been coming you know for years so you are quite sure of restaurant owners before you know died in the crash alone with these those mobile phones wait for only this son kevin wasn't on the plane now he's left it with these things you can imagine the break the law she's lost his parents his grandmother. works in the restaurant also. hope he can manage to. go on like you spend it outside the asian gorge restaurant floral tributes for those who knew the phone call to send more with making the dead grist for the national plan that they didn't investigate the tragedy demeans the news starts with the bodies home return sorry goodbye to them on the proper way

ultimately war memorial services like the one going on behind me show that even in its darkest hour the people of the netherlands are coming together to show that they stand as one peter all of a right to. say with our t. from our coverage of the malaysian jet crash get updates on r.t. dot com you can also follow us on twitter and facebook for the latest on this developing story and of course keep an eye on the ticker at the bottom of your screen for any new developments. well amid the violence along the israel gaza border a number of u.s. and european airlines are no longer flying to and from israel the move comes after a rocket attack near ben gurion international airport in tel aviv here in the u.s. the federal aviation authority ordered all flights to the airport suspended for twenty four hours meanwhile the fighting shows no signs of stopping the french foreign minister today joined a growing list of world leaders colleagues. an immediate ceasefire between israel

and hamas in gaza u.s. secretary of state john kerry remains in the region helping to work out a cease fire deal the fighting has left nearly six hundred palestinians dead nearly thirty israeli soldiers and citizens have been killed archies harry fear has been on the ground covering the conflict he spoke with a doctor in gaza who is treating the wounded. what israel is actually doing is applying an immensely disproportionate force which we see not at least in the hospital i mean when we look at all these burned bodies i think they use an ira of different grenades and charges to achieve both the bombardment of buildings and destroying of whatever harbor taught there is to call this sort of on to personal effects. and this roughness of shuttles are really hard to treat because it takes number one they're deadly if they penetrate your cave it is scrolled the chest abdomen they were cut open with blood vessels and you bleed to death within a short time depending on the size of the truck but if it doesn't penetrate like we

had all these children would have hundreds of shock and i start you have to sit and extract one by one and it's extremely painful and of course it's dangerous because you cannot infections so it's an irony of weaponry that they are using all the time . what is your response to the general the general situation of violence especially in this context of what's almost a cycle almost of every few years this happening. and that's that's really a good question because it seems i think i heard one say a spokesperson for i.d.f. saying that everybody has a backyard needs that you know set you need to do to mow the lawn every now and then and that's what we're doing basically every third year we have to go down and cut the grass it has a meaning killing people. in a way this is a huge obstacle to peace because it sort of moves everything backwards backwards by course instead of finding you know what can we agree on like if you want peace you

have to talk to enemies this is not talking to enemies this is make your enemies really untalkative. that was r.t. correspondent harry fear with norwegian doctor and actress mad together. but the human cost of counterterrorism practices used by the united states government has skyrocketed since the september let. two thousand and one attacks according to a new report from human rights watch details it details the extent of allegedly improper profiling extensive cing operations and conditions of confinement since the nine eleven attacks more than five hundred individuals have been prosecuted in u.s. federal courts for terrorism or related offenses which is about forty cases on average per year nearly half of those convictions resulted from informant based cases almost thirty percent of those cases were sting operations in which the informant played an active role in the underlying so-called plot and on top of this new information has emerged regarding terrorist watch lists in general according to the

associated press around ninety nine percent of the names submitted are accepted to be put on this list which has led to more than one point five million people being added in the last five years alone the department of justice has responded to this by saying the report itself acknowledges that many of the decisions that they report criticizes are not only lawful but also specifically approved by federal judges just as the material support statute that the report criticizes was up held by as constitutional by the u.s. supreme court now to explain the human rights watch report i was joined earlier by andrea the deputy washington director for the organization i first asked her to give us some examples of how the u.s. might be creating terrorists out of these innocent people. we've documented cases where the f.b.i. will send an informant to say a mosque mosque parking lot and encourage that informant to strike up conversations with people about subjects like jihad eventually to to find people who maybe are

interested in a conversation and the informant might spend weeks or months developing a relationship with these people discussing the idea of violent jihad discussing the idea of terrorist attacks sometimes showing people inflammatory photos of violence perpetrated by americans and encouraging them to plan terrorist attacks and then the f.b.i. of course provide the means to commit the attacks frequently they provide in weapons they have provided money to allow people to travel to locations to plan a terrorist attack so in some cases we've documented the f.b.i. essentially manufacturing the entire plot. so how does a defendant in one of these cases make a claim of entrapment because he's got to show that the government induced him to commit the crime that he wasn't predisposed to commit it but given some of these people's background it's very hard for them to make that case is not. right going to terrorism case when you were looking at whether the defendant was predisposed to

commit terrorism what the government does is they introduce all sorts of evidence about what was say what was on the defendant's computer so if someone has gone to websites that have particularly violent images or discuss a violent ideology that's on the defendant's computer that's evidence that the prosecutors will introduce we also documented the use of types of expert testimony where experts talk about terrorism in a much broader context context so people in the u.s. are frequently charged with crimes like conspiracy or attempting to provide material support to terrorists the prosecution then can admit evidence totally unrelated to the defendant but about terrorism in general and that inflames the jury the jury is scared of terrorism so all these issues sort of bundled together making it very difficult for a defendant to show that he was entrapped with this report also find that speaking of these targets american muslims are unfairly targeted in f.b.i. and department of justice can our terrorism operations how so sort of shine

a light on the way this is actually done we've talked about the idea of the f.b.i. and law enforcement in general treating american muslims as terrorists in waiting there is this theory the f.b.i. has used the so-called radicalization theory that suggests that people who say go to websites that talk about violent jihad or participate in discussion forums or maybe even talk about it themselves on the street or in their community centers the idea is that those people have a greater propensity towards violence but there isn't actually evidence that that's true and what we've seen is law enforcement targeting people at times based on ideas and thoughts and speech that should be protected by freedom of expression laws. the policy changes and reforms just human rights watch recommend for the department of justice to reign in these potential abuses during their terrorism investigations. well the first thing is we think the use of informants needs to be curtailed and subject to robust oversight the case of the newburgh four for example

is a very prominent one the informant offer of the defendant two hundred fifty thousand dollars and the other defendants who were poor and one case one of them had a very sick brother who needed medical treatment the offer of two hundred fifty thousand dollars was very tempting now there is testimony in that case that the f.b.i. didn't know the informant offered that much money they hadn't authorized this of course the person was still acting as an agent of the government but that's a great example of why the f.b.i. needs to conduct more robust oversight over their own informants and why congress needs to conduct robust oversight over the f.b.i. and the justice department. how many resources does the f.b.i. and the department of justice put towards the investigation of terrorism. since nine eleven the f.b.i. has actually diverted significant resources to counterterrorism diverted away from investigation of white collar crimes in particular but also non terrorism violent and non violent crimes and in fact there is an inspector general report from the

f.b.i. documenting this shift that certain f.b.i. field offices feel they have fewer resources to pursue other non terrorism related offenses and then you look at some of the cases that we documented in this report where the person likely would never have tried to commit a criminal act but for the involvement of law enforcement and think about how much better those readers who could be used to actually pursue the real criminals let's talk about the number of people now on the terrorist watch list during the civil trial the court released information showing that in the last five years more than one point five million names have been added to that list and almost ninety percent of the names submitted for the list are accepted it seems like a lot of people why would the government consider so many people potential terrorists. so one of the interesting connections is that we've seen long foresman pursue potential informants by for example threatening people but they will place them on the no fly list and they don't work as an informant in the case of tarik mahama who was prosecuted for in part translating material what seems to be

clearly free expression he was first approached by law enforcement and asked to be an informant when he refused he was arrested so we see cases of the f.b.i. using other forms of leverage like placing people on watch lists like threatening to deport them are members of their family if they're on documented in this country and using that to exploit people and get them to act as informants all right thank you very much for joining us today andrea prasar the deputy washington director of human rights watch. the battle over running water destroyed has taken another turn the city says it is halted the shut off of past due accounts for fifteen days in order to give residents time to set up a payment plan well thousands in detroit are facing a water crisis that's drawing the attention of united nations are cheesemaking lopez has more. the trying residents who are struggling to keep their heads above their water bills are getting some temporary relief this week the city's water and

sewer department and now it's that it will temporarily suspend water shut off for fifteen days to allow residents a chance to work out a payment plan for past due bills since spring the city has aggressively gone after customers who are sixty days or more than one hundred fifty dollars late on their payments turns out that that is about half of the city's one hundred seventy thousand residents the average overdue water bill is about five hundred forty dollars now there are aggressive tactics included shutting off the water for seven thousand five hundred fifty six customers between april and may and another seven thousand two hundred in june alone drawing criticism from as high up as the un for violating human rights to water water was restored to more than half of those customers within twenty four hours of being shut off and most of the others were able to pay their bills within seventy two hours the water department says that it will use the two weeks to educate residents who are behind on their bills department spokesman bill johnson told the detroit free press they are doing this

quote and case we have missed someone who has legitimate affordability problems this will allow them to come to us to see if they can work out payments we've always maintained that what we are doing was a collection efforts not a shut off effort however once the fifteen day reprieve ens shut off will continue as the city tries to recoup eighty nine million dollars in overdue bills but activists and community leaders are fighting back this week a group of ten residents filed a lawsuit with the u.s. bankruptcy court accusing the city of violating their constitutional rights with water shut off the group is joining an effort to ask bankruptcy judge steven rhodes to grant them a temporary restraining order to stop all water shut off and to restore service at least until a hearing can be held in bankruptcy. the court part of the group's plan is implementing a water affordability plan with income based payments for residential customers

meanwhile on friday over one thousand residents took to the streets of detroit to protest the cut in services nine of them were arrested after attempting to block service trucks from leaving a dispatch center with shutoff crews inside so it looks like this water fight is just heating up reporting in washington and i can lopez r.t. . that does it for now folks for more of the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash our team america or check out our website our consulate usa can also follow me on twitter at lindsay france see you back right here eight pm thanks for watching. dramas that can't be ignored. story others you know. it's changing the world right now. to make sure it's

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you don't think the definition of the word patriot has become confusing here in the us than just listen to this story in two thousand and eleven heather brash was named one of esquire magazine american patriots of the year this is a men's magazine that still gives tips on finding the g. spot so it's funny enough that they actually named patriots of the year but the fact that they picked brash is just ridiculous because she's in the process of doing something that definitely raises questions about her patriotism as a player named her a patriot of the year for helping to push through the f.d.a. fifty innovation act the bill makes overseas drug makers pay for inspections helps american drug makers push their pills faster at the approval processes and taps on lots of fees so it's just as much of a bureaucratic question byre as any of our legislation so because apparently it

cares about the regulation of meds as much as a cares about pictures of women in underwear as squier pics brash as a patriot of the ear the reason she pushed the bill through. congress is because she heads up as a pharmaceutical company called milan which is based in sylvania they make generic forms of more than twelve hundred pharmaceuticals also fresh dad is a senator from west virginia so she runs a pharmaceutical company advocates for complex regulatory legislation and as a senator for a dad no wonder as wired to endure a patriot of the year right which makes what she's doing now the biggest question mark on patriotism of all because she just announced that she is very now i think her company's u.s. president to become a company incorporated in the netherlands where taxes are low where she bought the european generic drug company abbott laboratories and is moving her operations over there where she can skip out on paying taxes here but this is the craziest part

her company makes generic drugs and those are the ones available from that akkad and medicare programs funded by our tax dollars so her company is getting our tax dollars right into its pockets while at the same time if it's leaving the country to avoid paying their taxes. companies moving out of the states avoid paying taxes is nothing new it's happening all the time now to the point where it's practically an epidemic but this is the first time a patriot of the year is doing it he can make this stuff up so now our patriots are people who move their companies out of the country to avoid paying taxes that's how american patriots now rigorously support their country by refusing to support it at all i'll leave it up to you to decide whether that's a good or bad thing tonight let's talk about that.