in life. u.s. intelligence says no direct link between russia and the crash of flight m.h. seventeen claiming it was downed by anti here fighters but failing to provide any hard evidence. some of the bodies of those killed in the crash in eastern ukraine are being flown to the netherlands our correspondents there with more on their repatriation plus. the u.s. and european media keep pressing the blame for the crash on russia brushing off all evidence to the contrary is propaganda claiming they voice the whole world outrage and in other news. possibly achieve international humanitarian humanitarian law has been violated the u.n.

condemns the israeli offensive in gaza saying it could amount to war crimes as it emerges one palestinian child has been killed every hour during the two days of the ground operation so far. watching r.t. international coming to you live from moscow and we start with breaking news this hour two fighter jets have reportedly been shot down in eastern ukraine and kiev militia say they downed one military plane and damaged another in an area declared a no combat zone but the ukrainian army say both jets were downed with the pilots objecting and escaping the scene after their planes had crashed and the planes came down near the site of the mh seventeen disaster where a cease fire had been declared for a forty kilometer radius to ensure the safety of investigators. well u.s.

intelligence says there's no direct link connecting russia to the malaysian plane crash in eastern ukraine washington does claim though that moscow created the conditions that led to the tragedy presenting their evidence at an intel briefing officials say government forces most likely responsible for downing the plane by mistake back in their proof are photos and videos posted on social networks which they can verify and to see it kind of explains. u.s. intelligence officials speaking on conditions of anonymity really under thinking veil of secrecy are coming out and saying that they have absolutely no evidence and no proof showing any kind of involvement on behalf of the russian government when it comes to this tragedy certainly this is something that's a very big development in this story because this does not really fit the narrative that the u.s. has been pushing in this whole ordeal as of course meanwhile certainly the investigation is really just beginning to take off importantly we've heard from one

u.s. intelligence officials say we don't know a name we don't know a rank and we're not even one hundred percent sure of a nationality this keeping this in mind they are continuing to say that it's likely this was a mystique shoot down conducted by the end of fighters on the ground in eastern ukraine but it looks like because of so much secrecy and these reports really are you and interpret it differently certainly in the u.s. media we seeing journalists going so far as to say that they have don't even have any certainty at all in terms of this being specifically the anti kiev fighters we know that these u.s. intelligence officials are saying that they're basing these claims on social media and posts made by the ukrainian government and that's certainly not a first when it comes to the ukrainian crisis on monday russia's defense ministry has said also that they have proof that there was another clean in the air next to the malaysian airlines flight before it was shot down they believe this plane

resembled a ukrainian military jets and they have been demanding comments or an explanation from kiev and kiev of course thus far has denied this we also do know that russia's defense ministry has also said that they have images of ukrainian missile systems within the zone of the crash. well the u.s. maintains that russia is responsible for creating the conditions for the crash admitting that this is partly based on social media post whatever hard evidence it says it has is kept concealed the possible reasons for this come up in today's cross-talk the americans have extraordinarily good signal intelligence they are spying on the entire world they know what you and i had for breakfast today it it defies belief to imagine that they didn't have spy satellites over the place where the event occurred know what they're saying but it's scary seemed to be saying was

a we have excellent evidence much better than the russians but he won't say what it is if they have this evidence and it was in their favor i would imagine it would be all over the pages of the new york post right now oddly it's just believe me we have a mountain of evidence well they had a mountain of evidence on the iraqi w m d two they'd made it up. with the bodies recovered from the crash site of flight m.h. seventeen and now a board a military transport plane heading for the netherlands has been following their every punctuation. following a military ceremony the bodies of the victims of the flight's m.h. seventeen have departed from the city of golf in ukraine a dutch forensic specialists have been saying that not all of the victims' bodies have been looked at so far they have unlocked two of the train cars and to remain to be

a looked out and they're saying that this procedure should be completed by the twenty fifth of july meanwhile the always see mission and malaysian airlines experts who are here on the scene off they crash are saying that they have received full access to the scene of the tragedy and here's what they said the malaysians have expressed gratitude for the access they received today they were quite happy with that. in fact they said they felt quite protected. they have also said they have not seen any evidence of parts at least the major parts missing from any of the crash sites here today malaysian prime minister has announced that say he is not about to put a blame on anybody in this tragedy until he has that concrete evidence as the investigation is just beginning meanwhile the black boxes that were in possession of malaysian aviation experts are now in the hands of british specialists and they

will probably shed some light as to what happened to flight m h seventeen as to the identification of the bodies well that will be done by the interpol well with more now on the moving of the victims paid to all of these in the netherlands. it's here at eindhoven airport that the first bodies of those killed on board malaysian airlines flight seventeen will be brought on board a dutch military airplane now once those bodies arrive here at eindhoven airport they're going to be taken by refrigerated truck to the town of health to be more correct to a military base just outside of the town of hilton now that that military base is the headquarters the main training center for medics in the army now this was something that was promised by marketer the dutch prime minister on monday during a press briefing he said it was the number one priority to get the bodies out of ukraine and begin that identification process and it seems that that's now well

underway and they'll be bringing some kind of rest by to those families who lost their loved ones on board this tragic tragic flight well it's hoped answers to what happens to flight m.h. seventeen will be found in the in flight data recorders which have now been delivered to the u.k. for analysis aviation security expert desmond ross told us the kind of light they might shed on the cause of the tragedy. the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder are the two boxes were returning to the cockpit voice recorder is the name suggests will tell us what was said what noises were heard everything that occurred in the cockpit prior to the accident that can be very useful in those last moments of m h one seventy it could even record the sound of the explosion it will certainly record the sound of warning bells gongs and any comments made by the pilots the other one the flight data recorder specifically records the parameters of the aircraft its for. characteristics at that time i would not expect there to

be anything it unusual on that flight data recorder up until the moment of the explosion that information should all be stored on the recorders so long as there are no tampering and no one to koreans with and they should be completely able to give us that information so i don't think it will take terribly long the cockpit voice recorder will be quicker but the flight data recorder require specialized equipment which is why it's going to england actually there's only about half a dozen special little bird trees in the world where this can be done i'm sure it will have very painstaking examination to determine precisely what happened in the last moments seconds of m h one seventy five we could carry weeks or the official investigation into the mh seventeen tragedy is only in its initial phase but some of us in europe a news outlets already claim they know exactly what happened using the internet sun verified unproven theories which appeared online soon after the crash they made moscow the culprit got

a teacher can explains. the media coverage in the west has been largely slanted against public opinion of course response to that kind of coverage of a sentiment is that russia is probably involved and if involved they're probably going to cover it up that's where the public sentiment is in the c.n.n. poll the american people got it right in terms of who's to blame here folks fifty one percent said russia isn't directly involved but only the stakes are high whoever shoulders the blame for this atrocity is going to be the target of global anger and right now it looks like it's russia's fault because. it's russia's fault . it's quite clearly the latest twist in this propaganda war the russians through their ambassador here in kuala lumpur presenting their version of events to the malaysian media there's also been attempts to discredit russian sources of information c.n.n. put out a breakdown of what it called russia's propaganda the first item on the list is this it says the russian take passengers were already dead when put aboard the m h

seventeen but when you follow the link on this page it has an article in russian which reviews all the apparently put on quote fake fur gins and conspiracy theories that are out there that's what the article says specifically about the theory that the bodies were dead before the crash it says literally then there is information which is simply impossible to believe c.n.n. presents it and calls it the russian take it is not the russian take in the same breakdown right after this dead bodies theory c.n.n. puts russian defense officials showing evidence that ukraine had the capability to shoot down the plane moscow is now saying ukraine did it showing evidence that it had the capability to do it contrary to what kiev is now say that claim is brushed off as propaganda that information is now politically charged on all airwaves it seems many journalists have already handed down their verdict in washington i'm going to check on. when accusations in the media against moscow over the downing of

m h seventeen are being amplified by state officials american journalist robert perry says jumping to conclusions to school political goals pays little respect to those killed. my concern has been that there's been a rush to judgment that. the way such terrible events should be treated is to have been a serious investigation and then reach conclusions and hold people accountable whatever it was but the first step should be to have a serious investigation which shows respect for those who were killed and what was the need to to reach conclusions before the investigation was undertaken. it was really unseemly on the part of the much of the mainstream us press and frankly the obama administration secretary of state kerry was on the talk shows over the weekend essentially pointing the finger and saying he knows we know and making a case the case should come after the evidence is assembled and evaluated by

professionals way serious people not not rushed out there as a way to make a point. where there are more updates to come from ukraine as well as more deadly artillery fire correspondent has gone missing in the troubles we also contact with graham phillips on cheese day night and have me able to reach him say it's also off to the break the federal bureau of instigation report claims the u.s. government led nor abiding citizens on a path to terrorism molding them into criminals. i marinate in the financial moral. act calm and happy that stocks did eventually take no demand for credit you're not going to get any economic benefit in life there are jews. so

this is a bad scene in the middle of. the very very rigid interpretation of look at a country like egypt for example the sound is very high poverty the reason there's like also the i think it's because the religion. the boundary and the border and that's the kind of suppression if you look at the liberal let's say of a country like turkey it's ninety nine percent. of the.

year with r.t. international not least three people have been killed in an i'll tell ye attack on lugansk in eastern ukraine local authorities say numerous houses schools on the hospital have been damaged in the shelling power stations and other vital facilities have also been hit the ukrainian army has also launched a new round of attacks across don't yet screen jim in an attempt to rid the area of fighters two towns near the regional capital bore the brunt of the strikes with residential areas again saw from the heaviest damage a nine year old girl was reportedly killed in one of the attacks over a dozen civilians have been wounded local spend the night in basements emerging in the morning to find their homes reduced to ruins. picture me it us to remember maybe it is a little. bit busy in your book but my. local but you got this baby boy didn't finish up on time but i think. this need not all that aspect i

got that he had not she did see so do the little guy and then go i mean you don't miss you when you're not there yet meeking at the minute. the morality has lost contact with correspondent graham phillips who has apparently disappeared in east of ukraine along with a journalist for the country's news channel we spoke to a fellow reporter from our channel who says they may have been apprehended by the security service but the last contact is that eleven pm local people including graham a reporter into or the moment mr grant only. we have information then being held captive by ukrainian security service that's according to anti government forces we can verify this moment what you. have denies detaining the journalists all that they ever did in may graham was seized by security forces in the east of ukraine he was questioned on espionage links and then released after about thirty six hours r.t. is trying to get in touch with him but we've not been able to track him down so far

and choose the evening he said he was going to don't yet port despite artie's warnings of the high risks at night we received a text message from graham saying that everything was fine and that he was not was the last that we had from him. more updates on our website it's got twenty four seven updates on what's happening in ukraine the question best to geisha the ongoing unrest and our missing correspondent you can find analysis videos and background at r.t. dot com. to the middle east now these are some of the latest pictures from gaza where israel has been conducting and terrorist operation for over two weeks. i gotta. say i was sad. when israel's offensive has been

condemned by the un human rights chaser says war crimes may have been committed by stop or continuing to document several other cases in which family the evidence is reduced royd with the reported loss of civilian life and in which the women marry indications suggest not even a single member off an armed group was present these are just a few instances where this seems to be a strong possibility that international humanitarian and humanitarian law has been violated in the manner that could amount to walk right. well at the same time navi pillay also condemned hamas for indiscriminately firing at israel meanwhile the united nations has just released a shocking report saying that over the past two days one palestinian child has been killed every hour and it's estimated that about seventy five percent of all the deaths in gaza are also billion with the death toll now standing at more than six hundred forty. reports next those trying to save lives in the war zone are exposed

to the very same dangers as the locals. with israel's navy to the west tanks and ground troops to the north east and south and it's modern air force all the while overhead there is no shortage of extreme risks for garza's paramedics and out of first responders the palestinian red crescent ambulances haven't reached some affected areas leaving civilians distraught but entering such areas can be deadly for paramedics ambulances have come under fire in this recent escalation one medic has already died and it's happened before a paramedic died in the two thousand and twelve war more than a dozen others died in the two thousand and eight two thousand and nine conflict well in the last five minutes of being here at the al aqsa hospital in middle middle we have seen three israeli and aerial vehicles fly over and we've seen just

as many dead bodies right here. in order to palestinian paramedics do their job israel call the union national cease fire in an area that seen heavy strikes schools of ambulances fire engines and diggers rushed in to help many injured and to recover bodies. of missiles struck the surgery department which is home to casualty and trauma patients causing many deaths and injuries. known first responders are internationally legally protected workers fearing that's not enough they've been. joined by foreign activists volunteering as human shields but even with that protection for and volunteers shielding in the civilian evacuation ended in the death of one teenager apparently as a result of multiple i.d.f. gunshots exhausted and overwhelmed with people needing attention garza's paramedics

have a seemingly impossible job to do all the while trying to avoid being part of the body count. harry fear r.t. . while israel insists it is simply exercising its right to defend itself an assertion that gets wide support among the international community but when a british m.p. tried to point out that the palestinians have the same rights let's have a look what happened now liberal democrat m.p. david ward tweeted that if he lived in gaza he'd probably fire rockets at israel as well now a party spokesman immediately responded saying ward's words were not representative of the liberal democrats the m.p. would face disciplinary action there is condemnation from the other parties as well the conservative party chairman said the tweet was an appalling incitement of violence where the labor party described the comment as vile and irresponsible ward has previously found himself in hot water over his anti israel remarks once calling it a zionist state. the war of words over the middle east conflict is just as heated offline

in the latest in a series of antiwar protest supporters of palestine have voiced their anger over the bloody events in guards outside the israeli embassy in chicago or on the other side of the street a pro israeli rally took place at the very same time heavy police presence ensured both demonstrations were peaceful great from both in front of the. america's f.b.i. is accused of being a bit too keen on finding terrorists even creating them out of lure abiding citizens through its methods human rights watch says that the agency conducted sting operations that facilitated or invented the target's willingness to act sometimes they went as far as funding potential terror acts encouraging people to commit them. and that one of the authors of the report. i mean america's war on terror hundreds of american muslims have been arrested prosecuted and imprisoned for attempting to carry out terrorist attacks but according to

a report released by human rights watch most of the high profile terrorist plots that were foiled by the f.b.i. were actually manufactured and orchestrated by the government to talk more about this human rights watch report on joined by one of the co-authors smile thank you very much for joining me you guys analyze and focus primarily on on twenty seven of the most high profile cases boiled by the f.b.i. you guys found that the government was actually creating terrorists out of law abiding citizens. but we looked at twenty seven cases that we thought would give us a good idea of what's been going on since september eleventh and the cases we looked at were made up of some sting operations as you say and we looked at other cases where overbroad material support laws were used to prosecute people for things that they said the f.b.i. was playing a major role instigating and often offering many of the tools that the individuals

who were arrested and convicted needed in order to be successful. pulling through with the plot that the f.b.i. accused them we have a discrete and insular minority the american muslim community being targeted by the f.b.i. in a way that special everyone is under surveillance as we've seen from the n.s.a. that's taking in a lot of data that we should certainly be concerned about but here what we see is a community that's being targeted for their very identity and that's something that should give us a lot of pause. thank you very much for your time as you say that. well we also spoke to the deputy director of the washington branch of human rights she says prosecutors use the fear of terrorism to sway juries the informant might spend weeks or. developing a relationship with these people sometimes showing people inflammatory photos of violence perpetrated by americans and encouraging them to plan terrorist attacks

and then the f.b.i. of course provides the means to commit the attacks frequently they provide and weapons they have provided money to allow people to travel to locations to plan a terrorist attack so in some cases we've documented the f.b.i. essentially manufacturing the entire plot the prosecution one can admit evidence totally unrelated to the defendant but about terrorism in general and that inflames the jury the jury is scared of terrorism what we've seen is law enforcement targeting people at times based on idea and thoughts and speech that should be protected by freedom of expression laws. here with international we've got some breaking news coming into us here trans asia plane has crashed in penguin in taiwan the reports say that at least fifty one people have been killed in the remaining seven there were fifty eight on board seven have been injured the pilots tried to carry out an emergency landing but reports say the plane caught fire after it reach

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