the first bodies of m.h. seventeen victims arrive in the netherlands for examination and repatriation to their families while investigators hunt for more remains and clues at the crash site. the airliner crashes turned into an information war by western media echoing the u.s. state department's accusations against russia and refusing to hear any counter claims. and russia tries to find a report tries to find a reporter it lost contact with while working in eastern ukraine with reports that he may be held by government forces. and israel's ground operation in gaza bolstered by tanks helicopter gunships and warplanes leaves more than seven hundred

palestinians dead as diplomats struggle draw up a true steel. and i welcome you watching r.t. international now the bodies of forty of those who died when flight m h seventeen crashed has arrived in the netherlands to a solemn welcome. how . thousands of people marched in amsterdam wearing white in memory of the victims of the crash artie's peter oliver is in eindhoven where two more planes are expected

to arrive on thursday. the process of bringing those killed on board malaysian airlines flight seventeen here to the netherlands is underway the first to transport planes arrived here in eindhoven bringing the first forty coffins containing the remains of those who died they were greeted by a solemn ceremony alone bugler setting up a minute's silence that was impeccably observed around one thousand relatives who are believed to have been in the on the airstrip at the time watching the ceremony along with pete dutch royal family and the prime minister of the netherlands the bodies were then removed from the airplanes by a military on the god made up of all of the armed services of the netherlands and put into funeral cars they've now been taken to a military base near to the to the town of hope for sun where the identification process will take place here at the airport itself where those bodies will continue

to arrive floral tributes piling up becoming another center of remember and here in the netherlands all of those who lost their lives. according to investigators they are all the bodies have been found yet. is at the crash site in need and yet screeching where experts are combing the area. body fragments along with the debris of flights and age seventeen are scattered around a fifteen to twenty kilometer area here in a in a rural parts off eastern ukraine farms and villages all around us so it is going to probably take quite a long time to collect all the evidence and the remaining fragments of the victims of flight and age seventeen and while they always see mission monitoring mission along with malaysian experts are continuing their work day here on the ground earlier they expect express their gratitude for the level of access that say they have received to this site some investigators mentioned rumors all losing

in this area and they have addressed this issue of my know their fear and reports of looting and so on it's impossible for us to verify that. in the lasers and again it's their second day they said they said they could see still a second circuit rerun of valuables flying around there that had been taken flight recorders or a company known as black boxes i had been recovered from this area they are now in possession of british aviation authorities who are hoped to shed some light as to what actually happened to flight and made seventeen they said the flight recorders had been damaged but there is still intact and they have not been sanford's with the malaysian prime minister earlier said that he is not about to put blame on anybody at all as to why this crash it's taking place until concrete evidence is in place but ideation she q.d.

expert desmond ross told us what intonation could be gained from the flight recorders. the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder of the two boxes were returning to the cockpit voice recorder is the name suggests will tell us what was said what noises were heard everything that occurred in the cockpit prior to the accident that can be very useful in those last moments of m h one seven it could even record the sound of the explosion it will certainly record the sound of warning bells gongs and any comments made by the pilots the other one the flight data recorder specifically records the parameters of the aircraft its. characteristics at that time i would not expect there to be anything it unusual on that flight data recorder up until the moment of the explosion that information should all be stored on the recorders so long as there are to no tampering and no one to koreans with and they should be completely able to give us that information

i don't think it will take terribly long the cockpit voice recorder will be quicker but the flight data recorder across specialized equipment which is was going to england actually there's only about half a dozen special trees in the world willis can be down i'm sure it will be a very painstaking examination to determine precisely what happened in the last moments seconds of m h one seventy five it could carry weeks. so the investigation is ongoing but some analysts say that currently evidence doesn't rule out the possibility that antigovernment forces could have been responsible for the tragedy is what your hands norbit from the defense danish defense college told us. my best guess. is. that of course seventeen was flying over ukraine and it was pretty must by accident in the way that i believe that the answer key if fighters launched procmail sause on what

i would estimate to be ukrainian fighter but simply. exchange or whatever missile to target their information and hit the state while russia has released information including radar data showing a suspected ukrainian military jet near flight m h seventeen at the moment of the disaster but the defense ministry says it is concerned by a lack of reaction from kiev and its allies we haven't received any answer from ukraine or from the police to really come into an on poor simple causes for the disaster was more still there corman's based on material from social media ministry has also been talking about the claims made by the u.s. on the disaster first of all it questions why america is delaying the release of its evidence secondly it asked washington to give more details on claims russia was assisting anti-government forces and it also challenges the u.s.

assertion that ukraine's army was not involved in the crash of flight m.h. seventeen and asked whether washington is willing to stand by that plane. well the u.s. media remained adamant in their accusations against russia regarding the malaysian airliner crash and despite presenting no hard evidence to back such allegations once launched the media machine is hard to stop. it took most pundits military experts and incurs in the u.s. mainstream media less than a day to pronounce russia and specifically the russian president guilty of the downing of the mh seventeen this tuesday u.s. intelligence official said they had no evidence that would directly link russia to the tragedy they also said they did not know who exactly pulled the trigger but inertia in the media is a powerful thing and such a lack of evidence does not set back some of the journalists who seem to be

absolutely sure about who's to blame maybe you haven't been following it but the u.s. is actually coming out with a lot of its own intelligence that connects what happened made seventy to the acts of russian militants and perhaps of the involvement of russia in either training equipping or maybe even assisting what when this what. exactly and so are you talking about what what forensic evidence are you referring to. very or release intelligence information about the trajectory no not twitter i do not think peter this is something to be flip about two hundred ninety eight people lost their lives let's not i think they will declare it isn't there and when you have an intelligence coming out there we slip and much of the u.s. media brushoff whatever information comes from the russian government propaganda for instance when presented evidence that ukraine had the capability to shoot down the plane without directly accusing kiev of doing it many journalists have shown

clearly that they were not willing to treat all sources equally that is not to say that all journalists do that so really it's the propaganda machine spinning on boats. sides in what is an information war certainly has it seen from the russian angle carol is russia's evidence credible. well how credible is the u.s. evidence after a u.s. official said there is no proof of the russian president's involvement in the plane crash the u.s. media is looking for another face to put on that tragedy the leader of the pro russian rebels a suspect in this crime seems defensive even amused by it all rolling user is that the question of accountability one of the bodies to get that suit. you know it's a fantastic story to do with but the thing is that as soon as the members of our c.e. arrived they notified us that if we start moving the bodies then we will be responsible

to have new source information tonight from u.s. government sources about this strange shadowy character who leaves pro russian rebels the jean jacket black t. shirt the role of the eyes he comes across like a sixteen year old being lectured by a parent while the real investigation is only beginning in eastern ukraine the media are hungry for quick with salt quick accusations and a quick verdict in washington i'm going to check on r.t. . meanwhile there's still no sign of graeme phillips if you're in this working for who disappeared in eastern ukraine on wednesday the channel lost contact with him on his way to airport british authorities say graham is alive and his medina reports may be held by ukrainian government forces. a journalist working fourteen graham phillips was among is among four people reportedly missing while they were covering firefights and the area very close to the city of daniel scale we do know

that he was with a group of freelance journalists working very close to airport which is currently one of the most active war zones and that we are now one of the drawing allies who wanted to stay anonymous says that he was a was a ground there we shortly before he was reported missing. we received information that an offensive on the approach was planned to kill forces would try to repel it string it from. bringing a c.p.g. their position we got to three hundred meters from what it was in this month thing to do because we knew it was dangerous you know the journalists ground that they should go. to the wind and we lost them out of sight they get really close to the airport building then we go to school from grams for the other journalists cooling the ground i've been detained by antiterrorism. and at the same time ukrainian defense ministry. they do not take turn the list hostage.

there's no information on those were both were there is a don't you and it's the ukrainian military don't. well the russian foreign ministry has demanded the media treat nice of the journalists working for tea. and the british foreign office also says that it is aware of the situation and is standing ready to provide assistance meanwhile the last time phillips got in touch with moscow was on the evening of the twenty second of july and at the moment artie's doing everything possible to learn about he is president whereabouts. we also spoke to a friend of graeme journalist donald says he's really. his friend is not among the dead but he's concerned that neither of the conflicting sides in ukraine is playing by the rules he's alive and that's fantastic news and everyone's very very relieved of course western journalists want her nationality to protect her identity said to

me earlier that nobody is in control nobody is following orders in the area on either side and that's why the situation is so dangerous she said in her exact words but that concerns me a little bit and i suppose the question for. the new president of ukraine and the national guard is ukraine is a country that has pirates to join the european union it's going around kidnapping foreign nationals for no reason why. well according to the international news safety institute ukraine is actually the most dangerous place for media workers since the beginning of the conflict seven international journalists have been killed there that's more than in iraq since the start of the year five of the victims were russian one report was from italy and the other one worked for ukrainian media journalists also face constant pressure from government forces they are sometimes banned from entering ukrainian territory with reports of kidnappings

and baiting fadden from the center for investigative journalism says the army is a dubious source of information when the conflict is ongoing. but one tends not to believe what the military says in almost any country because they tend to cover themselves and not admit when tragedies actually occur the armies themselves other side and most wars provide very little meaningful protection it's a very difficult war because there are no conventional front lines in the way that we know them traditionally so it's very difficult to to position yourself safely in that circumstance the impulse for any serious professional is to get as close to the combat as you can the best pictures are that's where the best drama is and that's of course the most dangerous place there are been seven killed in the conflict so far seventy internationally and all of them have had the same sort of circumstance and there is new fighting reported in the area where graeme phillips and other journalists were supposedly captured by gunshots and explosions are being

heard around the airport at the moment and artillery is said to be at work and unconfirmed reports by locals speak of numerous civilian casualties ukrainian army has confirmed two of its fighter jets meanwhile were shot down in the region some reports claim they were flying close to be seventeen crash site early declared a non-combat zone by the president he quickly blamed russia for launching the missiles that took down the planes that is the army claims its almost completed its mission of isolating the city from the neighboring the ganske region. well the ukrainian conflict has been officially declared a war by the red or by the red cross you can find x. what that means after the break. this is the media leave us so we leave to be. by the same motion suit your. play

your part of the visible. questions that no one is asking with the guests that you deserve answers from. politic only on our t.v. . just three years ago the european union was spending several hundreds billion a few also on the public procurement embarrassed imation bit in each. deal twenty thirty sometimes even fifty percent of the money spent on corruption.

i quote again ukraine is now officially at war according to the international red cross nor sides involved could be liable for war crimes the role of the red cross in war treaties is many fold it does as the guardian of the geneva conventions and other humanitarian agreements and it decides when to officially designate violence as armed conflict and once it says there is a war it is responsible for addressing governments to punish any possible war criminals or once a conflict is tagged to war several un established rules do apply all parties must distinguish between civilians and combatants they are expected to respect and protect the lives and rights of civilians and it also means their weapons and other means of waging war are limited by international treaties and you kept him from the geneva academy of international humanitarian law and human rights says this could

result in the victims having their voices heard the question of where the fire was all the ground i mean there is no reason to oppose the traditional sort of follow the story. you know that it's. going to get civilians is the truth to this. and it won't sell in the south in a way it's the people want to watch the for political war on. the. world says it was true or false of all its causes to the war on us but political analyst brian becker believes the red cross designation may now be used as a political tool. you know based on the what's happened in the past two decades that the use of war crimes allegations is highly partisan and highly politicized usually it's the targets of western powers who are identified as war criminals and

brought to justice or are brought to the hague while those who perpetuate work runs from nato countries are never brought to trial so the concern here is that this is a gateway to a possible allegation by some not the ukrainian government even though it was the one that initiated a military offensive a. by for something that you would say if it's a war zone they created the words and thus they are culpable the fear is that this allegation may be used against those who are fighting against the kiev government or possibly even the russian government. palestinian death toll has topped seven hundred as israel carries on with its ground operation and diplomats try to broker a peace deal amass says it will agree to a ceasefire only if israel and. the latest pictures from the region.

consistent with missing. the un has warned that israel's actions in gaza could amount to war crimes in the body shimon rights council has approved a probe into the israeli offensive reports now on how the fighting is hampering medics efforts to save lives. with israel's navy to the west tanks and ground troops to the north east and south and is more than air force all the while overhead there is no shortage of extreme risks for gaza's paramedics and out of first responders the palestinian red crescent ambulances haven't reached some affected areas leaving civilians distraught but entering such areas can be deadly for paramedics ambulances have come under fire in this recent escalation one medic has already died and it's happened before

a paramedic died in the two thousand and twelve war more than a dozen others died in the two thousand and eight two thousand and nine conflict well in the last five minutes of. the hospital in middle middle we have seen three israeli and aerial vehicles fly over and we've seen just as many do. bodies. in order to palestinian paramedics do their job israel call the union natural cease fire in an area that's seen heavy strikes scores of ambulances fire engines and diggers rushed in to help many injured and to recover bodies. of missiles struck the surgery department which is home to casualty and trauma patients causing many deaths and injuries. you know you first responders are internationally legally protected workers fearing that's not enough they've been joined by foreign activists volunteering as human shields but even with that

protection for and volunteers shielding in the civilian evacuation and in the death of one teenager apparently as a result of multiple i.d.f. gunshots exhausted and overwhelmed with people needing that attention garza's paramedics have a seemingly impossible job to do all the while trying to avoid being part of the body count themselves harry fear. well paris has seen a strong wave of support for the palestinians more than fourteen thousand people took to the streets in the heart of the french capital to condemn israel to previous protests descended into violence with windows shattered and three rioters jailed. quickly now it's some other international news in brief around forty thousand farm workers from across mexico have rallied in the capital they marched to the interior ministry in mexico city demanding dialogue on land reform and

rights for indigenous people they also protested against new energy reforms they claim forced landowners to give their land to foreign investment firms to explore for petroleum and natural gas the protests was accompanied by a heavy police presence and rampage. more than forty people have been killed in two suicide bombings in northern nigeria the deadly blast took place in a crowded market when a car full of explosives was driven at full speed towards a convoy that included the country's opposition leader a moderate muslim cleric xscape harm in the second attack when a bomber exploded a device on a busy street amid members of his congregation no group is meted carrying out the attacks but extremist group boko haram has been active in the area. in the trial of one of venezuela's main opposition figures leopoldo lopez has begun in caracas lopez is accused of inciting deadly anti-government protests that took place at the beginning of the year he denies all the charges he has been in custody since

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up. hello and welcome to worlds apart from the plots to make the world a better place is one of the most overused tropes of our time politicians activists of all terrorists have all at. time to to do it in the old way our guest today is one of the world's most celebrated industrial designers and changing the world is also part of his life manifest. welcome to the party thank you thank you for inviting me what's wrong with the world as it is why is everybody so bad and changing it. you know it's it's strange i i wrote a book in two thousand and one called i want to change the world and i really got fairly slammed for that by the media and press you know because they thought it was

a kind of an arrogant statement and they also said how does design change the world you know because i was a really considered how can i say. a catalyst for change. but i noticed that in this last poll the sudden fifty thirteen years it's amazing how much the term is used and kind of overused in everything everything it's kind of like shocking this change the world where i got that term from actually was probably my teenage kid i was inspired by it because there were many songs that were written by it probably is like a new revolution a sense of what happened in the sixty's so there was a lot of talk about change the world the sixty's and i was a child so it was probably somehow part of my behavioral kind of learning at that time but i felt like i go out and do something in this world to make it a better place now i think one of the person who may also have inspired you was mahatma gandhi because you quote human one of your fifty commandments that you published some time ago and yes i think you his quote was about being

a change you want to see in the world but i think i may be mistaken but i think you are a bit further than that i mean you're. probably not satisfied with changing your immediate environment you want to project that yes well you know you said how how can you know or one of the problems that need to be changed let's say which is really your first question is that when i travel the world i work in forty two countries right now and i work on a plethora of projects so i work from and design. i would call micro to macro so i'm doing everything that i say from a jewelry line or a mobile phone to an actual piece of architecture or a hotel or office or a building and when i find that i realize that this is a bit of an epiphany i've only had in this last ten years of how poorly designed the world is and how uncomfortable the world is and how the world in a sense is this weird at least in the physical sense of the word is driven on this nostalgic machine there were constant.